Log opened Mon Feb 01 16:12:26 2010
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16:12 Topic set by Wombert [] [Wed Jan 27 23:03:58 2010]
16:12 Irssi: #agavi: Total of 28 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 27 normal]
16:12 Home page for #agavi: http://agavi.org/
16:12 Channel #agavi created Sun Nov 26 06:43:22 2006
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16:14 Xylakant Yossi_: config value interpolation takes place in AgaviToolkit::literalize()
16:15 Xylakant graste: Values you set manually with AgaviConfig::set() will not be literalized
16:19 graste :x
16:20 Yossi_ Xylankant: thank you, so I pass literalize the agavi config setting?
16:22 graste Xylakant: we set AgaviConfig::set("app.global_libraries_dir", $libraries_dir); in index.php and use it in various autoload.xmls for xincludes like %app.global_libraries_dir%
16:22 graste so it does at least work there?
16:22 graste or it's defined in settings as well
16:22 graste hm
16:23 graste &me searches through code
16:23 Xylakant no need to search
16:23 Xylakant certainly that works, it's my code
16:23 graste ^^
16:23 Xylakant you only copy and paste that from project to project
16:23 graste no, it's the same project :D
16:24 graste so it's at least not consistent?
16:24 Xylakant it's consistent
16:24 Xylakant literalization happens when the config file is parsed
16:24 graste i c
16:24 Xylakant so AgaviConfig::set('foo', '%bar%'); will not work since that's not parsed
16:25 graste hm, so you'd have to manually do expandDirectives like Yossi_ asked?
16:25 Xylakant however, AgaviConfig::set('foo', AgaviToolkit::literalize('%bar%')); will yield the expected result
16:25 graste kk
16:25 graste :>
16:25 graste thx
16:26 Xylakant Yossi_: does that answer your questions?
16:28 Yossi_ Xylankant: not really, but I have to go :/
16:28 Yossi_ Xylakant: thanks, I hope I will catch you later
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16:59 WasabiCat huomenta
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17:07 WasabiCat is there a way to make use of the RBAC distinction between say <permission>photos.edit-own</permission>
17:07 WasabiCat and
17:07 WasabiCat <permission>photos.edit</permission>
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17:08 WasabiCat if my action requires the credential 'potos.edit' then the action will still need to perform additional logic to ensure that the data in question belongs to the current user, won't it?
17:09 WasabiCat where then lies the use of distinguishing in rbac_definitions.xml between say photos.edit and photos.edit-own
17:10 sth return an array with the two permissions
17:11 WasabiCat the action still needs to figure out if that photo the user is trying to edit belongs to him or somebody else, right?
17:12 WasabiCat do you see what I'm on about?
17:12 sth err, well if they're allowed to see the page, they obviously have one of the permissions
17:12 sth So regardless, they'd be allowed to edit it
17:12 WasabiCat say a list view of users, and I'm only allowed to edit one item in the list
17:12 WasabiCat myself
17:13 sth Yeah, I see the problem
17:13 sth You need to do a check for the user
17:14 WasabiCat right and at the same time I could reduce the credential to 'users.edit', right? Since I do have to perform that check
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17:14 WasabiCat I was just wondering if I'm missing something here because I see this sort of shading of credentials often and the purpose always evades me
17:14 sth So in the getCredentials, you'd have something like: if ($this->getModel('photomanager')->getPhoto(1)->ownerid == $this->getUser()->id) { return 'photo.edit-own'; } else { return 'photo.edit' }
17:15 WasabiCat aw sweet
17:15 WasabiCat excellent, thank you for clearing that up :)
17:15 sth Assuming they have the photo.edit-own permission
17:16 WasabiCat yeah
17:16 WasabiCat awesome
17:24 saracen That's wrong :)
17:25 sth Probably
17:25 sth :D
17:25 sth What's the correct way?
17:26 saracen Agavi doesn't seem to have a correct way. The method wombert has suggested, is extending the secruity filter, to call a new method on your actions, like isAccessibly($user)
17:26 saracen Alternative ways: Put the logic in validate*(), or in execute*()
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17:29 saracen getCredential doesn't have easy access to request data. Extending the security filter means you're working with unvalidated data. Using validate() methods means you can only return true/false based on *validation*. executeMethods() mean you can add logic, and return a array('ErrorModule', 'Permission') if you wanted, but you'd either have to make a new method to call or add the logic to all your executes*
17:30 sth Extending the security filter makes more sense
17:30 saracen yeah, but it's also a pain.
17:31 saracen Validators are used for normalisation. Say I have article_id, which my custom validator converts to ArticleModel - then it'd be great if in my SecruityFilter called isAccessible action I could do: $article->isAccessible($user)
17:31 saracen But I can't, because validation hasn't been ran yet.
17:32 saracen called isAccessible on the action*
17:33 saracen Using my own validation classes makes more sense to me, because there could be really elaborate stuff to check if a user has access to something. But it should be separated out of validation, but work in a similar way, but ran afterwards
17:34 saracen Like, validate() is useful if you need something custom but know you wont use it again. Checking if a user belongs to an article/can write to it or can only read it would make sense being a custom class
17:35 saracen Because you might use it more than once
17:35 saracen So validation still seems the best place to put it for me
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17:50 WasabiCat at least it's not just me
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18:37 cheerios_ jee
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19:39 cheerios_ if anyone is near otaniemi tomorrow, come say hi http://bit.ly/9o6QF5
19:42 saracen dont you mean come say 'hei'?
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19:46 cheerios_ :)
19:48 cheerios_ heh @ "i want to make it clear how IMPORTANT it is to make sure users don't forget their passwords. If they forget their password, and/or can't recover it, then guess what MoFo -- YOU DON'T GET PAID. Which means you don't get Laid, you don't get Acquired, and you sure as friggin' hell don't get to Go IPO." http://500hats.typepad.com/500blogs/2010/02/subscriptions-are-the-new-black.html
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20:37 Pierre anyone saw wombert lately? Or someone from his company around?
20:38 cheerios_ sth might be.
20:38 sth Hey
20:39 sth Pierre: What can I do you for?
20:39 Pierre sth, slap him :)
20:39 Pierre and tell him to call me back
20:39 sth Sure
20:39 Pierre :-)
20:40 Pierre thx :)
20:40 sth I'll send him a text message now
20:40 Pierre thx again, bye!
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22:14 cheerios_ cool, CEO got nominated for "one of the 200 hand-picked CEO's to attend President Obama's "Presidential Entrepreneurship Summit" in Washington DC during April 2010."
22:15 cheerios_ http://www.entrepreneurship.gov/summit/
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00:48 cheerios_ sleeping time, 5hrs11min... atleast Prezi (nifty( ready!
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03:49 movvy strange
03:49 movvy why would i get a 'could not find driver'
03:53 movvy it def worked once
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05:17 movvy very obvious it seems ;)
05:17 movvy oh well its good lniux training
05:18 movvy looks like my php was not installed with postgre support, this should fix that
05:20 movvy hopeso
05:20 graste huomenta
05:20 movvy lots of progress lately
05:20 movvy morning
05:20 movvy doesnt that mean morning?
05:25 graste http://trac.agavi.org/wiki/Huomenta
05:25 graste :)
05:26 WasabiCat huomenta
05:32 movvy noted
05:33 movvy im veyr aggravated with linux right now
05:33 movvy the one thing I wills ay is it makes it a massive pain in the ass to use
05:41 movvy well that was an accomplishment for sure
05:41 movvy i got the pgsql driver installed
05:46 movvy and bam got the connection issues resolved
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07:01 movvy nice, finally got some logging in and authentication action going on
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07:36 codecop huomenta
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08:34 movvy ok bedtime, now that I got inserting into db working... long day
08:34 movvy authentication system, is coming together though!
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09:22 _cheerios huomenta!
09:22 _cheerios "checking the tenant" http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2010/02/sex_for_housing_schemes_legal_in_finland_​1413048.html
09:24 sth Hey
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10:07 MikeSeth move parts of model code into Doctrine ORM classes - yes or no?
10:08 MikeSeth e.g. AccountsModel::getChildSubaccounts($username) or AccountRecord::getChildren()?
10:08 sth I probably wouldn't
10:08 sth But then, it's often pointed out that I know feck all about Agavi :P
10:08 MikeSeth yeah thought so
10:09 sth If it was me, I'd use my models in a way so I could stay db agnostic
10:10 MikeSeth well, I use Doctrine's nested set implementation
10:10 MikeSeth it is db agnostic, as long as it's Doctrine at all..
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10:20 graste I'd probably write it into the ORM
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10:32 _cheerios i'd tie as much into as few classes as possible, if feasible
10:32 _cheerios as an illustrative way on how i'd not do it, lookup Propel
10:34 _cheerios does doctrine have manager classes that you can tie into your base model, to extend it? that'd be one way
10:45 E_mE if i use a sub-action, does my validation files needs to reside in a sub-folder inside validate/ ?
10:54 Xylakant E_mE: yes
10:54 Jarda _cheerios: we wrap our propel classes inside our agavimodels
10:54 Xylakant why don't you use the agavi build script to create actions?
10:55 Xylakant it will take care that all class names conform to the naming scheme, puts all files in the proper locations, creates the stubs for you etc.
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11:24 E_mE Xylakant: someone else created the action
11:25 E_mE but thanks :) .. i shall fix now
11:25 Xylakant right
11:25 Xylakant well, that's annoying then
11:25 E_mE Xylakant: btw, did you get that email about components i sent day before yesterday?
11:26 E_mE i think mortiz sent it on, because the email address i used was wrong
11:26 Xylakant nathan forwarded it
11:26 E_mE coolio :)
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11:42 krycek_ form population is complaining about that line: "if (next < myVar.length)". It says: Line 118: StartTag: invalid element name
11:42 Xylakant krycek_: and it's right
11:42 krycek_ what's wrong?
11:43 Xylakant there's a < which indicates an html tag
11:43 Jarda &lt;
11:43 Xylakant you either need to espace the special char by using entities
11:43 Xylakant or need to put your javascript into a cdata block
11:44 krycek_ hmm
11:44 Xylakant using cdata blocks is probably the better way to go since it doesn't mess up the readability of the javascript code
11:44 krycek_ i will try
11:45 krycek_ worked
11:45 krycek_ thanks Xylakant
11:45 krycek_ :)
11:45 Xylakant you're welcome
11:45 Xylakant if you encounter any trouble with the fpf, first check that your html is valid
11:46 Xylakant you can use the w3c validator or any other standard-conformant
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12:23 E_mE if you need to populate a variable list of data, should i use a loop to create each row with the input name identifiers and then use the FPF to populate them?
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12:26 E_mE or is it better to just use a loop in the template and ignore the FPF for such implementations
12:31 Xylakant I'd generate the form and use fpf to populate
12:31 Xylakant the fpf takes care of adding the appropriate error classes and inserting the messages
12:31 Xylakant escaping special chars
12:32 Xylakant you'd have to handle that on your own
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12:35 Yossi_ Xylakant: Thank for yesterday, I figured out how add directives and use them -> I use them in a custom config handler - and it works perfectly.
12:35 Xylakant fine
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12:41 codecop it would be nice to have in adt to have 1 more tab like: User [is authentificated- true / false; users attributes ; Users credentials]
12:41 codecop what u think?
12:42 Yossi_ I have another question, I use a custom config handler to cache stuff. Agavi uses config handlers when it bootstraps the application - and does it only once in production environment - and from then own its cached. when I call my config handler from an action - does this mean I lose the effect of caching? or does Agavi check if the cache exist and is up to date before it fires the config handler?
12:47 Xylakant Yossi_: what do you mean by "call"
12:48 Xylakant as long as you use include AgaviConfigCache::checkCache('my/own/config.xml'); you'll benefit from caching
12:49 Yossi_ Kylalant: thanks, this is what I am doing.
12:49 Yossi_ Kylakant: thanks, this is what I am doing.
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12:57 robopuff hmmm ... ive got custom autoload function but when agavi is trying to load some class its not using it
13:00 sth That's because agavi hooks into SPL for it's autoload
13:01 robopuff so when i want to use ezc ive got to load it by manual?
13:11 E_mE Xylakant: thanks for the advice (re: fpf above)
13:12 robopuff sth: ehhh stupid question, got it ;) thanks.
13:12 sth :)
13:12 E_mE sth: how many redbulls today?
13:12 sth 0.
13:12 E_mE loser :P
13:12 sth haha
13:12 Xylakant robopuff: well, we don't mess with autoload, so if you're registering your autoload function properly it should work
13:12 E_mE ive not had coffee in days :o
13:13 Xylakant and yes, you can use ezcomponents autoload
13:13 Xylakant I do all the time
13:13 sth Xylakant: I think he had a custom function autoload($class) somewhere in his code
13:13 robopuff well ezcomponents autoload doesnt work with agavi ;) ive tested it
13:13 Xylakant robopuff: it does for me
13:13 Xylakant i deployed it
13:14 Xylakant and since the site is still running, i guess it has to work
13:14 sth E_mE: http://web10.twitpic.com/img/62173258-87ee8f73c83dc98fec1d068e6bf2d06f.4b682535-​scaled.jpg
13:14 Xylakant and propels autoload works just fine as well, so does doctrine's
13:15 sth The redbull can graveyard
13:15 E_mE is that really the window seal of BX sth?
13:15 sth yup
13:15 E_mE hahaha
13:15 Xylakant E_mE: it's actually the place I used to keep my papers
13:15 Jarda does bx offer dental? :)
13:15 E_mE what happened to the papers?
13:16 sth We had to move the paper tray to the other side of the wall
13:16 Xylakant robopuff: how does your autoload function look like and how do you register it?
13:16 robopuff Xylakant: yep, but when i load ezc_bootstrap.php agavi tells me that ezcTemplate class doesnt exists
13:16 E_mE i think someone should create the heart attack or pulportations clock for BX staff
13:17 sth pulportations are common :)
13:17 robopuff Xylakant: now i use SPL and everything work fine
13:17 Xylakant well, how does your boostrap file look like?
13:17 sth E_mE: We're 11 cans from filling the window ledge
13:18 E_mE hehehe, is it 15*5 ? or is there more behinds the camera
13:18 sth There's a couple of columns behind
13:18 E_mE you ever tried Relentless? thats more hardcore then Redbull
13:19 E_mE 500ml cans
13:20 E_mE sth: here http://www.relentlessenergy.com/
13:20 E_mE infact: https://www.relentlessenergy.com/pages/energy
13:21 robopuff Xylakant: well its "almost" default :) before loading Agavi main class im including ezcBase and setting up autoloaders
13:22 sth We don't get that here
13:22 Xylakant well, the problem is really that the basic ezc bootstrap file does not use spl autoload but the __autoload function
13:25 E_mE sth: i drank it for a while about year and half ago, but there is so much sugar in it, my teeth always felt weird afterwards, but man it gets to buzzing like a bee hardcore.
13:26 sth You get more of an effect from relentless than you do red bull
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13:26 sth You have to drink 2 cans to match the volume
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13:28 E_mE indeed
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13:49 Rendez how is it $tm->_d() method used to format the date?
13:50 Rendez I'm a bit doubtful because of the second param $domain
13:50 graste domain from translations.xml
13:51 graste $tm->_d($cal, 'your.domain.datetime.iso8601');
13:51 graste or whatever
13:51 graste there are a few predefined ones
13:51 graste like medium or so
13:52 Rendez ah I see
13:52 Rendez thanks
13:52 Rendez ;)
14:03 Rendez what's the format for the translator?
14:03 Rendez it's not as in date()
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14:04 Xylakant it's the standard icu format
14:05 Rendez ty Xylakant
14:13 Rendez how is it done to define formatters by locales?
14:14 Rendez I'm not able to do this obviously <date_formatter locale="es">
14:25 Rendez graste: have you done this before?
14:30 Rendez ok found it
14:30 Rendez <translator domain="human">
14:30 Rendez <date_formatter>
14:30 Rendez <ae:parameters>
14:30 Rendez <ae:parameter name="type">date</ae:parameter>
14:30 Rendez <ae:parameter name="format">long</ae:parameter>
14:30 Rendez </ae:parameters>
14:30 Rendez </date_formatter>
14:30 Rendez </translator>
14:30 Rendez but my question remains in case someone has done it, feel free to let me know :)
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15:00 graste sry, not time atm and have to go :)
15:00 graste but I see, that a FAQ entry is needed
15:00 graste once again
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15:11 E_mE if ive got a checkbox, and it can be checked or unchecked, how do i go about transmitting false checked values using the validation?
15:11 E_mE my mind as completely wiped how to do this out
15:11 E_mE also the argument is <arguments base="cat[][is_old]" />
15:15 Rendez E_mE: the answer is in the FAQ
15:15 E_mE hehe i was jsut loading that up the moment you sent that haha
15:25 E_mE the FAQ version doesn't work, the validator approach does anyhow
15:25 E_mE because of the fact its an array
15:26 sth You could just specify false during $rd->getParameter('checkbox', false);
15:26 sth Then the default value would be false if it doesn't exist
15:27 E_mE ja, thats the approach im now going to take :) thanks sth
15:29 sth David's gone for nap on the sofa :x
15:30 Xylakant E_mE: the FAQ version with the hidden input field should work
15:31 Xylakant sth: I feel like joining him. I'd go for one of those fatboys flying around here
15:31 sth "fatboys"?
15:31 Xylakant big bags filled with styrofoam
15:31 E_mE Xylakant: thats RoR hack, you should be ashamed of your self :P
15:31 Xylakant to sit on?
15:32 Xylakant E_mE: why would i? that hack was invented long before RoR even got to be
15:32 E_mE im jesting you :)
15:32 Xylakant i'm more ashamed that it's a hack, but there's no beautiful solution
15:32 E_mE im going to take the solution that sth recommended
15:33 E_mE infact my solution is: $array['optional'] = (isset($array['optional'])); prior to Doctrine insertion
15:33 E_mE which is fairly streight forward
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15:41 saracen Anybody used Facebook Connect + Agavi before?
15:46 sth I haven't, but if it's like the fb app api, it'll be crappy :D
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15:51 Xylakant saracen: I had the very limited pleasuer
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15:58 sth http://web2.twitpic.com/img/62202693-f3ac991b1d424048c5c5ff6452ce9cde.4b684bb9-s​caled.jpg :D
15:59 saracen Xylakant: Do you remember how you handled the "connect url". I thought that url would actually send the facebook user ids and stuff to it. But it just seems to use the url which I click "connect to facebook" from. Data comes in from GET, but I'm not sure how to detect it. I could use a routing callback, but theres nothing really really specific to latch on to
15:59 saracen Bah, I must go =(
15:59 sth I'm sure David will kill me for that photo
15:59 Xylakant sth: not before we spread that picture all over the internetz
15:59 sth haha
16:02 sth Ugh, I may disappear. He's awake
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16:47 E_mE sth: that picture does work anymore
16:48 E_mE i assume death has occured ;)
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17:22 sth E_mE: http://twitpic.com/1117wl
17:22 E_mE sth: haahaha
17:23 E_mE sth: do you like drawing?
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17:24 sth Yeah
17:25 E_mE you should become a cartoonist
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17:51 movvy alright so i know you all knwo something magical
17:51 movvy the <error> </error> tags in the validation files, is thre someway to easily display this on the screen
17:51 movvy for example lets say it asks for their email during registration and they don't enter a valid email
17:56 Xylakant err, the formpopulationfilter does that for you?
17:56 Xylakant and if you're not using the fpf, you can use $validationManger->getReport() to get the validation result
17:57 Xylakant the error messages for every failed field are accessible from there
17:57 movvy hmm... formpopulationfilter?
17:57 movvy what is this?
17:57 movvy http://cuismailer.touchbasedemo.com/userauth/register
17:57 movvy to the right side of the input boxes I want a small error message if there is one
17:58 Xylakant http://www.agavi.org/documentation/tutorial/step7/the-form-population-filter.htm​l
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18:11 movvy elite
18:11 movvy check that shit out, thanks Xylakan
18:17 movvy I will learn something yet!
18:17 movvy this is probably the best web tutorial on php I have seen to date
18:17 movvy i realized its focued around a framework, but its good stuff
18:40 Xylakant right, I'm off. see you all around tomorrow
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19:04 movvy hmm
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19:10 movvy hmm
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19:11 movvy that doesnt seem very clear to me, do I just need to redirect to the same page?
19:11 movvy if there is an error? :<
19:13 movvy got it, easy
19:13 movvy or I think i understand it now
19:13 movvy thats grrrreeeeeat!
19:19 haji http://developers.facebook.com/news.php?story=358&blog=1 - hiphop php, compiling/converting php to C++
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19:54 movvy damnit
19:57 movvy something in my view is not working with FPF
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19:58 movvy :(
19:59 movvy when i submit a page with an error, it just returns a blank page
20:00 movvy how do yous eta template to use?
20:05 matbtt_ ...setting up the template is the task of the view.
20:07 sth movvy: enable php errors and display them
20:09 movvy im almost there
20:09 movvy matbtt_ thats what I thought by default i seem it returns the same template as the view
20:10 movvy I am hoping to set for example the view 'Error' to return 'Success' template
20:10 movvy sth: I have fpf error now, it say something about xml problem on line 10, but the lines don't match up :<
20:13 sth They won't
20:13 sth there's something in the config you need to enable
20:13 sth use_logging
20:14 sth enable it, refresh and in app/log you should have the html file FPF tried to parse and failed on
20:17 graste +1
20:18 graste sth http://twitpic.com/1117wl <-- is that david?
20:19 movvy sth figured it out
20:20 movvy looked and I had to html headers!!
20:20 movvy ones in my template and some from Master Templater
20:20 movvy which leads me to my next question, im guessing with output_types you can add new 'master' template
20:20 movvy or something like that?
20:21 movvy or maybe under the html output type you can swithc them somehow?
20:21 sth graste: Yes
20:21 graste =)
20:21 sth He moaned aboutt hat picture
20:21 sth that*
20:22 movvy also the new output text is might boring looking
20:22 graste movvy - you define your output types like HTML, XML, JSON, PDF, $whatever and define some default slots with their respective renderers in your output_types.xml - and you specify a master template as well
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20:23 movvy i feel like everytime i think I have learned something, it just opens up 10 more question
20:23 graste as well as some default http headers for your defined output types (like UTF8 etc)
20:23 graste yeah, steep learning curve or whatever you want to call it :)
20:24 graste movvy - the sample application is a good start
20:24 movvy yeah, i must imagine knowing how to use a framework like this, will open lots of oppurtunities in the future
20:24 movvy graste, im past that :)
20:24 movvy I mean im still referencing it now and then
20:24 movvy but I have worked most of that in one way or another if not directly
20:24 graste I'm referencing that as well from time to time
20:24 movvy I'm working on an authentication platform right now
20:25 movvy so its been a really good reference
20:25 movvy I am freaking excited to see this fpf working
20:25 movvy thats slick shit
20:26 graste it is
20:26 movvy but even that
20:26 graste just remember to use numeric entities like &#160; instead of &nbsp; as it chokes on that :)
20:26 movvy now im wondering, how can i use custom validator's and return pretty error messages
20:26 movvy and how do i change that text's appearence and location?
20:26 graste well
20:27 graste write your custom validator, add it to autoload.xml, define errors and return them from the custom validator
20:27 graste then in validate.xml of your action set messages for the errors
20:28 movvy ahh yes, thats makes sense
20:28 graste they may even be translated when you specify a translation domain
20:28 graste if validation fails the error messages will be inserted by FPF in you form at positions defined in the FPF config in your filter xml
20:29 movvy yup yup, I think I know what to do for the custom validator
20:29 graste custom validator: http://www.mivesto.de/agavi/agavi-faq.html#validation_17
20:31 graste then in global_filters.xml you have to fiddle with the message "types": "field_error_messages", "error_messages" and "multi_field_error_messages"
20:31 graste error_messages is for all non-input-field related messages that your validators throw
20:31 graste field_error_messages for your input field errors (who would've thought that ^^)
20:31 movvy excellent thanks gratse
20:31 movvy thats awesome
20:32 movvy i feel empowered ;)
20:32 graste you specify positions via XPATH expressions in global_filters.xml FPF config
20:33 graste for all parameters see FPF class at the bottom - sample global_filters.xml is in sample app or in http://www.mivesto.de/agavi/agavi-faq.html#filter_0 (with comments copied from there)
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20:36 graste e.g. you may specify another css class name for error messages via 'error_class' parameter of the FPF (class="error" added to HTML elements is the default) - see http://trac.agavi.org/browser/tags/1.0.2/src/filter/AgaviFormPopulationFilter.cl​ass.php#L917
20:36 graste etc pp
20:36 graste :D
20:36 movvy jesus, your a madman
20:38 graste no, I'm not
20:38 graste the agavi devs are
20:38 graste :P
20:38 graste and saracen of course as sth would state
20:38 graste =)
20:39 sth :D
20:41 sth There's a BX crazy test
20:42 sth haha "Not to be outdone by #HipHop, Twitter releases Trance which speeds up Ruby on Rails by converting it to PHP"
20:42 graste :>
20:44 graste not to be outdone by $foo, bitextender releases Agavi which eats other frameworks for breakfast
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20:47 movvy i feel like this framework is very massive, although if you knew what you were doing you could probably develop pretty fast
20:51 graste I think it's just there with features you really need in a framework (like the translation manager etc) and one's almost never required to work against the framework or its guidelines - and factories.xml is your friend for heavier changes you need :)
20:52 graste it is especially the fastest IMHO for changes in output types - when your boss or 3rd party app $foo comes around and needs your data as JSON or XML instead of HTML (or whatever)
20:52 graste routing is pretty advanced too :)
20:57 sth It's still the framework that hates you
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20:58 cheerios_ hei!
20:58 cheerios_ ttj, met a guy from your company tonight (corp business side)
20:58 cheerios_ "we will crush you, or we will buy you out" cocky bastards :p
20:59 sth ha
21:07 graste hrhr
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00:26 movvy hello
00:26 movvy Warning: preg_match() [function.preg-match]: Compilation failed: support for \P, \p, and \X has not been compiled at offset 2 in /REDUNDANT-STORAGE/webdev/dev/sites/cuismailer.touchbasedemo.com/root/CUISUpdate​r/opt/agavi/src/validator/AgaviStringValidator.class.php on line 68
00:32 movvy <ae:parameter name="pattern">#^.+@.+$#U</ae:parameter>
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01:05 movvy is this a problem with agavi?
01:06 saracen No
01:06 movvy hmm, can you shed a bit of light, I would really appreciate
01:07 movvy trying to work making a more advanced form validation :)
01:07 saracen It looks like its just an error with your regex, but i'm shit with regex
01:07 movvy hmm, i copied that bit out of impl's old stuff, so i guess it was right, but i could be wrong
01:07 movvy i guessed*
01:08 movvy im also not possitive that, thats the line throwing the error
01:08 movvy i assume it is, because if i don't enter an email it doesnt show that warning
01:08 saracen http://www.typolight.org/faq-reader/items/compilation-failed.html
01:16 movvy always something...
01:16 movvy i will work on it, this is crazy
01:17 movvy slackware clearly wasn't meant to run a webserver or something ;)
01:17 movvy its been good linux experience though :)
01:17 movvy full run troubleshooting!
01:29 saracen Thats just Linux in general :)
01:45 movvy hmm having problems finding the lib
01:49 movvy sigh google not helping much on how to resolve
01:49 movvy stupiderorr
01:49 movvy stupid error*
02:00 movvy i guess im pretty screwed
02:00 movvy i don't see any way to fix this
02:06 saracen You saidt this was to validate an email address didnt you? Why not just use the email validator
02:13 movvy i can try
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02:14 movvy it actually looks like its coming from my password matching alomst
02:15 movvy nah def my email validator, you want to see the entire thing?
02:16 movvy > hm
02:16 movvy http://pastebin.com/m3c767a50
02:16 movvy :)
02:16 movvy thanks
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02:20 movvy interesting
02:21 saracen yeah, looks like its the email one. No idea why impl didnt use the email validator, I'm going to assume hhe was on coke
02:21 movvy could you show me an example?
02:22 saracen http://pastebin.com/m6e689954
02:23 saracen if the email validator itself uses some regex which requires utf8 to be enabled though, you're still fucked.
02:25 movvy saracen, it wasn't that at all
02:25 movvy it was a bad paramter somehow in the passowrd validation
02:25 movvy i have no idea how
02:25 movvy equals validator must use regex?
02:25 saracen :)
02:26 movvy took me all day to get fpf working dude
02:26 movvy seems ridiculously useful though
02:27 movvy strange
02:28 movvy when the passwords don't match i get three of the error's now, but when it does match ti works
02:28 movvy cuismailer.touchbasedemo.com/userauth/register
02:28 movvy if your interested
02:30 movvy ok its back to one erro
02:30 movvy alright so if they match its all good
02:31 movvy its actually when the passwords don't match I get that warning
02:31 movvy oddly, it does say the passwords don't match in the form, its really jsut a warning
02:31 movvy turning it though.. hmm
02:42 movvy the regex is def working ;)
02:46 movvy alright, so its just clearnign that error, your email validator works great :)
02:49 movvy i think the answer is to supress this warning it works
02:49 movvy i mean i get the right messages, is there a way to suprress just wanring ?
03:01 movvy interesting, its a display errors thing, but still really annoying
03:01 movvy i have a feeling its my slackware boxm but that will go away shortly
03:06 movvy alright last thing, figure out why my validator is ass backwards ;)
03:06 movvy and usernames and emails all lowercase
03:14 movvy odd reconfigure
03:14 movvy restart of server
03:14 movvy and gone
03:14 movvy i did reinstall pcre with unicode suppor
03:14 movvy tmaybe it needed reboot to take effect
03:14 movvy wierd
03:20 movvy good stuff i will take it!
03:20 movvy damn that for validation and fpf took almost all day :(
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04:02 MugeSo Huomenta
04:02 MugeSo anybody use HipHop with agavi?
04:10 movvy im not good enough to try yet :)
04:10 movvy though i was interested in the same question
04:26 movvy sweet
04:26 movvy i get my engagement ring I have ben wroking on forever tomorrow
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07:50 robopuff Huomenta
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08:52 graste huomenta
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09:31 Yossi_ Huomenta
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09:32 _cheerios huomenta!
09:32 Yossi_ I though about gettext translation yesterday, I never really liked it, but now I've thought about it and I know why
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09:33 Xylakant Yossi_: and what is it that you don't like?
09:37 ttj _cheerios: What exactly is "corp business side"? :)
09:37 Yossi_ It doesn't make as much sense for web application to have centralized translation files, its not something you compile and ship like C programs (original intent of gettext), web applications are dynamic. and can change many times, so having the translation closer to the context they are used in (per template etc...) makes more sense, also - residing them in a more structured (xml) format...
09:37 Yossi_ ...makes a lot of sense for web apps
09:37 _cheerios ttj, head of operational excellence, corporate business was on his bizcard
09:38 _cheerios doesn't say anything to me, but it was mightily impressively long title, as yours :p
09:39 ttj Sounds like some arcane business card.
09:39 ttj Only "corporate business", not e.g. "corporate business development"?
09:40 _cheerios sec, i'll look the guy up
09:40 ttj _cheerios: First name starts with Sh... and last name with Ta...?
09:40 Xylakant Yossi_: but what if you have multiple templates that use the same strings? do you translate them individually for each template?
09:40 ttj No, the other way. Last name and first name.
09:40 _cheerios ttj, yes
09:40 _cheerios glad you guessed, linkedin is too hard to use :)
09:41 ttj Yep, educated guess. :)
09:41 Xylakant And how would xml be more structured than .po files?
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09:46 Yossi_ Yossi_: XML is somthing you can easily interface with using common libraries, validate, etc... it also has things like xi:include so that can solve things multiple templates using same strings, you can have a global xml file, that xi:includes the per template files, this way you can also maybe allow templates override global strings, which is something that can easily happen in the course of...
09:46 Yossi_ ...a web application...
09:47 Yossi_ Xylakant: Yossi__ -> Xylakant
09:48 Xylakant .po files can easily be validated, the structure is simple enough that it's really human readable
09:48 Xylakant includes are not required since you have one translation file per domain, strings are shared automatically
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09:49 Xylakant there are some xml based translation systems out there, there are some database-based ones as well
09:50 Xylakant I haven't seen anything yet that beats the practicability of a well managed gettext based system
09:50 Xylakant in the end, it's just the storage
09:51 Xylakant the complex part is actually doing the translations and managing the translation domains
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09:56 Yossi_ Xylakant: idk, I used gettext in projects and didn't really like it, when the project gets big and you need to change stuff it feels messy. I haven't used anything else with Agavi, and the only other translation manager i've worked with was Joomla's where the translation files are not global - but per context - felt better... could be just my personal preference, but I feel a more optimal...
09:56 Yossi_ ...solution is required, I am probably going to build one for my current project... so we'll see
09:56 Xylakant but you can have per-context translation files with gettext
09:57 Xylakant just use a domain per template
09:57 Xylakant but I doubt that's a good solution
09:57 Xylakant well, you roll you own and then we'll see
09:59 Yossi_ Xylakant: I will put some more though in to it, seems like an interesting problem to me, I really hate translation :)
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10:16 steffkes morning has broken .. *sing*
10:16 _cheerios ttj, http://presidentti.fi -- we're on the 1st page :)
10:16 sth I need coffee or more sleep :/
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13:40 Xylakant E_mE: and yes, the numbervalidator should accept all numeric values
13:40 E_mE ja, after taking a look into the validator i saw the options :)
13:40 E_mE sorry for the stupid question :)
13:41 Xylakant agavi.org should be back up
13:41 Xylakant the server crashed, we're sorry for the outage
13:42 E_mE Xylakant: its just not good enough, think of the potential loose of productivity! ;)
13:42 Xylakant well, i guess since the service is provided for free, you'll have to take whatever we feed you
13:43 Xylakant however, if you'd pay for a support contract, we'd be there for you 24 hours a day
13:43 E_mE thats a weak excuse
13:43 E_mE ohhhhh i see, its a feature, not a bug :P
13:43 Xylakant well, we have to sell those contracts somehow
13:44 Xylakant if we'd provide perfect service for free there'd be no incentive
13:44 E_mE :) of course
13:45 E_mE 24 hours a day eh?
13:45 E_mE do you have a bleeper with question requests?
13:46 Xylakant if you'd pay for the appropriate support contract you'd get helpdesk access and yes, we do offer 24h support
13:46 Xylakant we do reserver a little response time though
13:46 E_mE but i want it NOW!!!
13:46 Xylakant and yes, that implies having a mobile right beside the pillow for at least one of us
13:47 Rendez E_mE: shut up
13:47 Rendez xD
13:47 E_mE :) thats pretty cool
13:47 E_mE slaps Rendez
13:47 Rendez Xylakant: that's a lot of stress
13:47 Xylakant yes, agreed
13:47 Xylakant been there before
13:47 Xylakant but it has to be done
13:48 E_mE isnt it quite difficult to wake up at 3am and give a concise answer to a complicated question when half asleep?
13:48 Rendez E_mE: I'm sure Xylakant has a sheet cheat beneath his bed
13:48 Xylakant Rendez: you're insulting me
13:48 Rendez cheat sheet*
13:48 E_mE a sheet cheat hahah
13:48 Rendez :P
13:48 Xylakant I have a coffeemaker rigged up to the mobile
13:48 Rendez hahaah
13:49 E_mE i bet its a can of Red bull actually
13:49 Xylakant I can actually count on one hand the times that I have drunk red bull
13:49 Xylakant and I'd have four fingers left
13:49 Rendez do you activate the coffeemaker and then a ball rolls down over your head until it fires a sequential mechanic chain that feeds you the coffee in your mouth
13:50 E_mE so no times?
13:50 Xylakant E_mE: I do still have 5 fingers on my hand
13:50 E_mE wrong, a thumb is not a finger :P
13:50 Xylakant well, then i say "Einmal ist keinmal" and I'm still right
13:51 E_mE one time is no time? that makes no sense, least in english
13:51 E_mE or have i intrepted wrong?
13:51 Rendez it makes in sense in spanish too
13:52 Rendez no time = doesn't really require time
13:52 Xylakant E_mE: it's more like "once does not count"
13:53 E_mE ah yes
13:53 E_mE anyway, time to finish off what im doing then some fooodz
13:53 Xylakant so i tried red bull once and I think it's horrible
13:53 Rendez Monster taste better
13:53 Xylakant tastes like gummi bears dissolved in some liquid
13:54 Rendez I tried it in the slopes
13:54 Rendez maybe I was incredibly thirsty so anythng tastes good
13:54 Rendez haha
13:55 E_mE Xylakant: funny that, i agree with you on the taste of redbull ... im not a huge fan my self... It reminds me of a scottish drink too, called Ion Brew
13:55 E_mE here http://www.irn-bru.co.uk/
13:55 E_mE but then the scots eat deep fried Mars bars
13:56 Xylakant I actually love gummi bears, but I can't stand red bull
13:56 Xylakant yeah. the scots are a bit weird
13:56 Xylakant especially when it comes to food
13:57 E_mE indeed, my GF always tries to insist that Haggis is nice, but ive had it once and Einmal is Keinmal :P
13:57 E_mE shes not scottish btw
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15:37 krycek_ is there any doc that shows how to use the unit tests?
15:38 krycek_ I looked at the examples but don't know how to execute them.
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15:45 krycek_ ok, found it
15:50 E_mE does the FPF automatically use _n() on float types or so?
15:50 Xylakant E_mE: no
15:51 Xylakant krycek_: php runtests.php
15:51 E_mE so how can you get the FPF to do this on errornious submissions?
15:51 Xylakant in the appropriate directory
15:51 Xylakant E_mE: not at all
15:51 Xylakant it inserts the value as the user entered it
15:51 Xylakant that's the idea behind it
15:51 E_mE ah yes, im being blond
15:51 E_mE blonde*
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16:11 krycek_ Configuration file "/../my_project/app/config/settings.xml" does not exist or is unreadable.
16:11 krycek_ but it is there
16:11 krycek_ accessing my_project/app/config/settings.xml I can read the file
16:13 krycek_ is it right to set the app dir in: AgaviConfig::set('core.app_dir', "/../my_project/app") ?
16:13 Xylakant err, why would you mess with the app-dir?
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16:14 krycek_ the sandbox2 that come has no pub, app, etc structure
16:14 krycek_ I want to point it to my project
16:15 Xylakant what where which sandbox?
16:15 krycek_ I'm talking about AllTests.php
16:15 Xylakant that's the old old old agavi pre-1.0 suite of tests for the framework
16:15 Xylakant leave those alone and forget about them
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16:16 krycek_ hmmm.. but I'm using the 0.11.8 version
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16:17 Xylakant no unit testing for you then
16:17 Xylakant well, you can test some models, but that's about it
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16:17 Xylakant and why are you using 0.11.8?
16:18 krycek_ because the project was 90% done when 1.0 came out
16:19 darkom hi
16:19 Xylakant have you tried updating?
16:19 Xylakant it should be mostly painless
16:19 Xylakant and 0.11.x is not supported any more
16:19 Xylakant hi darkom
16:19 krycek_ no, but I guess I will try it right now
16:20 krycek_ downloading 1.0.2 right now
16:20 darkom i run into something, which I don't know if it's a bug or something i don't understand
16:20 krycek_ wish me luck ;]
16:20 darkom i have a validator
16:20 Xylakant anyways, testing support is still alpha quality in 1.0 and has substantially improved in 1.1
16:21 darkom and if the validators name is 'field-type' the error is not thrown
16:21 darkom for any other name for the validator an error is thrown
16:21 darkom does the validator's name influence something?
16:22 krycek_ should I wait 1.1?
16:22 Xylakant the validator's name should not influence anything
16:22 Yossi_ hmmm... things like $ro etc aren't getting exposed to my templates, and I have them set in out_types... so idk
16:22 krycek_ when will it be released?
16:23 Xylakant krycek_: I don't have a date
16:23 Xylakant so it really depends on what you need
16:24 Xylakant darkom: you actually don't have to name validators
16:25 Xylakant unless you later need to reference them by a name
16:25 Yossi_ my bad, it works
16:28 darkom yes, I named them just so that I can see easily what broke
16:28 darkom so this might be a bug?
16:29 Xylakant it might be, yes
16:37 Xylakant if you have a simple reproduction case, feel free to report this to the mailing list or open a ticket
16:38 darkom ok
16:38 darkom i'll try to find the root of it
16:38 Yossi_ Ah - I think there is a bug in dwoo - when I do somthing like {$tm->_("testing")} it throws an exception - Parse error, invalid function name : _("testing")}
16:43 Yossi_ ah... there is a plug in for it
16:43 darkom the problem was that I had two validators with the same name
16:44 darkom i.e. i had already a validator with the name field-type
16:45 darkom so I guess afterwards strange things happen
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17:00 Xylakant darkom: that's expected behavior
17:00 Xylakant the second validator overwrites the first
17:00 Xylakant so the first validator is never executed
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17:15 krycek_ facing a "Too many execution runs have been detected for this Context" is common error when migrating to 1.0?
17:17 graste increase number of executions factories.xml when you have many (nested) slots
17:17 graste it's a parameter
17:17 graste <ae:parameter name="max_executions">500</ae:parameter>
17:17 graste of AgaviController
17:18 krycek_ I dont think I have so many nested slots
17:18 krycek_ but i will try that, thanks
17:18 graste you'll run in this limit with too many slot executions, when you built endless loops :)
17:19 graste omg english
17:19 graste :x
17:19 krycek_ O.o
17:21 krycek_ it didn't work, I think it has some kind of deadlock
17:21 saracen Are you forwarding to a page which forwards to itself at all?
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17:25 krycek_ that's what I'm looking for right now... but if there is such think it shouldn't work with 0.11.8
17:26 graste or you include a slot via layout?
17:26 graste and again and again?
17:26 graste ^^
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17:38 Xylakant krycek_: increasing the maximum execution runs is possible in 0.11
17:39 Xylakant so if you increase the limit and still have that error, you probably have a slot that includes the same slot over and over again
17:39 Xylakant probably via a layout that's loaded
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17:40 krycek_ Xylakant
17:40 krycek_ http://pastebin.com/d3384b3f1
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17:41 Xylakant that stacktrace is of no help
17:43 krycek_ well, it says that it never reached my own code
17:44 krycek_ it's some endless loop before something that i wrote is executed
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17:57 krycek_ removing all routes from routing.xml still gives me that error
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18:40 J-P is it possible to set a default value for an argument inside a validator ?
18:40 J-P if not, I think it would be great
18:43 J-P wouldn't it ?
18:45 saracen Why not just set it to required="false", and then in your action $rd->getParameter('value_from_validator', 'default_value'); ?
18:46 saracen A validator being ran to validate it's own default values sounds a little weird
18:46 J-P because it's not working well with SomeORM->fromArray()
18:46 saracen How so?
18:48 J-P I'm using doctrine. When I create a record I've been taught to use input name="parameter[name]" and then create my record using $record->fromArray($rd->(C)etParameter('parameter')
18:48 J-P however
18:48 J-P if I want a field to be empty
18:49 J-P some non-required field, when I put an empty string, it simply does not validate thus not seding a value to the request data holder
18:49 J-P which finally means, I'm not able to set an empty value to a field
18:50 J-P to fix this
18:50 J-P I have to manually check each record that can be empty, look if the value exists in $rd->getParameter(), if so I use the value otherwise I use ''
18:51 J-P I think it would be easier to simply have a <default></default> element inside the validatur
18:51 J-P me crazy ?
19:02 saracen So, when you have an empty string, you're saying it doesn't pass through - which doctrine doesn't like because it expects that value to be in the request data?
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19:04 saracen You could probably nest validators to give you what you want. If the string validator fails, you could export a default value by using the "set" validator
19:05 J-P exacly
19:05 J-P :o
19:06 saracen http://pastebin.com/m25ef4ff1
19:06 saracen Something like that
19:06 J-P sounds nice
19:07 J-P I guess this is what I'll use untill such feature exists
19:08 saracen If it was me, I'd probably tackle the problem via some other method - but I'm not 100% sure of what you're doing :)
19:09 J-P are you using an ORM ?
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19:17 saracen J-P: Yeah, I have done, but I usually usually proxy it, via own my get/setters
19:18 saracen I see the benefits of using toarray/fromarray stuff though, just havent implemented my own solution so far
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21:50 matbtt_ Huomenta.
21:50 matbtt_ ...anybody here who has tried Doctrine2 with Agavi
21:50 matbtt_ ?
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08:08 graste huomenta
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09:44 sth Morning
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11:17 Rendez morning
11:17 Rendez how do I pass an #id to gen()
11:18 Rendez the frament_id at the end, the JS hash in the url
11:21 krycek_ like ->gen("name.of.action", array ("id" => 1))?
11:22 Rendez no, something like #450">domain.com/path/to/some/route#450
11:22 Rendez the anchor
11:22 Rendez I saw it in options in AgaviRouting but not sure how to go about it
11:25 graste http://www.mivesto.de/agavi/agavi-faq.html#routing_4 - so $ro->gen('some.route', $routeParams, array('fragment' => 'id')); should work
11:26 Rendez yeah, I saw the frament_id
11:27 Rendez but as it didn't work I thought it was wrong
11:27 Rendez obviously I had to remove _id
11:27 Rendez maybe that should be in the FAQ, since might lead to confsion?
11:27 Rendez graste: thanks
11:31 sth Rendez: Do you mean #<something> that appears in urls?
11:32 sth bla.com/foo.html#foobar
11:32 Jarda sth: yes, that's called a fragment
11:33 Rendez sth: yes, graste just said it
11:35 sth knowing the fragment is another thing, since it's not sent to the server
12:07 Jarda I use fragments mainly to tell things to javascript
12:07 Jarda that's why generating it is important
12:11 Yossi_ why and how does agavi get to process request with #
12:11 Yossi_ nm... stupid question... I think
12:12 krycek_ $this->getLayer('decorator')->setSlot('filter', $this->createSlotContainer('Front', 'Search.Filter', $rd));
12:12 Yossi_ actually no, when you do stuff like <a href="#"> it somehow gets processed by the web server when you run on Agavi...
12:12 krycek_ that should execute the validation for Search.Filter, right?
12:14 Jarda krycek_: yes (if you have a execute*( -method)
12:16 krycek_ that could prevent those validators from executing? because they are not being called
12:17 Jarda you need to have execute(Agavi..) or execute*(Agavi...) methods to get validation, yes
12:20 krycek_ oh god, that was exactly the problem...
12:20 krycek_ thanks
12:20 Jarda no problem, a common mistake
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13:08 graste Yossi_ actually no, when you do stuff like <a href="#"> it somehow gets processed by the web server when you run on Agavi...
13:08 graste that would just reload the current url
13:08 graste that's why agavi is triggered
13:24 Jarda well I guess it loads /#
13:24 Jarda which is not usually the intended thing to do
13:24 Jarda so when you would be at /foo/bar and do <a href="#"> you would end up to /#
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13:32 Yossi_ graste: yeah but why
13:32 Yossi_ or how..
13:32 Yossi_ it doesn't do it normaly...
13:38 krycek_ how to do an UnitTest to test if eg "div.error" exists?
13:39 Jarda selenium or pure phpunit?
13:39 krycek_ pure
13:39 krycek_ there is an example of assertResponseHasTag
13:40 Jarda I don't know about that. Selenium understands xpath, don't know if phpunit does
13:40 krycek_ but that's it
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13:47 Xylakant krycek_: assertResponseHasTag() uses phpunit's assertTag() and allows the appropriate matchers
13:48 Xylakant just as the documentation states btw.
13:49 Xylakant the matcher does not support xpath
13:49 Xylakant http://www.phpunit.de/manual/current/en/api.html#api.assert.assertTag
13:50 Xylakant but you can certainly check that there's a div.error
13:54 krycek_ Time to read the manual. Thanks again, Xylakant
13:54 Xylakant this one is in the api docs
13:54 Xylakant which are generally worth a look if you have any questions about what do methods do and which parameter do they accept
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17:14 E_mE does AgaviValidator::getData() throw and exception if you pass an invalid argument name?
17:14 Jarda I guess not
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09:24 sth Morning
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09:52 E_mE huomenta
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10:46 krycek_ can I do flow tests that use an AgaviRbacSecurityUser?
10:46 krycek_ I mean action+view uses it
10:47 Xylakant krycek_: in principle yes
10:47 Xylakant you need to set up the user in the testcases setup() method
10:48 Xylakant which agavi version are you using?
10:48 krycek_ hmm, that's it then
10:48 krycek_ 1.0.2 now ;p
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10:49 krycek_ I'm glad I switched
10:49 krycek_ well, I haven't finished yet, but so far so good
10:50 Xylakant hmm, flow tests will change quite a bit in 1.1
10:50 Xylakant so be prepared when you upgrade
10:50 Xylakant as I said, testing is still alpha in 1.0 and not api-stable
10:51 krycek_ no problem, i won't be writting a lot of tests just yet
10:52 Xylakant ok
10:52 Xylakant just wanted to mention that
10:53 krycek_ do you have an example of setting up an user?
10:54 saracen Wai is my fpf not working =(
10:55 sth Because you suck :x
10:55 saracen has something be changed to enable it or something? ;x
10:56 saracen oh wait, form post might be different
10:57 Jarda Xylakant: ok, so if/when our tests broke in 1.0->1.1 we have no idea if our app is working :D
10:57 Jarda well, I'm glad we don't have that much tests, a couple hundred maybe
10:58 Jarda well, actually we use very little agavi testing api
10:58 Jarda we just bootstrap an agavi instance etc
10:59 krycek_ flow tests have just 2 or 3 assertions methods
11:00 Jarda and I'm talking about unit tests
11:00 Jarda we haven't even got into flow testing yet
11:02 Jarda ok, so I changed my computer and pear is installing phing 2.4.0, this will bring problems?
11:02 Jarda (and how should I downgrade)
11:26 ttj Muahahaaa! GG's back! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UigclNEK7Ls
11:30 sth that film is so bad it looks like a spoof
11:30 ttj Well, it's a teaser, so of course they're looking to provoke people.
11:33 graste Jarda well, I'm glad we don't have that much tests, a couple hundred maybe
11:33 graste -.-
11:33 graste I'm having like 10 <:
11:33 graste ^^
11:36 Xylakant Jarda: it shouldn't be too much work to adapt the tests
11:36 Xylakant the main changes are around the flowtest
11:36 Xylakant we split that testcase up into flowtest and container test
11:36 Xylakant the flowtest does a full application dispatch with all filters
11:37 Xylakant and a url etc as input
11:37 Xylakant the container test just runs a single executioncontainer, so you can use it to test slots etc
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11:37 graste cool cool :)
11:42 Xylakant yes, based on feedback and our own test
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12:23 digitarald mh, simple yet powerful, I like: http://ezcomponents.org/docs/tutorials/SignalSlot
12:23 digitarald ... another day another reminder that I would like to see pubsub in agavi ;)
12:28 digitarald idea for a blog tutorial: Your first flow test :)
12:28 digitarald too many people don't have tests ... including some of my projects, I am guilty
12:32 digitarald Xylakant, couldn't Davids slides/talks about agavi be linked on agavi.org, since they give a great intro to the framework
12:35 digitarald and a community page that links to sites like http://www.mivesto.de/agavi/agavi-faq.html and http://adt.projectbin.org/ until there is a forge?
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13:16 graste faq is linked on trac
13:16 graste probably adt should be added there as well if it's not already there
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13:49 digitarald I know trac has a wiki ... but it is still linked under the label "Code" and for managing the code base. Links for community projects and similar should have an extra space ...
13:50 digitarald could even link to an extra trac page as simple solution ... but hiding useful links in trac, nah
13:51 digitarald don't u agree, graste?
13:51 graste I certainly agree
13:51 graste :)
13:51 digitarald btw, the training document mentions cheat sheets ... do they exist?
13:52 digitarald and access to bitextender best practices ... wouldn't both things be something nice to share, at least in a reduced format?
13:56 graste slides would be a good start as introductions
13:57 graste many projects gain a lot of speed and publicity through crowds blogging about things etc
13:57 digitarald yes, when my blog is back alive I'll add some agavi tips for sure
13:58 digitarald simple things, like "first steps in i18n" etc ...
13:58 digitarald stuff that is currently hard to grab
14:03 digitarald and I'm sure, MikeSeth and others also would write small 1-page articles about receipts interesting features
14:03 digitarald ok, gives me the will to work on revamping my blog this weekend
14:06 WasabiCat huomenta
14:06 WasabiCat I was wondering if somebody could help me out with a console route
14:06 WasabiCat <route name=".fixtures" pattern="fixtures( -m {module_name:[A-Za-z_]+})?$" action=".Fixtures" />
14:07 WasabiCat I'm trying to get an optional flag plus its value like this: ... fixtures -m ModuleName
14:08 WasabiCat with a space before the -m and before the moduleName
14:08 WasabiCat the above route doesn't do it for some reason
14:13 digitarald has minimal console routing experience
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14:28 WasabiCat is anybody else experiencing grantRoles() on AgaviRbacSecurityUser to be ineffective?
14:29 WasabiCat It doesn't actually grant roles for me
14:29 WasabiCat getRoles() returns an empty array
14:30 WasabiCat I've already checked that the role is defined in rbac_definitions.xml
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14:52 WasabiCat do I have to turn on Rbac somehow?
14:52 WasabiCat except through <setting name="use_security">true</setting>
14:56 graste factories.xml?
14:57 graste haven't used it, but you may be required to specify the correct class there
14:58 Rendez when are the AgaviValidator NOTICE = 300, ERROR = 400 or CRITICAL = 500 called respectively?
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15:01 Rendez how are those severity errors understood?
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15:03 WasabiCat graste: thanks I did that already
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15:38 hzilla back from the dead
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15:51 intel352 hey all
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15:51 intel352 is it possible w/ agavi code generation, to auto-support relations?
15:51 intel352 one-to-one, has-many, etc?
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16:08 graste Rendez: you may specify severities in your validator xmls to e.g. silently ignore failing validation on arguments
16:11 Rendez I see, but still not sure how these are treated
16:11 Rendez I'll dig more myself
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16:18 digitarald m
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16:44 Xylakant Rendez: any questions about validation?
16:44 Rendez yeah well, just trying to grasp a bit of knowledge on how exactly the codes act
16:44 Rendez NOTICE = 300, ERROR = 400 or CRITICAL = 500 etc
16:45 Xylakant Error is the standard
16:45 Rendez since I'm using those to return http status codes for AJAX responses
16:45 Xylakant validation will fail
16:45 Xylakant don't do that
16:45 Xylakant critical will abort validation immediately and all subsequent validators will not run
16:46 Xylakant notice will generate an error that you can retrieve with the validation report, but validation in general will not fail
16:46 Xylakant the value will not be available though
16:46 Xylakant silent pretty much does the same but will suppress the error in the report afaik
16:48 Xylakant i'd not mess with the severity to return a status code
16:48 Xylakant you could use error messages as code
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00:22 movvy wierd one
00:22 movvy agavi doesn't have any built in activation type script stuff
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18:29 movvy good afternoon
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21:55 movvy hello
21:56 movvy wondering if agavi has built in email authentication?
21:56 movvy like the actvation link stuff
21:58 sth I doubt it
21:59 movvy didn't think so, but didnt waste time if there was some kinda of feature
23:04 Rayne is agavi yet php5.3 compatible? (=> namespaces)
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12:03 MikeSeth Rayne: ns compatibility will come in 2.0
12:03 MikeSeth btw
12:03 MikeSeth http://pastebin.com/f72bf5426
12:04 MikeSeth ponders
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12:57 Rayne meh. ic, thx
13:14 sth I thought 1.0.2 had NS support for external classes
13:27 Jarda namespaces would be great
13:27 Jarda but
13:27 Jarda I have no idea what the gain is comparing to prefixin classes
13:28 Jarda well, $foo = new Propel\models\Foo(); or $foo = new Agavi\ParameterHolder();
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13:48 MikeSeth Jarda: I see much rage in our future
13:49 MikeSeth PHP is fail
13:49 MikeSeth Agavi should be rewritten in Forth
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14:03 sth I say we rewrite it in C
14:04 Rayne MikeSeth, you want to write "5 3 + 7 2 + * ." instead of "(5 + 3) * (7 + 2)"? :D
14:04 Rayne at least haskell is more interesting :P
14:04 graste let's rewrite agavi in javascript with node.js
14:04 Rayne +1
14:05 Rayne like that flash javascript interpreter, epic win!
14:05 graste mootools is available in server version as well
14:05 Rayne eh … flash interpreter in javascript
14:06 graste agavi would be the first nonblocking application framework out there =)
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14:18 sth Node.js doen't support threading yet
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16:01 MikeSeth btw have you all seen HTML 5 canvas demo?
16:01 MikeSeth is win
16:12 hzilla which demo?
16:12 MikeSeth http://mugtug.com/sketchpad/
16:14 hzilla that's dope
16:15 hzilla the text thing is dodgy thi
16:15 hzilla tho
16:16 MikeSeth well, the technology is almost there
16:16 MikeSeth in a little bit we will be able to make truly interactive apps without slapping a whole pyramid of flash interaction on the juiciest bits
16:16 MikeSeth I'm so sick of PHP though
16:17 hzilla i'm sick of programming in general
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16:39 movvy iu
16:39 movvy hi*
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16:51 MikeSeth derp
16:51 MikeSeth hzilla: I should get a lawyer career
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18:59 hzilla MikeSeth: no i don't think so
19:01 hzilla i was thinking about a couple of ideas tho
19:01 hzilla like a net based voting system to make sure people don't abuse democracy - like exit polling but online
19:03 hzilla and a usb biometric scanner system to monitor people's health and stuff - some hardware required
19:04 hzilla i had an idea to do something like evernote years ago but they done it now
19:04 hzilla still loads of potential to do interesting things on the net
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19:09 Rayne hey guys
19:38 graste :)
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20:29 Rayne how do you name your project's "namespace"? (like Core => CoreBaseModel)
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01:41 MugeSo Huomenta
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02:56 MugeSo I want to use array parameter in routing like: <routing pattern="^/(foo[baz]:\w+)(/{foo[bar]:\w+)?$" />
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04:26 movvy hello
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05:17 Jarda MugeSo: why?
05:23 MugeSo I have model classified by several axises and I want to filter them with parameters.
05:27 MugeSo And I also want that the path /<axis1>/<axis2>/ can be change to /<axis2>/<axis1> without modifying validator nor action.
05:29 Jarda MugeSo: well I would do something like pattern="^/(foo:\w+)/(bar:\w+)/(baz:\w+)$" and then a custom validator with <arguments><argument>foo</argument><argument>bar</argument><argument>baz</argume​nt> and then export a array from the validator
05:29 MugeSo at the same time, axises change with environment.
05:30 Jarda but now off to work, will continue from there
05:30 MugeSo Thanks
05:39 MugeSo Jarda: I'll use RoutingCallback, it seems suit for my need :)
05:39 MugeSo Jarda: thanks a lot :D
06:00 Jarda no problem (if I really did help you :D)
07:00 movvy so I have tons of redundant html, i feel it must be bale to be used in a template somehow
07:00 movvy like for example the header / footer and menu system are almost always the same
07:03 v-dogg header, footer and menu are usually put into a decorator template (app/templates/Master.php by default) or into a slot
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07:05 movvy yeah but what if I have to like 'Master' templates
07:05 movvy 2 master templtes i mean
07:05 movvy so I have like 2 diff styles
07:05 movvy how do I like pick my decorator
07:06 movvy does that make sense :)
07:08 Jarda movvy: slots
07:09 Jarda take a look at the tutorial app and http://www.agavi.org/documentation/tutorial/step4/introduction.html
07:09 movvy hmmm I will read up on it tomorrow, its late, 2am
07:09 movvy thanks for all the help, chat tomorrow ;)
07:09 Jarda 9am here :D
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07:28 ttj How is it possible to cut yourself in the ear while shaving. Jesus... This week certainly started off well.
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09:02 graste huomenta
09:14 simoncpu huomenta!
09:15 simoncpu can i disallow spaces in the string validator?
09:15 simoncpu or do i need to use regex validator instead?
09:20 simoncpu uh... how do i pass a regex pattern?
09:20 simoncpu do i need to enclose it with CDATA or something?
09:24 MikeSeth simoncpu: string validator only validates lengths
09:24 MikeSeth if you want to match characters you want a regex validator aye
09:27 sth simoncpu: <ae:parameter name="pattern"><pattern here></ae:parameter>
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09:35 simoncpu i used <![CDATA[<pattern here>]]> just to be safe
09:35 simoncpu i found out that it just uses preg_match underneath... =)
09:36 simoncpu so i just copy/pasted my old regexes
09:39 MikeSeth simoncpu: yep
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10:37 E_mE huomenta
10:38 MikeSeth ohai
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13:09 Yossi_ Huomenta
13:10 Yossi_ Anyone knows how to change the way agavi formats currency amounts?
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13:14 krycek_ $tm->_c($float, null, 'en_US@currency=EUR');
13:23 krycek_ a logger is not handling phrases with accents correctly... the encoding of the file is UTF-8... what else could it be?
13:24 krycek_ there is no DB data in it
13:27 Xylakant krycek_: what is "not correctly"
13:27 krycek_ it puts "?" in accented letters like á ê ó
13:27 krycek_ and others like ç
13:29 v-dogg I haven't had any problems with ??? and I find it hard to believe agavi's loggers would touch the data in any way
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13:30 v-dogg where does the data come from? is it hard coded in your code?
13:30 krycek_ it logs user input data
13:31 Xylakant hmm, there's a ton of places where that could go wrong
13:31 krycek_ but the local version works fine... the production server logs that is giving me those "?"
13:31 Xylakant do you send the proper charset header?
13:32 Xylakant maybe you local server is set to utf8 as default while the production server is set to iso or something different
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13:33 graste or your terminal just shows wrong characters :)
13:33 Xylakant yeah, another option
13:35 krycek_ hmm... headers are ok...
13:35 krycek_ and I'm downloading those logs to my pc to see them
13:36 krycek_ I will try save that data in the DB to see what happens... thanks
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13:54 macen what would be needed to initiate a new execute request type? eg. executeAjax, specify a paramater in routing.xml perhaps?
13:54 macen parameter *
13:55 Xylakant macen: ajax should not be handled in the action
13:55 Xylakant otherwise, pretty much nothing
13:55 macen so define it as an output type then?
13:56 Xylakant a route can contain an attribute "method" such as 'method="Delete"' which would map to executeDelete
13:56 macen excellent
13:56 Xylakant you can remap the http verbs in factories.xml if you'd choose to
13:56 Xylakant and yes, ajax should be an output type
13:56 Xylakant there's very little need for other methods
13:57 saracen I disagree. JSON should be an output type. Or XML
13:57 macen so the method="" must have a matching output type then
13:57 Xylakant you'd need them in a proper rest interface but AFAIK all http verbs are mapped
13:57 Xylakant saracen: ajax is an output type
13:57 Xylakant it often generates html snippets without a layout
13:57 saracen But then the output type in that case is html
13:58 saracen Without a decorator
13:58 Xylakant macen: no
13:58 Xylakant saracen: so how do you name that as output type?
13:58 Xylakant I often see ajaxHtml and ajax as a short form
13:58 macen ok
13:58 Xylakant macen: if you want to set an output type use the output_type attribute for the route
13:58 macen the ajax method would be returning json, so i would need to map it to a json output type then, i presume?
13:59 macen ^^
13:59 macen yes
13:59 Xylakant and then yes, you'll need a matching output type declaration
13:59 macen ok
13:59 saracen Yeah, I don't like that. As "ajax" clearly isn't an actual output type. Wombert told me a decent solution: You can check to see if your ajax detection route was matched, then in your base view, if it was matched, send html without any decorators
13:59 macen thank you Xylakant
14:00 Xylakant and please, don't make yourself an unhappy man, don't mess with the request methods for ajax requests
14:00 Xylakant saracen: and if your ajax html response needs some different template?
14:00 Xylakant or if you want different decorators?
14:01 Xylakant is "whitelabelHtml" a valid output type?
14:01 saracen You don't have to make the check in your baseview, you could do it in the view for that action - Then you can just load any decorator/template or whatever you want
14:01 Xylakant certainly, but then I don't need output types at all
14:01 saracen You do, for different output types
14:02 impl lawl
14:02 saracen json, xml, html, png, jpeg, pdf
14:02 Xylakant an output type is just a predefined set of renderers and attributes that you associate with a name
14:02 impl saracen: stop being a douchenozzle
14:02 saracen impl: :D
14:03 Xylakant and if there is a renderer with a given set of parameters that I use for ajax requests, "ajax" is a perfectly fine name for that set
14:03 Xylakant so why is it not an output type?
14:03 Xylakant because it's not related to an "existing" format?
14:04 impl because ajax can't return json, it can only return xml
14:04 Xylakant because the "x" used to be "xml" ;)
14:04 Xylakant yes, that's nitpicking
14:04 impl nitpicking is what we do at Agavi :D
14:04 Xylakant often ajax returns partial html trees
14:04 impl hmm
14:04 saracen In which case, the output "type" is html :D
14:04 graste saracen: we've e.g. have an output type "GSA" for google search appliance and a "silverlight" output type for changes necessary for integrating it - basically it's still HTML, but... ;)
14:05 Xylakant saracen: wrong
14:05 Xylakant because it's just a name I give it
14:05 saracen So "ajax" is your magic output type which can return absolutely anything, given the request was from javascript?
14:05 graste yes :>
14:05 saracen Then why have output types
14:05 impl saracen: "ajax" serves the semantic purpose assigned to it, is the point
14:05 Xylakant and I need to distinguish between "the html i return for full page request" and "the html i return for partial requests"
14:06 Xylakant and I can name the first "dork" and the second "duck" if i choose to
14:06 graste :>
14:06 Xylakant as long as I and my team can remember the name
14:06 graste I'm with Xylakant here <:
14:06 impl executeDuck() // poor duck :(
14:06 Xylakant so the standard set of parameters that are usually used for ajax requests is named "ajax"
14:07 Xylakant because it's easier to remember than "duck"
14:07 graste we've even have an output type "fse" that's basically reusing executeHtml, that renders some additional buttons/info into it
14:07 Yossi_ krycek_: I should have been more specific what if I want to change the formatting to display the currency sign instead of the 3 letters, and drop the extra .00 he places at the end of the number
14:07 graste just because it's simpler to work with output types and assign different renderers instead of switching things in executeHtml() in views or templates
14:08 graste and have layouts of course
14:08 saracen It doesn't make sense to me. You might as well have executeSlot, because thats potentially partial html too. When you want use some javascript modal window thingy and you want it to load a specific action, you'll have to copy the logic from your executeHtml view in to executeJson
14:08 Xylakant well, actually that's what output types are for - they are a named set of parameters for the view (+ some magic)
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14:09 graste yes
14:09 graste they're just an abstract concept with assigned layout/renderer/returntype etc.
14:10 graste at least that's how I see them
14:10 Xylakant it's basically what they are
14:10 saracen Still doesn't make sense, unless you want to rename it. You'll end up with several output types, which essentially "output" the same content type.
14:11 impl so?
14:11 Xylakant agavi throws in the handling for you but that'S it
14:11 Xylakant saracen: yes, yes, that's it
14:11 impl output type != content type
14:11 graste saracen: we've got "xml" and "xmldownload" just to have correct http headers for certain dynamic content - sometimes you want to use the xml output and sometimes you want the browser to present it as an d/l
14:11 Xylakant for mtv we have 5 different xml content types
14:11 Xylakant because every stupid connector wants his own "xml"
14:11 Xylakant it's because xml != xml
14:12 Xylakant how would you handle RSS?
14:12 Xylakant there's rss 1.0 1.1 2.0 which are all essentially the same
14:12 Xylakant and they're all XML
14:13 v-dogg just support one :)
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14:13 graste atom!
14:13 Xylakant v-dogg: nice try
14:13 v-dogg :)
14:13 graste :)
14:13 impl it actually might be more sane to use some sort of RSSBuilder model for that or something wouldn't it?
14:13 Xylakant yes, certainly
14:13 Xylakant but you need to feed the proper parameters
14:14 Xylakant and so I usually have a separate output type for all of those
14:14 graste it's still 3 different routes for 3 output types that all use the builder in the view to generate the correct format version
14:14 impl aye
14:14 graste or whatever
14:14 graste ^^
14:14 Xylakant so I can handle the setup in separate methods and then delegate to the builder
14:15 Xylakant it's just another example that the output type != content type
14:15 saracen If it's 3 different routes, I could use 3 different actions, which call a model. Or I could use one action, which calls a model - Maybe I'm missing something, but I dont see the complication with using executeXml to output that data ;x
14:16 impl why would you handle RSS generation in an action
14:16 impl :<
14:16 saracen The generation would be done in a model, but the request would go to an action, is the way I'd probably do it
14:16 v-dogg oh hey impl, wat happened with the ele order?
14:17 impl v-dogg: nexen disappeared and I didn't get around to figuring out how to order them otherwise
14:17 v-dogg roger
14:17 impl then I let the domain expire by accident :x
14:17 impl I'll get to it though
14:17 v-dogg those french surrender monkeys...
14:23 sth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rJAw-fuYHk
14:26 saracen Silly question
14:26 graste saracen: it's the same action all the time as you need the same data for all your feeds
14:26 saracen anybody know how popular .com addresses are in south africa?
14:26 graste so it's just changes in your view depending on the output type (e.g. determined via routing)
14:26 graste what version to render
14:26 saracen graste: Yeah. Still not sure why i'd need seperate output types though
14:27 Xylakant saracen: keeps the code clean
14:27 Xylakant polymorphism for the win
14:27 graste to separate concerns instead of switch-case a version parameter you get from your url
14:27 sth saracen: http://www.google.co.za/ :D
14:28 saracen You'd have to have that switch case in your action though, if you're providing the data to several builder models
14:28 saracen So, but the time it meets your view. All you might have to do is change the output type (assuming you just dont tell it application/xml and the header handles the rest)
14:28 saracen Bah
14:28 saracen I meant content type*
14:29 Xylakant saracen: eerrm no
14:29 Xylakant the output type is independent from the action
14:29 Xylakant it operates on the same data
14:29 Xylakant all rss feeds contain basically the same information, but rss 1.0, 2.0 and atom differ slightly in the format
14:30 Xylakant the action does not need to know which xml format gets generated by the view
14:30 graste exactly
14:30 graste you can even generate your feed data as HTML or JSON or $whatever as previews or further use via js or whatever
14:31 saracen So, you're saying you'd get your model to generate the output, but that call would be made in the view?
14:33 graste it's the same 10 blog posts all the time (so you get them in your action via models) and then render that result array in your view as whatever the user asked for (via routing: rss 1, 2, atom, html, json, csv, whatever)
14:33 graste to render them you may use a model or builder or whatever
14:33 graste in your view
14:33 saracen I still dont see why I need several output types for that =(
14:33 graste wtf
14:33 graste :>
14:33 saracen I mean, I do for html, json, csv
14:34 saracen But if I'm getting a model to build the xml for me, to be specific to the type requested
14:34 saracen I could just do that in my view. Sure, I might have to use a switch. But so are you. The only difference is, you had to make your switch out of several functions and hard coded definitions in output_types, which all look the same just have a different name
14:34 saracen in my executeXml* rather, not view :)
14:35 graste okay, what would you do if RSS1 and RSS2 should be delivered differently - one needs certain http headers the other format is not allowed to use
14:35 graste I'm just changing http headers in output_type.xml without touching php code
14:35 graste you would add switch case in your action or view
14:35 graste to set headers
14:35 saracen And I'm just changing http headers in the view, without touching xml configuration
14:36 graste yeah and now some of your clients ask you, to deliver the RSS2 with certain additional headers
14:36 graste and information
14:37 saracen Additional information? Like what?
14:38 graste doesn't matter, you would start to write all that into your single method
14:38 graste or in your action/model
14:38 saracen So would you
14:38 saracen Unless you're going to some how add additional information via your output type
14:39 Xylakant saracen: no, the code specific to RSS2 would go to executeRss2
14:39 Xylakant it keeps methods short, properly named and scoped to their responsibility
14:40 Xylakant switch/case statements quickly grow in size and tend to become unwieldy
14:40 saracen Ok. Well if I ever get a request to add something large and additional to just one form of RSS, I'll be sorry =(
14:40 graste the other output types are not touched and I've got no problems to separate the code/results - in executeRss2ForSomeClient() I could even call executeRss2, take the result, add my changes or set mya http headers and by gone
14:40 saracen But im not sure why you wouldnt do it to rss1 either
14:40 saracen It's not like my method can't execute other methods
14:40 Xylakant no, certainly you can
14:40 graste but your method will grow and become unmaintainable
14:41 Xylakant but basically you replicate what agavi does for you
14:41 Xylakant and there's the question where you draw the line: do you place all output types that generate xml in one method?
14:41 graste and the probability of generating side effects when business logic gets more complicated for SomeClient and changing things for others will break things for former will suck when you have no test coverage
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14:42 graste while yith using output types you probably see fast enough what the problem is
14:42 graste s/yith/with
14:42 graste Xylakant and there's the question where you draw the line: do you place all output types that generate xml in one method?
14:43 graste it's like I remember rails or symfony: switch case response type
14:43 graste :>
14:43 graste and deliver whatever was requested
14:43 MikeSeth hey felix, did you see that libxmpl processor instruction exploit?
14:43 saracen Well, not everything. I mean, rss is classed as applicaiton/xml+rss I believe. That to me is a new valid output type.
14:43 graste now in agavi I have the framewok do this for me and I can concentrate on logic:)
14:43 MikeSeth http://pastebin.com/f72bf5426
14:43 MikeSeth ^^^
14:44 MikeSeth btw I just got the unit test suite to work, it's AWESOME
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14:44 impl MikeSeth: hah, that's awesome
14:45 graste pretty nasty MikeSeth :D
14:45 MikeSeth not really a problem for Agavi configuration system, but still the framework should turn this off explicitly IMO
14:45 Xylakant MikeSeth: if you have any recommendations for changes in the unit testing, feel free to send us a message
14:46 MikeSeth Xylakant: if you ask me, a per-project base class for unit tests would be nice
14:46 Xylakant MikeSeth: it's only a problem if you allow users to upload the xml and display it
14:46 Xylakant well, you can have one
14:46 MikeSeth I do have one :P
14:46 Xylakant but we currently do not generate one, true
14:47 MikeSeth well actually this means that the project build should generate a default test suite
14:47 MikeSeth currently it doesnt, the installation is manual and so the point is moot
14:47 Xylakant we're working on that
14:47 Xylakant actually, we'd like to generate a unit testcase for every model you generate
14:47 Xylakant same for actions, views and stuff
14:47 MikeSeth Xylakant: another nice feature would be locking/divertion of all logging
14:48 MikeSeth if you have loggers for console environment that are configured to spit out stuff to the console, unit tests will break
14:48 Xylakant hmm, true
14:48 MikeSeth so i had to write a special piece of config to go around that
14:48 Xylakant that's actually the intended way
14:48 Xylakant we could generate an appropriate config
14:49 Xylakant we'd actually prefer not to tie the testing system into the framework itself
14:49 MikeSeth other than this I have had no difficulties integrating the test suite
14:49 Xylakant but since there are only two appenders writing to console, we could maybe rig those
14:49 MikeSeth imo you could just divert all output to nowhere
14:50 MikeSeth though that'd prolly require digging in phpunit internals
14:51 saracen One of you needs a longer or shorter name. You alignment dazzlers
14:51 impl fixed-width font whore
14:52 MikeSeth my alignment is neutral evil
14:52 impl I'm chaotic neutral
14:53 saracen I thought somebody had sent me a giant toblerone this morning. I was well happy. Until I was passed it, and it was light. It was just in the right shaped box =(
14:53 saracen It was actually just an umbrella
14:53 MikeSeth impl: you're an anarchist?
14:53 MikeSeth ><
14:53 impl MikeSeth: pretty close :D
14:53 MikeSeth move to Somalia
14:53 MikeSeth I heard it's anarchist heaven over there
14:54 impl yeah I heard that too
14:54 impl alas, I don't speak any of their languages and so I'd probably rightfully be killed pretty quickly
14:54 Xylakant or be mistaken for a god
14:54 impl haha
14:54 Xylakant just wear your best furs, helmet and battle axe when you land
14:54 MikeSeth yes, that worked out well in south park
15:00 E_mE checkout the APR on this site: wonga.com
15:00 E_mE its laughable!
15:04 saracen i think thats the point :)
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15:27 hzilla lo - got a bit of an issue. I'm using a slot to generate an html fragment for an ajax call. i need some params from the module config but AgaviConfig is returning null - seems like its not setup when u call a slot
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15:31 Xylakant hzilla: that would be very much surprising
15:33 hzilla somethings up..
15:33 Xylakant the module config is set up the moment any action gets touched in the module
15:33 Xylakant however, if you're reading a config from a different module that may not be the case
15:35 hzilla ah yes thats it i think
15:35 hzilla i'm trying to grab the config of a different module
15:36 hzilla is taht poss?
15:38 Xylakant yes, in general
15:38 Xylakant but if you need to access a config from a different module, why don't you move that up the tree
15:39 Xylakant it somehow indicates that you separation is wron
15:41 hzilla one module for the user contains the settings for managing the image/avatar read/write - so i'm calling for that config in various places where avatars are needed in slots
15:41 Xylakant see - obviously the config should rather be global
15:42 hzilla so create a images.xml and stick the image options in the top config?
15:42 Xylakant in general you could call controller::initializeModule() but that's pretty much an internal api
15:42 Xylakant use at your own risk
15:52 Xylakant so I'd go create either an images.xml or maybe just stick the settings in the global settings.xml
15:52 Xylakant depending on how much there is to configure
15:53 hzilla its quite a bit so i think a seperate file is better. how then do i address it in get()? images.xml>configuration>settings>setting with name
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15:58 hzilla do i have to do a checkConfig?
15:59 hzilla i mean i have to include it explicitly right?
16:01 Xylakant what?
16:01 Xylakant you get the config with $config = AgaviConfigCache::checkConfig('path/to/file');
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16:03 hzilla ok thanks
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16:21 sth Xylakant: Does your new drive have USB as well?
16:21 Xylakant yes
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16:37 Yossi_ Any one knows how I can change the format $tm->_c() formats numbers?
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16:41 Xylakant you need to define a number-format in you translation.xml
16:56 Yossi_ Xylakant: Any example/which function retrieves those values?
16:56 Xylakant not atm
16:57 Xylakant and I don't have too much time to answer that question, so either someone else can help you or you could send an email to the mailing list
16:58 Yossi_ Xylakant: okay
17:06 Yossi_ I'll try to figure it out from the schema
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17:40 movvy what is the best way to handle like
17:40 movvy you know lets say you add a user, and you edit a user...
17:40 movvy like whats the best way, to handle editing
17:40 movvy adding is easy with forms and FPF
17:41 movvy but the editing form would be very close tot he adding form, not sure if agavi had some awesome tool for this
17:42 graste make edit user route, get user in action, assign input template in view and prefill FPF with user data
17:42 graste perhaps
17:42 graste <:
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18:24 Xylakant oh, php please: http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=18556
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18:27 impl hahah
18:27 impl PHP. you are awesome.
18:30 Xylakant adobe get's it's share of awesomeness: http://www.picpaste.de/Photoshop_Druck-Undo.png
18:31 Xylakant for all that don't speak german it says "Undo Printing"
18:31 Xylakant I wonder what's the implementation for that
18:32 Yossi_ wow, amazing
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18:46 Yossi_ Xylakant: let me just see if I get this right, the way I change the format of $tm->_c is create a filter function which is simply edits the output of _c just before it returns it
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19:09 movvy graste, I will check it out, i don't understand how to prefill FPF
19:09 movvy is there some functions to do so?
19:13 saracen The snippet for doing so should really go in the agavi FPF
19:13 saracen it gets asked all of the time
19:14 v-dogg "Agavi FAQ" is probably what you meant
19:15 movvy i think so :)
19:18 saracen lol, opps
19:18 saracen Yes it is
19:18 graste hm
19:19 graste http://pastie.org/815050
19:19 graste how about this snippet?
19:20 movvy thats elite
19:20 movvy that does it
19:21 graste or I could just add the populate method MikeSeth posted a few days ago: http://pastie.org/815052
19:21 saracen graste: That's not quite right
19:21 graste repaste it with errors fixed, movvy should try if it works and I add it to the faq
19:21 graste ^^
19:21 movvy yup, I will try it
19:22 saracen Ok, one sec
19:22 movvy its going to be about 30 minutes though, have to do some quotes for work :)
19:22 movvy just vpn'd out of my dev envioronment
19:23 graste :-)
19:23 graste no worries
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19:27 saracen http://pastie.org/815062
19:27 saracen various ways. All essentially the same
19:27 saracen I probably have a syntax error, given that the comments arent the right colour, but meh
19:28 graste s/getAttribute/setAttribute
19:28 graste <:
19:28 graste but thanks
19:28 saracen Yeah, should be setAttribute - except for the last one, which gets by reference
19:28 saracen Then theres no need to set, obviously
19:29 graste it's essentially similar to http://www.mivesto.de/agavi/agavi-faq.html#validation_8 but I think I'll add another faq entry explicitely for form population
19:29 graste well, dinner first ^^
19:29 saracen Last method is handy if you have various if statements, so you only want to populare various things because of something. Then you can split up the population
19:30 graste last method of yours?
19:30 graste right before mikes?
19:30 saracen yeah, before mikes
19:31 graste :-)
19:31 graste any other snippets to add to the faq you have at hand? ^^
19:31 graste I've got a lot in my opera's notes, but don't feel like writing entries as it's hard work ;)
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19:34 saracen Nothing I can think of atm :)
19:36 graste just remember it, when you hit a problem you have to look up in agavi's sources or somewhere
19:36 graste send that snippet to me ;)
19:37 graste last weeks questions about translations, currencies and date formatting reoccur all the time
19:37 graste imho
19:37 graste :)
19:47 krycek_ cookies need to be validated to be avaiable in an action?
19:47 Jarda krycek_: right
19:51 krycek_ i used to get the cookie value in 0.11.x with: $rd->getCookie("foo"); is that still the right way?
19:52 krycek_ i'm seeing the cookie value in the webkit web inspector, I have set the xml validation for that "argument"... but no value returned from the getCookie() in the action
19:54 v-dogg wrong validator source?
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19:57 krycek_ cookie, validator argument and getCookie()... all with the same name
19:57 graste did you specify a source attribute in your validator?=
19:58 krycek_ i guess not ;)
19:58 graste <validator ... source="cookies">
19:59 graste that's what v-dogg was thinking about, I'd say :)
19:59 Jarda yup
19:59 Jarda that's the one
19:59 krycek_ yes, he was right... that source att is new for me
19:59 krycek_ thanks, that was it
20:00 graste http://www.mivesto.de/agavi/agavi-faq.html#general_11
20:00 graste there is headers, files, cookies
20:00 graste as well
20:04 krycek_ hm, good faq you have there... agavi.org could have something alike
20:05 graste it's link is on the trac hp
20:06 krycek_ what is the reason for actions that has no execute() method(s) do not validated any input?
20:14 sth Sweet, I have the new facebook interface
20:15 saracen old
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20:15 sth heh
20:15 Jarda I admit that it can't be easy to upgrade a monster app like facebook
20:15 sth I need to put my old hard drive in the freezer
20:15 graste sweet, nobody other than those 400 mio people uses that web app anyways :P
20:16 Jarda but I still can't understand how shitty it has been working last days
20:23 Xylakant Well, the official upgrade policy is "move fast, break stuff"
20:24 Xylakant anyways, I'll be off, see you tomorrow
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20:34 saracen Sweet, my facebook interface just updated too
20:41 sth OLD
20:41 saracen That's what she said.
20:42 sth So's your face
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21:04 movvy im done with ym quoptes now, im reading the logs
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22:29 graste gn8 internet :-)
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22:38 MikeSeth urr durr
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08:17 MikeSeth derp
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09:09 MikeSeth ummm
09:09 MikeSeth why does phpunit do this
09:09 MikeSeth 1) testRemoteProfileStorage(BannerProfileTest)
09:09 MikeSeth RuntimeException: a:3:{s:10:"testResult";N;s:13:"numAssertions";i:2;s:6:"result";O:28:"PHPUnit_Fra​mework_TestResult":16:{s:9:"
09:10 MikeSeth wtf exception with serialize data
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09:24 MugeSo MikeSeth: maybe, the original exception class is not loaded out of isolation test environment.
09:24 MikeSeth MugeSo: hmmm
09:25 MikeSeth hole in autoloaders
09:25 MugeSo hmmm
09:27 MugeSo how about property of testcase class ?
09:28 sth Morning
09:28 MugeSo don't you set an instance to property in setup method?
09:30 MikeSeth no, it was doctrine magic causing this
09:34 MugeSo then, as a quick fix, I usually do testTestname(){try{/* test code */}}catch(exception $e){$this->fail($e->getMessage());}}
09:35 MikeSeth hah that should be in a base class somewhere :P
09:36 MikeSeth b
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09:43 MugeSo speaking of phpunit, I also got similar phpunit problem when i use AgaviViewTestCase.
09:45 Xylakant please feel free to report all problems with testing to the mailing list
09:45 Xylakant we're interested in feedback
09:45 Xylakant and I can't monitor and remember the channel all the time, but I tend to not forget what's in my mailbox
09:46 MugeSo Xylakant: ok, i see :)
09:47 sth Xylakant: In the end I got the WD My Book Elite yesterday.
09:47 sth I disapprove of the crapware they put on the drive though
09:47 Xylakant yes, though I can see some reason behind it
09:48 Xylakant if you use the hardware encryption you might be happy to have it along
09:48 sth Yeah
09:48 Xylakant and since I do, I guess I can live with that
09:48 Xylakant drive is nice though. quiet, fast
09:49 sth I like the screen
09:51 Xylakant i guess that really gets useful if you have more than one
09:52 Xylakant no more "darn, which one is backups, which one is videos?"
09:53 sth And the capacity bar.
09:54 Xylakant well, that's nice but not that useful. i can check the capacity when the drive is plugged in, i rarely have use for that when it's not
09:56 sth I wonder if the screen can be hacked to display other stuff
10:04 graste no, impossible!
10:04 graste <:
10:08 Xylakant graste: have you tried?
10:10 graste no
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10:10 graste but all those VCDs are usually hackable :)
10:11 graste I don't even know what you're talking about, as I don't know the drive
10:12 sth graste: http://pcarena.pl/uploads/file/MyBookElite3.jpg
10:12 sth And Xylakant has the version with firewire
10:13 Xylakant yes, since I have a mac with firewire ;)
10:13 sth :(
10:13 Xylakant I'd have bought a firewire version anyways, just as investment for the future
10:14 sth they didn't have the firewire version at saturn
10:14 Xylakant hmm
10:15 Xylakant well, order online ;)
10:15 sth On your pitiful German websites? :)
10:18 MikeSeth are there any tools for code coverage report generation in the current agavi testing stack?
10:20 Xylakant MikeSeth: the current stack in 1.1 supports all phpunit options
10:20 Xylakant sth: on pityfuk amazon.co.uk
10:23 MikeSeth zomg
10:23 MikeSeth i love you
10:24 Xylakant thanks :)
10:25 MikeSeth umm it generated coverage reports from / to /home
10:25 MikeSeth i mean
10:25 MikeSeth for projects other than intended
10:25 MikeSeth ponders
10:25 MikeSeth is it because of agavi autoload or something?
10:26 MikeSeth i mean there's an external library on which the target app depends which is situated outside the app directory.. and the report for it got generated
10:27 MikeSeth durr
10:31 Xylakant you can add files to the ignore list
10:32 Xylakant and yes, all files that get loaded are in the coverage report
10:32 sth Xylakant: I would have saved nothing :)
10:32 Xylakant use
10:32 Xylakant PHPUnit_Util_Filter::addDirectoryToFilter(<dirname>);
10:32 Xylakant sth: no, certainly. but you'd have firewire
10:33 sth USB is fine for now
10:33 graste http://www.knutster.com/bilder/1123/insel-der-flaschen/
10:33 graste :o
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10:56 MikeSeth Xylakant: any way to make it not cross topwards from a certain directory?
10:56 Xylakant no
10:56 Xylakant you can only explicitly list directories to exclude
10:56 MikeSeth goddammit, so it always generates beginnign with /home/foo?
10:56 Xylakant but all subdirectories will be excluded as well
10:57 Xylakant so you can exclude /home/foo unless your app lives in it
10:57 Xylakant you'll probably have to place the exclude in run-tests.php
10:57 MikeSeth it does
10:57 MikeSeth anf worse yet when you add wide exclusion filters like /usr it iterates over the entire contents of /usr making the coverage generation very slow
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11:09 Xylakant well, patch phpunit ;)
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11:28 khashayar hi
11:29 khashayar is there anyway to define a validator for a parameter to be defined globaly for all actions?
11:29 khashayar i have a parameter that appears in all actions and i don't want to copy & paste that validator in all validation.xml files
11:37 Xylakant khashayar: there's a global validation file in app/config and all other validation files should inherit from that file
11:38 Xylakant if you used the build system to generate the actions, that is
11:38 khashayar yes, i did. that's a relief, thanks Xylakant
11:38 MikeSeth haha khashayar has a bulb moment
11:38 MikeSeth Agavi is made of these
11:39 MikeSeth khashayar: and of course you can pack common validator configurations into XML files and include those in your action
11:39 MikeSeth Xylakant: d'ya know where Ross is these days?
11:40 MikeSeth he kinda fell off the radar
11:40 Xylakant no clue, you'd probably have to ask david
11:40 khashayar MikeSeth: thanks
11:41 Xylakant yeah, using xincludes for common sets would be an option as well
11:41 Xylakant you might also want to read this blog entry http://blog.agavi.org/post/284778196/save-letters-use-short-validator-names
11:44 v-dogg didn't ross jump into the python wagon like all the cool guys?
11:45 Xylakant anyways, off, grab some food
11:45 Jarda I'm cool and I hate python!
11:45 Jarda well I'm not nerd cool
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13:01 Jarda 8http://highscalability.com/blog/2010/2/8/how-farmville-scales-to-harvest-75-mil​lion-players-a-month.html
13:02 MikeSeth you mean retards
13:02 MikeSeth it's not hard to scale up in retards :P
13:03 digitarald who wants to buy my cow?
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13:18 graste arguing on the internet <:
13:19 Xylakant who's wrong?
13:21 Jarda (farmville users)
13:21 Jarda (and farmville creators)
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14:36 CIA-74 david * r4420 /branches/1.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix #1223: Generated action cache configs have caching enabled by default
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16:41 MikeSeth wtf
16:42 MikeSeth in one of my tests suddenly Doctrine_Query isnt loaded
16:42 MikeSeth durr
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18:44 movvy hello everyone
18:49 Xylakant hi
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20:52 digitarald Huomenta
20:55 digitarald btw, for personal use ;) http://github.com/digitarald/agavi-1.0
21:07 movvy so, i am trying to basically database dip on a validator, and if it returns I want to say the email is alreayd in use
21:10 movvy http://pastebin.com/m31d8f566
21:11 movvy hmm may have found it.. not sure why there was no error though :x
21:12 movvy i feel like it may not even be calling the class?
21:15 movvy I will really be getting somewher on validation once I figure this out!
21:22 movvy hmm, yeha loks like the validator class doesn't run at all, any ideas anyone ?
21:25 Xylakant movvy: what's the input data like?
21:25 Xylakant validators don't run when the argument is not present
21:26 Xylakant and your last validator depends on a dependency that no other validator provides
21:26 Xylakant so it will never run
21:27 Xylakant and as a side note, please don't use AgaviException in your own code, it's reserved for framework errors
21:28 movvy ok soa few things, A what should be my exception in that case
21:28 movvy b, do i need to add a provide to my second validator? that was what I maybe thought
21:29 Xylakant yes, you need the provides to fulfill the dependency
21:29 Xylakant and you can use a regular plain Exception or create your own Exception class if you need on
21:30 Xylakant it's just that when someone reports an AgaviException we assume that it's a framework error
21:30 movvy gotcha, thats cool
21:30 movvy I might write an error logging class
21:35 Xylakant you can use AgaviLogger for most of your logging purposes
21:35 Xylakant there are some points that I'd like to change but overall the logging subsystem is quite ok
21:37 movvy alright i will check it out, thanks Xylakant, I also just fixed up my custom validation class ;)
22:04 movvy ok i got one more for you
22:04 movvy so lets say that in my form
22:04 movvy www.touchbasedemo.com/userauth/register
22:04 movvy my email and username, they are the same query
22:05 movvy im wondering if there is a reutnr from that query if it can be used to validate off in the future
22:05 movvy oh... hmm .... nm
22:09 movvy now i just need to figure out how to change the text on the FPF stuff
22:12 Xylakant hmm, I don't understand your question
22:12 Xylakant a validator can have multiple arguments
22:12 Xylakant but I guess that's not what you want
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23:14 movvy hmmm
23:15 movvy i don't know why my 2 newest validaotr show up ina diff plce in the fpf :<
23:16 movvy www.touchbasedemo.com/userauth/register
23:16 movvy for example if you type Touchbase is int eh company there error come above
23:16 movvy if you type in chadstachowicz@gmail.com is displays the error below the email
23:17 movvy same problem with the username... what controls this? :)
23:20 impl HEY MIKESETH
23:26 movvy its using the self:: instead of the parent:: filter for the messages
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23:33 movvy :(
23:39 movvy BLEH and there is some how a random >?
23:40 movvy }?> appearing
23:40 movvy ;(
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00:04 movvy k figured that one out, now I just need to understand how agavi deterines which set of filters it uses
00:08 movvy well, I will move onto something else and wait until someone who knows what they are doing somes around ;)
00:20 movvy its strange it only reports it once to, it never erases the errors
00:20 movvy :(
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02:33 movvy hello
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06:37 digitarald Huomenta
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08:42 graste huomenta
08:44 matbtt_ morning :)
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10:02 MikeSeth ay guise
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10:25 sth Morning
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11:21 Jarda http://wiki.github.com/facebook/xhp/
11:21 sth Do they have benchmarks?
11:23 Jarda http://toys.lerdorf.com/archives/54-A-quick-look-at-XHP.html
11:30 hzilla hey Xylakant i am updating to 1.0.2. did i have some special AgaviWebReponse class installed to handled the response attributes? i get an error: Call to undefined method AgaviWebResponse::setAttribute()
11:32 Xylakant hzilla: yes, we patched that
11:33 Xylakant there's two changesets you need to pull in
11:34 hzilla would it be ok to use the one i had before and drop it in extending the 1.0.2 webresponse?
11:34 hzilla or are there other changes?
11:34 Xylakant there's some minor changes, it's not only the web response
11:35 Xylakant just have a look at the changesets, they should be easy to find in the logs
11:35 hzilla ok
11:40 hzilla looks like only one significant change - something to do with the http headers
11:42 hzilla sorry which files were patched? AgaviWebResponse and AgaviResponse?
11:43 Xylakant all response classes iirc
11:43 hzilla ok
11:48 Xylakant it should be one or two changesets and they should apply cleanly to 1.0.2 as well
11:54 hzilla yeh it looks like the changes are to some http header processing and simply the response class extends attributeholder instead of parameterholder
11:54 hzilla seems to be working so far
11:55 Xylakant fine
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12:37 Jarda If I have a dynamically created form, what would be the best way to create the form in error template?
12:37 Jarda sniff $rd for the posted inputs or?
12:38 Jarda well, maybe I should add javascript validation in this particular case
12:56 Xylakant Jarda: well, how did you create it dynamically?
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13:15 Yossi_ Huomenta
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13:33 Jarda Xylakant: with javascript
13:33 Xylakant well, that's tough then
13:33 Xylakant since if validation fails you'll never have access to the data you might need
13:34 Xylakant it really depends on how your form is constructed
13:34 Jarda in this case it's a table with inputs (in a multidimensional array), so I can check if a row should be created or not
13:34 Jarda well, at least in 99% of cases
13:35 Xylakant you may be able to smuggle in a hidden field that always validates unless there's something very wrong and could use that
13:35 Jarda if actually 100%, if I add a hidden field with name="foo[<rowid>][existing]"
13:35 Xylakant yeah, that's what I meant
13:35 Jarda I know
13:35 Xylakant so you could use that to reconstruct the form in the error view
13:35 Jarda your line just came visible when I was hitting enter
13:37 Xylakant that's probably the cleanest way
13:37 Jarda yeah, I will do it that way
13:37 Jarda thanks
13:38 Xylakant otherwise you could access the unvalidated request data in the actions initialize method, but that's more than ugly and in general not recommended
13:40 Jarda yeah, feels hackish
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15:49 cheerios_ hei!
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16:21 Jarda <input id="foo" name="bar" value="foo" type="hidden" /> alert($('#foo').val()); gives nothing
16:23 Xylakant err, yes, probably
16:23 Xylakant first, there's script tags missing
16:23 Xylakant second, depending on your framework, the $ function accepts an id
16:23 Jarda jquery
16:24 Xylakant and your id is 'foo" and not '#foo'
16:24 Xylakant i don't support jquery questions
16:24 sth haha
16:24 Jarda jquery selectors use # for the id
16:24 Xylakant often the $$ function is the selector
16:25 Xylakant and not $
16:25 Jarda not in jquery
16:26 Jarda but the problem is, also chromes inspector thinks there is no valua
16:26 Xylakant that would be weird
16:26 Jarda so I'm starting to believe it is missing from the dom
16:27 Xylakant but the api docs for jquery are crap, so it's hard to tell whether $() actually returns a single element or a set
16:27 Jarda and I'm using fpf to populate values, so I'm afraid it erases the value
16:28 Xylakant oh, that may be
16:28 Xylakant if there's no value in there
16:28 Xylakant you can either tell fpf not to fill in hidden values at all
16:29 Xylakant or to skip specific names
16:29 Xylakant but you should actually see that in your html source
16:29 Xylakant if it's in the generated source, then it's not fpf
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16:30 Jarda yeah, it's missing
16:30 Jarda http://pastebin.com/m13bb6cfb foo is an multidimensional array coming from database
16:30 Jarda and my hidden field (with the name of baz) isn't part of the array
16:30 Jarda so I thought it wouldn't be touched by fpf
16:32 Jarda how can I tell fpf to leave it :)
16:32 Jarda well, I can workaround this in js, no problem
16:35 Xylakant there's a pretty good explanation of all the fpf options in the docs http://www.agavi.org/documentation/tutorial/step7/the-form-population-filter.htm​l
16:36 Xylakant finally i begin to understand why everybody complains that there's so little documentation
16:36 Xylakant it's because nobody ever bothers to read it
16:37 Xylakant you can either set the option globally or just for that action
16:38 Xylakant by using $request->setAttribute('option_name', 'value', 'org.agavi.filter.FormPopulationFilter');
16:40 Jarda oh, thanks
16:41 Jarda now I know where to look at
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16:46 sth Well that scared me. Walked out of the bathroom and there was a small boy standing in the dark waiting
16:46 sth Like 50cm from the door
16:53 Xylakant buh
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17:16 movvy hmm, so anyone kind enough to look at something and posibly know why the FPF is choosing parent:: over self:: in the global filters for displaying errors
17:16 movvy its only 2 fields... i don't understand how that is defined
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17:17 movvy http://cuismailer.touchbasedemo.com/userauth/register
17:17 movvy if you just clikc register... you will see that... You did not enter a company name... appears uptop
17:17 movvy I want it below the Company field like the other fields, i don't know what is making it do that.
17:17 movvy I will paste my validate xml and global filters
17:19 movvy http://pastebin.com/m299c7155
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17:21 Xylakant the input is named "company"
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17:21 Xylakant and the validator takes "customer" as argument
17:21 Xylakant so it uses a field that does not exist and FPF does not know which field to associate the error message to
17:21 Xylakant so it gets associated with the form
17:22 Xylakant fix the argument for the validator and all should wordk
17:22 Xylakant -d
17:23 Xylakant same thing for the customer_usage validator
17:23 Xylakant actually, why do you split that up in two validators?
17:23 Xylakant the first one just checks that the name is set
17:23 movvy I don't know, woudl you like to show me a better way :)
17:23 movvy im sorry ima newb
17:23 Xylakant just remove the first one
17:24 Xylakant the second one will error when it's set to required="true" and no value is provided
17:24 Xylakant hmm, but you wrap that in a "not" validator
17:25 Xylakant that's a bit tricky then
17:25 movvy uhm
17:25 Xylakant you could have the validator return "true" in case the name is not taken
17:25 Xylakant unless you want to use it somewhere else, that is
17:25 movvy Xylakant, i thought about that
17:25 movvy Xylakant, i don't see where this company is
17:26 movvy www.touchbasedemo.com/userauth/register
17:26 movvy view source before clicking button
17:26 movvy it shows customer in the actual form
17:26 Xylakant yeah, and now submit the form and check again
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17:27 Xylakant you're obviously not using the same template for both
17:27 movvy scratches head
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17:27 movvy omg
17:27 movvy im a fucking idiot
17:27 movvy i need to sleep more
17:27 movvy I WASTED OS MUCH TIME ON THIS LAST NIGHT
17:28 movvy lol thanks Xylakant I found it!
17:28 Xylakant just make both use the same template
17:28 v-dogg it's called learning
17:28 Xylakant it's the same form
17:28 v-dogg not wasting time
17:28 Xylakant v-dogg: yeah, and there's always a price to pay :)
17:28 movvy Xylakant, yeah, I did that for my newest form
17:29 movvy this particular form was my first tyr
17:29 Xylakant well, just change it so it does as well
17:29 movvy I will clean it up
17:29 Xylakant will save you lots of pain later on
17:29 movvy i agree
17:30 movvy i feel just learning MVC in general, has to be beneficial
17:30 movvy there is lots of web architectures using MVC from what I read
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17:31 movvy but yes learning ;)
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17:42 movvy sigh
17:42 movvy ok well I think that is fixed, that was annoying the living hell out of me
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17:46 digitarald hey folks
17:46 digitarald anybody already played with http://github.com/facebook/xhp ?
17:46 digitarald looks awesome, I love it
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18:03 Jarda looks nice
18:03 Jarda (needs apc)
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18:17 Xylakant would be nice if you could enable the xhp processor only for certain parts of the code
18:18 Xylakant for example in the renderer
18:19 Jarda yeah
18:20 Jarda AgaciXHPRenderer :)
18:20 Xylakant yeah, thought about exactly that
18:21 Xylakant and it would be nice to just imply the "echo", then templates would look very clean
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18:48 Xylakant oh yeah, the use of "OMFG" is forbidden in the pre-commit hook
18:48 Xylakant seems like they need it
18:48 Xylakant right, let's resort to other words expressing the same thing
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18:58 matbtt_ Huomenta, is there a recommended way how to use AgaviGettextTranslator with message variables...
18:59 matbtt_ ...I need to return a message like "Account % has been created" where % is the name of that account
18:59 movvy Xylakant, that FPF is fixed for customer now, however it looks as if username isn't getting any treatment :<
19:00 movvy 0 validation
19:02 Xylakant matbtt_: have a look at the api-docs, especially AgaviTranslationManager::_()
19:03 Xylakant it accepts an sprintf-style format string and parameters
19:03 Xylakant movvy: please post the current validation.xml and the url again
19:05 matbtt_ ...thx, my fault! I was looking at the translate method of AgaviGettextTranslator. Damn.
19:06 Xylakant if you need to translate messages that can have singular/plural forms you might want to have a look at AgaviTranslationManager::__() as well
19:07 movvy www.touchbasedemo.com/userauth/register
19:07 matbtt_ ...yeah! Thx a lot!
19:07 movvy http://pastebin.com/m11ca4f53
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19:14 movvy ahh
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19:14 movvy i found it i think
19:14 movvy depends instead of a provides ;)
19:15 Xylakant good
19:16 movvy thanks again Xylakant
19:16 movvy do you work for bitxtender if you dont mind me asking?
19:16 Xylakant np
19:16 Xylakant didn't do anything this time
19:16 movvy yea but willing to even look is still nice :)
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19:46 movvy so like is there a way to handle redirecting after so many seconds
19:46 movvy like after they register successfully, just say you have reigster successfully wait 5 seconds or clikc here
19:46 movvy type of thing?
19:47 movvy how do i do this? ;)
19:49 v-dogg google html meta refresh
19:53 movvy ahh yes, i remember this, but this goes in the header right?
19:53 movvy so somehow I would need a new template ?
19:53 movvy Master.php, I wouldn't want to use this
19:54 movvy <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="5;url=http://example.com/"; />
19:54 movvy i want that :)
19:54 movvy but it must be a diff template I would want to use
19:56 v-dogg or you add it there dynamically
19:58 movvy what would you do? I feel like somehow I have to know how to give different templates
19:58 v-dogg <?php if isset($t['htmlmeta']) foreach($t['htmlmeta'] as $he => $content): ?><meta http-equiv="<?php echo $he; ?>" content="...
19:58 movvy or should i really only do that if its drastically differnet?
19:59 movvy im just curious... if you haven't noticed im newish to web dev
19:59 movvy at least on a scale, that i may acutally make a useable website :)
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20:30 hzilla hm environment-create not in the build system anymore?
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21:06 movvy am I right that the Error View is selected automatically when validation fails?
21:06 movvy is this true?
21:06 movvy and if so, how do I select my template within the view?
21:07 movvy op got it
21:07 movvy hmm maybe not
21:08 hzilla return 'Name' from the action
21:08 movvy that sets the view, not the template right?
21:08 hzilla template is $this->getLayer('content')->setTemplate('Name');
21:08 hzilla from the view
21:09 movvy is it always content?
21:09 hzilla depends on your output_types def
21:09 hzilla but usually that is the case
21:09 movvy do still need to call $this->setupHtml($rd);
21:09 hzilla yes
21:09 movvy and if so before or after setting the template
21:09 hzilla before
21:10 movvy thank you dude, its very appreciated!
21:10 movvy giving it a shit now
21:10 hzilla BAM
21:10 movvy lol
21:10 movvy a shit now, shot*
21:13 movvy Template "Input" could not be found. Paths tried:
21:13 movvy i assume it needs the full template name
21:13 hzilla yeh
21:13 hzilla where the blazes is environment-create gone in 1.0.2?!
21:14 movvy sweeet
21:14 movvy it works hzilla thanks!
21:14 movvy also one more question, do I need to do some kind of view-delete script if I delete something
21:14 movvy or cna i just delete the files?
21:15 hzilla using source control?
21:15 movvy am I?
21:15 hzilla yes?
21:15 movvy I just have amercurial repository
21:15 movvy im not sure if thats source control
21:15 hzilla well then delete through your ide should be ok
21:16 movvy ok, i just didn't know if that script did anything else
21:16 hzilla nah
21:19 movvy this is awesome
21:19 movvy im getting into the final stages of planning my vacation to hawaii
21:20 movvy so far I have sport fishing... ATV tour through the island of kauai and waterfall swimming
21:20 movvy snorkling a laua and whale watching tour
21:20 movvy need 1-2 more things
21:26 hzilla north beach surfing and eat original kua'aina burger
21:26 hzilla hula watching
21:26 movvy i believe north beach is on auhu
21:26 movvy err
21:28 hzilla u not going to oahu?
21:28 hzilla well its all good
21:29 hzilla volcanos
21:29 movvy we are going to Maui and Kauai
21:29 movvy 11 nights total
21:29 movvy 6 on maui, 5 on kauai.
21:34 hzilla first time?
21:35 movvy yup
21:35 movvy we are going to san fran 3 nights before we leave for maui to
21:35 movvy sweet vaca!!!
21:57 movvy interesting
21:57 movvy another FPF problem, this may be more complex
21:58 movvy http://www.touchbasedemo.com/notification/addnotdevice
21:58 movvy so if you click one of the radio buttons, it cahnges the form's html dynamically.. is this going to be a problem?
21:58 movvy im getting some FPF error
21:58 movvy Line 43: Specification mandate value for attribute checked
22:02 movvy i thought i could just put anything optional with no required setting
22:05 movvy alright figured that out, now all I want is for this FPF, that it shows NO error's if it can;t find the field
22:05 movvy but only on this form
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22:20 hzilla use error_messages and populate parameters
22:20 hzilla populate identifies the form to target
22:21 hzilla error_messages are messages that are not for a particular field
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22:27 movvy hmm
22:27 movvy did you look at my page
22:27 movvy the issue, is that its validating everything... i want it to make some fields completely optional
22:28 movvy does that make sense?
22:30 movvy hmm this looks like it may be impossible with the javascript i am using to manipulate the form
22:31 movvy oh, I guess I know what I need to do!
22:31 movvy add some logic to the validators based on the devtype
22:31 movvy genious!
22:33 movvy http://pastebin.com/m186d48b4
22:33 movvy how do I make it so the phone will only be validated ID devtype = 'email'
22:33 movvy err im sorry
22:33 movvy devtype = 'sms'
22:33 movvy this is def my issue ;)
22:36 movvy i know it must be on a depends
22:37 movvy i am sure i use the equlas, but how do i do something static
22:39 hzilla its better to ask a specific question rather than just rambling...
22:41 movvy I am trying to make a validation rule that if devtype paramter="sms"
22:41 movvy then run another validator
22:41 movvy that way its conditional
22:41 hzilla what u mean devtype parameter?
22:41 movvy http://pastebin.com/m186d48b4
22:41 movvy the first validator in that pastebin
22:41 movvy the argument is devtype
22:42 movvy so I know on that one I need a provides
22:42 hzilla i think there is an equals validator
22:42 movvy but what im not sure is how to make an equales validator that uses a static value
22:42 movvy i have it working for say a password and a confirm password
22:42 movvy but they are both arguments
22:42 movvy i don't know how to compare an argument against a static string
22:43 hzilla yeh so if one argument devetype = sms then set provides="sms"
22:43 hzilla ah
22:43 movvy correct, then I can use that depends on the right values
22:43 movvy so its stops tossing errors and runs my action
22:43 hzilla well if its an array i can use the in array validator
22:43 hzilla u
22:43 hzilla that lets u set array values
22:44 hzilla is it an array?
22:45 hzilla its a checkbox right?
22:45 movvy radio button
22:45 hzilla radio?
22:45 movvy but provides a string
22:45 hzilla ok i haven't used a direct value checker but u could definitely use the regex validator and set a pattern
22:46 movvy alright just tossed some config together
22:46 movvy let me give it a whirl :)
22:51 movvy if($this->hasParameter('value')) {
22:51 movvy in the validator
22:51 movvy how do I set value :)
22:52 movvy ahh
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22:54 hzilla u using a custom validator? well u use export()
22:55 movvy nope im not
22:55 hzilla waht are u referring too?
22:55 hzilla is this still validation?
22:55 movvy yeah so I got it to kinda work, but there is still an issue kinda of
22:55 movvy let me paste new validator
22:56 movvy http://pastebin.com/m6c718b1f
22:57 movvy yeah, I guess it doesn't matter, im going to have to seperate out the URL's anyways
22:57 movvy the FPF's doesn't look at form's that have been changed by javascript, it must work off the previous template somehow?
22:58 hzilla i think this is getting too complicated for that simple form
22:58 movvy well all the problems seem to be spanning from he fact that i dynamically tried to change it with javascript
22:58 hzilla fpf will only repopulate if it has been posted into
22:59 hzilla ok so u are chaning the form fields when u click the radio?
22:59 movvy I would say, it doesn't look like I am doing something very nicely
22:59 movvy correct
22:59 movvy i put div's in, and i was changing the innerHTML
22:59 hzilla if devtype is the key element here that only has one choice
23:00 movvy http://www.touchbasedemo.com/notification/addnotdevice
23:00 movvy you can look at it, if it helps :)
23:01 hzilla right the devtype radio is required - the other fields can be set to required="false" that way they only validate if they are posted
23:01 hzilla simple
23:01 movvy it doesnt matter though, click on Twitter
23:01 hzilla that's the quick option anyway
23:01 movvy and hit add device
23:01 movvy and notice, that it reverts to the email form
23:03 hzilla u r sending devtype in the post so in the template you can switch on devtype - u have to use dynamically generated js
23:04 hzilla so when your doc is repopulated u can use showField(<?php echo rd->getParameter('devtype'); ?>) {}
23:04 movvy alright, required = "false fixes most of it
23:04 movvy i thought false was the default :)
23:04 movvy it appears to be true ;)
23:04 hzilla yes
23:05 hzilla u understand aboud the js?
23:05 movvy sort of, im trying to get my head around it
23:05 hzilla ok so u have some js in the page
23:05 hzilla when u click a radio it shows different panel right?
23:06 movvy correct it changes the 'input' fields of the form
23:06 hzilla so when u submit u r sending in the devtype at least. if there is an error u can get the devtype in rd->getParameter()
23:07 hzilla so in your form you just preset your panel switcher to that
23:07 movvy correct I can, in the errorview
23:07 movvy and I can add some on load, but the question is, when does the filter do its magic
23:07 movvy im guessing that willa ctually wipe away the error's
23:07 hzilla the filter will populate any fields anyway
23:07 hzilla no it won;t
23:08 hzilla the js just switches panel - it doens't change the html
23:08 hzilla the html is already marked up with the error
23:09 movvy ahh thats where your wrong, this uses innerhtml, how should i be doing the js ?
23:09 movvy those aren't new panels
23:09 hzilla ah i see
23:09 hzilla ok well there;s your problem
23:09 movvy im not saying my way isn't done wrong
23:09 movvy i just didnt know another way?
23:09 hzilla i woould make all the files in the form and just show/hide them
23:09 hzilla fields
23:10 movvy how do I show hide a field?
23:10 hzilla display:none
23:10 hzilla css
23:10 hzilla on the panel
23:10 hzilla so create a few div panels
23:11 hzilla and use display:none or display:block css to hide/show
23:11 movvy yeah so each field is wrapped in a div
23:11 hzilla each set of fields
23:11 movvy oh i see what your saying you would put a div around each
23:11 hzilla show/hide as a group
23:12 hzilla otherwise the fpf will be useless to u
23:12 movvy no i get it
23:12 movvy so just makea show CSS and a HIDE CSS
23:12 movvy and change it in JS?
23:13 hzilla togglePanel()
23:13 hzilla togglePanel(id)
23:13 hzilla if u use a js lib it makes things like that easy eg. jquery etc
23:13 movvy i have jquery loaded
23:14 movvy i use it for a few things
23:14 hzilla right so u can just do $("#panel1").show()
23:14 movvy hmm
23:14 movvy i need to read on this.. im such a newb!
23:14 movvy does .hige exist?
23:15 hzilla well u are the one that is using innerHtml!
23:15 hzilla yeh hide() also
23:15 movvy lol, i didn't know another option existed
23:15 movvy i was determined to get it done!
23:15 hzilla ok listen its easy
23:15 hzilla lay out all the fields in the form
23:15 movvy im going to go modify my template first
23:15 movvy give me a few
23:15 movvy i understand the concept
23:16 movvy when you say panel, thats jsut a specific div id right?
23:16 hzilla wrap each group with a div and id the div like devtype1 devtype2 etc whatever u use for the devtype values
23:16 hzilla then u can show/hide using the jquery
23:16 movvy in your above
23:16 hzilla yeh
23:17 movvy is'panel1'
23:17 movvy the id
23:17 hzilla yeh
23:17 movvy do i always use the #
23:17 movvy or only if it was in my div id
23:17 hzilla there's lots of different syntax - u need to check the jquery 'selectors' documentation
23:17 movvy ok
23:17 hzilla # is for id
23:17 movvy my gosh, web dev is overwheliming
23:17 hzilla u should see what i'm building
23:18 movvy heh
23:18 hzilla u might start crying... i do sometimes
23:18 movvy lol
23:18 movvy well, It just so fucking tedious
23:18 movvy im also constantly shooting myself in the foot
23:18 hzilla yeh i hate forms
23:18 movvy because i am learning 100% of the time
23:18 hzilla but they are so important
23:18 movvy yeah they are the most critical
23:18 movvy this required="false" i don't think is the right solution
23:19 movvy i mean it works.. but i want things to be required when they are on their JS panel and its active
23:19 movvy my equals works that I made, but it still tosses an error message
23:19 movvy i need the exact config i ahve but no error
23:19 movvy if it error's i just want the FPF to ignore it
23:19 hzilla ok ut that's a relatively easy problem to solve
23:20 movvy yeh forms are the worst
23:20 movvy but i now see the absolute power of validation + FPF
23:20 movvy if done right, it must save massive work once you know wtf your doing
23:20 movvy im glad im spending so much time on agavi stuff now
23:20 hzilla its nasty when you are mixing js and forms
23:21 hzilla esp if doing ajax submmission
23:21 movvy yeah actually when you go to my
23:21 movvy "SMS" type radio
23:21 movvy that select box is populated via JSON
23:21 hzilla and then with translation as well its a bitch
23:22 hzilla i see. but that's a get. i'm talking about json post + fpf + translation
23:23 movvy uggg, I have posting working for saving this interface im building
23:23 movvy www.contacular.com/survey/1
23:23 movvy its probably broken now, that project is a pain in the balls as well
23:24 hzilla anyway...
23:24 movvy im remaking my form right now
23:24 movvy hopefully this will fix it :)
23:25 movvy then fpf, i see how it will work
23:31 movvy alright so i fixed the form itself
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23:41 movvy hmm, how do i select my beinging panel, my <body> command is in my Master.php
23:41 movvy cries
23:41 movvy it never ends
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23:50 movvy ok hzilla, this is really close!
23:50 hzilla whatsup?
23:51 movvy well... how to kick off togglePanel on load
23:51 movvy its in Master.php
23:51 movvy :(
23:51 hzilla not in the template?
23:51 hzilla u might as well put it in the template
23:51 movvy no, do you useually put that in the template?
23:52 hzilla its easier
23:52 hzilla and its specific to the form
23:52 hzilla and it needs to be generated so i would
23:52 movvy ahh yeah thats way easier
23:52 movvy its only one line difference
23:54 movvy where are the parameters in template?
23:54 movvy $t['variable'] ?
23:54 hzilla rd->getParameter()
23:54 movvy in a template?
23:55 hzilla did u set the fpf to generate template variables
23:55 hzilla ?
23:55 hzilla guess not
23:55 hzilla so u can access fpf params using that
23:58 movvy sec.. im close I think
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00:00 movvy http://10.1.1.55/notification/addnotdevice
00:00 movvy mmm
00:00 movvy www.touchbasedemo.com/notification/addnotdevice
00:00 movvy any idea what that notice is?
00:01 movvy $devtype = $t['devtype'];
00:02 movvy it appears to come up the first time it loads cause its empty?
00:02 hzilla yes
00:03 movvy is there an empty something or other to compare against in php
00:03 movvy like to see isf a variable is even populated
00:03 movvy does null work?
00:04 movvy pfft man this is getting annoying!
00:04 hzilla $devtype = isset($t['devtype']) ? $t['devtype'] : '';
00:05 hzilla or false
00:05 hzilla the in your js
00:06 hzilla togglePanel(<?$devtype;?>);
00:06 hzilla or that
00:06 movvy first one worked :)
00:06 movvy now just a tiny bit of validation to fix and im good
00:07 movvy because switching works now.. but a few other things broke :)
00:09 movvy how about holding back error's in the validator now
00:11 movvy once i can suppress those im freaking there
00:11 movvy only took 2 hours :)
00:11 hzilla u get errors because u set required=true
00:12 hzilla if they were false or depends then it would be ok
00:13 movvy will paste... trying to get the equls working straight false doesnt work, because depending what panel you are on they are indee required
00:13 movvy so I made an equals validator... which does indeed work witha static value
00:13 movvy but if it doesn't match the devtype it error..s even though thats only a conditiona
00:15 movvy isn't there like some magical parameter you can pass
00:15 movvy like error = false
00:21 movvy that an to figure out why my on load is broken :)
00:22 movvy CHECK THAT SHIT OUT
00:22 movvy error = false actually worked
00:22 movvy lol
00:22 movvy thank you agavi for thinking like me
00:23 hzilla ?
00:24 movvy damn it actually didn't work
00:25 movvy http://www.pastebin.org/89809
00:26 movvy that middle validator.. if it actually come back as not equal
00:26 movvy i jsut want it to stop, i don't want an error message
00:26 movvy i just want it to pretend nothing happened :)
00:27 hzilla what error message is it sending?
00:28 movvy right now its just a bullet point
00:28 movvy since i deleted <errpr>
00:28 movvy error*
00:28 movvy then i tried adding error=false
00:28 hzilla i don't htink u r really thinking logically about this
00:29 hzilla that's your main problem
00:29 hzilla u don't need the first validator
00:29 hzilla not at this stage anyway
00:29 movvy well my point was that i can't take the phone argument and set it to required="false"
00:30 movvy yes it makes the error go away
00:30 movvy but when the devtype is sms it is required
00:30 movvy however if the devtype isn't sms, i don't want it to throw an error, for me just doing a little equal logic in the validators
00:30 movvy not at least that the use can see
00:31 movvy the logic works, i tested it, its just when the devtype ISN't sms it tosses an error
00:31 hzilla http://www.pastebin.org/89811
00:32 hzilla then make the validators for the other devtypes
00:32 hzilla then test
00:37 movvy nah.. even with removing the first and making it not required... since devtype is provided... it error's
00:37 hzilla ok it errors because devtype is not equal to sms so thats the problem
00:37 movvy i understand but it can be = to 3 things
00:38 movvy thats my problem
00:38 movvy on those 3 conditional, i dont want it to actually error i want to use it as a conditional
00:38 movvy maybe agavi, cannot over ride its throwError ?
00:38 hzilla i think you can setup the validators better but if you want to shortcut the problem you can use severity="silent" to supress the errors
00:39 movvy ypu thats EXACTLY what i was looking for
00:40 movvy I will see what I can do better baout my validators though
00:40 hzilla what is better
00:41 hzilla is to use an or validator
00:41 hzilla and put all three devtype ones in that
00:41 hzilla then it passes if any of them are valid
00:42 hzilla that also works for your catch all error which is if none are set
00:43 movvy correct.. but after that its going to only provide, one output right, or can you set 3 sepearte provides?
00:43 movvy if you can would you mind showing me ana example, thats perfect!!
00:44 hzilla there are examples here http://www.mivesto.de/agavi/agavi-faq.html
00:44 hzilla yes u can nest validators
00:44 hzilla just wrap all of them in the or validator
00:45 movvy i see, i just wrap my 3 ina single or
00:45 movvy BAM
00:45 movvy let me try :)
00:47 hzilla but the nested valiadtors must be required = false
00:47 hzilla the or validator is required
00:50 movvy hmm.. looks like or doesn't work like we thought
00:50 movvy or a bit different
00:50 movvy http://www.pastebin.org/89816
00:51 movvy this produces no errors if its email
00:51 movvy 1 error if its sms
00:51 movvy and 2 errors if its twitter ;)
00:51 movvy so it looks like it opts out at the first validator that succeeds but does produce errors
00:52 hzilla your paste is incomplete
00:52 hzilla try again
00:53 hzilla u should ask your company to hire me
00:53 hzilla as a freelance
00:54 movvy its not out of the question, i need to get some of this stuff up an running to prove conept before i can open that budget then
00:54 hzilla anyway u r missing the or part in that last paste
00:54 movvy http://www.pastebin.org/89817
01:00 hzilla looks ok to me - whats prob?
01:00 movvy yeah so if its email
01:00 movvy everything is great
01:01 movvy if its sms, i get on erro displayed from the email validator
01:01 movvy and if its twitter i get an error from the email and the sms not validating
01:01 movvy i would still have to use severity silent
01:02 movvy which really, just make the or, just a tidbit more efficient
01:03 hzilla yeh figures. i'm sure there's a better way but i'm just doing something else. seeing as its a small matter u might as well use the severity thing
01:03 hzilla if i think of something better i'll let u know
01:04 movvy thats ok, i apprecaite the help, it sure made me learn alot about validation
01:04 movvy and fpf
01:04 movvy it was a huge help, i never would have gotten it myself
01:04 hzilla of course there is alwasy the option of using a validator callback
01:04 hzilla but thats more advanced
01:14 movvy so fucking close one last error
01:14 movvy for some reason the devtype isn't comeing all the way back to my template
01:15 movvy that tidy bit of code always returns email
01:15 movvy for the onload javascript
01:16 movvy ahhhh, i think thats why i validated it in the first place ;)
01:16 movvy i guess my equals would do that to
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01:27 movvy mf
01:27 movvy why the hell won't the devtype variable populate
01:30 hzilla i can't help u without more info
01:31 movvy in my template $devtype = isset($t['devtype']) ? $t['devtype'] : 'email';
01:31 movvy is ALWAYS coming out email
01:32 movvy so devtype isn't populating at all, I set the attribute like this in the action
01:32 movvy $this->setAttribute('devtype',$rd->getParameter('devtype'));
01:33 movvy this is in my view
01:33 movvy $devtype = $this->getAttribute('devtype');
01:36 movvy is there something i am missing?
01:36 movvy i thouht then it was recoverable in t[]
01:36 hzilla paste ur validator again
01:36 movvy does it use the original argument, or the validator name?
01:37 movvy http://pastebin.com/m2f1e8de5
01:37 movvy thats the whole thing, it almost works perfectly now :)
01:37 movvy this loading thing is all thats left I think, and a bit of work on the carriers :)
01:37 movvy so they can't use 'Select One' :)
01:41 movvy damn, so close!! :) i fixed a db issue, so its just passing that arguement through now, and this form works
01:41 movvy what a bitch
02:02 hzilla whats notdevice?
02:03 movvy not device is the device name
02:04 movvy i can tell you for sure that devtype dev type is populated in the action
02:04 movvy 110%
02:05 movvy http://pastebin.com/m95fe38c
02:05 movvy action
02:05 hzilla yeh just scrap the or validator wrapper
02:05 movvy if ($rd->getParameter('devtype') == "email")
02:05 movvy that works in my action though, so it must get populated
02:05 hzilla yeh just scrap the or validator wrapper
02:07 hzilla like i say its not the most elegant solution and there is probably a better way but its not a big deal if u say its just a proof of concept
02:07 movvy same thign still
02:07 hzilla what?
02:07 movvy still not populating in the template
02:07 movvy (so i can select the right panel, after form validation)
02:08 hzilla tat in the template
02:08 hzilla so use that in the template
02:08 movvy t['devtype'] is never populated to use
02:08 movvy thats the problem
02:08 movvy isset always retruns false
02:08 hzilla try rd->getParam
02:09 hzilla there's some bug in your code
02:09 movvy in the action you mean?
02:09 hzilla no in the template
02:09 hzilla use rd->getParameter('devtype') in your template
02:15 hzilla u said that its always coming out as 'emai'? so what is it? is it not being set or is it being set to email always?
02:15 movvy i tried that, i don't think you an use the $rd in the template, or at least it through an error
02:15 movvy it's not being set
02:15 hzilla u saud before it was setting as email
02:16 movvy $this->setAttribute('devtype',$rd->getParameter('devtype'));
02:16 hzilla wat about it?
02:16 movvy $devtype = isset($t['devtype']) ? $t['devtype'] : 'email';
02:16 hzilla looks fine
02:16 movvy thats the code im using, which should be is set period
02:16 movvy correct?
02:17 hzilla yeh so whats te value of devtype in your action?
02:19 hzilla ?
02:19 movvy i was going to put in logging to a file to check quick, and make sure
02:19 movvy but from the valdiation results it does indeed sometime set to sms and twitter if selected
02:19 hzilla just use var_dump($rd->getParameter('dev_type')); die(); in your action
02:20 hzilla devtype that is
02:21 hzilla i'm going in a minute so...
02:21 movvy opening now
02:23 hzilla well if you are saying that its sometimes set then clearly the problem is something else - no doubt you have not really designed the validators correctly. so i leave u too it
02:23 hzilla bye
02:23 movvy thanks man
02:23 movvy will let you know
02:23 hzilla no thanks
02:23 movvy OH
02:23 movvy dude the problem is so simple
02:23 hzilla i got plenty of ohter stuff to worry about
02:24 movvy devtype never gets set, because the validator doesn't make it all the way through
02:24 hzilla u said it does get set sometimes
02:24 movvy well only when i filled out the fields
02:24 movvy now that i think about it
02:24 movvy so if i flip to panel sms hit register
02:25 movvy the validator doesn't go through, and devtype isn't populated
02:25 hzilla so redesign your validators
02:25 movvy I think i need to se tthis in the error view
02:25 hzilla yeh of course
02:25 movvy well no thats the point, it isn't validating
02:26 movvy devtype is but other fields aren't
02:26 movvy what happens in that case, it returns the error view right?
02:26 hzilla of course you should set the devtype in the error view
02:26 hzilla thats where u need it
02:27 hzilla anyway take a break and think about it. its all logical and it works and there's no bugs so its your thought process that isn't clear
02:27 hzilla anyway i gotta go. good luck
02:28 movvy thanks again
02:28 movvy you were a massive help
02:28 movvy you have been fucked wihtout you peace
02:31 movvy yeah damn its null in the view
02:34 movvy doesn't seem that any part of the validation is passed back to the error view?
02:34 movvy certainly that data is somewhere for the FPF to work
02:36 movvy can see the finish line
02:40 movvy oh well, I guess I will have to wait till tomorrow to figure this one out
02:42 movvy tried adding the export command but :(
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06:08 movvy ello
06:27 movvy i forget everyone is euro :)
06:34 movvy man i feel like i went pretty deep on these validators
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08:06 movvy my gosh....i just read up and hzilla helped me FOREVER
08:07 movvy thats awesome!!!
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08:47 graste huomenta
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09:40 Jarda #1437822">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1437771/how-can-i-get-the-clients-ip-address-​in-a-php-webservice/1437822#1437822
09:40 Jarda I'd like to reply to that, but I don't know how
09:41 Jarda it's complete bullshit, agavi doesn't clear $_SERVER
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09:45 v-dogg Jarda: not all of it but it does clear HTTP_* vars
09:46 Jarda Please note, that you can access $_SERVER (like $_SERVER['SERVER_NAME']) and $_ENV directly, as it is mostly not user provided data (and not really standardized as well). ?
09:46 Jarda http://www.mivesto.de/agavi/agavi-faq.html#general_11
09:46 Jarda yeah, HTTP_ is cleared
09:46 Jarda you win :/
09:47 v-dogg I always do
09:56 sth Morning
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10:50 macen hi Xylakant
10:50 Xylakant hi
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11:11 digitarald ladies ...
11:11 digitarald YQL is cool
11:12 digitarald poll: need a CMF ... did anybody try Drupal?
11:12 sth Yes
11:12 sth I hated it
11:12 digitarald my eyes are bleeding that the Drupal 7 based on PHP5 is still alpha and the others are compatible with 4
11:13 digitarald the drupal-goes-php5 is there since 2007. WTF happened since than?
11:13 sth Death.
11:13 digitarald any recommendations for alternatives?
11:13 sth Nope
11:14 digitarald mh ... eZ Publish
11:14 digitarald maybe in the mix with agavi
11:15 digitarald found another player ... TangoCMS
11:15 digitarald why are CMF solutions so difficult to find ... maybe the gazillions of different requirements
11:18 Xylakant hmmm, roll your own :)
11:18 digitarald So, I'm happy about any suggestion ... that does not involve a ton of time ;)
11:18 Xylakant you might want to poke fnordfish, he's been working on something lately
11:18 digitarald I rather focus on real work than showing text and images in a nice layout
11:18 Xylakant I have no clue how far advanced they are though
11:19 digitarald problem, I have requirements too ... like i18n and team workflow :( which makes it difficult
11:19 Xylakant :/
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14:26 hzilla hello chaps.
14:27 hzilla i upgraded to agavi 102 yesterday but looks like the environment-create option is not in the build script anymore?
14:31 Jarda what did environment-create do?
14:31 Jarda (I mean, are you maybe searching for public-create
14:31 sth create environments?
14:32 sth I can't say I remember it
14:33 hzilla it just set the environments in the templates
14:33 hzilla and copied them to root etc
14:33 Jarda hmm, public create asks what environment to bootstrap and places index.php and .htaccess to pub/
14:33 hzilla yeh but it won't work when u already have a project in there i think
14:33 hzilla project-create?
14:34 Jarda are you sure?
14:34 Jarda no, I'm not talking about project-create
14:34 hzilla ah ok public-create
14:34 hzilla let me try it
14:36 sth hzilla: There wasn't one in 1.0.0 either
14:36 hzilla really? i;ve been using environment -create for ages
14:36 hzilla this one seems to run but doesn't genereate the files
14:37 sth There wasn't one in 0.11.X either
14:38 hzilla gosh it must have been patched by Xylakant then?
14:38 sth Sure it wasn't a custom one someone added in?
14:38 Xylakant hzilla: it's in your project's build file
14:39 Xylakant there are some troubles with phing 2.3.x and agavi 1.0.2
14:39 Xylakant due to a fix that was supposed to bring phing 2.4 compat
14:39 hzilla [agavi.import] Could not read /private/var/www/samurai_fm/build.xml: Error reading project file [wrapped: property (unknown) doesn't support the 'userproperty' attribute.] (skipping)
14:39 hzilla [agavi.import] Could not read /private/var/www/samurai_fm/build.xml: Error reading project file [wrapped: property (unknown) doesn't support the 'userproperty' attribute.] (skipping)
14:39 Xylakant sad enough, the fix broke 2.3 and didn't provide 2.4 compat
14:39 hzilla something to do with that?
14:40 Xylakant yes, that's the issue
14:41 Xylakant which phing version do you have installed?
14:41 hzilla 2.4
14:41 hzilla it didn't seem to work with 2.3.3
14:41 hzilla when i upgraded
14:41 hzilla so i upgraded phing also
14:46 Xylakant right
14:46 Xylakant there's a pretty simple fix for that
14:46 Xylakant can you open the agavi build file, it should be located in build/build.xml in the agavi source
14:47 Xylakant right down to the bottom is a <agavi.import> call
14:47 Xylakant replace that with just <import>
14:47 Xylakant phing 2.4 has a quite capable import task
14:47 Xylakant that should do the job
14:47 hzilla alrighty
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14:49 MikeSeth Xylakant: testing phenomenon
14:50 MikeSeth if I don't call $this->getContext() before new Doctrine_Query in a test then Doctrine_Query class isnt autoload
14:50 MikeSeth is it because of test isolation and me improperly initializing something?
14:51 hzilla Xylakant: seems to work. thanks
14:52 hzilla MikeSeth: conservative model loading set on?
14:52 Xylakant MikeSeth: maybe the database manager does not get initialized
14:52 Xylakant and I think we initialize the doctrine autoloading only when needed
14:52 MikeSeth Xylakant: is it initialized lazily?
14:53 MikeSeth hzilla: hmmm... probably, but conservative model loading applies to models
14:53 MikeSeth here it's a core class of Doctrine, not a model
14:53 Xylakant the database manager? I'm almost certain but I'd have to take a peek at the source
14:54 Xylakant even though it's a doctrine core class it's not handled by agavis autoloader
14:54 MikeSeth Xylakant: its handled by Doctrine's own autoloader, which is initialized in the Doctrine adapter, which is initialized by the database manager
14:54 MikeSeth so is the correct procedure to initalize it every time in tearUp()?
14:55 Xylakant i'd say so
14:55 MikeSeth I see
14:55 Xylakant I'd really have to look at the code when we init the doctrine autoloader
14:55 Xylakant that's not really the code I usually dig around in :)
14:55 MikeSeth its inited with the adapter initialization
14:56 MikeSeth specifically in initialie()
14:56 MikeSeth initialize()
14:56 MikeSeth so yeah thats prolly it
14:56 MikeSeth non-Agavi autoloading gets reset during test isolation
14:57 Xylakant agavi autoloading also gets reset :)
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14:59 MikeSeth but then re-reset :P
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15:03 Yossi_ HUomenta
15:04 Yossi_ can I get an execution container from context? to do stuff like getAttribute?
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15:24 Xylakant Yossi_: what would you do witn an execution container?
15:24 Yossi_ Xkylakant: I didn't I was trying to hack due to my lack of knowledge, but MikeSetch came through
15:25 Xylakant good
15:25 Xylakant take an AgaviAttributeHolder :)
15:30 Yossi_ haha
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15:34 Yossi_ now going back to dig at how I can form $tm->_c output :(
15:34 Yossi_ *format
15:35 Xylakant you didn't post to the mailing list
15:35 Xylakant why?
15:37 Yossi_ ah... II kind of figured it would be faster and more educational to read the code, well, the faster part was a wrong assumption - I never got to it
15:40 Yossi_ sent
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15:57 impl Xylakant: I'm reasonably certain that if you replace <agavi.import> with <import> it'll break support for custom project build.xml's
15:58 impl unless they fixed that in 2.4 somehow
15:58 Xylakant impl: they did
15:58 impl ah, well, excellent
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16:09 Xylakant but since you're online I might ask you a few phing questions
16:10 Xylakant basically: is there any property set with the phing version
16:10 Xylakant so i can decide which task to call depending on which phing version is usedss
16:10 Xylakant ?
16:17 movvy heya guys
16:18 movvy so if validation fails... lets say EVERY field doesn't validate... and it reutnrs the error view
16:18 movvy is the someway to still use the value that was given to the validator in the error view
16:18 movvy $rd->getParameter('foo')
16:19 movvy returns NULL for me right now
16:23 hzilla hey movvy the FAQ has some info about how to get an error report from the validation manager
16:24 movvy hzilla, ist the only thing left, everything else is working!
16:25 movvy $report = $this->getContainer()->getValidatorManager()->getReport();
16:25 movvy $devtypevalue = $report->?
16:26 hzilla not sure - u have to have a look at the api docs
16:27 hzilla i've never needed the unvalidated data before
16:27 movvy well it is validated ofr that single value is
16:27 movvy just the validator as a whole doesn't run
16:28 movvy it just doesnt seem to export any values unless EVERYTHING validates
16:28 hzilla well then your validators are setup wrong
16:29 movvy why.. does ANY field that validates pass out the value?
16:29 hzilla yeh should do
16:30 movvy http://pastebin.com/m3b7ae086
16:30 movvy its the very first validator ...however i use that argument in other vlaidators
16:30 movvy is that why its wiping out the value?
16:31 movvy the first validator def passes when this runs
16:32 hzilla possibly your or validator is overwriting the devtype value.
16:32 movvy I can delete it and see, what should I do, add export to the or?
16:32 movvy well to the validators within or
16:32 hzilla you are doing 4 checks on the same value so of course you are going to have some confusion
16:33 movvy im removing the or, just to see if the value is there!
16:35 movvy nope still NULL
16:37 hzilla yes its null because all the validators run and the last one doesn't pass so its null
16:37 hzilla even if it passed before
16:40 movvy yeah so no matter what im going to have to use the error report, because this is a scenario when the validators are supposed to fail
16:40 movvy but i still need the devtype to select the panel
16:40 movvy ill look into the reporting API
16:40 movvy let hope i can actually do it :)
16:41 Yossi_ if I have a model that I want initialized for all actions (just after routing handling is done for instance) and exposed to the template, how do I go about?
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16:44 hzilla Yossi_: load in base action?
16:45 Yossi_ hzilla: to do that I need to write an 'execute' method in base action?
16:45 v-dogg or extend renderer if you want to have it $likethis instead of $t['likethis']
16:45 v-dogg in the template
16:46 v-dogg if it's just for the templates baseview::setupHtml might be the place for it
16:53 movvy damn none of this example shows how to get the value
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16:53 movvy i wonder where this getReport() lies in the documentation
16:54 hzilla Yossi: yeh as v-dogg says if its just for templates u could setupHtml in your project baseview. or in your action u could write an execute or another method but then you would have to call that from your action. Perhaps if u need it in an action without changing code u can overwrite the an initialize method?
16:55 hzilla although not sure if there is an initialize method for actions
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16:56 hzilla time for the gym. ciao
16:57 movvy http://www.agavi.org/apidocs/
16:57 movvy agavivalidationmanager... im not seeing a good API to retrieve a failed validators value
16:58 movvy maybe getFailedArguments
16:59 Yossi_ v-dogg: when you say extend renderer - you mean something that will enable me to assign it in the output_types? (I am using Dwoo btw)
17:01 movvy Call to undefined method AgaviExecutionContainer::getValidatorManager() in /REDUNDANT-STORAGE/webdev/dev/sites/cuismailer.touchbasedemo.com/root/OperationP​ortal/app/modules/NotificationSystem/views/AddNotificationDeviceErrorView.class.p​hp on line 10
17:02 Xylakant movvy: it's getValidationManager not getValidatorManager
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17:03 movvy yup found it in the api... Xylakant do you know if im trying to use the right API
17:03 movvy $devtype = $report->getFailedArguments('devtype'); returns array(0)
17:04 movvy im trying to get the value of an argument from a failed validator
17:04 movvy the argument is devtype
17:04 movvy in my error view
17:04 Xylakant what are you trying to do :)
17:04 movvy ^^
17:05 movvy so basically my validato fails which it should... but i still need a value from it to appropriatly set some javacscript in my error template
17:05 movvy so i need to be able to get argument values in my error view
17:05 movvy does that make sense?
17:06 movvy 1 cookie to the first person to help
17:06 movvy i'll toss in a little marijuana to if that will help solve it :)
17:06 Xylakant you can't access arguments from failed validators
17:07 movvy sigh, so this is impossible
17:07 Xylakant well, not their values at least
17:07 Xylakant nothing is impossible
17:07 movvy i HAVE to have that value...
17:07 Xylakant what is the javascript supposed to do?
17:07 movvy select a panel for a form
17:07 Xylakant and why does it need the value of the failed validator for that
17:07 Xylakant can you show code or the form?
17:08 movvy http://www.touchbasedemo.com/notification/addnotdevice
17:08 movvy so just go click twitter radio button
17:08 movvy then when its all blank hit add device
17:08 movvy its going to revert to the email panal when it fails
17:08 movvy i need to pass the devtpye.. which is whether you selected email / mobile or twitter to the error view
17:09 movvy so i can set my onload javascript function value
17:09 movvy so after a failed validation it selects the right panel in the form
17:09 movvy me and hzilla spent like 4 hours yesterday getting all that to work just right with the FPF
17:09 Xylakant well no, you don't need to
17:10 Xylakant if the validation for that argument failed then the user selected a button that does not exist
17:10 movvy it doesn't fail
17:10 movvy it passes for that argument so far as i can see
17:10 movvy but $rd->getParamter('devtype')
17:10 Xylakant otherwise the argument is available in $rd
17:10 movvy is always NULL in my error view
17:10 movvy tried that
17:10 Xylakant show me the validation xml
17:11 movvy http://pastebin.com/m5967af97
17:11 movvy its the very first validator
17:11 movvy i also tried removing the or validator just to se if somehow it was getting overwritten, but that doesnt work either
17:13 Xylakant you need to work on your coding standard
17:13 Xylakant take either tabs or spaces for validation, not both
17:13 Xylakant though I'd recommend tabs
17:14 movvy can do
17:14 movvy all my php is tabbed
17:15 movvy but noted
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17:17 movvy see anything that stands out?
17:18 Xylakant multiple things
17:19 Xylakant apart from the fact that asking for twitter password is a bit hmm hmm, you should use oauth for twitter connectivity
17:19 Xylakant but well, that's unrelated
17:19 movvy Xylikant, i haven't gotten that far on twitter ;)
17:21 sth I'm going to find all the churches in the area of the office and break the rope that controls the bell.
17:21 Xylakant you should also fix your validation for the phone number
17:21 Xylakant phone numbers are not numbers but strings
17:21 movvy ok i cna fix that!
17:22 movvy any idea why my devtype isn't avaialble in my error view?
17:22 Xylakant and a minimum of "10" on a number validator means 10 and not 10 digits
17:22 movvy lol ok
17:22 movvy ixed on the phone
17:22 Xylakant don't use stringvalidators for everything
17:22 Xylakant for example you have a known set of carriers
17:23 Xylakant use an inarray validator
17:23 movvy read about that yesterday, will look at it
17:23 Xylakant if you validate it as a string any string would be valid, even if it's not a valid carrier
17:23 movvy yeah i was going to address this today... for example select one
17:23 movvy is not a valid carrier and would still be taken
17:23 movvy so it was on the list :)
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17:24 movvy though, if i don't get devtype in the error view im going to have to completely redo all this shit
17:24 movvy and split it into 3 forms with no js
17:24 movvy which sucks
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17:26 Xylakant try this http://pastebin.com/m1b32644d
17:27 Xylakant all parameters that validated should be in $rd in the error view
17:27 movvy will test, thanks xylakant, its very nice to help
17:29 movvy Line 1: Start tag expected, '<' not found
17:29 movvy strange
17:29 Xylakant might have some typos
17:30 movvy i see it there
17:30 Xylakant hmm, that would be weird
17:30 movvy oh fuck
17:30 movvy im stupid
17:30 Xylakant did you copy some char?
17:30 movvy lol yeah
17:30 movvy wrong window in paste bin
17:30 movvy it has all the numbers
17:31 Xylakant did I mention that I have carneval?
17:32 saracen You should get that seen to
17:32 Xylakant why that?
17:32 Xylakant because people bragging about how many "cheap drunken women" they'll fuck tonight are cool?
17:32 Xylakant well, I don't want to be cool then I guess
17:32 movvy unknown validator found: in_array
17:33 Xylakant make that inarray
17:34 movvy still null Xylakant
17:34 Xylakant hmm, right, I'll have a look
17:34 Xylakant might take a second
17:35 movvy no worries man ill test anything you want its driving me fucking insane
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17:36 movvy ill give you part of the cookie as an upfront payment
17:36 Xylakant you'll have to post that to colonge
17:36 movvy ahh your in cologne germany?
17:36 Xylakant and all civil services are out of service atm
17:36 movvy i just did a client site there
17:36 Xylakant including mail and everything else
17:36 movvy CHEP is the company name.... they do Pallets
17:36 movvy like for shipping
17:37 Xylakant never heard of that
17:37 movvy pallets are the big wood things that they ship shit on in semi's
17:37 Xylakant yeah, i meant the company
17:38 movvy ahh gotcha
17:38 movvy you think its a bug that its not avaialble in the error view?
17:40 Xylakant well, i just tested with a simple testcase and it is for me
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17:41 movvy :(
17:41 movvy erorr view
17:41 movvy http://pastebin.com/m188b0f22
17:42 Xylakant yeah
17:42 Xylakant that's simple
17:42 Xylakant you have a typo in the var_dump
17:43 Xylakant dev_type, your parameter name is devtype
17:44 movvy man i will feel dumb
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17:46 Xylakant happens to all of us
17:46 movvy nope
17:46 movvy still null
17:46 movvy i figured it was, i didn't add that vardump till i was alreayd sure it was null
17:47 Xylakant past again
17:47 movvy http://pastebin.com/m5245abcc
17:47 Xylakant tr y
17:47 Xylakant y
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17:47 Xylakant try dumping the full $rd
17:48 Xylakant but I guess I know what your problem is
17:48 movvy object(AgaviWebRequestDataHolder)#227 (6) { ["files:protected"]=> array(0) { } ["cookies:protected"]=> array(0) { } ["headers:protected"]=> array(0) { } ["uploadedFileClass:protected"]=> string(17) "AgaviUploadedFile" ["sourceNames:private"]=> array(4) { ["cookies"]=> string(6) "cookie" ["files"]=> string(4) "file" ["headers"]=> string(6) "header" ["parameters"]=> string(9) "parameter" } ["parameters:protected"]=> array(0) { } }
17:48 Xylakant yeah
17:49 Xylakant right
17:49 Xylakant you need to know a little about how "success" is determined in validation
17:49 Xylakant you have four validators for the argument 'devtype'
17:49 Xylakant the first one succeeds
17:49 Xylakant of the other three, two fail
17:50 movvy correct
17:50 Xylakant any validator can mark a field as succeeded
17:50 Xylakant but once it's marked as failed it can never be marked as succeeded again
17:50 movvy ok so how do i keep all this logic and make it work
17:50 Xylakant so in the end the field is marked as failed
17:50 Xylakant the easiest way is to export the value from the first validator to a new name
17:51 movvy im removing those 3 just for a test
17:51 Xylakant and use that either for the dependency tests or for your logic
17:51 movvy hmm where does the export go in your inarray example
17:51 movvy there is multiple ae:parameters in it
17:52 movvy so when i export something, does it make it an 'argument?
17:53 Xylakant something like this
17:53 Xylakant http://pastebin.com/m3573da2a
17:53 Xylakant yes, exported values show up in the request data holder
17:53 Xylakant they should work as an argument for subsequent validators
17:54 Xylakant if it doesn't you'll have to work the other way round - export the value, use the original argument for the dependency tests and the exported value in your code
17:55 movvy yeah it apsses the value now, but broke the other validator's
17:55 movvy i will try the other way :)
17:55 Xylakant right
17:55 movvy thanks for your help xylakan
17:57 movvy fucking piece of shit
17:57 movvy the other way doesnt work either, the export value is null now in my error view
17:58 Xylakant show validation and error view
17:59 movvy http://pastebin.com/m4318daca
17:59 movvy error view is at the bottom
17:59 Xylakant does it work when you remove the three validators?
17:59 movvy bb in a few CEO is ringing
17:59 movvy yup
18:00 movvy oh with the exported value?
18:01 Xylakant well, I meant without
18:02 Xylakant btw: why are you limiting emails to 255 chars?
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18:14 movvy Xylakant, yeah as long as the other arguments aren't the same as devtpye in the other 3 validators it all works
18:14 movvy i tested it
18:14 movvy it sounds like maybe i actually need to handle this on the form side with a ghosting of the devtype
18:15 movvy so sending in 2 arguments with the same info
18:15 movvy unless you think it can truly be tackled in the validator
18:15 Xylakant and it does not work with the export?
18:15 Xylakant hmm, I'd have to dig around for another solution
18:15 Xylakant I'm a bit out of ideas
18:16 movvy i tried exporting and using devtype in the other 3, and using exported value
18:16 Xylakant you could have three forms that all send a hidden value and still use the same action
18:16 movvy Xylakant, thats what im going to do
18:16 movvy send ahidden input with the same value as devtype
18:16 movvy and just use that
18:16 Xylakant that would keep the interface and pretty much all logic
18:16 Xylakant yes
18:16 movvy well... at least i figured out the rpoblem
18:16 movvy which was the main hurdle
18:17 movvy cheers and thanks for that
18:17 movvy this is hard to focus on hungover :)
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18:38 Yossi_ Anyone knows how do I set currency to a locale instance? I don't want to change the current locale, I just want to have $tm->_c() generate a number for a different currency then the one set.
18:42 Xylakant can't you use AgaviTranslationManager::getLocale('@currency=foo');
18:43 Xylakant it returns a new locale instance
18:43 Xylakant and certainly doesn't chance the current locale
18:54 Yossi_ Xylakant: Gracias
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19:01 Yossi_ Fatal error: Call to undefined method NumbersModel::getLocaleIdentifier() in /home/yossi/dev/agavi/translation/AgaviTranslationManager.class.php on line 695
19:04 matbtt_ what?
19:05 Yossi_ what is the effect of doing somthing like AgaviTranslationManager::getLocale("en"); in my model...
19:05 Yossi_ *that
19:08 matbtt_ ...getLocale returns an AgaviLocale instance.
19:08 Yossi_ its my stupidity... when calling from a model I should do something like $tm = $this->context->getTranslationManager(); $tm->getLocale(...)
19:09 matbtt_ ...yes. Method is not static
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20:32 hzilla say, if u have a form which doesn't validate and returns an error view, do any child slots also return the error view by default?
20:42 v-dogg no
20:50 hzilla thanks
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00:21 movvy hzilla
00:21 movvy not sure if you read but think i got things sorted out
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00:50 hzilla that's good
00:52 movvy so basically the prob... devtype was in multiple validator's
00:53 movvy and if anyone fails at all, then the value can;t be retrieved
00:53 movvy through the report manager same thing, if it failed can't get the value
00:53 movvy so im adding a second hidden field
00:56 hzilla fine
01:06 movvy yup i just did it, works like a champ
01:06 movvy man that took FOREVER
01:27 hzilla dude that was nothing. i've been developing my site for over a year
01:41 movvy what does your site do/
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03:50 movvy so i see layou in the output types
03:50 movvy how do I switch these in the view? of the one I want to use?
03:58 movvy i see this in some of impl's code in the view
03:58 movvy $this->loadStandardHtmlLayout();
03:59 movvy i currently use this->setupHtml This is what currently uses the master template
04:16 saracen impl is weird.
04:17 movvy heh
04:17 movvy can you tell me how to switch for example i can see in the default install of agavi there is already a standard and a simple
04:17 movvy how can i pick and chose
04:18 saracen $this->setupHtml($rd, 'simple')
04:18 movvy thats awesome, you just made my life so much more simple :)
04:19 movvy btw where in the documenation might i find...setupHtml
04:19 movvy I was trying to find it because i figured it was something liek that
04:19 saracen If you use an IDE, you should just right click the method and go to it's defintion :P
04:19 saracen That will show you, that in it's parent class
04:20 saracen the method accepts $layoutName
04:20 movvy what ide should i use?
04:20 movvy i use notepad+ right now
04:20 movvy heh
04:21 saracen I use Komodo. But I'm probably the only person in the channel that does. It's because I'm too amateur to figure our emacs or eclipse with it's PHP stuffz
04:21 movvy gotcha i alreayd use eclipse for java
04:21 movvy i should check it out
04:22 movvy oh ir emember why i got pissed
04:23 movvy it like wants to move my project i feel like
04:23 movvy it doesn't keep active track of my directory
04:23 movvy when i pull thing from a repo, its not like auto populating them in my ide
04:24 saracen God. It'd 4:30am, I've been up since 6am after having 3 hours sleep last night and I've had a few beers
04:24 saracen I should probably go to sleep
04:24 movvy lol
04:24 saracen So, yeah. nn!
04:24 movvy lata
04:24 saracen 04:19:12 <xDDD> well they do reply and tell me the forwarded it to the dev team, but sometimes it just doesn't get fixed even after a few months
04:25 saracen 04:19:23 <xDDD> they*
04:25 saracen opps
04:25 saracen 04:20:22 <xDDD> But recently it looks like their server side checking has gotten a lot better
04:25 saracen 04:21:17 <xDDD> so that's good already, maybe l3j had a part in that hehe
04:25 saracen 04:22:11 <xDDD> does he work on the networking now?
04:25 saracen putty and fail right click copy
04:25 saracen Thats compleely unlrated to the world, ignorez
04:31 movvy damn, this new template stuff, is going to make dev so much easier
04:31 movvy BAM
04:34 Jarda smc reset <3
04:34 Jarda now my battery is working again
04:55 movvy nice, this is great ;)
05:06 movvy hmm
05:06 movvy this doesn't seem to be selecting the template :>
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05:52 mob_yo hello friends
05:52 mob_yo who's still awake?
05:52 movvy me
05:52 mob_yo who's just waking up?
05:53 mob_yo hey movvy
05:53 mob_yo MugeSo? Mikeseth? v-dogg?
05:53 mob_yo I've learned a little bit from each of you over the past year
05:54 mob_yo yea the channel must be dead right now
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07:03 MugeSo mob_yo have to be more patient :(
07:03 MugeSo btw, Huomenta
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07:31 Jarda huomenta
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08:00 movvy night all... another hugely productive day
08:00 movvy later all and as always thanks for all the help provided today
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09:42 _cheerios huomenta
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10:10 graste huomenta
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10:13 fnordfish huomenta, moin moin, tach och, god'day, hi
10:14 graste ^^
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10:41 xalva Wich is the best opensource ide to debug php (agavi) in a ubuntu box?
10:49 _cheerios started vim last week, then vacation, now figuring out what the hell all those shortcuts were...
10:50 _cheerios xalva, i've used xdebug with eclipde&netbeans, works fine (when configured)
10:50 v-dogg hehe
10:50 v-dogg _cheerios: you could write a short how-to on that
10:51 v-dogg I tried xdebug once with eclipse but wasn't able to get it to work nicely with me and/or agavi
10:55 xalva _cheerios: thanks I going to try it!
10:55 xalva v-dogg: what're you using then?
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10:58 v-dogg xalva: var_dump, agavi logging and ADT
10:58 v-dogg (ADT with firephp+firebug)
11:06 xalva v-dogg: interesting I am going to study this other way to, thank you
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11:26 Jarda debugging with breakpoints would be very nice to have (haven't tried to integrate those to netbeans/eclipse)
11:27 Jarda maybe I should try zend studio..
11:46 xalva but zend studio is not opensource
11:46 Jarda true
11:49 sth Who really cares if it's open source or not?
11:49 sth IT's about using the best tool for the job
11:49 Jarda not me atleast
11:56 horros Open source = communism!
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12:34 simoncpu horros: nope
12:34 simoncpu GNU = communism
12:34 simoncpu BSD = free love
13:17 graste who said that communism is bad? ^^
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14:06 hzilla http://www.cnngo.com/tokyo/none/worlds-greatest-city-50-reasons-why-tokyo-no-1-9​03662
14:06 hzilla who wants to come to a party in Tokyo at the end of May?
14:08 sth Are you buying the plane tickets? :P
14:09 hzilla hey i'm sure u can afford it on your healthy salary
14:09 hzilla or if not there's always visa
14:09 hzilla priceless.
14:20 macen anybody using ImageMagick here?
14:20 macen i've some files that aren't converting, not sure if it's the files or my setup, would appreciate it if someone could test them with their setup?
14:22 Xylakant macen: do the file open fine in any other image processing app?
14:22 Xylakant if yes, they're probably fine
14:23 macen Xylakant: yes, they do, but not sure if it's my setup or the way the files are encoded
14:23 macen any PDF generated by Illustrator/InDesign doesn't convert, but if it's saved and converted in Acrobat, they work ok
14:24 macen took time to get it working at all as i compiled from source for the most up-to-date versions, now it only converts acrobat generated pdf's
14:24 macen files are here if you can help: http://public.me.com/craigfairhurst
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14:32 _cheerios hzilla, what party when?
14:32 hzilla _cheerios: my site relaunch party at the end of May at one of the world's best clubs
14:36 _cheerios 1150e round-trip flights o_O (well, expected it)
14:36 hzilla _cheerios: so much? that seems too much
14:37 hzilla should be bale to get something for half that
14:37 _cheerios via ebookers
14:38 _cheerios k, bad dates, cheaper on some other dates (~850)
14:39 hzilla yeh that sounds more reasonable. and i expect that the prices fluctuate. it would end up being expensive but its a great place and i'm a good host
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14:45 _cheerios wow, flights between tokyo to china/australia are as expensive (if not more) as coming all the way from Finland
14:46 hzilla finnair is usually reasonable
14:46 hzilla la is cheap
15:01 _cheerios yup, finnair+japan airlines had best offers (only ones too :p)
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15:07 digitarald who is behind dracoblue.net?
15:19 fnordfish1 gui from xoz ;)
15:20 macen Xylakant: was a missing "-colorspace rbg" parameter
15:20 macen thanks for reply :)
15:20 fnordfish1 digitarald: http://dracoblue.net/about/#impressum gives you the whole info
15:20 digitarald but not his irc nick
15:21 digitarald but I think I remember
15:21 fnordfish1 go, mail him
15:21 fnordfish1 don't think so
15:21 fnordfish1 anyways - gotta go
15:21 fnordfish1 cu
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23:47 movvy sigh
23:47 movvy so close
23:47 movvy something is messed up in my fpf:x
23:49 movvy how do i dump the html that it is seeing, so i can see where the error is
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00:02 movvy ahh found it :)
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10:27 cheerios_ jee
11:02 ttj !jee
11:02 graste jee?
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12:02 cheerios_ after catching a cold, seems stuffy nose has setup an ear infection (left ear half-blocked). MEH.
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17:36 movvy hello
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18:57 movvy how is everyone today?
18:58 movvy hellooooo how is everyone today?
18:59 matbtt_ fine :)
19:00 movvy good good, same here
19:00 movvy just continueing to tie up loose ends on this project
19:01 Jarda I have the problem, that I have a few projects almost done (just some little tweaking needed) and I just start to hack new things..
19:02 Jarda there's a couple that I would be able to bill after a few hours of work
19:02 Jarda just haven't got the motivation to finish them :)
19:03 matbtt_ ...I'm just switching my project to Doctrine 2... hope it will be finished soon...
19:04 Jarda I should port one project to propel 1.5 (just for the kicks..), but the little terror seems to be taking all my time
19:04 Jarda and when he goes to sleep I have no energy left :)
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23:24 MikeSeth le derp
23:26 cheerios_ mmm... watched a good finnish movie, "kolme viisasta miest?"
23:26 cheerios_ good drama http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1270769/
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08:54 Jarda I should make a agavirouting for javascript
08:54 Jarda this uses so heavily javascript, that I have now hard coded my url
08:54 Jarda s
08:55 Jarda but it wouldn't be that hard to make a routing-action that takes the route name as parmeter and returns the route by json
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10:07 MikeSeth jaaa
10:08 MikeSeth Jarda: yeah you could do that
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11:45 MikeSeth mmmm
11:45 MikeSeth phpunit can't test protected/private methods can it?
11:46 graste it can
11:46 graste but why would you
11:47 graste http://sebastian-bergmann.de/archives/881-Testing-Your-Privates.html
11:59 MikeSeth some shit i didn't write :<
12:00 graste :-)
12:02 graste like I said a few weeks after being asked about my project: since the site is live I'm now working with legacy code ^^
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15:00 MikeSeth man tdd for the win
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20:18 cheerios_ iltaa
20:23 v-dogg what the hell is Dillo? yes, a browser, but why haven't I heard of it everrr
20:24 v-dogg according to a test I ran with browsershots.org it doesn't do a very good job rendering css styles
20:26 cheerios_ anyone played with js lately? what's the proper way to do program classes to have some standalone objects with their methods+vars up?
20:36 Jarda browsershots is slow as hell
20:37 v-dogg sure is
20:41 cheerios_ hmm, cheated by using jquery.extend({}, my_object)
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21:02 ttj cheerios_: When is heimoi going to go live? ;)
21:03 cheerios_ when my gf gives me more freetime
21:03 cheerios_ working on it right now atleast :)
21:08 ttj I just started preliminary work on my thesis. Maybe I'll finally graudate this year. :P
21:09 cheerios_ \o/
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21:36 graste :>
21:36 graste been there, done that
21:37 graste good luck :-)
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22:26 movvy what is heimoi
22:30 cheerios_ movvy, (a kind of) location-based social network
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23:23 Reza__ Hi every body
23:25 Reza__ i have been working with symfony for 2 years . It is wonderful . I found your project (agavi) witch is extended from Mojavi . I test it and I wrote an App
23:25 Reza__ But Why agavi
23:25 Reza__ ??
23:26 cheerios_ sea of choices. this is one of 'em.
23:26 Reza__ I would like to know about special features
23:27 Reza__ I found agavi alittle bit different
23:27 Reza__ with symfony
23:27 Reza__ Is it another wheel ?
23:29 cheerios_ basically what is says on the web page. since you've done an app already you can decide what to go with based on your requirements.
23:30 Reza__ I suggest you , complete your manual , it is really important for useres . it makes your project , grow faster and find more developer
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05:45 v-dogg wow, a manual?! how did we not think of that...
05:46 v-dogg and also
05:46 v-dogg huomenta
05:50 movvy hello
05:51 movvy that hilarious, I actually think agavi's tutorial is complately awesome
05:52 movvy did it teach me everything? no... did I feel empowered chapter by chapter.. yes!!
05:52 movvy it is really nice...
06:38 MugeSo How can i set default layer class?
06:40 MugeSo now I've reached it's in AgaviOutputTypeConfigHandler class's parameter, but how to set it...
06:45 MugeSo in config_handlers.xml ?
06:47 MugeSo it's confusing :(
06:48 MugeSo it should in output_types.xml or factories.xml!
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08:05 Jarda can I disable fpf per action/view
08:05 Jarda I'm getting parse-exception from fpf on production (works in dev)
08:12 digitarald heya
08:15 Jarda ok, wtf. $ro->gen(null); is generating urls in production with "&". In development with &amp;
08:16 Jarda some php-stupidness?
08:17 digitarald checking, I remember a quirk
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08:42 MugeSo Jarda: $this->getContext()->getRequest()->setAttribute('populate', false, 'org.agavi.filter.FormPopulationFilter'); disables FPF
08:45 Jarda MugeSo: yeah, I figured that out
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08:46 Jarda but the actua problem is routing generating urls with unescaped &-character
08:50 MugeSo Jarda: arg_separator.output and 'separator' eleement in 3rd parameter for gen method affects url query separator.
08:50 MugeSo arg_separator.output is php.ini setting.
08:50 Jarda MugeSo: arg_separator.output is "&" in both development and production
08:51 Jarda doesn't explain why the urls generate differently in dev and prod
08:51 MugeSo how about arg_separator.input ?
08:52 MugeSo and did you try $ro->gen(nulll, array(), array('separator'=>'&amp;')); ?
08:55 MugeSo ok, I've read the code now, arg_separator.input is
08:57 Jarda yeah, arg_separator.input is ';&' which breaks
08:57 Jarda but it is a valid value for the setting in php.ini
08:57 Jarda so this might be a bug in agavi I guess
08:58 Jarda I have to check if our hosting provider gives access to php.ini
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09:01 graste huomenta
09:02 Jarda that's a setting that can't be changeg runtime
09:04 MugeSo yeah, it's PHP_INI_SYSTEM|PHP_INI_PERDIR.
09:04 graste huomenta
09:04 graste oosp
09:04 MugeSo huomenta :)
09:04 graste slaps graste around with a time displacement
09:05 Jarda ok, php_value doesn't work on our hosting
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09:08 MikeSeth huomenta
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09:32 MikeSeth RuntimeException: PDOException: You cannot serialize or unserialize PDOStatement instances
09:32 MikeSeth wtf is phpunit trying to do ><
09:33 Jarda Xylakant: ping
09:34 Xylakant MikeSeth: probably your setup code creates a pdo instance
09:36 Jarda Xylakant: if in php.ini arg_separator.input is ';&', $ro->gen(null) creates urls with "&" as separator, is this expected?
09:36 MikeSeth uhmmm it doesn't
09:36 MikeSeth at least not directly
09:36 MikeSeth Some sort of Doctrine chemsitry
09:36 Xylakant Jarda: certainly
09:36 Jarda any way to workaround?
09:36 MikeSeth Xylakant: wait, setup code = ?
09:36 Xylakant we use that config setting
09:36 Xylakant fix the config setting?
09:37 Jarda Xylakant: I don't have access to php.ini
09:37 Xylakant but it should not be arg_separator.input iirc but the other one
09:37 Xylakant use ini_set()?
09:37 Jarda Xylakant: not possible to change with ini_set
09:37 Xylakant otherwise i think you can pass that as an option in factories.xml
09:37 Xylakant why would that not be changeable with ini_set?
09:38 Jarda 11:04:12 < MugeSo> yeah, it's PHP_INI_SYSTEM|PHP_INI_PERDIR.
09:38 Xylakant arg_separator.output
09:38 Jarda nope, I'm talking about .input
09:39 Xylakant we're using output for generation
09:39 Xylakant as things should be
09:39 Jarda I can make a patch against sample app, that breaks when .input is changed to ';&'
09:41 MugeSo Xylakant: gen uses .input when route is null and parameter is empty.
09:41 Xylakant what's your incoming url?
09:41 Jarda /foo?bar=1&baz=2
09:42 Xylakant well
09:42 Xylakant how do you expect that to work?
09:43 Xylakant you're passing one single parameter
09:43 Xylakant it's name is 'bar' and the value is '1&baz=2'
09:43 Xylakant and that's what we generate on gen(null)
09:43 Xylakant no bug
09:44 Xylakant or is that supposed to be a list of separators?
09:44 Jarda you say http://foo.tld/index.php?foo=bar&baz=quux isn't valid?
09:45 Xylakant it certainly is vali
09:45 Xylakant d
09:45 Xylakant let me check
09:46 Xylakant ok. it's supposed to be a list of characters
09:46 Xylakant so each should be regarded as separator
09:46 MikeSeth Xylakant: I'm confused, at what stage does phpunit serialize/unserialize stuff?
09:46 Xylakant MikeSeth: arguments passed to the testcase for example
09:47 MikeSeth hurr
09:47 Xylakant when in isolation
09:47 Xylakant can you try and disable isolation for that test and see if it works
09:47 Xylakant and in error cases some parts of the result can be serialized
09:47 MikeSeth i didnt even realise you could disable isolation
09:48 Xylakant which version are you using
09:48 Xylakant jarda: right, that's a bug
09:48 Xylakant we don't treat a list of input separators correctly
09:49 MikeSeth umm 1.0.1 from pear iirc..lemme check
09:49 MikeSeth yep 1.0.1
09:50 Xylakant try calling
09:50 Xylakant $this->setRunTestInSeparateProcess(false); in the constructor
09:50 MikeSeth of the test?
09:50 Xylakant you might have to call it before calling the parent constructor
09:50 Xylakant yes
09:52 Jarda Xylakant: ok, any way to workaround?
09:52 MikeSeth Xylakant: heh, works
09:52 Xylakant not calling gen(null) is the only idea i currently have
09:53 Jarda ok
09:53 Jarda you want me to open a ticket?
09:53 Jarda I have a patch against sample app
09:53 Xylakant certainly
10:02 Jarda https://trac.agavi.org/ticket/1227
10:10 Xylakant right
10:15 Xylakant david is currently offline but we'll have a look at it
10:17 Jarda yeah, It's not a show stopper, as it occures only in an action only our own staff uses
10:17 Jarda doesn't break the whole application :)
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10:19 digitarald u can change the FPF parameters for that action
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10:21 Jarda I first have to bug our hosting provider why they have that setting
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10:23 Xylakant digitarald: only disabling would help
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11:11 cheerios_ huomenta
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11:50 _cheerios nokia+intel joined forces on mobile front... interesting; http://meego.com
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12:08 Yossi_ Huomenta
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12:34 MikeSeth people TOLD me not to use REPLACE INTO
12:34 MikeSeth hurr durr
12:34 MikeSeth kills self
12:39 Yossi_ Hello, I want to create a routing rule for images and other media, with language/currency fallbacks (as in, if image missing in en/eur - use same image as en/usd folder). They way I thought of doing it is creating a script that looks at those folders and builds an xml file with all the exisiting media, the xml can then be prased by a config handler - and then the routing callback ongenerate...
12:39 Yossi_ ...method can use the resulting cache file to map to the right file. My question is how do make my folder scanning->xml script run in the agavi initialization faze, but only when you clear the projects cache (so it doesn't do it for every request). any ideas?
12:39 Yossi_ spelling...
12:41 Yossi_ MikeSeth: don't die...
12:42 MikeSeth um
12:42 MikeSeth ummmm
12:45 Yossi_ I wonder is you can hook something in to the project-cache-clear mechanizem
12:47 Xylakant Yossi_: why don't you add that to the deployment scripts?
12:49 MikeSeth thats what i told him too
12:51 Yossi_ Sounds logical enough, just wanted to save our webmaster from running another command when adding images to the site...
12:51 MikeSeth she should lurk less and work moar
12:52 MikeSeth also if that's so critical you can hook it up to git pre-commit or something
12:52 Yossi_ hehe... yeah... and I am saving 80% of her daily fail with this project
12:54 Yossi_ git hooks, sounds good
12:55 Xylakant Yossi_: how many commands does she need to run?
12:55 Xylakant does she call the agavi public-create?
12:55 Yossi_ project-cache-clear... for now
12:55 Xylakant well, you can use the buildsystem to call arbitrary tasks
12:56 Xylakant so you can have agavi deploy-live
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12:56 Xylakant which calls project-cache-clear and create-image-mapping
12:56 Yossi_ Xylakant: Smart....
13:05 Xylakant you should read the agavi blog more often
13:05 Xylakant I posted about that
13:10 saracen I read the agavi blog once
13:10 saracen It told me to use short validator names
13:10 saracen I've never looked at it again since
13:11 Xylakant well, if you prefer more typing, feel free
13:13 saracen :D
13:16 Yossi_ Oh I only now found there is a blog
13:17 Xylakant does anyone have an old phing pear package?
13:17 Xylakant 2.3.x?
13:18 Xylakant i
13:18 Xylakant i'd like to tackle http://trac.agavi.org/ticket/1216 and http://trac.agavi.org/ticket/1222
13:22 Jarda [echo] Phing:
13:22 Jarda [echo] Version: Phing version 2.3.3
13:23 Jarda I can run a simple test if you tell how to
13:24 Xylakant thanks, but generating a proper patch is somewhat complicated
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13:30 v-dogg saracen: +1 for full class names vs. short names and hidden parameters :)
13:33 Xylakant hmm, so you'd prefer to use FooProjectUsernameValidator and specifying all parameters over having a sensible set of defaults and calling it "username"
13:33 Xylakant may I ask if you use the "email" validator?
13:45 saracen Xylakant: Yeah, I do. I use the shortnames for build in agavi validators
13:45 saracen built in*
13:46 Xylakant so why not for your own?
13:46 saracen That way, I know they're built in. Full class name also tells me a lot about where the class is stored. A lot of the time, while developing, I realise I can solve an issue by just extending a validator slightly, rather than make 2 that are semi-unique. My point being, sometimes the name changes slightly.
13:46 saracen But the biggest reason is simply because it's just not that much of a timesaver. I usually write it once, then copy it out of other validators anyway
13:47 saracen I dont want anything hidden. If I want to search for the name of that validator to see all of its uses, I just search for one name, the class name
13:48 saracen Say I had to write my own Email validator, because agavi wouldn't provide one. If I wanted to search for it's use: AgaviEmailValidator vs. Email. - I'd get quite a few results come back which were just about a generic usage of email
13:48 Xylakant I often see the other way round - the same intent but the definitions all over the place
13:48 Xylakant 5 actions check for username
13:48 Xylakant and they all use a different length
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13:48 Xylakant and I prefer to have the definition in one place
13:49 Xylakant so i can change it in one place and it's consistent all over the app
13:49 saracen How is that not the case for what I'm doing?
13:50 saracen You mean, because you'd keep the alias the same, but change the name of the validator? or?
13:50 Xylakant if you only use the validator once then there's no benefit having a short name
13:50 Xylakant if you use it in multiple places you can have a reasonable set of default parameters attached
13:50 Xylakant and you can change the name of the validator class later
13:51 saracen I can have default parameters in my validator class
13:51 Xylakant yes, certainly
13:51 Xylakant but you cannot have two sets
13:51 Xylakant I can
13:51 saracen find/replace (I'm pretty sure I won't run in to problems, giving its the full validator name :))
13:52 Xylakant well, you don't have to do it
13:52 Xylakant i just wanted to point out that you can
13:52 saracen Xylakant: I see, that is interesting
13:52 saracen The different sets, I see what you mean
13:52 Xylakant and that you can actually use that to your benefit
13:53 saracen Yeah, I think there's probably times where defining two different sets like that can be really handy
13:53 saracen I didnt think of that =(
13:53 Xylakant and if you want to change the validator that's behind it it's also handy
13:53 Jarda oh, david was quick
13:53 Xylakant you can start out with a regular stringvalidator for usernames
13:54 Xylakant just limiting the length
13:54 saracen Jarda: That's what she said
13:54 Xylakant improve by using the regexp validator to filter undesired chars
13:55 Xylakant and later define a custom validator that does actual checking and maybe blacklisting of offending names
13:55 Jarda something is ought to fail, bumbing svn:externals to latest HEAD
13:55 Jarda :)
13:55 Xylakant and all of that without grepping through the source
14:01 matbtt Huomenta. In my application I have some restrictions on the number of entities, e.g. a standard account must not create more than five characters. Actually this code is cluttered everywhere and I want move it into a validator.
14:01 Jarda Xylakant: now when arg_separator.input is ";&" and we have been using ";" in our urls (and we have to because of 3rd party apps) $ro->gen(null); changes ";" characters to &Amp; Is this expected (do we have to workaround those when generating
14:01 Xylakant yes, it is expected
14:02 matbtt Are there better places for this logic?
14:02 Jarda ok, then I just workaround it (shouldn't be too hard)
14:02 Xylakant well, you can use the default_gen_options for that
14:02 Xylakant and set the default to ;
14:04 Jarda <ae:parameter name="default_gen_options"> </ae:..> ? in factories.xml?=
14:06 Xylakant sort of
14:06 Xylakant default_gen_options is a list itself
14:06 Jarda ok
14:06 Xylakant it can contain any options that you can pass when calling gen()
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15:10 hzilla_ is there built into agavi a way to look up a timezone for a country or city?
15:25 Yossi_ how do I get the file system route to my pub dir?
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15:58 hzilla_ Yossi: AgaviConfig::get('core.project_dir'.'pub') should do it
16:26 Yossi_ hzilla_: no go :(
16:32 Yossi_ there is no way configuration value that can give the pub die... just dumped them all
16:33 graste you could specifiy your own properties in config.php using the already existing ones :-)
16:33 graste or define it in index.php if you like
16:33 Xylakant Yossi_: what do you mean by filesytem route? the path?
16:33 Yossi_ yes the path
16:34 Xylakant AgaviConfig::get('core.app_dir').'/../pub'
16:35 Xylakant AgaviConfig::get('core.project_dir').'/pub' might work but I'm not 100% certain we do set that
16:36 Yossi_ Xylakant: yeah used /../pub. there is no project_dir
16:37 Xylakant i think that's only available in the build system
16:39 sth It's one of those vars I always set in projects though :/
16:45 Xylakant we might consider introducing that as a default
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18:09 J-P is there a reason the FPF would somehow screw up the encoding ?
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18:15 J-P somehow, when I pre-populate a form, all specials characters are turned into stuff like ?(C)
18:22 J-P hum It's somehow localized to a single module
18:23 J-P Is it possible one of my file does not use a proper UTF-8 encoding ?
18:26 v-dogg it is
18:28 J-P i re-saved the action, the template, the view..
18:28 J-P with Textmate making sure it's using UTF-8
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18:36 J-P I re-saved the files making sure it's UTF8 and it's not fixit it ...
18:36 J-P :-S
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18:54 J-P Is there known issues with the FPF and accented characters in page titles ?
18:55 J-P it seems there is problems..
18:55 J-P well, I believe
18:56 J-P ok
18:56 J-P This is an issue when the <title> element contains special characters like ? ? ? ... using the HTML 5 doctype
18:57 J-P should I fill a I-found-a-bug form ?
19:00 J-P v-dogg ?
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08:51 simoncpu huomenta,people!
08:51 simoncpu weeeeeee
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08:52 _cheerios huomenta
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08:54 simoncpu do you guys know how to ignore SIGINT (i.e., Ctrl+C) in CLI scripts?
08:57 graste huomenta
09:00 graste simoncpu: something like that probably: http://pastie.org/826832
09:01 simoncpu graste: yepp, that would catch SIGINT, but it won't jump to where it left off
09:01 simoncpu it will catch SIGINT, but not ignore it... :(
09:02 graste I don't get it
09:02 graste didn't play around with this too much
09:03 graste you couldn't just ignore it when signal is catched?
09:06 simoncpu aha... i think it works
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09:06 simoncpu except that i used sleep() to test my script
09:06 simoncpu it jumps back to the previous point and continues executing but the sleep timer is reset
09:07 simoncpu hmmm... i won't use sleep() anyway
09:07 simoncpu tests
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09:12 graste simoncpu: f5 http://pastie.org/826832
09:14 simoncpu whoa... i never thought i could do that with declare()
09:16 graste i think declare ticks is not state of the art, but it works :>
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09:27 simoncpu aha, i think i got my problem
09:27 simoncpu i have bourne shell script that calls this php script
09:28 simoncpu when the bourne script calls the php script, there is this critcal ~1 second where the php is loaded and the pcntl calls are not yet executed
09:28 simoncpu so i can press ctrl+c at that critical 1 second... blah
09:29 simoncpu we have this weird project where PHP is used to initialize the whole OS
09:29 simoncpu PHP is not suitable for this kind of task... blah :(
09:32 graste :>
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13:36 graste lalalalala
13:39 v-dogg no singing
13:40 sth whistles the Bladadder theme tune
13:40 Xylakant well, no need to whistle, i can hear it over your headphones :)
13:41 v-dogg haha
13:41 sth You can hear the music I'm playing?
13:41 v-dogg open office <3 :)
13:41 Xylakant well, yes :)
13:41 Xylakant i'd not call it music though ;)
13:42 sth Xylakant should be lucky I'm using headphones. I've become used to not using headphones since I'm the only one here normally
13:42 sth It's a dance music album
13:42 sth makes a note to buy better headphones
13:44 graste dance music?
13:44 graste wtf? :D
13:44 sth What you european scum call "techno"
13:44 graste haha
13:45 v-dogg haha
13:45 graste eurodance trash or what
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13:59 Jarda v-dogg: bought me new speakers today
13:59 Jarda <3
14:00 Jarda s/://
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15:24 darkom hi
15:28 sth hi
15:31 darkom i have a problem when I try to export an array
15:31 darkom all the values get filtered
15:31 darkom it may be a bug
15:32 darkom as I can see the AgaviValidator->export method checks if it is an array and adds ArgumentResult for each key
15:32 darkom however the keys reproduced by AgaviArrayPathDefinition::getFlatKeyNames
15:32 darkom return sth like
15:33 darkom 0[fields][0][type]
15:33 darkom instead of
15:33 darkom [0][fields][0][type]
15:33 darkom and so in the report the results are
15:33 darkom parameters/fieldsets_data[0fields][0][type]
15:33 darkom instead of
15:34 darkom parameters/fieldsets_data[0][fields][0][type]
15:34 darkom and the array values get filtered
15:34 darkom i'm puzzled
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15:35 Xylakant can you post your validation.xml and your code?
15:36 darkom it's simple
15:37 darkom this is the validator part
15:37 darkom http://pastebin.com/m7ea0eb
15:38 darkom this is the validator part
15:38 darkom http://pastebin.com/m97b1bff
15:39 darkom if I change line 319 from AgaviArrayPathDefinition
15:39 darkom from
15:39 darkom $name = $key;
15:39 darkom to
15:39 darkom $name = '[' . $key . ']';
15:40 darkom or the part in AgaviValidator->export
15:40 darkom from
15:40 darkom AgaviArrayPathDefinition::getFlatKeyNames($value)
15:40 darkom to
15:40 darkom AgaviArrayPathDefinition::getFlatKeyNames($value, '')
15:40 darkom it works
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16:00 hzilla_ looks like that bug
16:08 hzilla_ http://trac.agavi.org/ticket/1189
16:16 Xylakant hzilla_: doesn't look like that to me
16:17 Xylakant but 0[fields][0][type] is what I'd actually expect as a result
16:17 Xylakant this is not a valid fieldname in a form [0][fields][0][type]
16:17 Xylakant and thus not a valid parameter name
16:19 hzilla_ i see, tho if 0 is the first character the sub-array may be ignored as a consequence of that bug?
16:23 Xylakant yes, he might loose 0[fields][0][type] while seeing 1[fields][0][type]
16:23 Xylakant but he's complaining about the name 0[fields][0][type] instead of [0][fields][0][type]
16:23 Xylakant darkom: any commet
16:24 darkom yes
16:24 darkom if getFlatKeyNames returns with [0]
16:24 darkom afterwards everything is working as expected
16:24 darkom in this scenario*
16:25 darkom maybe it's a problem afterwards where the key is translated to
16:25 darkom fieldsets_data[0fields][0][type]
16:25 darkom this [0fields] makes no sense
16:26 Xylakant so what does the export look like? can you post a dump of that?
16:29 darkom I just updated to 1.0.2, and the problem disapeared
16:29 darkom i guess it was that bug after all
16:29 hzilla_ i did see very similar results behaviour when i came across it
16:30 darkom thanks
16:31 Xylakant yeah, looks like it
16:40 hzilla_ so i was having this strange behaviour on my site. i haven't investigated thoroughly yet but it looks like when i do an ajax call to a route the home page gets matched also and i get that loaded as well. firebug and the adt show two responses but one is ignored by the ajax call. is it possible for two responses to be returned with one call?
16:41 Xylakant actually, I can't think of how that could possibly happen
16:42 hzilla_ yeh its strange.. not sure how to go about debugging it
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16:54 hzilla_ thinking it might be client side issue
16:54 Xylakant http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8518049.stm
16:57 hzilla_ politics in the uk has becom more ridiculous than ever
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18:22 J-P Hi
18:22 J-P yesterday, I believe I found a bug with the FPF
18:22 J-P Is there a place I can report it ?
18:27 matbtt_ J-P: http://trac.agavi.org/newticket
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19:13 J-P Is there a way to reach Wombert right now ?
19:16 sth J-P: If it's an agavi bug, create a ticket
19:16 J-P I did
19:16 sth It'll be picked up eventually
19:16 sth probably next week
19:17 J-P David answered me
19:17 J-P saying it cannot be reproduced, but it can
19:17 sth then give reproduction steps
19:18 J-P I've built a test case, however it's too large to be uploaded.
19:18 sth upload to localhostr.com or a similar service and then link to it
19:18 J-P alright
19:19 sth I'll let Kaos know about the file upload thing and get him to increase it tomorrow
19:19 J-P thnx!
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22:24 movvy does anyone know any agavi guys who want to work on contract?
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22:32 _cheerios best talk with the framework creators on that http://www.bitextender.com/
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22:35 E_mE huomenta
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23:02 movvy hmm
23:03 movvy their service offerings seem to be all based around training and support :)
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23:17 _cheerios i updated my twitter pic </random-nonsensical-update>
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01:50 movvy <ae:parameter>AT&T</ae:parameter>
01:50 movvy this is highlighting the & sign strange
01:50 movvy is there some special way to denote this in the validate.xml config?
02:17 hzilla try &amp;
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03:37 movvy hmm
03:37 movvy devastation
03:38 movvy i am working with the tutorial and a bit about the user authentication system
03:38 movvy and in my case surrounding it, there is a protected variable which is should be clearly set, however after i login it appears to be empty
03:39 movvy it is always something :)
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05:54 movvy if I use the isSecure function
05:54 movvy and I try and go to a page that is secure... how do i knmow what view is oging to return
05:55 movvy it says LoginSuccess right now?
05:55 movvy where is this set
05:56 movvy I see
05:56 movvy it seems to return it to the system_action login
05:58 movvy awesome fixed
06:12 movvy hmm almost a weeka fter someone posted it, now I need the FPF population tutorial stuff ;)
06:12 movvy I want to make an edit page!! ;)
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06:30 Jarda $populate = new AgaviParameterHolder(); $populate->setParameter('foo', $bar); $this->getContext()->getRequest()->setAttribute('populate', array( 'form_id'=>$populate), 'org.agavi.filter.FormPopulationFilter');
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06:56 movvy oke, its like bedimte now, but I put it in a word doc to try tomorrow!
06:56 movvy thanks Jarda!
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08:18 simoncpu whoa... i came across this pic
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08:19 simoncpu http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=t7d181&s=4&hid=1&tag=agavi
08:19 simoncpu is this an official tutorial or something?
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08:26 digitarald simoncpu: it was in the old tutorial
08:27 digitarald Huomenta :)
08:29 digitarald ... http://www.zazzle.com/cr/design/pt-hat?coverimage=b3dae330-bc38-4bc4-a4c2-7d8a3a​3308d6&pd=148514879545726487&cn=238663562064450277&linkover=True&r=4890660 :)
08:35 simoncpu this guy looks familiar too:
08:35 simoncpu http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=xfbz3o&s=4&hid=8&tag=saracen
08:35 simoncpu do you guys know who he is?
08:35 simoncpu NYAHAHAHAHAHA
08:36 saracen I know who i am :D
08:36 saracen What a tagger
08:37 saracen Seriously, I dress up as a homosexual devil once and I pay for it every other day
08:37 simoncpu you look so cute in your outfit!
08:37 simoncpu aaaaw.... *so cute*
08:37 simoncpu :p
08:37 saracen !!
08:37 saracen =(
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08:51 graste huomenta
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08:52 _cheerios huomenta
09:01 sth Yay, the telecom engineer is here
09:03 graste yeh!
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09:05 sth I finally get my own line
09:05 graste \o_ \o/ _o/
09:06 sth wtf is that?
09:06 graste /o/
09:06 sth Landing a plane?
09:06 graste ppl throwing arms in the air
09:06 graste ^^
09:06 sth I'll go with landing a plane...
09:06 graste flight deck officers?
09:07 graste ^^
09:07 sth yeah
09:08 sth Then I have to go to the office and work
09:08 graste :\
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09:13 graste welcome ^^
09:13 graste meanhuomenta
09:16 MugeSo graste: I think " /o/ " is jumping goalkeeper :D
09:16 graste :>
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10:20 digitarald \o/
10:21 digitarald lunch on the rocks
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12:19 CIA-74 dominik * r4423 /branches/1.0/ (CHANGELOG src/translation/AgaviTranslationManager.class.php):
12:19 CIA-74 fix AgaviTranslationManager->getDefaultLocale() using an undefined variable (and hence being completely broken)
12:19 CIA-74 closes #1229
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12:38 _cheerios is php-fpm mature for php 5.2+5.3 ?
12:52 _cheerios https://bugs.launchpad.net/php-fpm hmm... i wonder if apache+mod_php is still the best way to run php
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13:02 Xylakant _cheerios: why not lighty + fcgi?
13:20 matbtt_ Huomenta. All my validators are using the same translation_domain for messages. Is there a way to configure this globally? In the validator definitions it is not possible and the AgaviValidator translates only with given translation_domain.
13:20 matbtt_ If possible I want to avoid hacking in AgaviValidator. ;)
13:27 matbtt_ Ahh, I can set it via parameters in the applications validators.xml... it is not really global as I need to set it for every validator there, but bettern than cluttering translation_domain attribute all over my validations files
13:29 Xylakant you might try and add it to the <validators> tag
13:30 Xylakant I must admit I never encountered that problem, but I think that might work
13:33 matbtt_ Xylakant: Nope. Validators tag does not like this attribute. But no problem.
13:33 Xylakant hmm, kk
13:33 matbtt_ But no problem, I'm using application specific validator definitions. I can set it there. It's fine for me.
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13:36 _cheerios Xylakant, using lighty+fcgi atm., trying to go for all nginx setup
13:36 _cheerios one problem with lighty+fcgi i've had is that the fcgi processes die
13:37 _cheerios not sure if any better with php-fpm
13:37 _cheerios "die" as in, they're there, but they serve php erroneously
13:39 Xylakant hmm, never happened to me
13:40 Xylakant maybe the bytecode cache was corrupted
13:44 _cheerios something annoying idd, havent had time to look into. temporary glue has been to restart the process every 3hrs via cron...
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14:24 hzilla hey can validators trim line breaks? works for whitespace bot not \r\n it seems
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14:33 hzilla hm looks like its doing a \p replace but doesn't seem to work
14:33 Xylakant which validator are you using?
14:33 Xylakant trim should work with the stringvalidator, but only if you export the value
14:34 hzilla oh have to export it ok
14:34 Xylakant oh, seems like the validator still modifies the value in place
14:34 Xylakant so no need to export currently
14:35 hzilla hm not getting expected result - will debug a bit more
14:36 sth J-P: The file upload limit has been increased
14:36 J-P thnx
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14:49 graste http://pleaserobme.com/ :D
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15:29 hzilla http://pastie.org/829033
15:29 hzilla looks like string validator is always switching to utf-8 mode and that preg_expression won't match
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15:49 hzilla the other problem is that if you do a string post, the text is urlencoded so that slips past the trimmer as linebreaks are encoded as %0A
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15:50 hzilla i'll write a ticket
15:50 Xylakant weird, the value should certainly be decoded
15:53 hzilla and then for some reasons the originalValue is exported instead of the new value!
15:53 hzilla maybe that's the problem with the decode
15:59 matbtt_ It seems today is validation day! Next question. I have a validator validating two fields (password/password_confirm). However errors are only shown on the first field... I would like to have it on both fields.
15:59 matbtt_ ...IMHO the settings of the FormPopulationFilter are not correct?
16:03 hzilla matbtt_:http://pastie.org/829100
16:09 matbtt_ hzilla: Thx.
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16:31 hzilla Xylakant, is urlencoded post data decoded before it arrives at the validators?
16:31 Xylakant it should be
16:31 hzilla yeh i mean when its inserted into the db it seems to be ok
16:32 hzilla but looking into my posted data i'm getting an html entity
16:32 hzilla at the validator
16:32 Xylakant an html entity?
16:32 Xylakant or a url-encoded value?
16:32 hzilla yeh line break is coming is as &#10;
16:32 Xylakant err?
16:32 v-dogg um?
16:33 Xylakant that is rather unexpected
16:33 hzilla i don't get it either
16:33 hzilla where should i look to find the decoding bits?
16:34 Xylakant html entities will not be decoded
16:34 Xylakant actually, all url-decoding for post values should happen when the php interpreter accepts the request
16:34 hzilla yeh sure but i'm wondering igf %0A is getting cnverted into entities
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16:34 hzilla right
16:34 Xylakant that would make no sens
16:34 Xylakant you could try and dump $_POST in your dispatcher
16:34 hzilla ok maybe this is a red herring
16:35 matbtt_ hzilla: regarding http://pastie.org/829100, just thought about it... and it wont work.. the error message "Passwords do not match" will be shown on the password field, but not on the password_confirm field...
16:35 hzilla matbtt: you could remove the provide/depends i think
16:36 matbtt_ ...nope. I did... I'm not sure why, but FormPopulationFilter handles ValidationsIncidents with multiple arguments this way... have to dive deeper into it
16:38 hzilla Xylakant: i'm debugging an ajax call so firebug is saying the input is &#10; possibly this is just firebug converting %0A
16:39 hzilla or xdebug
16:39 Xylakant hmm, you might just dump the post to a file
16:39 hzilla k
16:44 hzilla ok line breaks as expected..
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16:52 Xylakant so the issue might be firebug displaying that wrong
16:55 hzilla yeh but that's a seperate problem to the trimming
16:59 Xylakant yes, indeed
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18:27 cheerios_ fucking shit xchat. fuck
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18:27 _cheerios better
18:28 Xylakant hmm, what makes you feel better now? having the underscore at the beginning of the name instead of at the end?
18:28 Xylakant does that make you feel better arranged?
18:28 _cheerios xchat doesn't save settings unless you connect to a server having made changes.
18:29 _cheerios retarded.
18:29 _cheerios the positioning is only based on what my registered nick is here
18:29 _cheerios no mystery beyond that
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19:43 _cheerios domain expiring for my php-orm project. so it's nearly been a year since i wanted that beast out, gaah!
19:51 v-dogg :)
19:53 _cheerios i'll github it real soon...
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20:11 _cheerios doctrine might hit 2.0 before i release it, hah!
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20:52 _cheerios meh. custom homepage sites raking in millions $$, and mine is delayed since 2008 :|
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21:54 _cheerios it's swell to note that good design decisions only strenghten the package in the long run. planning isn't waste \o/
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21:56 impl why is Phing such a pile of freaking garbage
21:56 impl grrrrrrrrrrrr
21:57 saracen ~garbage? american.
21:57 impl what do you call it?
21:57 impl refuse?
21:59 _cheerios turd!
22:02 CIA-74 david * r4424 /branches/1.0/ (CHANGELOG RELEASE_NOTES src/build/agavi/script/agavi.php): Require Phing 2.4 or newer, closes #1232
22:16 sth impl: rubish
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22:23 CIA-74 felix * r4425 /branches/1.0/ (5 files in 5 dirs):
22:23 CIA-74 - reverted [4411]
22:23 CIA-74 - removed the AgaviImportTask and replaced it with phings import task
22:23 CIA-74 - refs #1216 and fixes it for good
22:23 CIA-74 - fixes #1231 (Project build.xml not used with Phing 2.4.0+)
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22:42 CIA-74 felix * r4426 /branches/1.0/src/build/agavi/script/agavi.php:
22:42 CIA-74 reverts unintended changes introduced in [4425]
22:42 CIA-74 - removes duplicate message
22:42 CIA-74 - removes some dead code
22:42 CIA-74 -refs #1231
22:47 Rayne ACHTUNG! serious business: what was the name of that (british?) tv series with that incredible awesome german general?
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23:02 Xylakant lost to phing
23:02 Xylakant it's impossible to be compatible with 2.3.x and 2.4.x
23:03 Xylakant at least if you're doing some moderately advanced stuff
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23:17 saracen 21:56:45 < impl> what do you call it?
23:18 saracen "why is Phing such a pile of shit" would probably be what most British people would say
23:18 saracen Some might attempt to be creative, by calling it a pile of dildos or something though
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08:12 graste huomenta
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09:09 sth Morning
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10:07 macen anybody come across drupal.org? seeing it more and more
10:08 macen seems "over documented", if that's possible
10:09 Xylakant as far as I've heard it's a reasonable system
10:10 Xylakant though they still are php4 compatible
10:10 sth I made a social networking site with drupal
10:10 Xylakant which is a bad thing - you get to use the lowest common denominator
10:12 sth I hated how drupal produced the worst HTML/XHTML known to man
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11:28 pashyon hey everybody, i have a question about dates and translation, is there a predefined date to get a short month tag (3 letters, like 'Feb' for february) for every month including translation
11:29 pashyon $tm->_(date()something);
11:30 pashyon sry for my english ^^
11:33 v-dogg you need to define a translation domain for it
11:33 v-dogg just a sec, I'll give you an example
11:36 v-dogg http://pastebin.ca/1801419
11:36 pashyon ah ok ty
11:37 v-dogg formatting codes can be found here: http://userguide.icu-project.org/formatparse/datetime#TOC-Date-Time-Format-Synta​x
11:37 v-dogg and to use that domain do echo $tm->_d($mydate, 'shortmonth');
11:38 v-dogg note that you have a format string per locale. in my example only "fi" locale is used
11:39 v-dogg a more comprehensive example: http://www.mivesto.de/agavi/agavi-faq.html#translation_0
11:39 pashyon haha slow down a bit ;p
11:40 pashyon thanks a lot
11:40 v-dogg take your time, those links aren't going anywhere :)
11:45 pashyon ok nice its working
11:49 pashyon thank you :)
11:50 v-dogg no problem. we aim to please
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13:53 E_mE huomenta
13:53 E_mE does agavi have a pre-defined configuration for implementing language based on the Incoming Header?
13:53 E_mE HTTP Header that be
13:54 Xylakant no
13:54 Xylakant it's simple to do in routing though
13:55 E_mE would the best place to incept this be in the AgaviWebRequest?
13:55 E_mE ah yes
13:55 E_mE with a callback?
13:56 Xylakant define a route that matches the header, use a callback
13:56 Xylakant you should probably do language switches based on a url-snippet though
13:57 E_mE well, ill check for header if /en/ or what ever doesn't exist in the URL
13:57 sth I really detest sites that do language checks based on geoip
13:57 E_mE sth: not by geoip, using the HTTP Header that the browser sends, unless you where just voicing your anger :)
13:57 Xylakant well, then you should probably do that in the language routes callback, in the onNotMatched section
13:57 Xylakant have a look at the sample app
13:57 sth Just voicing anger :)
13:58 Xylakant it does it using a cookie
13:58 Xylakant I fail to see what's wrong with doing the initial selection based on geoip
13:58 E_mE Xylakant: we have a language routing callback :) ill take a peak into it :) thank you
13:58 Xylakant just because you're based in germany :)
13:59 E_mE hahahaha
13:59 E_mE sth is a very angry man :P
13:59 sth Xylakant: Take me for example
13:59 sth Google, Paypal, and many others give me German instead of English
13:59 sth Google is the worst for it
14:00 E_mE sth: i get the same problem with google search here, always directing me to google.ES
14:01 Xylakant sth: yes, but it's a reasonable guess that works for most cases
14:01 E_mE maybe its a legal thing? to confirm to local laws or so... i don;t know just an assumption
14:01 Xylakant far better than using the accept-language header
14:01 E_mE Xylakant: how comes? accept-language is based on your computer configurations, so would be considered more valid to the user?
14:02 Xylakant it's based on the browser's localization
14:02 Xylakant so if you download the german firefox you get german
14:02 Xylakant i usually get english
14:02 Xylakant since i use an english operating system
14:02 E_mE why? when you speak german
14:02 Xylakant i'm used to it
14:02 E_mE oh english menus etc?
14:03 Xylakant yes
14:03 Xylakant i also use an english firefox
14:03 Xylakant though I do use a german keyboard
14:03 Xylakant a
14:03 Xylakant anyways, if you speak a language that's more rare than german or swiss
14:03 Xylakant then the chance that there's a localized version gets lower
14:04 Xylakant more people will use the english version
14:04 Xylakant and then suddenly geoip trumps accept language
14:04 E_mE what about odd languages like gaylic or so :P
14:04 E_mE then geoip fail
14:04 sth Xylakant: one can assume though, if they're used to English, they should cope with the website being in English :D
14:06 Xylakant yes, but I can assume since you're sitting in germany that you can cope with finding an english flag on a german website
14:07 Xylakant E_mE: yes, certainly. is there a firefox localized in gaelic
14:07 E_mE looks
14:09 E_mE appears no
14:10 E_mE its mentioned but thats about it
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14:27 Yossi_ Huomenta
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16:39 macen i'm getting "Unsupported operand types" with a new server setup, see http://85.113.83.196/index.php - phpinfo() is here http://85.113.83.196/phpinfo.php
16:40 macen Google seems to indicate its the PHP version but I'm running the same setup locally with no problems
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16:57 Xylakant macen: agavi version?
16:58 macen 1.0.2RC3
16:59 Xylakant hmm, weird
16:59 Yossi_ I am trying to figure out if its a good idea to have agavi route to serve things like images
17:00 Yossi_ it's probably a lot of overhead on routing...
17:01 macen sorry, 1.01
17:02 Xylakant macen: shouldn't make any difference
17:02 Xylakant it complains about + in concatenating to arrays
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17:02 Xylakant the only thing that springs to my mind is that one of your config_handler files in a module is not parsed properly and thus empty
17:03 Xylakant you might go and check the cached file
17:03 Xylakant Yossi_: depends on what you're trying to do
17:03 Xylakant if you need to check access rights and stuff, then it makes sens
17:03 Xylakant e
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17:04 _cheerios heimoi!
17:09 macen Xylakant: no empty files
17:09 macen I can't see the config_handlers compiled php file for the Default action/view/template
17:11 Yossi_ I am doing content negotiation on media files (fallbacks on missing images etc), I have set up the script that builds a xml media 'map' of all things available, and a config handler that caches it, now I'm building the routing call back to generate the right urls (according to rules in settings.xm, and the map), but now I think that means that routing pattern for this will be quite broad,...
17:11 Yossi_ ...and i'll have to worry about serving the files through an action, which I don't really need to (the ongenerate methods already creates path to existing files). so I think instead of generating the urls with a route, i'll do it with a helper model of sorts.
17:24 macen this is very strange
17:24 macen i'll update to 1.02 and see how i get on
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17:33 Xylakant Yossi_: i don't see why you'd need to serve files through an action
17:34 Xylakant a routing callback can return a response
17:34 Xylakant that response will be sent to the client directly
17:35 Yossi_ Xylakant: Okay, though my real fear is about the routing evaluating a lot of requests...
17:36 Xylakant well then you need to generate the proper urls to the static files
17:41 Yossi_ hmmm... any reason I shouldn't use a helper model for generating the urls?
17:49 Xylakant no,
17:51 movvy Xylakant, do you work for bitxtender?
17:51 Xylakant yes
17:52 movvy I was reading your service offerings, do you offer any project style consulting?
17:52 movvy i didn't see anything listed
17:52 Xylakant certainly
17:52 movvy do you guys have any rates or information, or do you generally do fixed bid style or?
17:52 Xylakant http://www.agavi.org/support
17:53 Xylakant bottom right, consulting :)
17:53 Xylakant we do fixed bid but only with appropriate specs
17:54 Xylakant you'd best email david if you need specific information
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17:56 movvy gotcha will do, we have the need for some realtime status and presence information and a pretty complex friends / rbac system that needs developing
17:56 movvy considering outsourcing all the realtime work, not really sure how to go about that :)
17:57 movvy I will emial david though, thanks!
17:57 Xylakant you're welcome
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19:10 hzilla hey is there some way to get the country name from a country code? the getTerritoryData() method doens't retrun the localised country name
19:11 Xylakant there is a method that returns all countrynames in the current locale
19:11 hzilla ok i'll look it up
19:13 Jarda my personal home page has had 16 hits from germany (according to google analytics)
19:13 Jarda what are they doing there :D
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19:17 robopuff huomenta, ive got question - can i parse custom xml file with build-in agavi parsers?
19:17 Xylakant we at bitextender have one employee only to go visit our users personal websites. just to make them happy. that's what we're doing for you.
19:17 Xylakant or what did you think sth is doing all day long, jarda?
19:17 Jarda Xylakant: from 6 different cities?
19:18 Xylakant certainly
19:18 Xylakant robopuff: yes and no
19:18 Jarda ok, cool
19:18 Jarda that makes me happy :)
19:18 Xylakant you can use the returnarrayconfighandler which transforms pretty much all xml into an array
19:19 Xylakant and you can build your own config handler using the config parser that we use
19:19 Xylakant but that's pretty basic
19:19 Xylakant so depending on how your custom xml looks like it may or may not be worth it
19:19 robopuff Xylakant: thanks, ill check it ;)
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19:27 robopuff hmmm .. .can i parse xml file from any directory?
19:29 Xylakant yes, you just need to register the appropriate config handler
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20:55 Jarda is there a way to figure out why file validator is failing?
20:55 Jarda http://pastebin.com/m1167a369
20:56 Jarda http://pastebin.com/m5782f00a
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21:16 v-dogg Jarda: enctype missing
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22:27 _cheerios meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh.
22:39 saracen No, not today.
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22:54 _cheerios so excited, so drunk. sleep?
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02:43 MugeSo can't we setup layouts in modules' config ? :(
03:45 MugeSo I should do that in loadlayout method of modules' BaseView class, right?
03:50 MugeSo btw, PHP Conference Japan 2010 has been announced will held on 25th sep.
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04:29 MugeSo Huomenta
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05:27 Jarda I'm using uploadify (http://www.uploadify.com/) to upload files. However, my file upload action is secure, how should I make that flash madnessa understand my sessions?
05:30 Jarda isn't it a bit unsecure to pass session ids in POST?
05:38 v-dogg not really any less secure than passing them in a cookie
05:41 MugeSo yeah, on the other hand, session id in query string is less secure.
05:42 v-dogg how so?
05:43 v-dogg because you can see it easily?
05:47 MugeSo because it will be passed to other server as referer when user click outbound link.
05:47 v-dogg ah, true
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08:55 Jarda hmm, have been so busy doing work I hadn't opened my ssh session :o
08:56 Jarda yeah, how would I then manage the session id passing? in user startup or?
08:56 Jarda I guess I have to do something like session_id($_POST['session_id'])
08:56 Jarda or can I do it per action?
08:57 Jarda it's one action I'm posting to with a flash file uploader
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08:59 graste huomenta
09:00 Xylakant Jarda: I assume you're generating the url you're posting to somewhere in your agavi app and pass it to the uploader
09:01 sth Morning
09:09 Jarda Xylakant: yes
09:10 Xylakant $ro->gen('foo.bar', array('pinky' => 'narf'), array('use_trans_sid' => true)); should do it
09:10 Xylakant that should append the proper session parameters to the url
09:10 Xylakant however, that will not help if session.use_only_cookies is enabled
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09:13 Jarda it shouldn't be
09:13 Jarda but nice, thanks
09:13 Jarda that's easier than I thought
09:18 Xylakant the agavi experience :)
09:38 digitarald "that's easier than I though"(TM(TM)
09:39 digitarald gotta tweet that
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09:43 Xylakant :)
09:45 digitarald also highlights the hidden, undocumented agavi features ;)
09:46 stachu Hello, i would like to ask what is the best way to implement many templates in agavi - now im using $layer->setParameter('theme', 'v1.0'); in base view and <ae:parameter name="directory">%core.template_dir%/${theme}</ae:parameter> in output_types
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09:46 stachu but today i have to create diffrent templates for diffrent domains
09:47 stachu i would appriciate any help
09:47 Xylakant why don't you go the same route?
09:48 stachu i dont now if its correct and what influence has it on cache - probably i'll try this
09:48 Xylakant you'll need to use the domain as a cache group
09:49 Xylakant otherwise all domains will use the same cache
09:51 stachu and should i create callback to catch domain?
09:53 stachu cause i have to get some static informations about domain from database and im wondering where i shoul do this
09:54 Xylakant well, that's getting really tricky now
09:54 Xylakant I'm sorry but I don't have that much time - either someone else picks that up or you could shoot an email to the list
09:55 stachu ok, thanks anyway
09:55 Xylakant you might consider using a routing callback though
09:55 Xylakant however, you'd have to validate those parameters in each and every place
09:57 Xylakant you could maybe access the request directly and push that information into request attributes
09:58 Xylakant since that information is from a database it would be implicitly trusted
09:58 Xylakant though you should be very careful about doing a database query in the routing
09:59 Xylakant it will be executed on each and every request
09:59 Xylakant caching that result will probably be essential
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10:01 stachu ok
10:03 digitarald still, shoot an email to the list with either your question or your solution ;)
10:03 stachu like i thought - routing is best place but i have to use cache becouse query will be executed each request
10:04 stachu ok, just after i'll test it
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14:00 Jarda ok wtf, why doesn't uploadify send some speficial headers
14:00 Jarda now I have to add /json to the route
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14:09 Jarda Xylakant: use_trans_sid => true doesn't append anything to the url
14:10 Xylakant sending headers is complicated and not always possible from flash
14:10 Xylakant and I'll have to test that other problem
14:10 Xylakant there's a check that the SID constant is set in the code
14:10 Xylakant maybe that's not defined in some circumstances
14:11 Xylakant a quick fix would be to pass array(session_name() => session_id()) as paramters
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14:29 Jarda ok
14:29 Jarda and agavi catches it automatically?
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14:32 hzilla hello
14:34 hzilla i was wondering if anyone has had to deal with with transliteration of foreign text into latin? i had a look around the net but didn't find anything that useful. I noticed that the ICU has some tools for doing it but not sure how to access the api
14:34 hzilla http://userguide.icu-project.org/transforms/general
14:39 Jarda Xylakant: no, $ro->gen('admoin.files.upload+json', array(session_name() => session_id()), array('use_trans_sid' => true)); didn't help
14:40 Jarda my request is stille redirected to login view
14:40 Xylakant how does the generated url look like?
14:40 Jarda /fi/hallinta/tiedostot/lataa/json?Agavi=p54ps3absi7rft9dorhc6j3ku4
14:40 Xylakant well, that's fine
14:41 Xylakant I guess it looks the same if you remove array(session_name() => session_id())
14:41 Jarda /fi/hallinta/tiedostot/lataa/json
14:42 Xylakant interesting
14:42 Xylakant ok, then stick with the full version, you could remove the trans_sid option then
14:43 Xylakant however, if you're still getting redirected to the login page with that url, then you have some other problem
14:43 Xylakant php may not pick up your sessionid when passed in the url
14:43 Jarda that might be
14:48 Jarda yeah..
14:48 Jarda session.use_only_cookies On On
14:48 Jarda session.use_trans_sid 0 0
14:52 Xylakant well, i told you that it wouldn't work with session.use_only_cookies on
14:52 graste 5:42 hours ago <:
14:52 Xylakant that would explain why $ro->gen('admoin.files.upload+json', array(), array('use_trans_sid' => true)); does not work
14:52 graste debugging sucks :>
14:53 saracen_ Jarda: When I did this stuff, I just placed ini_set('session.use_only_cookies', 0); in config.php, so it was application specific
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15:05 Jarda Xylakant: yeah, but I was looking at wrong phpinfo :)
15:05 Jarda sorry for wasting your time
15:06 Xylakant np
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16:16 movvy good morning everyone!
16:16 movvy i suppose its about afternoon :)
16:16 movvy i think IRC should att some kind of timezone notification
16:25 saracen_ 16:24:12 [Freenode] CTCP TIME reply from movvy: Fri Feb 19 11:25:04 2010
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16:36 Xylakant it's 17:36 saracen
16:37 sth Yeah, get with the times saracen_
16:37 graste word
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16:39 saracen_ Germans.
16:39 hzilla what time is it?
16:43 sth I'm English
16:43 sth 17:44
16:44 hzilla i believe that is wrong
16:45 hzilla it's tea time
16:45 graste it's time for weekend
16:46 sth You're right on the weekend part
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16:56 Xylakant I agree. Have a nice weekend, all of you.
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17:10 v-dogg < sth> I'm English
17:10 v-dogg < hzilla> i believe that is wrong
17:11 v-dogg < Xylakant> I agree.
17:11 v-dogg we all do...
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17:24 _cheerios huomenta
17:36 _cheerios new office is sooo nice
17:36 _cheerios smack middle in the expensive part of Helsinki, though, makes for higher lunch prices :|
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18:58 Jarda god I hate css
18:58 Jarda <div class="foo"><div class="bar"> and I'm not seeing the css changes of bar
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18:58 Jarda how should that notation be in my css
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19:12 Jarda ah
19:12 Jarda stupid textmate
19:12 Jarda inserting some utf-8 spaces to my css
19:12 Jarda and breaking my stuff
19:12 neubian use vim
19:12 Jarda don't swear
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20:22 movvy hmm
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20:23 movvy is agavi used enough that it will be something i could put on a job requisite?
20:23 movvy or should i be looking for a PHP developer that has experience with an MVC framework
20:31 movvy whats the deal yo
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20:47 graste depends, but IMHO every developer who got some background/experience and knowledge of MVC frameworks (other programming languages included) and some patterns should get up to speed with agavi pretty fast
20:47 graste even despite the missing docs often mentioned :-)
20:47 graste this channel and some api docs certainly help a lot :-)
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20:48 graste just mention agavi as being used and that experience in it as a plus perhaps?
20:49 movvy gotcha thats what I thought
20:50 movvy I have never hired a developer before, how many years experience and what should i look for in a senior developer
20:51 graste I don't know, I'm not senior in terms of years as well - I just happened to hang around at university and stuff ;)
20:54 graste strong OOP and sw architecture background should certainly help (as well as a broader experience in languages/frameworks and experience with bigger web apps because of scalability/stability etc. as well as common good practices like continuous integration etc. probably won't hurt your senior devs either) :D
20:54 graste just dreaming of things I don't use here ^^
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21:23 _cheerios NOM NOM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKeA3-n27t8&NR=1
21:31 movvy gotcha
21:31 movvy and last question what should i be looking to pay :)
21:31 movvy if you have any idea
21:32 movvy or better yet im wondering if what im wanting to pay is going to get me what i think it will
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01:04 hzilla movvy: its important that you have a clear specification before u start asking people for work.
01:04 hzilla the developer needs to know exactly what u want so they can make it as quickly as possible
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02:15 movvy hzilla, indeed we are working on that now
02:17 saracen_ m00
02:17 movvy moo
02:17 saracen_ is now known as saracen
02:17 movvy how are you saracen
02:17 saracen Not too bad. Sleep pattern is all over the place though
02:17 saracen How about yourself?
02:18 movvy im doing good, just watching the olympics and starting to work a bit more on this web app im creating
02:33 hzilla woop
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04:35 movvy if anyone does happen to know anyone in the usa seeking fulltime employment, that they feel would be the right guy to work with dojo and agavi all day, do let me know please
04:36 movvy also willing to relocate, relocation package negotiable
04:36 movvy meaning we will pay, but i dont know how much
04:36 movvy depends where they come from
04:36 movvy also visa are possible
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18:00 movvy hey all
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04:20 movvy hmm
04:34 movvy how does using <select> with size="X" and multiple="multiple"
04:34 movvy affect things ina validator
04:34 movvy since its an array
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12:02 Yossi_ Huomenta
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12:02 Yossi_ anyidea how to write a routing pattern that will always be matched?
12:04 Jarda Yossi_: well, <route pattern="(.*)" /> should always match
12:04 Jarda no idea though why you would want that
12:05 matbtt_ ...strange
12:06 Yossi_ Jarda: doesn't seem to quite to the trick, I just have an action that I want to run each time - only in development env though
12:06 Yossi_ *do
12:08 Jarda what does it do?
12:14 Yossi_ builds an xml file of available media files by brand/language/currency... it will be ran manualy on production when someone updates the site, but in development I just wanted to make it run each time... I bet there are other ways to do that
12:14 Jarda well if it already is an action, then you could run it as a slot
12:14 Jarda on development
12:17 Yossi_ through output types?
12:23 Jarda yeah
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12:59 MikeSeth hey any example code for action tests?
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18:10 movvy when the FPF fails, is there an easy way to dump the page source of whats failing?
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18:15 movvy i mean i have the error's but im not finding this error :<
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18:21 movvy this is really strange, I believe i have the line it yells about, but i seriously can see nothing wrong
18:21 movvy maybe i have just looked at it too long
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18:24 v-dogg movvy: if you have logging enabled, fpf logs the complete (x)html document it parses
18:25 v-dogg if you can't spot the error paste the source line (plus a few lines above and below) and the error message
18:34 Jarda movvy: in the error view?
18:34 Jarda (I suggest you check that you are setting all template attributes also for the error view (or handleError in action))
18:35 Jarda if php is throwing a E_NOTICE it isn't valid xhtml
18:50 movvy i figured it out, it was bad html
18:50 movvy so here is something im noticin
18:51 movvy I have some form's that have their <select> options dynamically populate
18:51 movvy there is database activites to set attributes in the input action
18:51 movvy but when things are messes up for example, and I redirect my error view back to my input view
18:51 movvy for fpf and validation to take place, my select boxes are all empty
18:52 Jarda what do you nee
18:52 movvy I thought the fpf, used the previous html that was in the form as a whole
18:52 Jarda no
18:52 v-dogg it _populates_ your form
18:52 Jarda you have to fetch the select options in actions handleError() or in the erroview executeHtml
18:52 movvy ok, so indeed it will be required to DB dip again
18:53 movvy interesting, then how will i track if in the form they did any select boxes movements
18:53 movvy hmmm
18:53 movvy grim
18:53 movvy http://10.1.1.55/notification/addthresh
18:53 movvy oh its not going to show anything cause your not logged in
18:53 movvy hehe
18:54 Jarda it also is a ip address from your private network
18:54 movvy oh, well I guess the values are still going to get validated, I just need to display those values back into the boxes
18:54 movvy if they are validated they will be n the error view
18:55 movvy lol sorry jarda, but I believe I know what to do
18:56 movvy i see the power, my template will handle all this
18:56 movvy i just need to set my attributes
18:56 movvy awesome rock on agavi!!
18:56 Jarda yeah
18:56 movvy thanks jarda you got my brain jump started
18:57 Jarda no problem
18:57 movvy i also learned in this, how to read the fpf error a bit better
18:57 movvy and trace the html from it to the line with the error, good stuff
18:58 Jarda you might want to read this blog post by v-dogg http://blog.veikko.fi/post/75101068/agavi-tip-automatic-output-of-validation-err​ors
18:58 Jarda I'm using that on my agavi projects
19:00 movvy awesome, I will check it out!
19:00 movvy im still pretty new to developing around a framework
19:00 movvy IE making a halfway useable site
19:00 movvy ;)
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19:31 _cheerios anyone used visible uuid's in their webapps? any leaving customers on ugly urls? :)
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02:58 movvy hmm
02:58 movvy my arraylength validator does not work :(
02:59 movvy i am trying to use a select box with multiple="multiple"
03:01 movvy hmm
03:06 saracen meme="meme"
03:06 movvy hmm?
03:07 saracen Nothing. XHTML tags like that remind me of the whole "Obvious troll is obvious" meme.
03:07 movvy so what im trying to do is, there is 2 select boxes
03:08 movvy and you can move options between then (jquery)
03:08 saracen xhtml attributes*
03:08 movvy and when i submit my form all the values that are in one of the 2 select boxes
03:08 movvy i want all the values sent to the form / validator
03:08 movvy in that specific select box, is there something in HTML, or am I looking at javascript?
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08:18 _cheerios huomenta
08:18 _cheerios first day at new office \o/
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08:29 luke` Huomenta
08:29 luke` what's the deal with HMVC?
08:38 _cheerios Time magazine reported at ze office o_O
08:38 _cheerios *reporter, even
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08:42 sth Morning
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08:49 graste huomenta
09:12 graste does anyone use the AgaviReturnArrayConfigHandler with <ae:configurations> blocks merged by context/environments?
09:14 graste and does anyone have custom xml configs in use with agavi 1.0.x? need some bare bones simple XSD/XML example for the faq (with Agavi envolope namespace etc) :-)
09:15 MikeSeth not me
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09:16 graste well I've got something here, but am not sure if that is correct (at least correct enough for the FAQ) ;)
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10:37 simoncpu sth: You're Simon?
10:37 simoncpu sth: Hi evil twin! :p
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10:57 sth :)
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11:14 _cheerios r??peri... lunch prices mostly from 10e to 13e :p
11:14 _cheerios if lucky can get a soup/salad for 9e
11:14 Jarda v-dogg: how much did our pasta cost?
11:15 v-dogg 8,20EUR
11:16 v-dogg not including the capuccino doppio + mud cake :p
11:17 Jarda well, it was worth 8 euros imo
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12:03 Yossi_ Huomenta
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12:10 digitarald Huomenta
12:10 digitarald so, who is in London?
12:21 Jarda no one
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12:28 sth digitarald: David and I from Thursday :D
12:29 _cheerios enjoying sunny finland
12:29 sth I have cloudy Munich
12:29 sth Although, it was sunny Munich yesterday
12:32 ttj _cheerios: Coming to Turku?
12:34 _cheerios ttj, no plans currently.
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12:34 ttj You should. You also left way too early last year. ;)
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12:34 _cheerios idd :)
12:35 ttj ?
12:43 steffkes sth, it was not only sunny .. pure sun ;D
12:44 sth It was rather nice yesterday, I even had my balcony door open
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12:47 _cheerios ttj, true, had another party to attend that evening. good day overall, that one.
12:51 steffkes balcony door open? lol ..
12:52 sth steffkes: It must have been 6-7C yesterday
13:04 steffkes i know ;o last day on ice @ west-stadion yesterday .. seems to be more then 7° ;o
13:18 steffkes http://xkcd.com/705/
13:19 graste the image title is nice as always ;)
13:25 _cheerios :)
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13:38 Yossi_ Xylakant: Hi
13:39 Xylakant hi
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13:40 Yossi_ I have yet to get an answer on the mailing list about formating $tm->_c, it's on Digest, Vol 40, Issue 4... been a few since then... so... if you have time for that sometime, keep me in mind :)
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14:05 Xylakant right. I'll see what I can do
14:05 Xylakant I've been very busy the last couple of days
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14:15 Yossi_ Xylakant: sure, no problem... it's not like i"m paying ;)
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14:25 archtech "Patience is key to happiness"
14:25 archtech No, it's just key to procrastination.
14:25 Xylakant procrastinators unite! tomorrow!
14:25 Xylakant scnr
14:25 archtech QED
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14:30 graste :>
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16:21 hzilla_ what's this? Form Population Filter could not parse the document due to the following error:
16:21 hzilla_ [Error #27] Line 477: Entity 'nbsp' not defined
16:21 sth Did you miss the semi-colon?
16:22 Rick http://www.agavi.org/documentation/tutorial/step7/the-form-population-filter.htm​l
16:22 Rick read "The FPF and HTML Entities"
16:23 hzilla_ semi-colon there... reading
16:23 hzilla_ nuff said
16:23 Rick :)
16:25 Xylakant :)
16:25 Xylakant hey, someone else pointing at the docs
16:25 Xylakant I did something right
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16:26 hzilla_ ok how abotu this then.. if u post a form param which is the same name as a routing param, which takes precedence?
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16:28 Xylakant I'd say post but I'd have to look it up
16:28 Xylakant I think the order is routing, get, post
16:29 hzilla_ i would hope that the routing would override the post
16:30 hzilla_ i guess i can test but just wondering if there was a quick answer
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16:32 Xylakant I'm not certain, best is that you test
16:32 hzilla_ k
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16:34 Xylakant ok, quick look in the code reveals that routing should overwrite post
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16:35 hzilla_ great
16:35 Xylakant still test :)
16:35 hzilla_ yep
16:35 Xylakant please post the answer
16:38 movvy hmm
16:38 movvy i hate javascript to death
16:38 movvy how was everyone's weekend?
16:39 hzilla_ initial test indicates that routing takes precedence
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16:40 hzilla_ which is good otherwise it could lead to all sorts of trouble
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16:45 hzilla_ weekend? what's that?
16:50 Xylakant hzilla_: I heard that's what they call the two days between friday and monday
16:51 Xylakant those two that you can use for productive work since no customer calls you
16:51 graste if you're lucky, that is
16:51 graste :D
16:53 Xylakant yes, indeed
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16:54 ttj _cheerios: Immediate fooding.
16:54 _cheerios just got home. will food myself soon :)
16:54 ttj Bah.
16:54 _cheerios we should go to lunch in r??peri someday
16:54 _cheerios nice places there
16:54 hzilla_ oh that;s why i stop getting email for a couple of days. i get so much more work done
16:54 _cheerios had an ace salad today \o/
16:54 ttj Ah, but company subsidized lunch is so much cheaper..
16:55 _cheerios ... :)
16:56 ttj Fuck. The Tumi store is closing in 5 minutes.
17:05 Xylakant right, off to cologne
17:05 Xylakant cya guys
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18:27 johnutzm huomenta!
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20:09 _cheerios model refactorings suck. ate my whole Sunday.
20:09 matbtt_ :)
20:13 _cheerios went from key_len 4 (int11) to key_len 110 (varchar36). no idea how much that'll affect mysql reads+writes in the long run, but here we go...
20:14 matbtt_ ...INNODB?
20:14 _cheerios yes
20:15 matbtt_ ...don't do it!
20:15 _cheerios explain
20:16 matbtt_ ...wait
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20:21 matbtt_ ...according to O'Reilly High Performance MySQL, InnoDB works better with sequential primary keys, e.g. an auto incremented integer.
20:21 matbtt_ ...Insert of 1.000.000 records: 137 vs 180 sec
20:22 matbtt_ ...Index size for 1.000.000 records: 342 vs 544 MByte
20:22 _cheerios i've read inserts are slower due pk being random (instead of sequential like with auto_inc), long and reads will also be slower if doing full table scans.
20:23 matbtt_ ...why do you need UUIDs?
20:23 _cheerios for uniqueness of entries
20:23 matbtt_ ...in a decentralize app?
20:23 matbtt_ +d
20:24 _cheerios accomodating for writes in multiple locations while being able to work with it all.
20:25 matbtt_ ...how many different servers?
20:25 _cheerios none yet, just starting with an extensible schema so far
20:26 matbtt_ ...MySQL has UUID_SHORT... http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/miscellaneous-functions.html#function_uui​d-short
20:26 matbtt_ ...drawback is that you need access to the server ID. :(
20:32 movvy hmm
20:32 _cheerios that's ok, the mysql-call of it makes it tough (sucky orm in use)
20:32 movvy so im using a arraylenth validator, and it definatly works
20:32 movvy however when I do $rd->getParameter('arrayparam')
20:33 movvy its empty
20:35 matbtt_ which ORM?
20:36 _cheerios matbtt_, django's
20:36 movvy verys trange ;<
20:37 matbtt_ Django? Use Agavi with Doctrine 2 ;)
20:37 _cheerios i'll use my own orm in php if i'd just finish it rather than doctrine. haven't looked at 2, but v1 sucked hard.
20:38 _cheerios cleaner, faster and smaller footprint.
20:38 _cheerios just not so enterprise :)
20:38 matbtt_ ...Doctrine 2 is much better as it decouples your Domain Objects from the persistency layer.
20:39 matbtt_ ...it's also faster and lighter than Doctrine 1, which is IMHO bloated
20:41 _cheerios don't give me flashbacks on how shit doctrine is :(
20:41 _cheerios *shivers*
20:41 matbtt_ :)
20:41 matbtt_ movvy: example?
20:45 movvy what do you meam?
20:45 movvy are you looking for the validator config?
20:46 krycek_ matbtt_: do you prefer doctrine 2 over propel 1.5?
20:46 movvy that appears to work as its supposed to though, its validating and acting as expected
20:46 movvy just doesnt seemt o be any value exported
20:48 matbtt_ krycek_: I do not know Propel very good. I used it four years ago and the app is still online.
20:49 krycek_ movvy: what agavi version do you use? take a look here: http://trac.agavi.org/ticket/1189
20:51 matbtt_ krycek: Just checked their website... they are still using Active Record pattern. I don't like that. But that is just my feeling...
20:53 movvy interesting, this is custom though, its AgaviArrayLength
20:53 movvy though it seems pretty bug like
20:54 movvy http://www.pastie.org/837532
20:55 movvy it certainly is giving the results I want, there is just not value in the action
20:55 movvy http://www.pastie.org/837537
20:55 movvy var_dump is empty
20:58 movvy yeah looks like its a problem in the validaot
21:00 movvy how do I file a bug fix?
21:00 movvy the AgaviArrayLengthValidator is missing
21:00 movvy $this->export($data);
21:00 movvy at the bottom :)
21:00 movvy I added it and my code works as expected
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22:38 matbtt_ ...I need to access the user's IP address in a validator. Do I have to access it directly via $_SERVER? It looks like Agavi does not store it in RequestDataHolder.
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23:52 _cheerios meh. schema change was a ton of work. found a few bugs while doing it, some consolation. *sigh*
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00:06 impl 0.11 to 1.0?
00:09 _cheerios non-agavi related, just my own app; trying out uuid's
00:09 impl ah
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00:47 movvy hi impl
00:50 movvy boo
00:50 movvy trac tells me my ticket is spam
00:51 movvy awesome i filed my first agavi bug
00:51 movvy i feel of slight use to society
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01:03 hzilla i don't think the array length validator is supposed to export any data. it just tests if it the length is valid
01:04 hzilla once validated u can use count() etc in your app
01:04 hzilla anwyay agavi dev will respond with the definitive answer
01:13 movvy huh? well of course i need the array data
01:13 movvy where do i use count?
01:14 movvy the array is coming from a multiple select box in a post action, so i guess i wonder what other validator i could even run on it?
01:15 saracen movvy:
01:15 saracen You can chain validators
01:16 saracen You could use the arraylength one, and if it validates correctly, allow the data through via isset
01:18 saracen http://trac.agavi.org/browser/trunk/src/validator/AgaviIssetValidator.class.php
01:18 movvy same thing though, it doesnt export any data
01:19 saracen Oh wait. Correct. But-but-but
01:19 saracen It doesn't have to
01:20 saracen When a validator returns true, it allows that value through
01:20 saracen So you wouldnt even need the isset
01:20 hzilla yeh what fo u want the array length exported for>
01:20 hzilla ?
01:20 hzilla do
01:20 movvy saracen i tested ir on the array length
01:20 movvy and go look at liek String for example
01:20 movvy the validator exports :)
01:21 saracen movvy: You're still doing it wrong :D
01:21 movvy how!
01:21 movvy :)
01:22 movvy i HAVE to validate my array somehow
01:22 hzilla what do u watn to export the length for?
01:22 movvy i don't
01:22 movvy i want the values
01:22 hzilla so u using the length validator is not necessary right?
01:23 movvy well it is, because if i don't run a validator at all, then its not available in the action with $rd->getParameter
01:23 movvy i have to validate it somehow
01:23 hzilla waht is the content of the array?
01:23 movvy uuid's
01:23 hzilla there are some good example of array validation in the FAQ - have u looked at that?
01:24 saracen When a validator returns true, it allows that data through. Regardless of export() being used. The export method serves a different function. All you need to do is then use $rd->getParameter('name_of_the_select')
01:24 saracen and you'll have your array
01:25 movvy i tried and tested it
01:25 movvy doesn't work with ArrayLength
01:25 saracen paste your validation xml.
01:25 saracen In pastie or something
01:25 movvy indeed the FPF responds correctly
01:25 hzilla possibly because that validator requires a length parameter which u r not providing
01:26 hzilla the export() is simply overiding the validation so u might as well not use that at all
01:27 movvy http://www.pastie.org/837943
01:27 movvy please note i added that export in there before i changed the validator... trying to get results
01:27 movvy i believe i can just delete that now
01:29 saracen http://www.pastie.org/837945
01:29 saracen Try this
01:30 saracen required="true" is default by the way. And you don't need to give name="" unless you're going to reference it someplace
01:32 hzilla movvy: are there a limited set of values for devices? if so u can simply use an inarray validator
01:32 hzilla save u'r self a load of time and trouble and don't overengineer your solutions
01:37 saracen movvy: Know if what I gave you works?
02:28 movvy saracen, i can paste you the results in the morning, I am unfortuntaly in the middle of a paid rented rack time
02:28 movvy I am sorry
02:28 movvy im gonna try it at 1145PM USA EST time
02:28 movvy ;)
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05:04 movvy saracen: that did not work whatsoever ;)
05:05 movvy it totally messed up fpf, and it didn't validate
05:06 movvy if there is a better way to do it im all for it, but it does indeed work as expected
05:06 movvy about using the inarray, it is not a set list of anything, its is an ever changing list of uuid's
05:06 movvy I mean i could write a custom validator to go query against the uuid's i guess
05:07 movvy and export from there, but... is it relaly any different?
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05:43 Jarda movvy: still having problems with array validation?
05:43 Jarda movvy: take a look at http://blog.veikko.fi/post/68983308/agavi-tip-validation-gotchas (v-doggs blog)
05:45 Jarda movvy: if you have a select allowing multiple optios, you might want to go with <validator class="string"><arguments base="selectname[]"><argument /></arguments></validator>
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08:27 digitarald Huomenta
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08:53 graste huomenta
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09:39 _cheerios huomenta
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10:07 graste How do I test if certain (config) files deliver the expected environment-specific (production/staging/etc) content/settings in an Agavi testcase?
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10:11 Xylakant hmm
10:11 Xylakant is that really something you want to test?
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10:16 steffkes Xylakant, y not? if something goes wrong .. config files are the very first point that should be checked
10:16 Xylakant because every config change will lead to a test breakage
10:16 Xylakant tests should test behavior
10:16 Xylakant and not config values
10:17 Xylakant if you change your config values and adapt the tests accordingly
10:17 Xylakant and you have the wrong value but still believe it's right
10:17 Xylakant then your tests will pass
10:17 Xylakant all will be fine
10:17 Xylakant but still it won't work
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10:19 steffkes hm yes .. indeed .. right. check the config files != test the config files -.-
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10:32 Xylakant do you still need an answer to that question?
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11:23 digitarald Xylakant: what about a book for agavi
11:23 digitarald I'm in contact with http://www.opensourcepress.de/
11:23 Xylakant well, in general yes, we'd love to see that
11:23 digitarald for MooTools, but I would suggest an Agavi book
11:24 Xylakant would you want to write one?
11:24 digitarald but I would not write it ;)
11:24 Xylakant ah, I see
11:24 digitarald as cookbook, it could have multiple authors
11:24 Xylakant certainly, I'll try and ask some people
11:26 Xylakant a cookbook would certainly be a nice idea
11:26 digitarald I'd add my "senf" ;)
11:27 Xylakant :)
11:27 digitarald but I would not manage the book, since I just accepted the MooTools book
11:27 digitarald should I refer the guy to you?
11:28 Xylakant when do you need an answer on that?
11:28 Xylakant I'd like to discuss that with david first
11:28 digitarald I can recommend agavi whenever you want
11:28 digitarald was just an idea, since I am in contact with them anyways
11:29 digitarald bb1h, lunch
11:29 Xylakant enjoy
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12:28 digitarald back
12:55 saracen 11:25:36 < Xylakant> a cookbook would certainly be a nice idea
12:55 saracen Weird you guys should be talking about this
12:55 saracen I thought about it yesterday :)
12:57 Yossi_ the FAQ is sort of a cookbook
13:00 Yossi_ when I have a little time im going to submit some stuff I did for my project, like creating config handlers.
13:01 digitarald Yossi_: how does your handler work, more of a generic format?
13:02 digitarald I'd like to have a nested-<parameter> style (for example) handler in the default package, custom handlers consume my development time otherwise
13:02 Yossi_ I wrote a couple of config handlers for specific stuff I needed.
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13:07 Yossi_ digitarald: I wonder if you can take the Agavi config schemas and handlers and just modify them a bit, that way it won't be too much work.
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13:12 digitarald Yossi_: u can take the one for settings.xml
13:12 digitarald I usually put my stuff in there anyways, since it allows nested parameters
13:13 Yossi_ yeah for sure, I do that too, with xi:includes...
13:13 digitarald my custom settings go to settings via xinclude
13:13 Yossi_ hehe
13:13 digitarald magic of xml ;)
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13:24 graste Xylakant: I'd like to know an answer - general one would be sufficient :-)
13:24 graste sry wasn't at my pc for an answer :>
13:25 graste perhaps I just want to make certain, that the config handler gives me correct things (I'd expect) without using a system to test it
13:25 graste so config handler testing would it be?
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13:45 Yossi_ anyone know how to escape % in .po files?
13:47 _cheerios might've been (hunch) %%
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13:48 Yossi_ that's it, thanks
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14:47 Xylakant graste: you could either use the AgaviPhpUnitTestCase as base or the UnitTestcase. You can control which env to bootstrap in isolation and then have a test for each env.
14:47 graste okay, thanks :-)
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15:52 saracen /names
15:52 saracen WUT
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15:55 sth wtg!
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17:08 haji i have a table with about 6000 entries, i have to fetch all 6000 rows to generate a page. now looking for a caching solution witch caches rows or generated html in sliced form. for example give me ability to save 200 rows per cache because of memory limit. any suggestion?
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17:13 Jarda I don't belive you really need 6000 rows to show one page
17:13 Jarda if you need, you're most certainly doing someethng wrong
17:14 sth haji: I suggest using pagination
17:14 sth There's no way people will need all 6000 rows at once
17:16 haji yeah, but it's some kind of web application so needs to be really fast, so i decided to fetch all 6000 so i can cache them on client using gears or html5's data store
17:16 Jarda I still think you are doing something wrong
17:16 Jarda doing ajax-requests will be way faster
17:17 haji hmm
17:17 Jarda you can fetch 200 records, show 100 first, user hits next, you show the 100 cached and then on the background fetch 100 more
17:18 haji it's not just a list! it's a name searching ...
17:18 Jarda like autocomplete?
17:18 Jarda or a filtered list?
17:19 haji filtered list
17:19 Jarda I have not found a way to do a filtered list that would scale up nicely
17:19 Jarda when the record count is somewhere between 100-5000 it's possible
17:20 Jarda but I would still do it so, that the filtering starts only when user has typed 2-3 chars
17:20 Jarda so that you can reduce the fetch load
17:21 haji hmm, seems i should forget it & use new ajax request :)
17:22 CIA-74 david * r4427 /branches/1.0/ (CHANGELOG src/validator/AgaviBaseFileValidator.class.php): allow 'extension' parameter to be an array and perform case-insensitive comparisons against it in file validators, closes #1234 and #1235
17:22 Jarda well, that's my opinion
17:23 Jarda but I'm not that experienced in creating rich web applications
17:24 haji i have to cache ajax requests with gears or datastore, i think it will be enough fast
17:24 haji thanks :)
17:44 hzilla flex
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17:52 _cheerios hei!
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19:26 movvy hmm
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20:10 movvy Jarda: I will take a look!
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20:20 Jarda what might be wrong when fpf isn't outputting errors
20:20 Jarda and I definitely am in the error view
20:23 Jarda oh yeah, found it
20:23 Jarda it's not good to do $ro->gen(null); on login form
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20:28 v-dogg you so n00b .p
20:29 ttj Drunk walking is eight times more dangerous to you than drunk driving per mile covered.
20:33 E_mE hehehe ttj
20:34 E_mE but then could you optimise those statistic with speed comparisons, e.g. human walks 6km/h where as a car drives 60km/h
20:34 E_mE so you could say that for every KM of human walking could be as risky as every 10KM of a car driving in a drunken state :P
20:35 ttj :)
20:35 E_mE i think you should test the theroy ;D
20:36 ttj Nah. I prefer drunk riding in taxis. My preferred method of travel. :)
20:37 E_mE :)
20:37 ttj Just watched some videos of Steven Levitt on YouTube. Interesting guy.
20:38 E_mE dont know that name
20:39 E_mE ah yes, someone was telling me about the theory between abortion and crime rate
20:39 ttj Yeah, that guy.
20:43 E_mE interesting, thanks for the name ttj :)
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20:50 ttj If you're as bored as I am, Cliff Stoll is another interesting guy (e.g. http://www.ted.com/talks/clifford_stoll_on_everything.html).
20:59 _cheerios ttj, erm...
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21:00 _cheerios slightly eccentric :)
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21:01 ttj But the sheer amount of energy and enthusiasm is amazing.
21:02 ttj His Klein bottles are also cool. Thinking about ordering one for the office.
21:03 movvy awesome
21:03 movvy I officially got a job positioned opened at my company!
21:03 movvy for a developer
21:03 movvy sweet
21:04 _cheerios movvy: grats.
21:04 movvy only took 10 months :)
21:04 ttj Congrats. I'm still waiting for our HR to move and get us cleared to recruit a new guy. Not gonna happen anytime soon, I imagine.
21:04 movvy i wonder where a good place to find decent candidates are
21:04 _cheerios i heard today we got a new hot russian secretary to fill the office space some, nerd hires seem to be down, bummer!
21:04 ttj _cheerios: !!!
21:04 ttj What happened to your old model secretary?
21:05 ttj And why haven't I been invited to your offices?-)
21:05 _cheerios she's there too, she's the general secretary, this one will be my boss'es personal one
21:06 _cheerios i'll get you pics someday, we've two femmes in the office now, both totally hot
21:06 ttj I hate you.
21:06 v-dogg :D
21:13 ttj They laid off the hot Norwegian chick from our office. :(
21:13 movvy :(
21:14 movvy f3ar ;(
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21:19 v-dogg ttj: so you are coming to Turku Agile Day?
21:19 v-dogg what about horros, have you heard of him?
21:22 ttj v-dogg: Yeah, definately coming.
21:22 ttj Even bought the dinner this time around. :)
21:22 v-dogg heh
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23:53 movvy v-dogg your in turku?
23:54 movvy v-dogg we have a very big client in turku ;P
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05:37 MugeSo Huomenta
05:38 MugeSo AgaviDoctrineDatabase doesn't support Doctrine's cache, right?
05:43 MugeSo This question is incorrect. to be exact, AgaviDoctrineDatabase doesn't support Doctrine's cache configuration in database.xml, right?
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06:17 v-dogg movvy: yes I am.
06:17 v-dogg and Huomenta, too
06:18 v-dogg movvy: mind telling me who the client is?
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07:24 digitarald Huomenta
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08:48 _cheerios huomenta
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08:50 riddler Hello, after a got a new reposetory my View of the Webcam dosn't load the LayoutType 'simple'. Has someone an idea y?
08:51 riddler if i add other layouttypes to setupHtml it works but simple not
08:51 riddler i have no idea why
08:53 Xylakant show some code please
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08:55 riddler http://pastebin.org/96361
08:55 v-dogg Xylakant: happy birthday :)
08:55 v-dogg riddler: pastebin output_types.xml too, please
08:56 v-dogg and tell us the exact error message
08:56 Xylakant thanks, v-dogg
08:56 riddler main output types : http://pastebin.org/96362
08:56 v-dogg and also, what the heck is add_javascript($rq, '...
08:56 v-dogg :)
08:57 riddler no idea its from an other company
08:57 Xylakant looks fine to me
08:57 riddler and the client module outputtypes http://pastebin.org/96363
08:57 riddler 4 me 2
08:57 riddler thats the problem
08:57 riddler =)
08:58 Xylakant so what's the result and what's the expected result? do you get an error message complaining that the OT does not exist?
08:59 Xylakant and how does your setupHtml look like?
09:00 graste Happy birthday! :D
09:00 Xylakant thank you
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09:03 riddler i get no error message. it seams that the view loads the default layouttype
09:04 riddler seems
09:05 Xylakant please paste the setupHtml method, at least the relevant parts
09:07 riddler mom
09:09 riddler http://pastebin.org/96369
09:11 Xylakant seems fine to me as well
09:12 Xylakant did you clear the cache after making the change?
09:13 riddler yes
09:14 riddler hmm ok
09:14 Xylakant then I'm pretty much lost, the parts of the code that I've seen look fine
09:14 riddler hmm ok thx for the time
09:15 riddler if i find the mistake i will tell :)
09:15 Xylakant right
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10:28 MugeSo Xylakant: Happy birthday!!
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10:44 Xylakant thank you
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11:23 _cheerios ditto @Mugeso Xylakant: Happy birthday!!
11:23 Xylakant thank you as well :)
11:24 sth No cake though :(
11:27 Xylakant well, that's not true
11:27 Xylakant there are two cakes here standing on my desk
11:27 Xylakant just hop over
11:29 sth It would be easier to head over to Rischart and buy some cake and pretend it's from your birthday cake
11:31 Xylakant do so
11:31 Xylakant buy some cheesecake then
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11:50 v-dogg The Cake is a Lie: .... Scaffolding, the meta-programming method of building software applications, promises easier development and a faster time-to-market. But the \"code generation bliss\" can lead to problems later on, for instance with regard to maintainability and scalability. This sessions takes a sceptical look at frameworks such as CakePHP and Symfony.
11:50 v-dogg somebody go there and live stream that, please :)
11:50 v-dogg (IPC this spring)
11:54 graste hm :>
11:55 graste starts to develop scaffolding for agavi
11:55 graste right now!
11:55 graste <:
11:55 graste perhaps we can make it til IPC
11:56 _cheerios I have to say these my-framework-is-better-than-yours discussions are getting quite old. I'd rather see best/better practices presentations instead of nitpicking on framework features and their shortcomings.
12:14 digitarald ah, Xylakant, Happy Birthday ... no cake here, too ;)
12:14 digitarald who made the cake though?
12:16 digitarald The cake is a Spy ... mh ...
12:20 digitarald WTF do they want to give a free netbook worth 400 EUR for a 700 EUR ticket ... just make the damn ticket cheaper
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12:39 Xylakant digitarald: thank you
12:40 simoncpu My framework brings all the girls to the yard
12:40 digitarald always happy to fight in a proper flame war
12:40 simoncpu Dam right, it's better than yours
12:43 Xylakant well, asbestos suits coming up
12:46 simoncpu linux sucks
12:46 simoncpu mac os x is gay
12:47 sth ...
12:47 Seldaek digitarald: agreed, 700euro is fucking expensive
12:47 Seldaek not sure if I'll go yet, but if I do I hope I can get a good price off the netbook on ebay:p
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13:20 hzilla arg doctrine bastard
13:21 hzilla Xylakant: happy birthday :D
13:22 Xylakant thanks
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15:13 Yossi_ Huomenta
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15:30 Yossi_ Me and MikeSeth just moved to a new office
15:30 Yossi_ we can see the Mediterranean sea.
15:30 graste win :)
15:31 Yossi_ yeah, pretty nice, plus MikeSeth will be sitting right next to me, so It's much easier to bother him with questions
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15:37 mknet Helo there
15:38 mknet I got a short question concerning JSON and Agavi
15:39 mknet I want to set up an application which offers a REST kind of API
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15:39 mknet and I want to accept JSON and XML
15:39 mknet Now he question is how would you validate the incoming JSON string
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15:40 mknet like validating XML with a schema
15:40 mknet Do you have any ideas?
15:42 Xylakant mknet: nope, that's the big issue with json that it's schema-free
15:43 Xylakant there is http://json-schema.org/
15:43 Xylakant but I fear you'll have to hand-roll your implementation
15:43 Xylakant however, you could decode the incoming json in the request and then use regular agavi validation
15:44 Xylakant that would not validate a given schema but it would validate that the required data is available
15:45 mknet Yeah, that's what I thought
15:46 mknet This would mean that I decode the JSON string in the action and then access the validator(s)
15:46 mknet Is this what you thought?
15:46 Xylakant no
15:47 Xylakant you can decode the json string in the request
15:48 Xylakant you can extend AgaviWebRequest, overwrite the startup method and test whether the incoming data is json. if it is, decode it and write the decoded part back to the request data
15:48 Xylakant the action only sees the decoded parameters
15:50 mknet cool, I wondered if this would be possible - and obviously it is :-D
15:51 mknet I will just have a look at the webrequest implementation
15:51 mknet Thank you very much
15:51 Xylakant it's a bit hacky since you need to extend AgaviWebRequest and it only works nicely for json
15:51 Xylakant but in general it's a working solution
15:52 mknet i think so, too
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15:52 mknet How would you test if it's json or not?
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16:04 lippser well huomenta (:
16:04 lippser any1 here?
16:04 mknet Thanks for now
16:04 mknet bye
16:04 mknet I was here ;)
16:04 mknet bye
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16:10 Xylakant lippser: hey hey, certainly there's somebody here
16:14 lippser fine ;p
16:14 lippser i guess there's a little bug in the 1.0.2 fpf
16:15 lippser hope u didn't discuss it recently since it's my first time here
16:15 lippser buttons created with <input type="button" .... value="button" /> get rid of their value attribute after submit
16:19 v-dogg but but but..hmm..
16:20 v-dogg browser doesn't send the value so it's not simple
16:20 lippser well
16:20 lippser 1.0.1 doesn't have this issue
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16:21 v-dogg are you sure?
16:21 Xylakant there were some changes for HTML5 compat that might be in 1.0.2
16:21 lippser i'm sure
16:21 Jarda v-dogg: (buttons send always the value)
16:21 lippser (:
16:21 Xylakant I'd be surprised though
16:21 v-dogg Jarda: no, buttons in IE are sent always
16:21 Xylakant Jarda: do they? I seem to remember that some browsers don't
16:21 Jarda damn
16:21 Xylakant which is why you should not rely on them
16:22 lippser tested with ff only
16:22 Xylakant does it send the value?
16:22 graste IE is the problem
16:23 Jarda oh yeah, v-dogg has right
16:23 lippser nope does not send the value
16:23 Jarda input type="submit" works always as "expected"
16:23 lippser right, submit sends value
16:23 graste button type=submit gets inner content submitted in IE instead of value
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16:24 Xylakant anyways, you could try and revert http://trac.agavi.org/changeset/4405
16:24 Xylakant that's the only change I can think of that could cause that problem
16:24 Xylakant see http://trac.agavi.org/ticket/1213
16:27 graste http://www.mivesto.de/agavi/agavi-faq.html#validation_12 mentions the button type=submit thingy (beware, as perhaps outdated/flawed) and is most probably not related to the FPF changes anyways :-)
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16:35 lippser reverted changeset 4405 - works now
16:37 Xylakant hmm, could you open a ticket please?
16:38 lippser sure
16:39 Xylakant thank you
16:44 lippser ok ppl
16:44 lippser thanks for your time
16:45 lippser cu
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17:23 movvy hmm
17:25 Xylakant hmm what?
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17:42 hzilla marvelous
17:46 hzilla is it my imagination or is symfony a bit 'messy'
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17:49 graste <:
17:50 v-dogg hzilla: go ask #symfony
17:51 hzilla i imagine i would get a messy answer
17:51 Jarda "guys on #agavi told me to ask here if symfony is a bit 'messy'"
17:51 Jarda frameworkwars, got to love them
17:52 hzilla i think symfony is more of a zimmerframe than a framework
17:52 v-dogg :)
17:52 Jarda zend!
17:52 Jarda wait, we were talking about frameworks..
17:52 hzilla zend is more of a wheelchair
17:53 hzilla yeh best stop that and do some work
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17:53 Jarda good for handicapped people
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17:53 Jarda well, I like zend as a tool box
17:53 Jarda works great on that
17:54 Jarda s/on/as/
17:54 Jarda my english is crap
17:54 hzilla u can half fun in wheelchairs
17:54 hzilla have
17:54 hzilla i had one for a while when i broke my leg
17:55 movvy Xylakant, not much
17:55 movvy v-dogg i see from your blog your from turku
17:55 movvy we have a large customer there
17:55 v-dogg yeah, you mentioned that. can you name it? (just out of curiosity)
17:58 movvy Perkin Elmer
18:00 movvy they ahve about 800 employees in turku, but they are a global company out of boston
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18:04 nfq yo Xylakant
18:04 nfq happy birthday dude
18:04 nfq gotta love FB
18:04 Xylakant thanks
18:05 nfq I got 5 friends with birthday's today
18:05 nfq i only know this because of FB
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18:08 Xylakant hrhr
18:08 Xylakant one of the guys here in the office had his birthday today as well
18:08 Xylakant and we didn't know before
18:08 graste :D
18:08 graste bunch of programmers :p
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18:17 Xylakant right, I'll be off
18:17 Xylakant enough work for today
18:17 Xylakant see you all tomorrow
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18:36 Jarda hmm, if I do <route name="customer" pattern="^/(email:[A-Za-z0-9\@]*)" action="Customer"><route name=".foo" pattern="^/foo$" action=".Foo" /></route>
18:37 Jarda would it be "wrong" to add a routing callback to "customer" to set the customer-email as an attribute to user?
18:37 Jarda or actually as a parameter
18:37 Jarda as it is per request
18:39 Jarda actually, in this case I am calling a backend via http/xml-requests and I am switching to the customer with one request (sessions are "persistent").
18:40 Jarda so switchin to the customer in a routing callback and storing the customer information into session (user) would save me a lot of requests
18:41 Jarda as I wouldn't need to do the customer switching every request
18:41 Jarda thanks, helped me a lot!
18:41 Jarda ;)
18:45 hzilla that's an interesting email regex
18:47 Jarda well I didn't think much when writing it here
18:48 hzilla alrighty
18:49 Jarda \w+ would be just fine :)
18:50 hzilla praps
18:51 hzilla not sure why u want email in the route tho but i guess u have reasons
18:51 Jarda because email is the identification of the customer (no numerical id's or stuff)
18:51 hzilla don't they have a session already?
18:52 hzilla so the first time they call there's no other way to identify them?
18:52 Jarda no no, I can have a lot of customers
18:53 Jarda so that I could have routes like /customers/foo@bar.com/delete /customers/bar@foo.com/delete
18:53 hzilla so its more of a performance optimisation than nything else?
18:54 Jarda guess so
18:54 hzilla isn't there a security risk? like anyone could delete a customer?
18:54 Jarda no
18:54 Jarda the backend keeps track of permissions
18:54 Jarda you can only "switch" to customers you have righ to
18:55 hzilla seems fair enough then - don't see why u can't hijack the routing if that's all u need
18:55 Jarda yeah
18:55 Jarda gonna do that
18:58 hzilla i suspect its 'wrong' but then u could always change it later
19:04 saracen Jarda: I'd advise against it :)
19:05 saracen If there's rights somewhere, you must be storing the email address in some sort of database no?
19:05 saracen Why can't their be an id?
19:07 saracen I wouldn't like to have my address in a url. That sort of information can be picked up elsewhere, proxy servers, url check lists etc.
19:07 Jarda saracen: well I can't do anything about the backend
19:07 Jarda I'm just developing a html-client
19:09 Jarda saracen: so I'm not storing anything in a db
19:09 Jarda my agavi app makes xml-requests to the backend
19:10 saracen The backend is just something you're interfacing with? I take it there's some sort of login - why not create your own small database in there for doing storing an id for an email address. Your clients are known by ID. You talk to the backend using it's id (in this case, an email address). This is how it's usually done, for example if you were to create an application which uses Facebooks API etc.
19:12 Jarda saracen: I wouldn't want to duplicate data
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19:13 Jarda if not absolutely necessary
19:14 Jarda and there is no need to cache backend data for responsivity, because the client is useless without the backend
19:14 Jarda because every modification needs to go to the backend
19:15 saracen Well, the other reason to do so is you can extend the data. A lot of the time, your interface offers more functionality, something the backend doesn't support and you can't save there. This way, you can append data to a user
19:15 Jarda well, yeah. That might be true
19:15 Jarda the problem is, how to update the data
19:16 Jarda because if I take a list of "my" customers and save it to the db, I have to update the list on every listing I make from the backend
19:16 Jarda and I might end up having customers in my db that are deleted from the backend
19:17 saracen So they can login to the backend, without going through your application?
19:17 Jarda yeah
19:18 Jarda there are atleast two different clients for the backend
19:18 Jarda mine will be the third
19:19 saracen All you really have to keep in sync is a local user id, and an email address - for now. If they can change email address without using your interface and you're storing additional information - then that's the problem. You'd have to make it so they could link accounts, by using some form of authorisation. But that's the only problem you'll generally run in to. You keep in sync by having them login, if login succeeds, you create them an ID locally if one
19:20 saracen The alternative, is to just use a session id. If they login, give them a session id. Just store their email in that session
19:20 saracen But I'm assuming you can't do this for some reason?
19:21 Jarda yeah, the session id is stored in my app
19:21 saracen Why don't you just save the email address they're using to the session then?
19:23 Jarda well, the thing is. normally my routes would look like customers/1/foo, customers/2/foo, customers/3/bar and I would do thinks like $this->customerModel->delete($rd->getParameter('customerid'));
19:23 Jarda but this backend doesn't work like that. In the backend you "switch" to a customer via email
19:24 Jarda so I would like to avoid "switching" on every request
19:25 Jarda because that's an addiotonal xml-request
19:25 Jarda but yes, I could store only the customers email in session and check if it has changed and then switch
19:26 Jarda but still I need to have the emails in urls, or then map them to a local db
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21:27 matbtt_ Hi all, I have seen some you guys in the Doctrine chat as well. Did you ever get response there?
21:33 hzilla no they are lame
21:33 hzilla i'v estarted helping people cos no one else is
21:34 matbtt_ ...yeah, the only response I receive was when I found a bug in Doctrine 2.... :(
21:35 hzilla yeh they totally dropped the ball on 1.2
21:35 hzilla i'm having to hack the framework myself to get shit to work
21:36 matbtt_ ...I've heard about the 1.2
21:36 matbtt_ ...actually I have 1.1 and 2 running in a distributed app
21:39 matbtt_ ...hopefully I get it done :)
21:40 hzilla u have problems i take it?
21:41 _cheerios i use doctrine 1.x something, havent touched it in a while. how's v2 coming? any ETA yet?
21:42 matbtt_ ...conceptual question. Doctrine2 is supposed to support polymorphic association, at least it is written. However I'm not able to define it...
21:44 matbtt_ _cheerios: Somewhere I've seen the roadmap... not sure. However I gave V2 a try and I'm happy beside the documentation
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21:45 matbtt_ hzilla: I think I'll post to their dev channel :)
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21:46 _cheerios my take: if it won't work like it would in pure php, then it's botched
21:48 v-dogg ?
21:48 v-dogg what are they doing?
21:49 hzilla matbtt_ i tried also with no success
21:50 hzilla maybe u'll get better results
21:51 matbtt_ hzilla: maybe I shall feign a bug :)
21:52 hzilla if its about 2 then they will probably engage
21:52 matbtt_ v-dogg: we are just complaining about the Doctrine channels. :)
21:54 v-dogg that I understood but I was referring to _cheerios' "if it won't work like it would in pure php, then it's botched"
21:54 matbtt_ v-dogg: ah, sorry
21:54 matbtt_ my fault
22:20 movvy can i ask a question maybe its dubm
22:20 movvy is there any kind of open souirce content management system, to help allow users to change content
22:20 movvy if that makes sense, for like marketing website
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23:26 _cheerios many CMS'es out there...? never touched a single one, bar WordPress.
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02:14 CIA-74 david * r4428 /branches/1.0/samples/app/lib/routing/AgaviSampleAppLanguageRoutingCallback.clas​s.php: make sample app use Accept-Language header when no locale in URL or cookie matched
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02:33 CIA-74 david * r4429 /branches/1.0/samples/app/lib/routing/AgaviSampleAppLanguageRoutingCallback.clas​s.php: drop duplicate comment
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05:53 movvy you don't have to validate everything on a form for a single field to workright
05:53 movvy meaning that I have a ton of fields i dont ever want or care about
05:53 movvy so i dont need to put anything in the validator for them do i?
06:16 simoncpu ei guys
06:16 simoncpu do you know of companies that use agavi?
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06:28 Jarda movvy: what do you mean?
06:29 Jarda if you have a form with five inputs (foo1, foo2, foo3, foo4, foo5) and you only need the value of foo3, then you only need a validator for foo3
06:29 Jarda but you won't be able to access the values of foo1, foo2, foo4 and foo5
06:29 Jarda so I don't see the point of them being in the form :)
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08:46 _cheerios huomenta!
08:48 matbtt huomenta!
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09:41 graste huomenta
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10:22 fnordfish huomentaahhhh
10:23 _cheerios mmh, just submitted vacations email for accounting... mondays+fridays off till end of next month, after which 2 weeks off both March+April \o/
10:37 hzilla huomenta
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11:18 _cheerios printed http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshuarothhaas/3327763912/
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11:58 Yossi_ Huomenta
12:08 Yossi_ Huomenta
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12:26 Yossi_ Huomenta
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13:25 graste great victory for germany in the race to london! sth 0 : 1 dzuelke
13:27 v-dogg :)
13:27 _cheerios heh, so luftwaffe won
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14:06 J-P Is there any issues with the latest version of agavi and layouts ?
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14:07 J-P Right now, I'm using ajax to grab some content off another page
14:07 J-P and I'm getting the following exception : Message
14:07 J-P ===========
14:07 J-P Unknown layout "slot"
14:07 J-P however, my 'slot' layout is defined
14:07 J-P <output_type name="slot" exception_template="%core.agavi_dir%/exception/templates/plaintext.php">
14:08 v-dogg and it is also defined for the ajax output type?
14:11 J-P where do you mean exacly ?
14:11 Xylakant J-P: where's that layout defined?
14:11 J-P output_type.xml
14:11 Xylakant the line you posted defines an output type named "slot"
14:11 Xylakant not a layout named "slot"
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14:11 J-P http://pastie.org/842220
14:12 Xylakant I don't see a layout named slot
14:12 Xylakant except for the html output type
14:13 J-P :o
14:13 v-dogg and also, are you sure this is what you want: <output_type name="slot"
14:13 v-dogg _output_type_ ?
14:14 J-P yeah
14:14 J-P it's basically when I request content using ajax
14:14 J-P I don't want the decorator
14:14 J-P <route source="_SERVER[HTTP_ACCEPT]" output_type="slot" stop="false" pattern="application/slot" />
14:15 v-dogg but your output type "slot" doesn't have a layout named "slot"
14:16 v-dogg and there, my friend, lies the problem :)
14:16 J-P I kinda see that. However, I'm puzzled why it's looking for that layout
14:16 J-P weird but indeed
14:16 saracen Do you understand what the lines doing? It checks HTTP_ACCEPT to see the web browsers excepts "application/slot". Which it won't, because that's a made up type :D
14:16 J-P that's my problem
14:16 saracen So the route is wrong, also
14:16 saracen accepts*
14:16 J-P I add the header with mootools
14:17 saracen Oh i see. Doesn't mootools use application/json by default?
14:17 J-P not with Request.HTML
14:17 saracen I'd get rid of that name, to avoid confusion between slot layouts
14:17 saracen Or manually set it to application/json
14:17 J-P I don't want json in that case
14:17 J-P I want html without the decorator
14:18 J-P I could call that output type "naked" instead then
14:18 saracen You don't have to change the output type for that, just change the layout
14:19 J-P I know. I just thought it's cleaner to create an output type, instead of looking for a special header in setupHtml then forcing a different layout
14:19 J-P and handle it with a routing rule
14:22 J-P is it ?
14:25 saracen You wouldn't have to look for a special header. If you gave that route a name (the one that checks the http_accept source), you could just check to see whether that route was matched. But I don't know, last time we discussed this, everybody else wanted to create an output_type for things I didnt :)
14:26 saracen I like output_types being the definition of the content I'm returning (json (not ajax), html, xml etc.)
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14:33 J-P it's possible to force a layout using only a route ?
14:33 J-P instead of an output type
14:33 hzilla J-P: does that view always return a slot or does it sometimes need a decorator?
14:40 J-P not always
14:40 J-P only sometime
14:40 J-P let's say I'm thinking about refreshing only a piece of a page
14:41 J-P with ajax of course
14:41 J-P I load the page with ajax, extract the piece I want to refresh and replace it
14:41 J-P in that case, I don't want the decorator to run
14:42 hzilla yeh if it were always a slot u could just always call teh slot layout in your view and you would get your fragment
14:42 J-P but its not
14:42 hzilla precisely
14:43 hzilla i'm not sure but a url param sounds easier than a custom http header
14:43 hzilla then just do a loadlayout() in teh view based on that
14:44 J-P actually with Mootool it's easier to add a custom header
14:45 hzilla well then what's the prob?
14:45 hzilla u r calling setupHtml which is loading the decorator?
14:45 J-P I used to do it that way
14:46 J-P but like I said, I thought it was cleaner to use a route and force an output type
14:46 hzilla your output type is html so u should prbably stick with that and use loadlayout to select the slot layout which is apparently missing
14:48 hzilla using teh custom header is throwing u off because u want to select layout in the route
14:51 hzilla i guess u could set a named route param on the header in the route and swtich on that in the view
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15:07 digitarald Huomenta
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15:24 J-P Is there any documentation about validating a header (for all actions)
15:29 Xylakant J-P: it's the same as for any parameter, just use source="headers"
15:29 J-P thnx
15:29 Xylakant might also be source="HEADERS", I'm not certain about the casing atm
15:30 Xylakant and if you need it validated in all actions you might just place it in app/config/validators.xml
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15:31 graste http://www.mivesto.de/agavi/agavi-faq.html#general_11 and http://www.mivesto.de/agavi/agavi-faq.html#validation_18
15:32 graste may help
15:33 sth saracen: ping?
15:34 saracen sth: ping!
15:34 saracen err
15:34 saracen o.
15:35 sth saracen: Coming to London tomorrow?
15:35 saracen No =(
15:36 sth Why not?
15:36 saracen I'm antisocial. Plus, the Agavi shirt you got me makes me look fat.
15:36 sth david and I flew over especially.
15:37 sth You don't have to wear the shirt
15:37 saracen Haha, I know :P
15:37 saracen But still
15:37 sth C'mon... train + conf is like ?130
15:38 saracen Even if I wanted to, which I don't (PHP geeks calling other PHP geeks criminal!) I still can't
15:39 sth You suck.
15:39 saracen Yeah, I know =(
15:40 nfq yo steffkes
15:40 nfq sth:
15:40 graste you could be there blaming others
15:40 sth hey nfq
15:41 nfq hey dude.. having fun being back home?
15:41 nfq I'd love to have come
15:41 nfq but I am sick in bed
15:41 nfq sucks
15:41 graste or calling other frameworks bollocks
15:41 sth Between David moaning and using the tube, yes :D
15:41 graste and fight with others after that
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15:41 nfq haha
15:41 nfq sth: when you wanna chat?
15:41 sth I can do it now if we only use text
15:42 sth I'm in the apple store with David whilst he finishes a presentation
15:42 nfq he's doing a presentation at the apple store
15:42 nfq ?
15:42 nfq that's cool
15:42 sth No, he's finishing writing one here
15:42 nfq ah
15:42 nfq I see
15:43 v-dogg we souked his laptop again?-)
15:43 graste isn't it always some sort of presentation when you apple fanboys meet each other in apple stores? ^^
15:43 v-dogg haha
15:43 graste look at my iCandy here or your iEgo there
15:43 graste :D
15:46 saracen sth: Does David refer to you as his iBrit?
15:47 sth No
15:47 saracen =(
15:47 graste :>
15:47 graste but he most certainly runs around shouting iWon
15:48 graste #racetolondon
15:48 graste :D
15:48 sth :(
15:48 graste :\
15:53 hzilla sth what tims is david's presentation?
15:55 graste are there livestreams?
15:55 graste ^^
15:59 sth hzilla: no idea
15:59 hzilla ok what time u gonna get there?
16:00 sth talks are at 8pm apparently
16:01 hzilla ok
16:02 sth We'll be there 7ish I guess
16:02 hzilla alrigth see you later then
16:03 sth Yup :)
16:04 hzilla just realized its raining again :(
16:04 sth yeah
16:04 sth I don't have a coat either
16:04 hzilla brolly?
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16:05 sth Nope
16:06 sth I might go buy one
16:06 hzilla get an iBrella
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16:06 sth I'll use David's mac
16:06 hzilla with built in ipad
16:07 sth Stop mocking us :(
16:07 hzilla its ok i use a mac too
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16:24 v-dogg It is OK to be gay!
16:24 v-dogg I'm mean... use Mac
16:24 steffkes ;D
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16:53 Jarda v-dogg uses a mac secretly at home
16:53 sth heh
16:53 Jarda and then laughs at me @work
16:53 Jarda and pretends to be a proud win user
16:54 steffkes working toghter with an mac user .. wired people here ;D
16:54 steffkes *together
16:55 Jarda well, I use win7 at work too
16:56 Jarda and I have nothing against it
16:56 Jarda it would be kinda hard to develop C# on os x :)
16:58 Xylakant works nicely in a vm
16:58 Jarda well, I havent tried vmware fusion
16:58 Jarda but virtualbox is shit
16:59 Jarda and I guess our company can't afford buying me a mac pro, so that I could get as much performance I'm currently having
17:09 v-dogg how much would you have to pay for a mac with 4gb ram and 10krpm raid1-disks?
17:10 v-dogg oh, I guess you could use same disks + controller as you do now, right?
17:10 v-dogg or do you need iDisks and iRaidController?
17:18 Xylakant the issue is probably that you'd need to buy a mac pro for that setup
17:21 Xylakant and you can't buy 4gb ram
17:21 Xylakant it's either 3 or 6
17:22 Xylakant so you'd probably spend around 2500 - 3000 euros
17:23 v-dogg ugh..
17:23 Xylakant hard to compare though since you'll have to buy a quad-core system
17:24 Xylakant I'd love to get one of those
17:24 Xylakant they're awesome machines
17:25 v-dogg Jarda's machine has quad-core cpu
17:26 Xylakant how much did it cost?
17:28 graste my linux quadcore box at home cost less than 1000 euro :P (that's with intel SSD)
17:28 v-dogg ~500 euros + 250 (I think) for the 2 extra disks and raid-controller
17:29 graste see
17:29 graste :>
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17:32 movvy hrhr
17:32 movvy alright my last major task
17:33 movvy then I should be able tof ill out the rest of my site pretty quickly
17:33 v-dogg C Major
17:33 movvy yeah mac's are way to expensive
17:33 movvy fuck that shit
17:34 graste C Senór
17:34 graste they're not that bad
17:34 graste how often do you buy computers? :p
17:35 movvy bleh i dont see any value in a mac over a pc
17:35 movvy so spending 3 times as much for a product that isnt as good
17:35 movvy just doesnt do it for me
17:36 graste isn't as good is simply wrong :-)
17:36 graste it's different - hardware is pretty much the same
17:36 graste but more expensive
17:36 graste you'll be billed for user experience :D
17:43 saracen So you're just talking about the software?
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17:43 saracen Can't I buy the operating system for like 170 quid? So where they overcharge me would be on the hardware which is "pretty much the same"
17:44 Xylakant graste: no, you're being billed for a tested subset of hardware that's rigorously tested to integrate with the software
17:44 Xylakant actually, the hardware found in apple computers is pretty expensive if you buy it standalone
17:45 saracen Like what?
17:46 Xylakant try to buy a laptop comparable to a macbook pro and you'll see little price difference
17:46 graste that's right
17:46 graste 2.5ghz are not that common in pcs
17:47 graste or whatever the number is atm
17:47 graste ^^
17:47 Xylakant 2.93 is the top of the line i thing
17:47 Xylakant -g +k
17:47 graste looked that up a few weeks ago
17:47 graste i c
17:47 saracen Xylakant: So things I can replace in a laptop... memory and hard disc, pretty much?
17:47 Xylakant mine still is at 2.53
17:47 graste ought to be enough :p
17:47 Xylakant yes, it is
17:48 Xylakant the faster ones tend to run hot
17:48 Xylakant there's more advantages of a macbook over a cheap laptop
17:48 nfq just read up on the conversation.. movvy where do you get the idea that macs cost 3 times as much>?
17:48 nfq I am sick of misinformation
17:48 Xylakant the cooling system is well done, fans are running quiet
17:49 Xylakant all that stuff is actually costs cash
17:49 Xylakant you can buy a comparable laptop from sony, but the vayos are not the cheapest laptops either
17:49 saracen Yeah, the build quality of the macbooks is good. I'd buy one of those over a laptop anyday (if i had the cash)
17:49 graste pretty expensive even
17:49 saracen But for desktop
17:49 saracen The price is stupid
17:49 saracen I don't care what the box looks like
17:50 Xylakant well, the mac pro is not a desktop machine
17:50 Xylakant it
17:50 nfq yeah, if you compare the hardware specs of any mac to a the same with dell, you'll pay close to the same and sometimes more
17:50 Xylakant it's made for video and graphics editing, expensive graphics cards, solid mainboard, ...
17:50 Xylakant space for 8-core cpus and 32gb ram
17:51 saracen I wanted to buy one :). But I ended up buying a camera instead :)
17:51 Xylakant you can easily spend 10k euros on such a thing
17:51 graste indeed
17:51 graste that's why I got me a core i5 740 with ubuntu :p
17:51 graste 750
17:52 saracen Argh
17:52 Xylakant yes, certainly
17:52 graste should've put 8gb of ram in it :-)
17:52 graste :\
17:52 saracen Compiling C++ is so damn slow =(
17:52 saracen I need moar cores
17:52 Xylakant but that's not comparable :)
17:52 graste yep
17:53 graste mac bashing is just to easy when you never had one or are just comparing prices for opening up spreadsheet apps :P
17:53 Xylakant certainly
17:54 v-dogg I need faster disks. that always seems to be bottle neck
17:54 Xylakant ssd FTW :)
17:54 graste !
17:55 graste never looked back or at that 200 euro again
17:55 nfq can't wait until ssd is cheaper and has more space
17:55 graste nfq it's no exchange for (external) storage
17:55 nfq right
17:55 graste but 80gb for your OS should be enough
17:55 nfq but on a MBP
17:56 graste and it's less than 200 euro now
17:56 nfq yeah
17:56 Xylakant well, you can exchange the cd drive
17:56 nfq but then I always need an external connected
17:56 Xylakant put it in an external case
17:56 nfq ah
17:56 nfq that might work
17:56 nfq either way
17:56 Xylakant it's rare that you need the cd drive nowadays
17:57 nfq true
17:57 nfq apple will soon, maybe in a year or so, mac optical drives non standard on all their portables
17:57 nfq I think
17:57 graste &
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17:58 Xylakant i doubt it's in a year or two
17:58 Xylakant people still use the drives to watch dvds etc
17:59 Xylakant and apple is still targeting the consumer market
17:59 nfq true
17:59 nfq might take longer
17:59 nfq but they'll be the first
18:00 nfq Steve Jobs has already said optical drives are old
18:05 Jarda yeah, my work computer is a quad core intel with 4G of ram and raid1 disks (10k rpm each)
18:05 Jarda and win7 really is a good operating system
18:05 Jarda there are a lot of nice usability short cuts
18:06 Jarda but at home I prefer to use my macbook pro
18:06 nfq it's still Windows
18:06 Jarda nfq: which isn't a bad thing at all
18:06 nfq I think it is a terrible thing
18:06 Jarda why is that?
18:06 nfq Windows has held back the industry for 20 years
18:06 Jarda so?
18:06 nfq and finally we are coming out of the dark ages
18:06 Jarda well, it's business
18:07 nfq yes, that doesn't mean it's a good thing
18:07 Jarda there hasn't been that much good alternatives
18:07 nfq no?
18:07 nfq give me a break
18:07 Jarda (until apple started to make intel based computers)
18:07 nfq OS X and even OS 9/8 was way better
18:07 nfq haha
18:07 nfq dude
18:07 nfq OS X was fine on the power PC
18:08 nfq I've used all types of OS's for the last 10 years
18:08 Jarda yeah, just slow as hell, as G5 did never make it to laptops
18:08 nfq and nothing compared to OS X
18:08 nfq yes
18:08 nfq slow on the G4's
18:08 nfq either way, I always came back to Mac
18:08 nfq no matter what I tried
18:08 nfq I think Windows is dirt
18:09 nfq really, they don't get anything right
18:09 Jarda win xp was usable, vista was/is a piece of shit
18:09 nfq XP was usable
18:09 nfq deffo
18:09 nfq but I want something more than usable
18:09 Jarda but win7 really is the best windows ever made
18:09 nfq I want to enjoy my work
18:09 Jarda almost compares to os x
18:09 nfq win7, yeah I'd agree
18:09 nfq I still don't enjoy using it
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18:10 Jarda the only problem is the crappy command prompt
18:10 nfq and the fact I spend like 8 hours day or more in front of this machine, if I was using win7 for this, I'd feel shit when I got hime
18:10 nfq home!
18:10 nfq the file system is still holding Windows back
18:10 Jarda what's wrong with ntfs?
18:10 nfq the fact that they still haven't introduced WinFS is stupid
18:11 nfq well, it's not just ntfs
18:11 saracen What's right with ntfs?
18:11 nfq it's the registry
18:11 nfq and all the dll bullshit that still occurs
18:11 nfq win7 still needs virus softare
18:11 nfq software
18:11 nfq and so on
18:11 nfq they don't take chances
18:12 nfq one thing I have to say about apple, with all the shit they've done
18:12 nfq the bad things I mean.. they at least take chances
18:12 nfq like, not making Snow Leopard PowerPC compatible
18:12 nfq or moving to intel
18:12 saracen Yeah, as seen recently with the iPad too
18:12 nfq or trashing OS9
18:13 saracen what a chance to release something that nobody wants
18:13 nfq saracen: haha you think?
18:13 nfq dude, you are more than wrong
18:13 nfq people will buy this in droves
18:13 nfq that much is already clear
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18:13 saracen Fanboys will buy it to complete their iCollection
18:13 Xylakant saracen: I'll get one
18:13 hzilla seen this? http://www.zazzle.co.uk/php_women_2010_large_calendar-158038689179469171
18:13 nfq me too..
18:14 nfq iPad is going to be huge
18:14 nfq it's got some things I'll miss
18:14 Xylakant not because I'm a fanboy but it's the first solid ebook reader that can also play a video
18:14 nfq but 2nd, or 3rd generation
18:14 Jarda nfq: don't get me wrong, I'm not anti apple or a windows fan. I just want to use the right tool to the task at hand
18:14 nfq Jarda: well said
18:14 nfq me too
18:14 nfq when I have to test a web app all day on Windows
18:14 nfq I come home very frustrated
18:14 nfq let me be clearer: IE
18:15 Jarda 50-80% of my work is coding C#, for that win7 with a powerfull pc is the right tool
18:15 nfq but even the Windows environment, it hurts
18:15 digitarald Xylakant: reading ebooks on backlit? come on
18:15 nfq Jarda: right, that makes sense.. you programming in .NET?
18:15 Jarda nfq: yeah, winforms+.NET
18:15 nfq digitarald: what's the problem with that?
18:15 saracen Xylakant: If you must, I suppose. I just think it could have been so much better. I don't think I'd carry one around to just watch video.
18:16 digitarald backlit vs e-ink ... reading is awesome on my kindle
18:16 Jarda the rest is coding php (minus IRC and coffee drinking)
18:16 Xylakant well, I want a device that I can take on a train that will display an ebook, play video and music and all the stuff I want when i'm travelling
18:16 nfq saracen: I'd be interested to see what you think when you play with it.. I just have the feeling it will fill a void for a certain demographic
18:16 nfq like my gran
18:16 saracen Xylakant: And when you get to your destination, you'll take out your macbook, right?
18:16 nfq digitarald: you own a kindle? you paid 500 bucks for it?
18:16 nfq out
18:16 nfq ouch!
18:16 digitarald no, I didn't ;)
18:17 Xylakant saracen: yes, I probably will
18:17 nfq lucky you
18:17 saracen I'd just watch video on my iphone
18:17 Jarda iPad might be huge if they get a big eBook library
18:17 nfq they will with time
18:17 nfq thing is, apple thought alot about it
18:17 nfq they tried everything out
18:17 nfq they didn't jut launch this thing
18:18 saracen Really?
18:18 nfq haha
18:18 nfq well
18:18 saracen I thought they looked at what they already have
18:18 saracen and made the screen bigger.
18:18 nfq people act like it's trash
18:18 nfq on some tech blogs
18:18 saracen and then took away some features
18:18 nfq saracen: you being serious?
18:18 nfq and thing is
18:18 nfq what they have is already awesome
18:18 nfq why change it
18:18 nfq but
18:18 nfq they went way deeper
18:18 nfq screen is a different aspect ratio
18:18 nfq why?
18:19 nfq cheaper LEDS?
18:19 nfq no way
18:19 saracen The only thing I'm looking forward to from the iPad is the competition. If they can push more manufactuers to create similar devices, where I can then run my own applications on... That'll be awesome
18:19 nfq they chose this size on purpose
18:19 saracen We need a buzz like we got with the eeepc
18:19 nfq I do agree with the applications thing.. I hope they somehow make it possible to run a more desktop like version if OS X
18:19 nfq at some point
18:20 saracen If it was OS X on the iPad
18:20 saracen I'd be all over it :)
18:20 nfq it is OS X
18:20 saracen I mean
18:20 nfq right
18:20 nfq got you
18:20 saracen Yeah
18:20 saracen :)
18:20 nfq sorry, I just read blogs
18:20 nfq like 'there's no OS X;
18:20 nfq I can't stand that shit
18:20 Xylakant nfq: it's not - it's Iphone-OS
18:20 nfq iPhone OS is OS X dude
18:20 Xylakant which is somewhat related to os x but it's not the same
18:20 nfq it's not the same.. but it's OS X
18:21 saracen Yeah, there needs to be some distinction. :)
18:21 nfq built from OS X and optimised for ARM
18:21 nfq and adapting the UI
18:21 saracen Well anyway. It'd have been nicer if you had more freedom with it
18:22 nfq yeah
18:22 saracen So, I'm hoping competition will fill the void
18:22 nfq I do with that too
18:22 nfq it might,. maybe some new company
18:22 nfq I doubt the usual suspects will do anything awesome
18:22 nfq I wish they would
18:22 nfq apple have only really been pushing themselves for years
18:22 nfq they could use proper outer competition
18:22 nfq that's my view anyway
18:23 nfq Like, I read this article http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2010/02/the_iphone_obse.html#more
18:23 nfq and the argument is maybe interesting
18:23 nfq but not based on reality
18:24 digitarald bye guys
18:24 saracen I see people using the iphone literally everywhere now
18:24 saracen Everybody I've had a meet up with through work, has got one
18:25 saracen 70% on my hiphop build of agavi :D
18:26 saracen I got to 89% earlier, then ran in to an error. Bet the same thing happens, then it's repeat again for agggess
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19:23 movvy hmm
19:23 movvy $populate = new AgaviParameterHolder();
19:23 movvy $populate->setParameter('foo', $bar);
19:23 movvy $this->getContext()->getRequest()->setAttribute('populate', array( 'form_id'=>$populate), 'org.agavi.filter.FormPopulationFilter');
19:24 movvy do i literally just set all of my fields individually?
19:24 movvy with setParameter?
19:29 v-dogg AgaviParameterHolder offers setParameters(array) and you can also give an array to the constructor
19:29 v-dogg BUT there is a better way
19:31 v-dogg <input name="user[Name]" /> <input name=user[Email] /> and then $populate = new AgaviParameterHolder(array('user'=>$myUserObject->toArray()));
19:31 v-dogg I use this extensively
19:41 movvy gotcha interesante
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21:10 saracen sth: ping?
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22:01 movvy saracen are you in the UK? I forget?
22:02 saracen yeah, i am
22:02 movvy London?
22:02 saracen nah :P
22:02 movvy gotcha
22:02 saracen Spalding
22:03 movvy oh wow
22:03 movvy your kinda in the middle of nowhere huh
22:03 saracen :)
22:05 movvy i need to find a fulltime guy nw
22:05 movvy now*
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00:08 saracen Can you guys vote this up if you have a github account: http://github.com/facebook/hiphop-php/issues#issue/48
00:08 saracen :)
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06:04 movvy alright, I have an exciting question for everyone! :)
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06:14 Jarda let us hear it
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06:17 v-dogg movvy: seriously, just ask
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08:53 simoncpu wee weee weeee
08:53 simoncpu huomenta weee wee weeeee
08:53 johnutzm huomenta!
08:53 graste huomenta
08:54 johnutzm so, how's the weather?
08:54 Xylakant [~Xylakant@87.79.35.60] has joined #agavi
08:54 johnutzm :D
08:58 simoncpu the weather is so fine here in the tropical paradise of Cebu, Philippines!
09:00 simoncpu johnutzm: you're in romania?
09:00 johnutzm yes
09:00 johnutzm in the foggy bucarest
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09:02 simoncpu uh... do you guys know where i can find projects that use agavi?
09:02 simoncpu i hate working on a project that use zend... i thought zend was supposed to be ok
09:02 simoncpu but the project that i'm working doesn't even have a facility for doing something like getModel()
09:02 v-dogg where did you get that idea?! :D
09:03 simoncpu so they just load all files
09:03 v-dogg ... let the framework war begin... ;)
09:03 simoncpu v-dogg: dunno... from various articles, i guess....
09:03 simoncpu maybe my teammates are just using zend incorrectly, i guess
09:04 johnutzm there's no Zend_Model :D
09:04 simoncpu there isn't?
09:04 johnutzm well you should integrate the team and use it incorrectly too
09:05 simoncpu i'm working on a project part time and i was expecting that i can just jump in to the code and immediately start working
09:05 johnutzm AFAIK,it does not
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09:06 markiv how do i get the request method from inside a view's executeHtml() method?
09:07 johnutzm a common approach is to consider Zend_Db_Table as model
09:07 v-dogg unlike Agavi, Zend doesn't seem to have even loose "project/coding/naming standards" so that you really can't just jump in and know your way around the project
09:08 simoncpu yeah... true true
09:08 v-dogg markiv: $this->getContext()->getRequest()->getMethod() (or was it getRequestMethod)
09:08 v-dogg see agavi.org/apidocs
09:09 v-dogg getMethod()
09:18 markiv thank you
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10:42 _cheerios huomenta!
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10:52 _cheerios budget for new machines at office got approved. \o/ 2-year-old laptop can finally be sent to the laptop graveyard.
10:52 _cheerios i'm thinking Apple iMac 21,5", 3,06 GHz + Ubuntu on it :)
11:19 Jarda you are weird
11:19 Jarda you get a pretty computer with a good operating system and then install an ugly crappy os on it
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11:22 digitarald Huomenta
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11:45 markiv i have an application with 3 different output types. in case of an error, i want the error view to redirect to the default module's 404 page, which contains executexml() executerss() etc methods for each output type. the only way that i was able to do this was to create executexxx methods for each output type in my error view as well, each redirecting to the 404 container. is there a way for me to define a single execute() method in my error view that handles re
11:50 Xylakant define execute();
11:51 simoncpu Jarda: i'm planning to replace my macbook with freebsd too
11:51 simoncpu because more and more applications are dropping support for mac os x 10.4
11:51 simoncpu firefox even stopped supporting it
11:53 markiv xylakant: i defined execute() but i get a message saying cannot override Cannot override final method AppBaseView::execute()
11:53 Xylakant well, but the AppBaseView is in your project
11:54 Xylakant you can decide to remove the final keyword
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12:18 _cheerios OMG, debugged for an hour a JS form submit using $$('... li').click(), where the <input/> was below the <li/>, wondering why the input-value didn't always get set...
12:19 graste ^^
12:19 graste my favorite gotcha is missing return statements somewhere in the code <:
12:21 Jarda simoncpu: well just update os x :)
12:21 simoncpu that would cost $100
12:21 simoncpu hehehe
12:21 Jarda .....
12:23 Xylakant simoncpu: snow leopard costs 29euros
12:23 Xylakant I didn't know the exchange rate was so bad for dollars
12:23 simoncpu i think it only cost that much if you upgrade from leopard
12:24 simoncpu leopard -> snow leopard 29euros
12:24 simoncpu tiger -> snow leopard = whole suite
12:24 graste that's how sw licences work usually
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12:25 Xylakant well, it says so
12:25 Xylakant however, in the german apple store, the upgrade is the only one for sale
12:26 skade the SL installer is perfectly capable to install 10.6 over 10.4
12:26 skade worked like a charm
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13:29 krycek_ does anyone have an AgaviOutletDatabase.class.php to share?
13:34 Xylakant whatever outletdatabase is
13:38 v-dogg krycek_: what is it?
13:39 krycek_ outlet? orm
13:39 krycek_ I haven't used it yet
13:44 krycek_ but I've just read that it doesn't support composite primary keys ;/
13:47 krycek_ I saw David complaining about Doctrine. What does he recommend instead?
13:47 krycek_ or is it the best choice even it's not being perfect?
13:49 _cheerios lol @ canada women's icehockey team boozing after match win at the olympics
14:06 Jarda krycek_: propel!
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14:09 krycek_ yeah, I'm reading about it right now. Looks much better than doctrine. I really liked how behaviors work.
14:10 Xylakant well, propel has it's very own set of problems and gripes
14:10 Xylakant still it's a valid choice
14:11 krycek_ can you say one or two problems?
14:11 J-P I would say Criteria has it's own limits
14:11 J-P this is basically why I switched to doctrine
14:13 krycek_ how doctrine deals with queries looks more intuitive indeed... but propel 1.5 looks better than 1.4 in that matter
14:15 Xylakant some sort of joins were very painful
14:15 Xylakant it's been a while since I worked with propel though
14:15 Xylakant 1.3 was the last version i personally used
14:15 J-P same here
14:18 krycek_ / Propel 1.5
14:18 krycek_ $articles = ArticleQuery::create()
14:18 krycek_ ->useAuthorQuery()
14:18 krycek_ ->useGroupQuery()
14:18 krycek_ ->filterByName('The Foos')
14:18 krycek_ ->endUse()
14:18 krycek_ ->endUse()
14:18 krycek_ ->find()
14:18 krycek_ not bad, hu?
14:20 v-dogg yes, the new query API is quite nice (disclaimer: I haven't tried it in real life yet but at least it looks nice compared to Criteria which can be a pain in the butt)
14:26 _cheerios nesting in query creation? hmm.
14:31 krycek_ hmm good or hmm bad?
14:33 _cheerios looks powerful, yet, i'm left wondering what it actually does :)
14:35 krycek_ http://propel.posterous.com/the-ultimate-orm-query-api-only-with-propel
14:35 krycek_ here he explains why it uses create()
14:36 _cheerios factory method due php limitations most likely
14:39 _cheerios improvement against 1.4 syntax in any case
14:40 _cheerios but far from "the ultimate" :p
14:42 Xylakant the ultimate language for dsls is ruby in any case
14:42 movvy Scorp1on
14:42 skade you have to admit that naming does look a lot like ActiveRecord in those examples
14:43 Xylakant movvy: so now we only need you to tell us which account that was the password for
14:43 movvy lol
14:43 movvy you are indeed right, that was a password
14:44 movvy so I have an idea how to go about making some SOAP based API's in agavi
14:44 movvy but what im confused about is authentication
14:49 movvy should i just include a login and pass field in every api?
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15:08 Xylakant movvy: feel free to post to the mailing list, i have to run, need to catch a train
15:08 Xylakant cu all
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12:42 Jarda hmm, if I have <validator><arguments base="foo[]"><argument>bar</argument></arguments></validator>
12:42 Jarda and that validator provides something
12:46 Jarda and I have input like foo[1][bar], foo[2][bar]
12:46 Jarda then I have a validator that depends on the first one
12:46 Jarda so the real qeustion is:
12:46 Jarda the second validator get run only in its own "array namespace"
12:47 Jarda like if foo[1][bar] is setm only depending validators on foo[1] get run?
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13:15 _cheerios huomenta
13:16 ttj Yo.
13:18 _cheerios last night was a bit fucking odd
13:18 _cheerios i went to a bar
13:18 _cheerios and it displayed FIN-USA as 0-6
13:19 _cheerios with 5mins remaining on 1st period
13:19 _cheerios luckily the party i went into the bar for wasnt for the hockey
13:21 ttj Dunno, don't really care for hockey. Or the Olympics for that matter.
13:22 ttj Had to watch the last period of the game since I was invited to a gettogether where everyone was just watching the game.
13:22 ttj Tried to compensate by playing with the dog, but it was scared of me. :(
13:23 graste jarda do you use the argument's base in your depend attribute's value?
13:23 _cheerios i thought it was the women's hockey team on ice, or something wrong with the TV :)
13:23 _cheerios heh, i watched a few mins when ordering a beer, but luckily averted the game after that
13:37 _cheerios the japanese version of curlin seems intriguing http://i.imgur.com/zHPBH.jpg [NSFW]
13:53 graste :o
13:56 ttj Haha. A school friend's site is blocked in the UAE.
13:57 ttj http://fop3.kyla.fi/~tazle/kuukunen.net.png
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14:07 graste wtf
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16:24 MikeSeth hay guise
16:25 v-dogg hai
16:25 v-dogg what's up
16:25 MikeSeth i just found out i missed the london con
16:25 MikeSeth other than this agavi is awesome:P
16:26 v-dogg so you missed a great opportunity to call people criminal :(
16:26 MikeSeth mmmhmmm
16:27 MikeSeth aye
16:27 v-dogg you could come to Turku Agile Day. I'm pretty sure there will a bunch of criminals there
16:29 MikeSeth i dont even know what that is
16:32 v-dogg http://www.turkuagileday.fi/
16:33 MikeSeth hmmmm
16:33 MikeSeth not a fan of agile voodoo tho
17:03 _cheerios MikeSeth, where's your sidekick been lately?
17:09 MikeSeth who?
17:12 _cheerios mm... marklar, was it?
17:13 MikeSeth oh
17:13 MikeSeth no idea frankly
17:15 MikeSeth hes active on his blog tho
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18:57 _cheerios hmm, google maps is really f*ked up for finland
18:57 _cheerios forgot about this. hmm, have to see what microsoft has to offer
19:02 _cheerios (context: some joker at Google decided that it's hilarious to use street names translated in swedish in Finland)
19:03 v-dogg that seems to vary from area to area
19:04 _cheerios indeed, making google maps not that usable when you want finnish results
19:05 _cheerios even the place i live in is in swedish (Alberga instead of Lepp?vaara)
19:06 _cheerios Bing Maps seems to be all in finnish, just need to figure out how to use that beast :|
19:14 Jarda hmm, I need something like <script type="text/javascript">var foo = <?php echo json_encode($array);?></script>
19:14 Jarda is this possible?
19:15 _cheerios should work fine
19:16 Jarda ok, then it's just I have no idea how to iterate over the object :)
19:17 Jarda oh, I was missing one ; from the end
19:18 Jarda but still no iterating :o
19:18 Jarda alert gives the right obj though
19:19 Jarda I should be doing a lot more javascript, I'm always rusty when I need it
19:20 _cheerios for(i in foo) print foo[i]; or with some js-framework something like foo.each() = function(i) { print i; }
19:21 _cheerios modify as needed :)
19:23 Jarda oh nice, jQuery.each(foo, function(i, val) { alert(val); });
19:23 Jarda thanks for the direction
19:24 graste :-)
19:24 Jarda thank god for firebug
19:25 Jarda I would kill myself without..
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20:15 _cheerios sweet, Welho coming out with 40/2 for 35,90e/mo
20:15 _cheerios no wonder I've had a Sonera rep calling me start of year to sign up for them for another 2 years, while upping to 24/2 for same price
20:16 _cheerios 110/5 44,90e/mo, 200/10M (!) for 54,90e... nice :D
20:23 Jarda nice prices indeed
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22:06 _cheerios facebook, yahoo, twitter auths done... finally, login+registration is such a hassle
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06:55 Jarda I was thinking of writing a password storage with agavi
06:56 Jarda and then a "facebook share" feature :)
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11:24 Yossi_ Huomenta
11:24 Yossi_ Is it possible to create a new output type layour on the fly?
11:25 v-dogg yes
11:26 v-dogg (just don't ask how :)
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11:34 Jarda how?
11:43 sth There will be methods in the classes for it
11:43 sth Which would need to be done in the action
11:45 v-dogg or view::initialize, right?
11:46 v-dogg umm.. excuse me.. but what the feck!
11:46 sth Sure, if you subclass it
11:46 v-dogg http://www.allfacebook.com/2010/02/facebook-feed-patent/
11:47 v-dogg don't you subclass view like always?-)
11:47 sth Well yes
11:47 sth Leave me alone, I've been on a drink fueled weekend so far
11:48 sth And I lost David in London :D
11:48 v-dogg haha
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12:58 digitarald Huomenta
13:09 hzilla hi are there any docs on setting up gettext translation?
13:23 hzilla like how do i put html into the translation eg. http://pastebin.com/CXVgSdpp
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16:09 Yossi_ hzilla: on your .po file put msgstr do something like "<a href='%s'>register</a>"
16:10 Yossi_ then in the template you can pass the url as a parameter $tm->_("yourmsgid",null,null,array($ro->gen('register')))
16:14 hzilla what's yourmsgid? i'm using the full text in there. so is this ok? $tm->('<a href="%s">register</a>', 'domain', null, array($ro->gen('register'))));
16:14 Yossi_ then the full text is your msgid...
16:15 hzilla right so i just have to excape the quotes and it should be ok?
16:15 hzilla and is it normal to put html in the .po file?
16:17 Yossi_ probably, although I vaguely remember that putting %s in the msgid implys something you might not want it to imply, maybe you should put in only in the msgstr
16:18 hzilla ok thanks..
16:19 Yossi_ well, sometimes it makes sense (like then bolding specific words in a paragraph), other times it can be avoided. I think it's Okay
16:20 hzilla i see. i was just thinking that perhaps translators don't want to deal with html but i guess there are editor tools that can simplify that
16:28 Yossi_ well... there are no perfect solutions for that, you give them a little guidance. in my experience, some translation agencies are used to that kind of things. best case scanario is if you can have the translator on site, or give them a copy of your project, that way they can edit the .po files with a tool like poedit (which also can auto complie to .mo file), and he can test the results on...
16:28 Yossi_ ...his PC and make sure everything makes sense.
16:31 hzilla i see..
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17:11 Yossi_ v-dogg: are you here:?
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17:11 Yossi_ sth: ?
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18:09 digitarald Huomenta
18:09 digitarald anybody here?
18:09 v-dogg nope
18:09 digitarald damn, I have no luck :(
18:09 v-dogg all quiet on the western front
18:10 digitarald anybody has an open app with an agavi custom task?
18:10 Yossi_ v-dogg: I am having some weird results trying to create new layers in the view
18:10 v-dogg as in Phing task?
18:10 digitarald I guess
18:10 v-dogg Yossi_: do tell, but I'm afraid I am not able to help you out
18:11 digitarald reading the agavi default tasks
18:12 Yossi_ ah, you seemed knowledgeable about it earlier...
18:14 Yossi_ when I do $this->appendLayer($newlayer), it wipes out the last one I added...
18:15 v-dogg Yossi_: I said "yes, you can do that" but I don't know how :)
18:15 v-dogg hence: 13:26 < v-dogg> (just don't ask how :)
18:15 Yossi_ :(
18:16 v-dogg but you are on the right track there. hopefully someone else can tell you what's wrong
18:17 Yossi_ yeah, i'll figure out... thanks
18:35 graste does something like $this->appendLayer($this->createLayer('AgaviFileTemplateLayer', 'content')); work? did you call loadLayout() after that?
18:40 graste does $this->getLayer('content') return null and you didn't use setupHtml?
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18:42 graste :\
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