Log opened Tue Dec 01 00:00:58 2009
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09:36 simoncpu huomenta dude
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10:57 mario1 yo
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13:48 Jarda form population filter isn't being my friend atm
13:49 Jarda I have (php generated) form where I have checkboxes like name="users[1][credentials][123]"
13:49 Jarda (and value="1")
13:50 Jarda I have an array I'm trying to populate where $users[1]['credentials'][123] == 1
13:50 Jarda and no checked checkboxes..
14:00 Jarda Xylakant: ping?
14:01 Xylakant yeah, can't work
14:01 Xylakant the array must be array('users[1]['credentials'][123]' => 1);
14:02 Jarda really? :(
14:03 Jarda well, actually I did $populate = new AgaviParameterHolder(); $populate->setParameter('users', $users);
14:03 Jarda and used that to populate
14:03 Jarda var_dump($populate->getParameter('users[1][credentials][1001]')); exit;
14:04 Jarda gives int(1)
14:04 Jarda but users[1][credentials][1000] doesn't get checked
14:04 Jarda *1001
14:04 Xylakant yeah, that should indeed work
14:04 Xylakant do other fields get populated?
14:04 Jarda there's only checkboxes
14:05 Jarda but lemme try
14:05 Xylakant well i guess then you're setting the population wrong
14:06 Jarda yeah, for some strange reason form population isn't working
14:07 Jarda now I really feel stupid :D
14:08 Jarda I put my id-attribute to <table>-element, not form :D
14:08 Jarda thanks for clearing my head
14:08 v-dogg points at Jarda and giggles
14:08 Jarda v-dogg: I guess you've done that yourself too..
14:08 v-dogg nah, never
14:09 Jarda form population filter should throw an exception if the form isn't around :D
14:15 impl does shoan still come here?
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14:21 Xylakant Jarda: that would be a royally bad idea
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14:26 Jarda Xylakant: that's why I had ":D" there :)
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14:27 Xylakant :)
14:28 Jarda actually, textmate should have an "office assistant"
14:28 Jarda "I noticed you put an id on the table-tag, did you mean to put it in form-tag"
14:35 sth changed the topic of #agavi to: Welcome to Agavi :: www.agavi.org :: stable: 1.0.1 :: testing: 1.0.2 RC2 :: maintenance: 0.11.8 :: svn: http://svn.agavi.org/ (use branches, not trunk) :: have a question? Just ask, and wait patiently, as patience is the key to happiness :: got no reply? use the mailing lists! :: http://ohloh.net/p/agavi :: logs: http://www.agavi.org/irclogs :: http://trac.agavi.org/wiki/IRC :: Yaaaaaarrr! :: http://is.gd/58ZGN
14:41 Xylakant thou shall not post pictures of david eating
14:41 Xylakant though I do have some awesome ones
14:44 Jarda :D
14:44 Jarda you shold post them
14:44 horros om nom nom
14:45 v-dogg om nom
14:45 v-dogg me so hungry me gonna eat long time
14:48 horros ah feck
14:48 horros just missed the bus
14:48 horros :x
14:49 sth :D
14:49 sth He did get rather annoyed about it
14:50 Yossi_ Hello
14:50 Yossi_ I want to pass validation info of a form back to the page over json, what would be the best way to go out?
14:51 Yossi_ how can I have the validators setting up the json, or the errorView accessing the validators?
14:52 Xylakant sth: oh yes, he'd get...
14:55 Xylakant Yossi_: your error view can access all validation errors
14:55 Xylakant $thos-
14:55 Xylakant $this->getContainer()->getValidationManager()->getReport() is probably the right starter
14:56 Yossi_ Thanks
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14:57 Xylakant might be getValidationReport() at the end
14:57 sth ->getMessages() would return them
14:57 sth you could return that in the executeJson
14:58 Xylakant but well, i guess you can figure that out from the api docs
14:59 Xylakant sth: getErrorMessages()
14:59 sth There we go :)
14:59 sth tbh, I'd have had to look at the apidocs if I was doing it
14:59 Xylakant yeah, so do I
14:59 Xylakant I just had a quick look
14:59 sth I can only remember about 25% of the agavi frame that I use
15:00 sth s/frame/framework/
15:00 Xylakant well, that's a part that I actually rarely use
15:00 Xylakant I know it's there
15:00 Xylakant but most needs for error messages are satisfied by the FPF
15:01 sth Very occasionally, I use the validation outside of FPF
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15:07 Yossi_ maybe FPF should have features for ajax...
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15:26 Xylakant Yossi_: Well, if you return HTML the FPF works just fine
15:26 Xylakant if you need any other response things get a bit hard
15:30 macen Yossi_: i am/was developing a form generator for the FPF with ajax support
15:31 macen maybe should of built it straight into the FPF...
15:32 Yossi_ ah nice
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15:33 Yossi_ I think using ajax is more popular then the other way around these days....
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15:35 macen yeah i would say so
15:36 sth How would FPF work with JSON?
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15:42 Xylakant Yossi_: why?
15:43 Xylakant since every decent Ajax-Enabled app should work with javascript disabled there have to be more apps that work the traditional way than apps that use ajax
15:44 Yossi_ I don't know, thats the feeling I get from browsing around, also when I build forms I usually Default to it, in the project me and sth are working on right now form backend handeling might be quite long as it also depends on a 3rd party.
15:44 saracen A lot of facebook never used to work with javascript disabled. Not sure about now. I don't have a point, just throwing it in there
15:46 Xylakant saracen: I'm talking about decent, not facebook
15:47 Yossi_ well, I think people who surf with Javascript disabled, probably get it when Javascript is necessary for them and know to turn it on... I mean they knew to turn it off in the first place - so they are somewaht aware users
15:47 impl the Web is indecent since they invented cookies
15:48 Xylakant Yossi_: people like "google crawler" etc?
15:48 Xylakant or mobile clients that lack heavyweight javascript support?
15:49 Yossi_ hmmm, when would you need to google crawler to submit forms?
15:50 Xylakant ajax is not only forms
15:50 Xylakant it's often used for pagination
15:50 Yossi_ ah I know, but I though you asked about that, anyway that's what I ment when I said I default to ajax
15:51 Yossi_ yeah google crawler is a real conern
15:51 Xylakant all I'm saying is that a good ajax-enabled website needs a solid foundation
15:51 Xylakant and that being a good website that works without js
15:52 Xylakant think about screenreaders
15:52 Xylakant think about not being able to bookmark pages since the url didn't change
15:52 Xylakant etc...
15:52 sth I could use XHR for 100 reasons other than forms
15:53 Xylakant sth: you lack creativity
15:53 Xylakant 100 reasons is at least a magnitude too low ;)
15:53 sth I could use XHR for just about anything if I really wanted to
15:53 sth Want a new div? XHR to fetch it
15:53 sth :D
15:54 Yossi_ "think about not being able to bookmark pages since the url didn't change" yeah its fucked up - but it has it's solutions if you craft them carefully...
15:55 E_mE Because you know cats are just cool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bmhjf0rKe8
15:56 Xylakant Yossi_: certainly. but it "just works" (tm) with regular form submissions
15:56 Yossi_ can't google now sniff XHR? I though they announced they do that for flash
15:57 Xylakant how are they supposed to sniff XHR?
15:57 sth E_mE: as cool as: http://de.acidcow.com/pics/20091201/picdump_97_03.jpg ?
15:57 Yossi_ Xylalkant - what works with regular form submissions?
15:57 Xylakant that the target url changes
15:58 Xylakant to sniff xhr you
15:58 Xylakant 'd need to execute javascript
15:58 E_mE sth: Yes far cooler, though that motorcyclist comes high on my coolometer :)
15:58 Xylakant major security risk, executing foreign code on your own server
16:00 Yossi_ Xylakant - I don't know ... I though I heard they sniff XHR to map flash sites a year or so back... maybe I am wrong
16:01 Yossi_ http://jqueryui.com/demos/datepicker/#inline
16:01 Yossi_ http://jqueryui.com/demos/datepicker/#default
16:01 Yossi_ samepage, diffrent url, diffrent content
16:02 Xylakant yes, certainly
16:02 Yossi_ thats a good example of an application crafted nicely to bookmark currectly while still being dynamic
16:02 Yossi_ *correctly
16:02 Xylakant I didn't say that this does not work
16:03 Yossi_ but most don't bother with it
16:05 sth Most apps do now days
16:06 Yossi_ not the nike store :/
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16:08 sth Note the "most" remark
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16:09 Yossi_ yeah I just remembered it because a friend of mine was ordering from there, for me, a couple of days ago and I could pass him the links... bahh
16:23 macen would be nice to have the FPF take away a lot of the effort of creating a form
16:23 macen i don't make forms without javascript validation
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16:57 saracen I do.
17:07 E_mE macen: FPF Doesn't create forms :/
17:08 macen dur
17:08 macen the effort of creating a form could be taken away by the FPF, as it does with server side validation
17:09 E_mE how would you style it, position the elements and so on?
17:10 macen same as you would expect if the page was refreshed
17:10 E_mE FPF domain isn't about producing forms, its about re-populating them with pre-existing data defined in the view or from an error
17:10 E_mE that makes no sense what you just said! you still need to create the form at somewhere in the development process...
17:11 E_mE tries to look for macen's light switch
17:11 macen mh yes
17:11 macen that's what i meant
17:11 macen take some of the effort away
17:11 E_mE what with, magical fairies?
17:12 macen do they charge per hour or...?
17:12 E_mE You create the form in the template, you validate the form, FPF repopulates the form on error or with pre-defined data... FPF does no more
17:13 E_mE p.s. creating error blocks of course
17:13 saracen macen: Why are you even refering to FPF for what you want? form *population* filter. What's that got to do with ajax? Run along and make your own form validation javascript filter if you want. FVJF.
17:14 macen i see your point
17:15 macen but it would obviously have to involve ajax
17:16 macen anyway..
17:16 Rendez you could prevalidate the HTML I guess with ajax, running internally the FPF within an action
17:16 Rendez it's not easy though
17:16 saracen Wasn't somebody working on something siliar to this? Something that reads your validation XML files, and produces javascript based upon the rules? Sounds ok for simple validators like numerical, string, regex etc. But when it comes to custom validators, you're probably doomed. Unless you write a javascript equivilent
17:17 Rendez unless you want to send the form by ajax and by normal REST
17:17 saracen similar*
17:17 Rendez that's what we do when required
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17:17 Rendez saracen: yep
17:17 Rendez E_mE and I spoke about this long time ago
17:18 Rendez json output with id's as keys and the error messages as values
17:18 E_mE Rendez: still have to try it sometime :)
17:18 Rendez in any case, I'm more fond of 100% PHP validation and Javascript field masking all together
17:19 saracen Maybe I just haven't done very many complex forms, but I've generally just settled for errors being reported back when the user posts the form, with FPF populating them again. It doesn't seem to cause much of a problem for the end user.
17:20 Rendez Form fields JS masking gives instant feedback to the users and avoid typing mistakes
17:20 E_mE saracen: you save users time and bandwidth i guess with JSON rules placed into the screen
17:20 E_mE but it does depend on the project i guess
17:20 saracen With the forms i've done before, I don't think it's been much of a time saver. I guess it depends on the project though
17:21 Rendez If you do that you're also tiding up both JS and PHP
17:21 Rendez depends on the needs as E_mE stated
17:21 saracen If it was heavily form based, the whole post and wait for validation would become a bit of a pain
17:21 macen i suppose it would be an action that uses the form's validators that an ajax script would make use of
17:21 Rendez more or less macen
17:22 Rendez you could create a new output_type for that specific thing
17:22 E_mE macen: well you don't ideally need to use AJAX, you place all the rulings into the page upon load
17:22 E_mE but guess it depend whether you need to check database for duplicates etc
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17:22 macen if the HTML is being validated though surely you could add in the rulings at some point?
17:26 macen anyway off i go..
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17:43 E_mE anyone got an recommended naming schemes for servers?
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17:56 Xylakant E_mE: moons of the solar system, from the inside out
17:59 sth E_mE: blackadder characters
18:14 Xylakant are there enough?
18:20 Xylakant bye, cu all tomorrow
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21:48 _cheerios fuuck. that 21.5" imac does look tempting price-wise.
21:48 ttj New Top Gear! \o/
21:50 _cheerios learning osx doesnt feel that tempting, though. :|
21:51 ttj The 27" one looks good.
21:51 ttj But you could get a decent suit for that amount of money...
21:55 _cheerios the small one is 1k euros, all-in-one. ace price.
22:03 _cheerios but no way to plug that nice intel ssd in... the suit would fare better, it'd not work either, but fit in the pocket...
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08:58 graste huomenta
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08:59 fnordfish huomentaaaaaaa
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09:11 graste ^^
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09:34 _cheerios huomenta
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10:52 mario1 yo
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12:05 sth win: http://90poe.com/prince-charles-cinema-london-every-time-you-t?utm_source=twitte​rfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+90poeLinks+%2890poe+Links%29&utm_co​ntent=Twitter
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12:41 E_mE hahahahah http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSkT5XykJzo
12:50 _cheerios :)
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13:26 MikeSeth who wants google wave invites
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13:29 Jarda no one
13:32 MikeSeth stanv
13:32 MikeSeth want a google wave invite? :P
13:35 _cheerios use wave for anything useful, mike?
13:41 MikeSeth about to start using it for internal developer conversation
13:41 MikeSeth also for flaming arab trolls ;P
13:42 sth I use it for project management
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13:44 MikeSeth yeah it's nice
13:44 MikeSeth a little heavy on js side
13:50 _cheerios "It is quite common that managers put all their eggs in
13:50 _cheerios the basket that ends up self destructing." :p
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13:52 _cheerios ive tried it once for a few chats and then the replying process was a bit tedious, finding a small yellow line/area to click on. the scroller sucks. the notifications are often wrong (says new, but its old). it's too preview/alpha for my taste.
14:06 hzilla is it possible to check if the contents of a slot are empty?
14:06 hzilla once set using layer->setSlot()
14:08 Xylakant no
14:08 Xylakant you can however execute a container yourself
14:08 Xylakant you just need to be a little careful about not losing headers and other stuff
14:09 _cheerios i asked the dev team today if we'd all switch to macs. mixed reactions :D
14:10 Xylakant you can however check that in the template, $slots['foo'] will be set, but empty
14:10 _cheerios Xylakant, does bx run all macs?
14:10 Xylakant nope
14:10 Xylakant we own a ps2
14:10 v-dogg I hear David is using Vista
14:10 v-dogg and loving it
14:11 Xylakant v-dogg: you're mistaken
14:11 hzilla ok doing an empty check in template
14:11 v-dogg :)
14:11 Xylakant he's all fluffy about windows 7
14:11 v-dogg oh
14:11 MikeSeth ubuntu 9.10 pwns windows 7 outta the water
14:11 _cheerios Xylakant, any benefits from everyone having a mac (instead of a mismatch of win, linux, osx, ...) ?
14:11 MikeSeth Irssi 0.8.12 (20071006) - http://irssi.org/
14:12 Xylakant _cheerios: macs make for a good local dev environment
14:12 Xylakant most unix/linux software runs without any issues
14:12 Xylakant there's very few things you need to look out for
14:12 _cheerios mostly looking for any benefits teamwork-wise
14:12 Xylakant no libs that are not available on windows etc
14:13 Xylakant oh, team communication happens mostly on whiteboards and stuff
14:13 hzilla hmm the execution time filter is injecting a comment string into the slot response making it not empty. any way to disable that on a per slot basis?
14:13 Xylakant would work quite as well if we'd have different computers
14:13 Xylakant hzilla: nope
14:13 Xylakant but you can switch that off
14:14 Xylakant or just disable the filter
14:14 Xylakant or render no template
14:14 Xylakant then there's really no response content
14:14 hzilla yeh i'm returning null from the error view
14:14 hzilla but its still injected
14:14 Xylakant returning null won't make it render no template
14:14 hzilla ok how that?
14:14 Xylakant $this->removeLayer('content');
14:15 hzilla ok great - i'll try that
14:15 _cheerios MikeSeth, 9.10 and Eclipse won't work anymore :| and gedit is friggin' slow to save anything.
14:15 MikeSeth _cheerios: thou art heathen
14:15 Xylakant data returned from the view's executeHtml method is set as $inner in the template
14:15 MikeSeth use emacs
14:16 hzilla says argument 1 must be a agavitemplatelayer instance
14:16 _cheerios btw. what to do to get nicer visualizations for switching between windows, ala mac, mikeseth?
14:17 Xylakant hzilla: well, guess it is $this->removeLayer($this->getLayer('nameofcontentlayer'));
14:17 MikeSeth hzilla: $this->removeLayer($this->getLayer('content'))
14:17 MikeSeth pets Xylakant
14:17 Xylakant or maybe even $this->clearLayers()
14:17 Jarda os x doesn't have visual studio :/
14:18 Xylakant Jarda: which is a major problem developing php, I agree
14:18 Xylakant windows doesn't have textmate
14:18 Xylakant nor writeroom...
14:18 MikeSeth but it has emacs.
14:18 Xylakant darn
14:19 Xylakant hzilla: I'd go for clearLayers() since that unconditionally removes all layers and works even if your view has a decorator
14:19 sth It was echo and pipes too, but you don't see people rushing to use them :)
14:19 _cheerios osx does have netbeans (good for php)
14:19 Xylakant _cheerios: isn't netbeans written in java?
14:19 _cheerios is textmate that good, or was it good like 3 years ago and its now just old?
14:20 Xylakant it's still that good
14:20 sth It's been 3 years, but it's still awesome
14:20 hzilla Xylakant: doesn't seem to have any effect
14:21 Jarda netbeans on os x is complete rubbish
14:21 Jarda crashes _all_the_time_
14:21 Xylakant removeLayers?
14:21 hzilla Jarda: java dev update 1 fixes the problem
14:21 sth I need to buy a DVI->HDMI cable
14:21 _cheerios i take it textmate doesnt do php?
14:21 hzilla XylakantL: clearLayers()
14:21 Xylakant sth: what would you need that for?
14:21 sth _cheerios: sure it does.
14:22 Xylakant hzilla: weird
14:22 sth Xylakant: To connect my macbook to the TV in my apartment
14:22 Jarda textmate is ennough when coding with my mac
14:22 sth It doesn't have a DVI port and I'm not using VGA
14:22 Xylakant you'd need a displayport-hdmi cable then
14:22 Jarda when I would need code sense, I just look from the api
14:23 Xylakant hzilla: does removeLayer() work?
14:23 Xylakant you need to call that in the slot's view
14:24 Xylakant well, if you don't want to render any response returning null from the action should also do the trick
14:24 sth I need to pick up your package from post office at some point today before they send it back
14:26 Xylakant that would be awesome
14:26 Xylakant when do they close?
14:26 hzilla Xylakant: removeLayer($this->getLayer('content')) complains that the argument is null
14:26 sth 6pm
14:26 Xylakant well, how is you content layer named
14:27 Xylakant and that package should actually contain a DP->HDMI adapter
14:27 hzilla well i use content normally for slots etc
14:27 sth Where did you order it from?
14:27 Xylakant if that's from the states, feel free to open and test it
14:27 hzilla oh am i supposed to setupHtml first?
14:27 Xylakant it's kanex adapter
14:27 Xylakant hzilla: yes, you'd need to
14:28 Xylakant hmm if you don't call setup() then no layer should be defined
14:28 Xylakant why does it render anything.
14:28 Xylakant weird
14:29 sth Xylakant: see the /notice
14:29 Xylakant seen that
14:29 Xylakant david just sent me a message
14:29 sth ah
14:30 sth That's crap, apple don't send the audio through the displayport :/
14:30 MikeSeth so um no one wants wave invites?
14:30 sth Nope
14:30 sth I seem to have a never ending supply
14:31 MikeSeth man I can't even gloat about having a beta account :<
14:31 Xylakant sth: that's why I bought the nice adapter that has digital audio in
14:31 Xylakant http://www.kanexlive.com/products/item.aspx?id=3495
14:33 sth They seem to be on back order
14:39 hzilla Xylakant: i checked to see if layers were loaded and indeed the content layer is loaded. clearing it does remove the layer but the execution filter still injects its string. The slot layout is simply a content layer. i checked the base view and it doesn't seem to be out of order
14:40 Xylakant sth: it was when I ordered
14:40 Xylakant it took like a week
14:41 Xylakant feel free to test mine
15:18 saracen Don't suppose anybody has worked on a script to convert an old agavi filesystem layout to the new one have they?
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15:32 macen saracen: "run along and do it yourself"
15:33 macen heh
15:36 saracen macen: I'm way a head of you. Lack of response pressed me to do so. I wasn't going to sit in here, bringing up random unrelated acronyms, such as FPF until I annoyed everybody.
15:36 macen saracen: point taken
15:36 sth I found a problem with the new agavi fs layout
15:36 saracen sth: You did?
15:36 sth yup
15:37 saracen what's that? =(
15:37 sth In textmate, you can press cmd+t to search for a file
15:37 sth But with the new fs layout everything is called the same damn thing
15:37 saracen haha
15:37 saracen yeah
15:37 sth "Action.php"
15:38 sth Well, Action.class.php
15:38 macen that does sound annoying...
15:38 saracen I still think the benefits of it outweigh that annoyance though. Can you script a plugin or something that specifically finds an action based upon it's path ActionName/Action.class.php
15:38 saracen ?
15:39 sth Probably
15:39 sth But why should I? :P
15:39 saracen For the above mentioned reasons :). Isn't much of an issue with me. I mean seriously, the older method was way worse for finding files
15:40 saracen Dealing with the "chaiN", validation+action+view+template was really annoying
15:43 sth cmd+t <type>
15:44 hzilla xylakant: i decided to replace the execution time filter with my own and not append the execution time if the response content is empty. sound reasonable?
15:44 saracen I don't have a mac, you insensitive clod.
15:44 sth saracen: Oh, poor you
15:44 saracen I use komodo, and it's OK - apart from being slow to navigate files =(
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16:07 Xylakant hzilla: should work just fine
16:11 hzilla k. another q. is it correct that AgaviTookkit::literalize convert a boolean false into null?
16:11 Xylakant hzilla: it shouldn't
16:12 hzilla it does
16:13 Xylakant well
16:13 Xylakant works as coded
16:13 Xylakant if($value == null) {
16:13 Xylakant // null value
16:13 Xylakant return null;
16:13 Xylakant }
16:14 Xylakant I guess that could use a '=' more
16:14 Xylakant could you be so nice and create a ticket for that?
16:14 Xylakant thanks
16:14 hzilla yeh that fixes it. will do
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16:26 fnordfish1 hm?
16:26 saracen sth: Can you remind me of where the changes have to be made to enable the new filesystem layout? =(
16:26 nfq you tried to ping me the other day? Sorry, didn't see it until much later.. you were already offline
16:26 sth In the build.xml file in the agavi/build dir
16:28 saracen sth: ty :)
16:33 E_mE sth: I understand that TM2 will allow paths to be specified for Cmd+T, so you can do Cats/Action or so
16:34 sth E_mE: Everything will be in TM2, but it's waiting for it. :)
16:34 saracen Will TM2 support Linux?
16:35 Xylakant saracen: there are no changes you need
16:35 saracen Is it default now?
16:35 Xylakant no
16:35 Xylakant but it's enabled
16:36 E_mE sth: They refuse to say when its going to be released, but it appears they've been working hard on it for the past year
16:36 saracen ?
16:36 sth E_mE: I can't see it being released before 2011 :P
16:40 saracen Ugh, no wonder my server was so slow, just remembered I've had it rendering an image for about 24 hours now
16:40 sth *golf claps*
16:40 saracen :P
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16:42 saracen http://www.fiveturns.org/render.png - I don't have time to make the umbrella more realistic =(
16:44 saracen Especially since it's just going to become a coaster for a christmas present for my friends bar. http://www.fiveturns.org/coaster.png - and be covered with text anyway, and be extremely small =(
16:46 sth The liquid looks odd
16:47 saracen That's because it is odd. If you look at the edges, they're not smooth, compared to the shape of the glass
16:47 saracen Plus, I have no idea whats going on with the lighting underneath it
16:47 saracen raytrace fail
16:47 saracen It should be darker under there, given the light is above, and the umbrella is there
16:47 saracen But I don't have time to fiddle =(
16:49 saracen When you're there, there's always a glass on the coaster anyway - so I probably shouldnt have put so much effort in to learning how to model stuff
16:49 saracen But it's the thought that counts and all that jazz
16:49 sth I hated povray
16:50 saracen Never used it. I used yafray once, but didn't really understand it. This is the first attempt at a realistic render I've ever done
16:50 saracen used luxrender
16:50 sth I made an office in povray
16:50 sth It looked fine
16:51 saracen You model in blender?
16:53 sth No
16:53 sth Povray had a 'language' to it
16:53 sth But I did some modeling in Maya
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16:57 saracen i seee
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19:37 Jarda which file uploader would you recommend for jquery?
19:37 Jarda I would go for fancy uploader but my whole site uses jquery..
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20:07 hzilla Jarda: with progress bar?
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08:44 slocum good morning! I'm trying to integrate doctrine in my agavi project. Following problem ocurs
08:45 slocum i have defined a view in my database, models for doctrine are created
08:45 slocum when I perform a query on the view, I get an doctrine error
08:46 slocum on the opposite side, when i perferm the same quere without agavi, all is ok
08:46 slocum is there any doctrine-configuration in Agavi and I can't find it?
08:47 Xylakant AFAIK we only set up the doctrine connection
08:48 Xylakant seeing the actual error message would probably help...
08:48 slocum i understand; hmmmm?
08:49 slocum Error message:
08:49 slocum Unknown record property / related component "pers_nr" on "ViewPublikation"
08:50 slocum pers_nr is a field from a table, that is not directly joined with the view
08:50 Xylakant I can't imagine where that could come from
08:52 Xylakant I haven't worked much with agavi and doctrine yet, so I'm probably not an expert in this
08:52 Xylakant are you certain you're using the same database, the same configuration and the same query when you're testing outside agavi?
08:52 slocum yes, i'm shure
08:53 slocum I think, it's a problem with the relations
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08:54 Xylakant we're certainly not messing with the relations
08:55 graste huomenta
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08:56 slocum i don't understand why this occurs only with agavi?
08:56 slocum ok, i will try to ask in #doctrine
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09:01 Xylakant slocum: there may be some setting that we trigger that changes the behavior, but I'm currently not aware of any
09:01 Xylakant and I don't have any time to poke around the code atm
09:02 slocum where can i look for this possible settings?
09:17 MikeSeth slocum: paste your adapter configuration and model sources/schema
09:17 MikeSeth I use Doctrine with Agavi all the time and it does no such thing
09:17 MikeSeth though I don't think I ever used the view facility...
09:20 slocum i have now changed my code to:
09:21 slocum $result = $q->execute(array(), Doctrine_Core::HYDRATE_ARRAY);
09:21 slocum now, the query performs well
09:21 slocum i don't understand why, but it works!!! hurra
09:30 MikeSeth slocum: probably because in your non-Agavi configuration you have the default hydration mode set to that
09:31 MikeSeth or the other way around
09:31 slocum :-o, do you know, where I can change this?
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09:33 MikeSeth frankly no idea :|
09:33 MikeSeth probabyl Doctrine_Manager::setAttribute() or something
09:33 Rendez it's easily found in the Doctrine doc
09:34 Rendez I think there's a config object
09:34 Rendez so with the Agavi adaptor for Doctrine you can setup that
09:35 Rendez let me know if you have problems and I'll look into it
09:35 Rendez I've got mine config from 3 months ago and haven't worried much about this stuff lately...
09:36 slocum i had/have the problem, how can I set
09:37 slocum in databases.xml i have set "attributes" for doctrine
09:37 slocum AUTOLOAD_TABLE_CLASSES, ATTR_VALIDATE, ATTR_AUTO_ACCESSOR_OVERRIDE
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10:00 matbtt @MikeSeth: You're using Doctrine with Agavi?
10:08 MikeSeth byep
10:08 MikeSeth err
10:08 MikeSeth yep
10:10 matbtt Do you use Doctrine Record Classes as your model or do you define your own classes?
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10:30 E_mE REALLY needs some caffine
10:39 Rendez E_mE: caffine sounds very bad
10:47 E_mE how many coffees have you had this morning already?
10:47 E_mE :P
10:48 E_mE though a pepsi bottle did just explode infront of me! meh! least i got it free :)
11:21 simoncpu i can explode pepsi through the power of php
11:21 simoncpu explode(',', 'pepsi');
11:21 simoncpu in a mood for lame jokes
11:21 E_mE why '.' ?
11:22 E_mE explode('☢', 'pepsi'); that would be more fun simoncpu ;)
11:23 simoncpu waaaah... my xterm wasn't compiled with unicode
11:23 E_mE fail!
11:24 simoncpu is that an (r) or something
11:24 simoncpu i noticed that pepsi is spelled with pep(r)si
11:24 simoncpu why not pepsi(r)?
11:24 simoncpu aha, it's now spelled with pepsi(r)
11:24 simoncpu i swear that it was spelled with pep(r)si 10 years ago
11:27 macen weirdly its a nuclear symbol
11:27 macen never seen that one
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11:28 E_mE ☣
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11:45 Rendez I've never done this with Agavi before, but I'm going to call the action Unavailable and I'd like to use a plain .html file
11:45 Rendez maybe skip the renderer and in the layout
11:45 Rendez since I won't need anything
11:45 Rendez how do I do this in output_types?
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Log opened Thu Dec 03 11:52:58 2009
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11:55 simoncpu Rendez: just use it as is
11:55 simoncpu just make a route for the .html file
11:56 Rendez I don't want to use a renderer or set any variables
11:56 Rendez because it will be quicker to load
11:56 Rendez just output a Layout with that
11:56 Rendez but dunno how to define it
11:56 simoncpu something like ^/weeeeee/([a-zA-Z0-9]*).html
11:56 Rendez I'm making this up but...
11:56 Rendez <layout name="simple">
11:56 Rendez <layer name="content">
11:56 Rendez <ae:parameter name="extension">.html</ae:parameter>
11:56 Rendez <ae:parameter name="renderer">false</ae:parameter>
11:56 Rendez </layer>
11:56 Rendez </layout>
11:57 simoncpu dunno....
11:57 simoncpu ei, i need to eat breakfast first... brb
11:57 Rendez ha
11:58 saracen I doubt there will be much of a speedup for what you're suggesting. But, from your view, you could not do setupHtml (which sets up your layers), and fopen the html file, and return the file handle from the view.
11:59 saracen Or use X ACCEL forward thing which nginx, lighttpd and apache support.
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12:00 saracen If you managed to use the X ACCEL stuff, then it'd be faster. But either way, you're not setting up a renderer, nor is PHP even parsing the file.
12:00 saracen Rendez: ^
12:01 Rendez you mean with the setupHtml approach?
12:01 Rendez maybe a setRedirect('absolute.path')
12:02 Rendez I just need something like www.mydomain.com/unavailable.html
12:03 Rendez better if it can be without the .html file attached in the path
12:03 Rendez that's why I thought in Agavi you could define a layout that can skip the renderer
12:05 Xylakant If you use fopen() and return the open file handle the contents will be returned to the client
12:05 Xylakant agavi will use the fastest method that it's aware of, including X-Sendfile on lighty
12:05 saracen Which is what he wants is it not? I might not be understanding, as I haven't slept since 8am yesterday.
12:06 saracen misunderstanding* argh
12:06 saracen oh wait
12:06 saracen no.
12:06 saracen You get it. I'm tired
12:06 saracen dies
12:06 Xylakant you cannot do that in the output_types.xml
12:06 Rendez ok
12:06 Rendez it would be nice to be able to
12:06 Xylakant however, the speedup is a bit questionable
12:07 Xylakant X-Sendfile improves a lot on large files
12:07 Xylakant it's less of a speedup on small files
12:07 Xylakant the fastest thing in that case would be to use a rewrite in your webserver if you can do so
12:08 Rendez $this->setupHtml(dirname(__FILE_) . 'templates/' . fopen('unavalable.html'));
12:08 Rendez
12:08 Rendez $this->loadLayout('simple');
12:08 Rendez
12:08 Rendez $this->getResponse()->setHttpStatusCode('503');
12:08 Rendez something like taht?
12:08 v-dogg mmm...
12:08 v-dogg reads the backlog
12:08 v-dogg probably not
12:09 v-dogg probably you want: $this->...httpstatus(503); return fopen('my_unavailable_template.html');
12:10 saracen Yeah, you don't need to setupHtml or anything. Just return the fopened html document
12:10 v-dogg setupHtml loads a layout
12:10 Rendez oh right
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12:10 _cheerios huomenta
12:12 horros Oh, I just have to mention here too; quite an impulse buy I just had.
12:12 horros I went to Sokos to get some gloves... And came out with gloves and a new jacket that set me back some 450e :O
12:12 horros (Yes, penis is still attached)
12:17 Rendez worked
12:17 Rendez thanks v-dogg
12:17 Rendez and other :)
12:17 Rendez s
12:18 _cheerios i bought gloves yesterday to replace the pair and a half of gloves i lost last week
12:18 _cheerios set me back a whole 9,95e
12:20 saracen I don't wear clothes. I'M A REAL MAN
12:20 saracen (it just doesn't get that cold)
12:20 saracen Erm
12:20 saracen I meant gloves* not clothes.
12:20 saracen Seriously lol, I need sleep, but I have to wait for a parcel =(
12:20 Rendez you seem high on caffeine or something
12:21 saracen Like you wouldnt believe
12:21 Rendez Xylakant: it's awesome that the view expects just a string
12:21 Rendez it's so flexible this way it cracks me up
12:21 saracen :D
12:21 Rendez I mean the return value
12:21 Xylakant you can actually do both: return a string and render a template
12:22 Xylakant the return value will be available in the template as $inner
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12:27 Rendez with the "content" param no?
12:27 Rendez slick
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13:05 sth saracen: It's here!
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13:08 shrink0r hey people
13:09 shrink0r AgaviTesting::bootstrap($env); will load the settings as "usual" or am I wrong?
13:10 shrink0r I'm neither getting my global nore my test-environment bound settings
13:10 shrink0r are there any known pitfalls or typical mistakes agavi-unit noobs as me like to make? ^^
13:11 Xylakant AgaviTesting::bootstrap() should bootstrap agavi just normal
13:13 saracen sth: Awesome :)
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13:17 shrink0r Xylakant: k, guess I got something in my test-dispatch file then
13:18 Xylakant are you using a custom test-dispatcher?
13:19 CIA-19 david * r4359 /branches/1.0/ (CHANGELOG bin/agavi-dist): Use printf rather than echo in bin/agavi, closes #1191
13:20 E_mE Xylakant: why not use fwrite()?
13:20 E_mE opps, david i mean
13:20 sth saracen: Comic 208 doesn't seem to be in it
13:20 sth http://xkcd.com/208/
13:21 E_mE his not here, fuggles
13:22 Xylakant E_mE: Why use fwrite for a bash output?
13:23 E_mE two ticks
13:23 Xylakant especially if you're using placeholders?
13:23 E_mE how do you mean placeholders?
13:23 E_mE what do you mean sorry
13:24 Xylakant your remark about using fwrite
13:24 Xylakant i assume it's about davids last change
13:25 E_mE ignore me :)
13:25 E_mE sorry
13:26 Xylakant only now or in the future as well?
13:26 E_mE just now :) meanie!!
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13:27 sth sets /ignore on E_mE
13:27 E_mE :'(
13:27 shrink0r Xylakant: yes I can, uhm I mean: yes I am ^^
13:28 Xylakant why?
13:28 Xylakant have you tested the default run-test.php?
13:29 E_mE Xylakant: reason i said about fwrite(), is because i remember using fwrite() to dump data to screen where as echo always waited till the end of the execution or so
13:29 E_mE but i think im wrong
13:30 Xylakant E_mE: the change is in a bash script
13:30 Xylakant using fwrite won't work
13:30 Xylakant it's not even a valid shell command
13:30 E_mE oh, sorry ... durrr
13:30 Xylakant ;)
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13:32 sth Xylakant: you have mail (both kinds)
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13:34 CIA-19 david * r4360 /branches/1.0/ (CHANGELOG src/util/AgaviToolkit.class.php): Fix #1190: AgaviToolkit::literalize incorrectly returns null for certain input values
13:36 Treffynnon I am having an annoying problem with a config handler mapping. It keeps coming up with a Configuration file "/home/dev/www/document/app/config/mailer.xml" does not have a registered handler. There is very definately a handler setup in config_handlers.xml. Can anyone hint on where to begin debugging?
13:38 shrink0r Xylakant: yeah, run-tests is ok, copied and customized it a bit to add some cfg paths.
13:38 shrink0r had a path error ^^
13:38 shrink0r my bad :S
13:41 Xylakant Treffynnon: pastie please
13:49 Treffynnon Xylakant: http://pastie.org/725474 not sure if thats what you wanted to see
13:50 Treffynnon the code is from Redracer with a few modifications
13:57 _cheerios is there a great standalone module for request dispatching (ala. routing.xml in agavi) out there? last i checked in 2008 there wasnt.
14:07 _cheerios http://blog.wolframalpha.com/2009/12/01/step-by-step-math/
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14:35 Jarda ok, giving 2G memory (total 4G) to a virtual machine is not such a good idea..
14:35 Jarda restoring the vm state takes a hell lot of time
14:43 Xylakant Treffynnon: hmm, I can't see any obvious error but try adding <ae:configuration> tags
14:52 sth The office survival guide for plants: http://twitpic.com/ryxji
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14:59 Treffynnon Xylakant: Can't believe I missed those. Its now working but it can't find my config handling class. I will keep digging through that. Guesing its not in the autoload yet. Thanks.
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16:34 hzilla hello. is it possible to grab the executed method from a view?
16:34 hzilla action method that is
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16:38 MikeSeth you mean the xxx in executeXxx()?
16:38 MikeSeth you should not do that
16:41 hzilla ok i'll see if i can change the design
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16:41 hzilla but it can happen that you want a similar view on different methods
16:41 hzilla ?
16:42 hzilla or better to use one method and a parameter to setup the view?
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16:49 MikeSeth hzilla: pass whatever you need from the action with setAttribute()
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17:05 hzilla i see
17:08 hzilla many ways to chop an onion... all of which make u cry.
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17:14 Xylakant I don't cry when chopping onions. Contact lenses help
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17:18 Treffynnon I don't cut onions I just bite on in
17:18 Treffynnon sometimes I even like to pour chili sauce on it
17:18 Treffynnon chuck norris ain't nuttin on me blah blah
17:19 hzilla chuck norris makes onions cry
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19:11 slocum hi! how can I use the configuration settings in <modul>/config/modules.xml?
19:12 Xylakant AgaviConfig::get('modules.<lowercase-modulename>.settings.<settingname>')
19:12 slocum :-o
19:12 slocum so simple? fine!
19:13 Xylakant that's from the top of my head, you might just go and var_dump(AgaviConfig::toArray())
19:13 Xylakant however, these settings are only available if the module has been initialized
19:13 Xylakant so mostly from anything that's inside that module
19:16 slocum yes; I only want configs specific to a module
19:18 Xylakant enjoy
19:18 Xylakant I'm off, going home
19:18 Xylakant cya all
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20:55 CIA-19 dominik * r4361 /branches/1.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
20:55 CIA-19 fix AgaviArrayPathDefinition::getPartsFromPath() returning the wrong result on paths starting with a zero like '0[..]'
20:55 CIA-19 closes #1189
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09:11 _cheerios huomenta
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09:18 _cheerios for the football fans http://www.lflus.com/
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09:40 simoncpu for fans of beautiful women: http://www.fhm.com/
09:43 E_mE huomenta
09:43 _cheerios for finland: http://www.hitlantis.com
09:43 E_mE for fans of cats: http://www.yourcat.co.uk/
09:44 E_mE ;)
09:44 E_mE hahaha
09:44 simoncpu i veliv ze korect vevsite for ze fanz of catz iz:
09:44 simoncpu http://icanhascheezburger.com/
09:45 E_mE :D
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10:04 slocum Good morning! how can I get the value from an <modules>/config/module.xml when I want to nest directives.
10:04 slocum Example:
10:04 slocum <setting name="authors">
10:04 slocum <ae:parameter name="joe.cool@peanuts.com">Snoopy</ae:parameter>
10:04 slocum <ae:parameter name="joe.hot@peanuts.com">Fire</ae:parameter>
10:04 slocum I know
10:04 slocum AgaviConfig::get('modules.<module_name>.<name=...') ;
10:04 slocum but how can I get a value from the array?
10:07 Jarda hmm.. modules.module.authors[joe.hot@peanuts.com] maybe?
10:07 Jarda Don't have the time to test :)
10:08 slocum ok I try it
10:12 Xylakant slocum: no need to try, that won't work
10:13 graste you should get an associative array of authors, when you do AgaviConfig::get('modules.lowercase_module_name.authors');
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10:14 graste perhaps I should state it more clearly in http://www.mivesto.de/agavi/agavi-faq.html#general_9
10:15 graste you access the settings directly by name and get sub-parameters as an array
10:16 graste if I'm remembering it correctly :)
10:19 sth Win: "This is an optional value, but it's required"E
10:19 sth -E
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10:34 macen lol
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10:54 slocum is it possible to have in module.xml more then one <ae:configuration>?
10:54 slocum like the example in http://www.mivesto.de/agavi/agavi-faq.html#general_9
10:55 Jarda of course
10:55 slocum O! then I must try it again - before I get errors
10:56 Jarda well I can't see why it wouldn't work similar as other conf files
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10:56 slocum yes
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10:58 xboy Hi
10:59 xboy i was wondering if there's anyway to pass a url to routing manually, and get the info about that url back, like the module name , action name and parameters....?
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11:02 Jarda where do you need that?
11:04 xboy i have a comment module, that can be used as a slot in other modules
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11:05 xboy and i put the current url in the hidden element in the comment form,
11:05 xboy so when the user add a comment, i use that url to redirect back the user to the original url that comment submitted from
11:06 Xylakant just use that url and do a redirect
11:07 xboy but if there's a validation error in comment form, there's another situation that i should use createForwardContainer according to this topic that Daivd said and it's so helpful
11:07 xboy http://www.mail-archive.com/users@lists.agavi.org/msg00584.html
11:07 Xylakant however, you have to validate that url very very strict
11:08 Xylakant yeah, that's true
11:08 Xylakant hang on, let me check
11:08 xboy thanks
11:09 Xylakant you can't
11:09 Xylakant routing::execute operates on the request data
11:10 Xylakant you can't just go call it
11:10 xboy hmm...
11:10 Xylakant that's a tad unfortunate
11:10 xboy but what about the validation report...
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11:11 Xylakant hmm?
11:11 Xylakant what about it?
11:13 xboy i mean, when there's a validation error, i need to send the validation report to next execution container so that FPF can use it to show the errors in the comment form.
11:14 xboy and there, i need moduleName, actionName.... seperately...
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11:16 Xylakant yes, but that is a problem completely unrelated to the validation report
11:16 Treffynnon hi. I am trying to use a prefix on a collection of settings.xml values but when I try to request them back they are coming back null. Please see: http://pastie.org/727175
11:17 Xylakant Treffynnon: yes, you're requesting the wrong setting name
11:17 Xylakant your prefix is 'app.email'
11:17 Xylakant and you
11:17 Xylakant 're asking for 'core.app.email'
11:18 Xylakant try AgaviConfig::get('app.email.address');
11:18 Xylakant 'core
11:18 Xylakant is the implied prefix for all settings that don't have an explicit prefix set
11:18 Treffynnon Xylakant: Oh I see so setting the prefix overrides the normal prefix of core.
11:18 Xylakant indeed
11:19 xboy Xylakant: sorry, but i didn't get it...
11:19 Xylakant xboy: your problem is figuring out where to forward to
11:19 xboy yes
11:19 Xylakant passing on the result of the validation is not a problem related to that
11:20 E_mE hahaha http://i.imgur.com/CQ9Lb.png
11:20 Xylakant and I fear that I don't see any easy solution
11:20 Xylakant except passing the target in the form
11:20 Jarda slots are evil
11:20 Treffynnon Xylakant: thanks for the tip
11:20 Xylakant however, that's dangerous since anybody could feed you an arbitrary value to forward to
11:20 Xylakant and you wouldn't want that
11:21 Xylakant people could call slots that they're not supposed to
11:21 xboy yes
11:22 xboy right
11:22 Xylakant the best idea i have is to have a mapping of target urls to actions/modules
11:22 Xylakant that is a pita though, because every time you use the slot you'll have to add another item to that list
11:23 Xylakant making that integration a bit bumpy
11:23 Xylakant that's the only idea I have right now
11:23 Xylakant feel free to post that question to the mailing list though, maybe someone has an idea of how to solve that
11:24 xboy sure, anyway thanks for your time
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11:37 krycek_ i dont know if it's a bug but when using <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">;, FPF somehow includes html code that is not interpreted by the browser ater an empty textarea
11:38 krycek_ replacing it by <!doctype HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">; solves the problem
11:39 graste hm
11:40 graste $xhtml = (preg_match('/<!DOCTYPE[^>]+XHTML[^>]+/', $output) > 0 && strtolower($cfg['force_output_mode']) != 'html') || strtolower($cfg['force_output_mode']) == 'xhtml';
11:40 graste you could try the "parse_xhtml_as_xml" parameter though
11:40 graste that line above is from the FPF
11:41 sth Never parse html/xhtml with regex.
11:41 sth Every time you do it, a kitten is killed.
11:41 graste sth: "graste: that line above is from the FPF" :P
11:41 sth oh.
11:41 sth But this is the next kitten to be killed: http://www.todaysbigthing.com/2009/11/30
11:41 graste :>
11:44 graste n1
11:45 krycek_ graste: i'm ok with the other doctype, i wont use xhtml anymore... just said that in case someone wants to add a warning in the docs or something like that
11:46 graste yeah, okay - that's Xylakant's job, I'd say :D
11:51 _cheerios CUPCAKE ON THE TABLE
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13:00 krycek_ FPF says that I have a duplicated ID, but just in the server. What could it be? I'm testing with the same data here and not getting the error
13:00 Xylakant sth: we don't kill kittens, be not afraid. We're using the regexp only to determine if the doctype indicates xml or html
13:01 Xylakant krycek_: feed your page to an html validator, that should point out the duplicate id
13:04 krycek_ the thing is, FPF says what id is duplicated and FPF logs all the response html when the error occours... but there is no duplicate id in the html from the logs
13:05 Xylakant I'd be interested in seeing that html code
13:05 Xylakant and the error message
13:05 digitarald| krycek_: do u log the error, it should dumb the response-content
13:06 digitarald| oh, u just said that, I was too fast :D
13:06 digitarald| do u have name attributes that mirror the id attribute?
13:06 Xylakant that's what I'm guessing
13:06 Xylakant since they are both treated as ID in html
13:08 digitarald| what will happen with FPF and HTML5?
13:08 krycek_ http://pastebin.com/m31bb4ab3
13:08 krycek_ as you can see, there is users and users_... but that shouldn't be a problem
13:09 Xylakant <input name="users_" id="users_" type="hidden" value=""/>
13:09 Xylakant id and name are both id in html
13:09 Xylakant yeah, that sucks
13:09 Xylakant but it is
13:09 digitarald| prepend ids like "fe-users_"
13:09 digitarald| thats the David-way :)
13:10 krycek_ i'm ok removeing the name att then?
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13:10 Xylakant no
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13:10 digitarald no, just give different values
13:10 Xylakant and remove the pastie when you're done
13:10 Xylakant it contains cleartext email addresses
13:10 digitarald like prepending a value to the id value
13:11 krycek_ ok, thanks
13:11 digitarald de donde eres?
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13:11 Xylakant as to why this occurs in production and not in dev: you might have "ignore_parse_error" enabled
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13:13 krycek_ no, it's the same FPF configuration for both
13:13 Xylakant hmm
13:15 krycek_ grrr, i didn't mark the checkbox... i cant remove the pastebin now ;|
13:16 Xylakant just update it with something weird
13:23 krycek_ <parameter name="ignore_parse_error"><parameter>true</parameter></parameter>
13:23 krycek_ is that right?
13:28 krycek_ it has every field with id and name the same... why does it complain just with that one?
13:29 krycek_ remove that textarea and everything works
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13:48 graste <parameter name="ignore_parse_errors">true</parameter>
13:48 graste for parameters see: http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/1.0/src/filter/AgaviFormPopulationFilter.​class.php#L887
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14:39 simoncpu_ damn, this self-imposed celibacy is taking a toll on me
14:39 simoncpu_ i'm about to go insane
14:40 graste <:
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14:42 saracen Guess he's gone for a wank.
14:54 sth heh
14:56 Xylakant krycek_: ignore_parse_errors is something you should handle with care
14:56 Xylakant it will keep agavi from throwing the error
14:56 Xylakant however, FPF will not populate the form if it encounters a parse error
14:56 Xylakant it will just silently continue
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15:25 krycek_ Xylakant: thanks... it is something just for now, until I manage to change the code
15:25 Xylakant yeah, just wanted to warn you about that
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18:04 Yossi_ Huomenta
18:10 Yossi_ Anyone knows how can I get a subset of configuration file into an array... like a certain settings prefix and it children from settings.xml?
18:26 hzilla u can take a look at AgaviConfig::get();
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18:48 Yossi_ hzilla - get(); would only get one directive's value, I need the children of the directive
19:27 Jarda Yossi_: look at AgaviConfig::toArray()
19:27 Jarda I think it is possible to get an array of values when using get() on the parent
19:30 Yossi_ yeah toArray is possible - but it transforms all the config files to array, which is kind of an overkill...
19:30 Yossi_ and get() doesn't return an array when using it on the parent... checked that...
19:31 Yossi_ anyway, I just defined some stuff in a model instead of settings.xml for now
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19:40 Jarda Yossi_: I'm almost certain calling AgaviConfig::get('com.myapp.MyArray'); will result an associative array on this: http://pastebin.com/m2304aa0f
19:41 Jarda of course replace <ae:parameter> with <ae:parameters>
19:41 Jarda but you get the point
19:41 Yossi_ let me try that again
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19:48 Yossi_ wait my mistake maybe
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19:49 Yossi_ Jarda - yeah it works, my xml syntex was wrong in the first place... I used <settings> for the values instead of <parameter>
19:49 Yossi_ Thanks
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20:25 Jarda no problem
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18:27 _cheerios huomenta
18:29 ttj Yo.
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08:58 graste huomenta
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09:46 sth Morning
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10:27 Yossi_ Huomenta
10:29 Yossi_ Huomenta
10:30 Yossi_ Anyone knows how I can generate a list of countries and countrycodes in agavi? I see there is method generateCountryList() in the translation manager, but its protected
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10:35 Xylakant good morning
10:36 sth Morning
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11:04 saracen sup
11:04 sth Hey
11:08 Jarda Yossi_: http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/1.0/src/translation/AgaviLocale.class.php​#L206
11:09 Jarda but beware, it returns countries like "East-Germany" etc
11:10 sth East Germany is a valid country.
11:10 Yossi_ why is that?
11:11 sth Because in case you decide your app wants to time travel to 1980
11:11 Jarda (or you want to list possible countries where someone is born in)
11:11 Yossi_ bah
11:11 Jarda but the generated list is quite funny
11:12 Yossi_ Yeah I get that... guess I will write my own Aeeay...
11:12 Yossi_ array
11:12 Jarda Dunno if there's a way to filter it somehow
11:12 sth A flag would be nice
11:12 saracen Check out the XML data
11:13 saracen might give a clue as to if there is
11:13 sth getCountries($onlyGetContriesThatExistRightNow = true) :P
11:14 Jarda the list is useful if used as a backend for a JS-autocomplete
11:14 Jarda imo
11:14 Jarda so you start writing "Fi" and it offers you Finland as a dropdown
11:15 saracen getCountries($decentOnes = true) unset($countries['de']); return $countries;
11:20 sth saracen: Write a patch and I'll commit it :)
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11:25 Xylakant Yossi_: AgaviLocale returns contries that are officially acknowledged. There's a bit a debate on what's a country and what not, for example tibet and taiwan
11:25 Xylakant it's not that easy
11:25 Xylakant and eastern germany may be a valid choice for countries not only in a time travel scenario
11:25 Xylakant for example "Where were you born?"
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11:30 saracen sth: If only agavi accepted joke commits =(. I suppose we'll just have to make do with impls phing comments =(
11:31 sth saracen: We can change that if kaos doesn't revoke my svn access :P
11:31 saracen I think I still have svn access too
11:32 saracen sth: We should start replacing agavi with symfony or cake, to see how long it takes wombert to notice.
11:32 sth haha
11:32 sth I'd probably get fired
11:32 saracen Nah, "I did it for the lulz" is a surely a valid excuse which would prevent you from being fired
11:33 saracen Take it to the union!
11:33 sth I get away with a fair bit as it is
11:33 sth Like the office plant care system
11:33 saracen hmm?
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11:34 sth I'll take a picture
11:34 saracen lol, kk
11:35 sth http://localhostr.com/files/243492/photo.jpg
11:35 saracen sth: We should collaborate on a book. 100 Facts about Agavi.
11:35 sth None are true.
11:35 sth Like the panda book
11:36 saracen Yeah, thats what I'm refering to :)
11:36 saracen Take it you saw it on nevermind the buzzcocks too?
11:36 sth yup
11:36 sth I watch iPlayer here
11:36 saracen Ah, legend
11:36 sth I love the playlive feature
11:36 saracen lol @ plant care
11:37 saracen You should make that in to an officially printed sign
11:39 saracen sth: I think you should make something for the agavi office
11:39 saracen http://www.agavi.org/images/home/plant.png - Make a real model of this. Then decorate it in christmas decorations
11:40 sth I've not thought about moving into sculpture
11:40 saracen dooo it
11:41 saracen Also, what was it you broke recently, something on your notebook or something? I remember searching for the name and they had some cool products
11:41 saracen wanna find the website again
11:41 sth moleskine
11:41 saracen ty :)
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11:42 saracen Why are they so awesome?
11:44 sth Really well made
11:44 sth Quality paper
11:45 saracen Might get the diary for my girlfriend
11:45 sth And it has a pocket in it for storing stuff
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11:48 Treffynnon hi. I have just had a strange template parsing problem. The FPF bawked on the &ge; (greater than or equal symbol) entity. Thought this was a valid entity - am I wrong?
11:48 sth Isn't > = &gt;
11:49 sth Oh, ≥
11:49 Treffynnon I am using the number for it at the moment &#8805;
11:49 Treffynnon sth: yeah the second one
11:50 saracen ordered pocket dirary :)
11:50 Xylakant Treffynnon: It's only valid in html and not in xhtml
11:50 Xylakant you'd need to specify the character entities in the dtd
11:50 Xylakant you can actually load that dtd, but the recommended way is using numeric entities or the actual utf-8 char
11:51 sth saracen: I have moleskines from 3 different countries
11:51 Xylakant you'll hit the same problem with &copy;
11:51 sth I have English, German and Italian :)
11:51 saracen cool :)
11:51 Jarda Xylakant: and nbsp
11:51 saracen I'd get myself one, but I know I probably wouldnt use it =(
11:51 Xylakant sth: how do you use an italian moleskine? You can't even read italian, let alone write it
11:52 Xylakant Jarda: right, yes
11:52 sth Xylakant: You drive badly and throw pasta on it
11:52 saracen lol
11:52 Xylakant the only valid character entities in bare xml are &amp; &lt; &gt;
11:52 Xylakant &quot;
11:52 Treffynnon Xylakant: Ok thanks. I was using UTF-8 but the designer is using Dreamweaver and it must have converted it. Then he uploaded it to the live site and the login crashed :(
11:52 Jarda I have done it a million times (at least in the beginning of my agavi learning), used <th>&nbsp;</th> and agavi has complained :)
11:53 Xylakant yeah, not an uncommon mistake actually
11:53 Jarda never ever let designers have access a) to svn b) production server
11:54 Jarda Xylakant: and textmate inserts &nbsp; quite easily without me noticing
11:54 Jarda alt+space
11:55 Treffynnon Jarda: agreed. not much you can do if they are more senior though! :)
11:55 Xylakant Jarda: yes, probably. I rarely use nonbreaking spaces though
11:55 Xylakant and since that's a bundle you could quite easily change it
11:55 Jarda oh, that might be true
11:56 Jarda never really walked through those bundlemenus
12:00 Xylakant you'd pretty much have to change the bundle itself but that's quite easy
12:08 saracen Why has everybody got a mac =(
12:08 sth Because they're pretty good
12:08 sth And we all wanted to laugh at you for not having what everyone else has.
12:09 saracen I do have penis envy.
12:11 simoncpu_ saracen: because you don't have a penis?
12:16 saracen That's the joke I was subtle suggesting, no need to splash it about =(
12:17 saracen subtly* :P
12:18 sth lunch
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13:07 Treffynnon This is driving me nuts: http://pastie.org/731703 the content of the url parameter is not coming through to the view class. ADT shows the parameter going into Agavi but never coming back out.
13:08 Treffynnon this is for the user.administration.update route
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13:11 krycek_ are you dinamically creating your view?
13:12 Yossi_ Question, what is the valid syntex to add a callback to a route nowdays?
13:13 v-dogg <route ...><callback class="MyCB" /></route>
13:14 Jarda http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/1.0/samples/app/config/routing.xml
13:14 Jarda check from here
13:14 Yossi_ V-dogg: thanks
13:15 Jarda I don't know if <callbacks> is required
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13:15 Jarda but they sure use it in the sample appa
13:16 Jarda Treffynnon: two questions: a) are you sure you are doing executeRead() b) have you checked this isn't a cache related problem
13:16 sth You know it's not good if the apartment you moved into needs 2 days to clean it
13:22 Treffynnon Jarda: thanks. it was (a). getting forgetful. this happened to me last time i used agavi as well.
13:24 nfq yo sth
13:28 Jarda Treffynnon: no problem :)
13:37 sth Hey nfq
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16:07 Wombert Jarda: ping
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16:15 Wombert v-dogg: poke Jarda for me, will you? :>
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16:19 v-dogg my pokes are as effective as yours :)
16:19 v-dogg what's up?
16:30 Wombert this propel 1.4 thing again
16:31 Jarda Wombert: oh, true, I have totally forgotten about it
16:31 Wombert so, Jarda
16:31 Wombert my suggestion is as follows
16:31 Wombert starting with propel 1.4, you need to do overrides like this:
16:32 Wombert <ae:parameter name="overrides">
16:32 Wombert <ae:parameter name="datasources.bookstore.connection.dsn">mysql:dbname=test</ae:parameter>
16:32 Wombert this will also work with propel 1.3
16:32 Wombert there will *not* be *any* magic regarding merging etc
16:32 Jarda hmm hmm
16:32 Jarda sounds reasonable
16:32 Wombert and that's not really necessary anyway
16:33 Wombert agavi 1.1 will remove Propel => PropelAutoload from the default autoloads.xml
16:33 Wombert agavi 1.2 will drop support for propel <= 1.2
16:33 Wombert agavi 1.1 will also require propel 1.3 users to specify the overrides as above
16:33 Wombert or maybe agavi 1.2, that's up for debate
16:34 fnordfish pokes graste ^^
16:35 Wombert Jarda: would you happen to have a moment to test this
16:35 Wombert in like 30 minutes or so?
16:35 Wombert just to see if you think it's okay
16:35 Wombert I'll then roll another rc with this change tonight
16:36 Jarda Wombert: yeah, I think I can find a moment :)
16:50 graste pokes back fnordfish
16:54 sth ~/ boom de ya da, boom de ya da, boom de ya da, boom de ya da... /~
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18:50 Wombert alrighty, Jarda
18:50 Wombert almost there
18:50 Wombert let me test this with 1.4 quick and then I'll send it over
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18:55 Wombert looks good
18:55 Wombert Jarda: where should I email this to?
18:59 Wombert Jarda: http://trac.agavi.org/ticket/1181
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19:25 Jarda Wombert: sorry
19:25 Jarda niklas@narhinen.net
19:25 _cheerios no real difference, meh
19:25 Jarda the little shit machine needed me
19:26 Wombert just replaced the patch in the ticket, there was a var_dump in it
19:26 Wombert Jarda: it's in the ticket :)
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19:30 Wombert Jarda: tell me if it works for you :>
19:31 Jarda gonna try
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19:43 Jarda meh, my 1.4 project doesn't have the db set up (on my home machine)
19:43 Jarda but it looks good
19:45 Jarda I did <aeparameter name="overrides"><ae:parameter name="datasources.myproj.connection.dsn">pgsql:...</ae:parameter></ae:parameter>
19:45 Jarda and it tries to find the db :D
19:45 Jarda I'm setting it up right now
19:45 Jarda to see if it really works
19:45 Jarda have to test this against the 1.3 proj also
19:47 Wombert thanks
19:47 Wombert the same override syntax should work against a 1.3 project
19:47 Wombert but the old way should also work for 1.3
19:47 Wombert you just have to adjust the classes/classmap entry of course, but I guess you're not overriding anything there
19:49 Jarda Fatal error: Class 'PropelConfiguration' not found in
19:49 Jarda that's with the 1.3 project
19:49 Jarda but actually, have to check what propel revision we are using
19:50 Wombert sounds like something older
19:50 Jarda it might be we are using the pre-propelconfiguration revisions
19:50 Wombert v-dogg implemented that I think :)
19:50 Jarda 1102
19:50 Jarda for the runtime
19:50 Wombert weird, why does it give you that error
19:51 Wombert what's the trace?
19:51 Jarda no trace, /libs/agavi/database/AgaviPropelDatabase.class.php on line 239
19:51 Jarda it's fatal
19:52 Wombert hm
19:52 Wombert so the version of propel you have
19:52 Wombert has
19:52 Wombert well
19:52 Wombert it's your propel that causes this
19:52 Wombert it makes a call to PropelConfiguration
19:53 Wombert but doesn't have it :)
19:53 Wombert something "in between revisions", it seem
19:53 Wombert s
19:53 Wombert http://propel.phpdb.org/trac/changeset/1103/branches/1.3/runtime/classes/propel
19:55 Jarda but on the 1.4 project, should <ae:parameter name="datasources.webi.connection.settings.queries.query"> work?
19:55 Jarda becaus I can't seem to get any difference on search_paths
19:57 Wombert are any queries in the runtime-conf.php?
19:57 Jarda yeah
19:58 Wombert how many?
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19:58 Jarda one
19:58 Wombert <ae:parameter name="datasources.webi.connection.settings.queries.query.1">SELECT * FROM booyah
19:58 Wombert because "0" already exists
19:58 Wombert or, alternatively
19:58 Wombert <ae:parameter name="datasources.webi.connection.settings.queries.lolz"><ae:parameter>SELECT * FROM booyah
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19:59 Wombert anything inside "queries" is taken as an array of queries, can be multiple
19:59 Wombert (special propel runtime thing)
19:59 Wombert or
19:59 Wombert much better
19:59 Wombert <ae:parameter name="init_queries"><ae:parameter>SELECT * FROM booyah
19:59 Wombert that'll be merged into ...queries.query
19:59 Wombert probably your best bet (and you can blame me if it stops working :p)
20:00 Wombert option 1 is definitely worst as it'll stop working if you add a second query in the runtime conf (but you could of course do queries.query.999 and hope that nobody ever adds that many)
20:00 Jarda ok
20:00 Wombert option 2 will work as long as francois doesn't break something (wouldn't hold my breath...)
20:00 Jarda well, the thing is, I would want to _override_ the search_path defined in runtime-conf
20:01 Wombert option 3 is probably gonna work for a long time, and/or we fix it for future propel versions (gah)
20:01 Wombert just add another, right?
20:01 Wombert basically, to override, you best use "overrides"; to append a search query, you use "init_queries"
20:01 Wombert (init_queries is not inside overrides, mind you)
20:01 Wombert does it work now=
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20:02 Jarda something crashes when I do .999
20:03 Jarda the site doesn't open
20:03 Jarda apache segfaults..
20:04 Jarda or when I do .1
20:04 Jarda but have to try other options
20:05 Jarda yeah, with datasources.proj.connection.settings.queries.1 it works
20:05 Jarda as query is not an array
20:06 Wombert hm
20:06 Wombert did you update to the latest propel?
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20:06 Wombert 1.3 I mean?
20:06 Jarda that all was on 1.4
20:06 Jarda now I bumbed 1.3 revision, going to test it next
20:07 Wombert hm
20:07 Wombert http://propel.phpdb.org/trac/browser/branches/1.4/runtime/classes/propel/adapter​/DBAdapter.php?rev=1352#L103
20:07 Wombert that's the code
20:08 Wombert apache segfault, really?
20:08 Wombert :(
20:08 Wombert queries.1 will work, but why doesn't queries.query.1...
20:08 Jarda dunno..
20:08 Jarda but yeah, [Mon Dec 07 22:02:31 2009] [notice] child pid 21145 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)
20:09 Jarda and those overrides do work in 1.3 also
20:09 Wombert okay
20:09 Jarda 1.2 projects I don't have
20:09 Wombert I'll look into the queries.query thing tomorrow
20:09 Wombert yeah fuck 1.2 :D
20:09 Wombert (I'll test that tomorrow)
20:09 Jarda v-dogg could have, he loves legacy ;)
20:10 Wombert okay, thanks Jarda
20:10 Jarda no problems
20:10 Wombert I gotta run, dinner
20:10 Wombert :)
20:10 Jarda yeah, wine -->
20:10 Wombert see you tomorrow, will commit then after some more tests
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08:30 Jarda http://blog.astrumfutura.com/archives/426-Zend-Framework,-XSS-Vulnerabilities,-A​nd-The-Apocalypse.html
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08:57 _cheerios huomenta
08:58 graste huomenta
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10:27 digitarald nice idea http://code.google.com/apis/gdata/docs/2.0/basics.html#UpdatingEntry
10:28 sth I'd rather it be json.
10:30 Xylakant i fail to see the special part about that
10:30 digitarald not special
10:30 Xylakant it's a pretty standard rest interface
10:30 digitarald agavi can handle it with a route
10:30 sth I really hate XML for data transfer.
10:30 Xylakant sth: it does have it's advantages and disadvantages
10:31 Xylakant it's far more verbose than json
10:31 Xylakant otoh, it can be validated
10:31 sth That's my main reason for hating it for data transfer.
10:32 digitarald I only ment the header to control the method
10:32 Jarda and xml is easier to parse in most types of clients
10:32 Xylakant being able to validate the transferred data with an xsd can be pretty handy
10:32 Jarda for example .net 2.0 hasn't got a decent json-parser
10:33 Xylakant Jarda: well, I guess .net fails there
10:33 Xylakant any other language i'm aware of has one
10:33 Jarda there's a ton of 3rd party libraries, but most of them are 3.0 min
10:34 sth Xylakant: the displayport -> hdmi cable works fine, if only I could get my amp to work :/
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10:35 Xylakant_ well I guess that sucks then
10:35 sth 2I think it's not hooked up correctly
10:35 sth -2
10:36 digitarald how did u connect it?
10:36 digitarald I just ordered a new screen
10:36 sth No idea, I didn't connect it
10:36 digitarald was confused by so many cables
10:36 sth It came with the apartment
10:36 digitarald DVI-D, HDMI … my mbp has Mini Displayport … my dell has HDMI
10:37 digitarald sweet
10:37 Xylakant_ the never dell monitors actually have displayport as well
10:37 Jarda I really would like to have a 27" iMac
10:38 sth I need to do a factory reset on my tv
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10:39 Jarda stupid tortoisesvn
10:40 Jarda david has made his patch with --- src/database/AgaviPropelDatabase.class.php(Revision 4361)
10:40 Jarda and my AgaviPropelDatabase is in libs/agavi/database
10:40 Jarda so stypid tortoisesvn complains that "src/database/Agavi... isn't found"
10:42 Jarda netbeans was smarter
10:42 Xylakant_ well, use patch -p ;)
10:43 Jarda Xylakant: tortoisesvn doesn't have that switch..
10:43 Xylakant_ I know.
10:43 Xylakant_ patch is a unix commandline utility
10:44 Xylakant_ you probably don't have that on your box
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10:45 Jarda well, I don't have any command line utils on this windows machine
10:45 Jarda using the gui alternatives
10:45 Jarda but they do fail some times..
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11:11 CIA-19 david * r4362 /branches/1.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Support for Propel 1.4, closes #1181 (thanks to Niklas for helping with tests)
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11:20 Jarda \o/
11:22 Xylakant oh
11:22 Xylakant netsplit?
11:22 Wombert :S
11:22 Wombert Jarda: fix is in svn
11:22 Wombert rolling a release now
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11:26 Treffynnon Hi everyone. I am having another weird problem. I have a model.class.php that extends a custom base.model.class.php. The base.model.class.php is in the global app autoload.xml but PHP issues a fatal error when it is run. Because the base.model.class cannot be found in the model.class.php. How can this be if it is in the autoload?
11:27 Jarda Wombert: yeah, noticed
11:27 Jarda now I have to convince v-dogg we should start using overrides :)
11:27 Jarda he's so old fashioned that he refuses to change his methods ;)
11:28 macen um, hi
11:28 macen http://paste2.org/p/552331
11:29 Wombert Line 8: Element '{http://agavi.org/agavi/config/parts/settings/1.0}module': [facet 'pattern'] The value '' is not accepted by the pattern '[^\\]+'.
11:31 CIA-19 david * r4364 /tags/1.0.2RC3/: tagging 1.0.2RC3 release
11:34 CIA-19 david * r4365 /branches/1.0/ (CHANGELOG src/version.php): back to -dev
11:37 Jarda Wombert: are there any known bc breaks between [4329-4362] in 1.0 branch
11:37 Jarda (I mean, is it safe to bumb our svn:externals)
11:37 Wombert Jarda: nah, there shouldn't be any over minor versions
11:37 Wombert unless it's a bugfix maybe, but even then we try to avoid ot
11:37 Wombert *it
11:38 Jarda then I could maybe bumb our externals to 1.0.2RC3
11:38 Wombert check the tags to see what versions were in between and have a look at RELEASE_NOTES or CHANGELOG
11:38 Jarda well, I'm glad we have a nice amount of tests :)
11:39 Wombert OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE
11:39 Wombert stabs ohloh
11:39 Wombert ohloh is in bloody read-only mode
11:39 Wombert god fucking damnit
11:39 Wombert until thursday
11:39 Wombert nice
11:39 Wombert ...
11:39 sth Don't use ohloh then :)
11:40 Wombert well
11:40 Wombert we use it for releases
11:40 Wombert :<
11:42 ttj Don't release anything until Thursday?-)
11:44 Wombert too late now? :p
11:46 Wombert changed the topic of #agavi to: Welcome to Agavi :: www.agavi.org :: stable: 1.0.1 :: testing: 1.0.2 RC3 :: maintenance: 0.11.8 :: svn: http://svn.agavi.org/ (use branches, not trunk) :: have a question? Just ask, and wait patiently, as patience is the key to happiness :: got no reply? use the mailing lists! :: http://ohloh.net/p/agavi :: logs: http://www.agavi.org/irclogs :: http://trac.agavi.org/wiki/IRC :: Yaaaaaarrr! :: http://is.gd/58ZGN
11:47 _cheerios is there a way to calculate the resultset size of an sql query with sql alone?
11:50 Jarda nice picture of Wombert in the topic :)
11:50 Jarda _cheerios: "SELECT COUNT(*) FROM..."
11:50 Jarda :)
11:51 _cheerios i don't mean the number of rows, but the actual size (bytes)
11:51 sth Jarda: :D
11:54 Wombert changed the topic of #agavi to: Welcome to Agavi :: www.agavi.org :: stable: 1.0.1 :: testing: 1.0.2 RC3 :: maintenance: 0.11.8 :: svn: http://svn.agavi.org/ (use branches, not trunk) :: have a question? Just ask, and wait patiently, as patience is the key to happiness :: got no reply? use the mailing lists! :: http://ohloh.net/p/agavi :: logs: http://www.agavi.org/irclogs :: http://trac.agavi.org/wiki/IRC
11:54 sth haha
11:54 Wombert _cheerios: SELECT COUNT(*) x number of columns x 3.14
11:54 sth It'll always be in the logs :x
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12:41 _cheerios has anyone used Twig (templating engine)? Opinions?
12:42 Xylakant haven't used it yet, but I had a look at it. Among all template engines for php it seemed to be the most sane choice, apart from tal/metal maybe
12:42 _cheerios http://www.twig-project.org/ looked like a php replica of djangos templating system
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12:53 Jarda yo dawg, I heard you like templates, so I put a template language in your template language so you can use templates when using templates..
12:53 Jarda (imo php is a template language itself..)
12:57 saracen I'm really happy for you and I'mma let you finish but... but PHP is the best templating language of all time. OF ALL TIME.
12:59 sth [insert recent meme here!]
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13:27 Xylakant  Jarda: There's some valid points for template languages.
13:28 Xylakant Mainly that I can hand out template development to "untrusted" parties
13:28 Xylakant like the customer
13:29 Xylakant In a well written template language there's no way to break out of the sandbox and execute own code on the server
13:29 Xylakant Other template languages allow real template inheritance, such as erector for ruby
13:30 Xylakant though I have to admit that a thing like erector is pretty much impossible in php
13:37 Jarda Xylakant: yeah, there are some valid points, that's true
13:38 Jarda but as I _never_ could think of letting the designer upload code to repository, then it's just the same he gives me an pure html-template I adapt in my app
13:38 Jarda what the fuck is it with my english nowadays..
13:39 Xylakant Jarda: I'm actually not talking about the designer
13:39 Xylakant I'm rather talking about a hosted service where the customer can adapt templates
13:39 Jarda Xylakant: oh, like that
13:40 Jarda yeah, well, that is best done with a template language
13:40 Xylakant If my designer decided to attack my app with a template I'd slap him silly
13:41 Jarda Xylakant: yeah but I've heard about cases where the designer has done something silly like "I id my own mysql_query here.."
13:41 Xylakant yeah
13:41 Xylakant but I do review commits for that purpose
13:41 Jarda and with agavi this is even "worse", as the html has to valid xml
13:42 Jarda those designers with their dreamweavers..
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13:51 digitarald who needs designers that do html?
13:51 Xylakant I actually don't but I've seen people that were very adept at doing templates
13:53 digitarald with template language PHP?
13:53 digitarald just finished some work with XSLT … can't imagine using it in templates, I would go crazy
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14:02 Jarda digitarald: adapting designers photoshop-layouts is a pain in the ass also
14:03 Jarda v-dogg can tell more about it..
14:03 Jarda "this left margin has to be ecactly 113px, not more or not less and with all browsers"
14:03 digitarald But home-sliced layouts are FTW because u can control the htm
14:03 digitarald and pixel pushing designers get ignored
14:04 digitarald the web is not print and http://dowebsitesneedtolookexactlythesameineverybrowser.com/
14:04 Jarda :D
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14:08 sth haha
14:11 sth They should of played on it a bit more
14:11 sth So based on the user agent, you get a different stylesheet
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14:25 E_mE huomenta
14:26 sth Hey E_mE
14:26 E_mE yo sth
14:26 E_mE ive just been enlightened by the delights of ape project :D
14:26 sth ape project?
14:27 E_mE www.ape-project.org
14:27 sth Oh. I saw that a while ago
14:28 E_mE i've been looking for ages on how to create a decent web based chat
14:31 E_mE uses mootools as well :D
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14:34 E_mE haha
14:34 Xylakant-Ape hey, I can chat with myself
14:35 Xylakant Oh, Cool
14:35 E_mE :D
14:35 Xylakant-Ape That's actually a great demo. We should use that instead of that stupid IRSSI
14:36 sth I still prefer irssi
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14:36 cheer-ape waves
14:37 E_mE hip hip hooraayy!
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14:40 E_mE this is pretty cool http://www.ape-project.org/en/demos/5/live-tweets.html
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15:12 _cheerios what what?
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16:23 Treffynnon Has anyone considered writing a script that will generate a validation xml "stub" file from a form template?
16:28 Xylakant not yet
16:29 E_mE whats a stub file if you don't mind me asking?
16:30 sth for it to be plausable, you'd need to validate it against a model
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17:01 Treffynnon E_mE: something to work from so it would have most the xml there for you work from.
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17:01 E_mE Treffynnon: ah like JSON encoded version or so which can be easily used etc?
17:02 digitarald Treffynnon: people started on it
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17:03 digitarald even me … but I never saw a final product
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17:03 Treffynnon sth: why would it need to validated against a model? I simply don't want to have to type so much xml. The actual class types and parameters etc would be configured by the developer
17:03 digitarald use a proper xml editor to avoid typing xml ;)
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17:03 digitarald u'd need to generate the xml from models (eek) or auto-register validators from the models
17:04 digitarald like doctrine-schema-2-validator
17:04 Treffynnon E_mE: nah more like the Agavi phing script does with the action-wizard it puts the basics there for you and you build on top of it
17:04 digitarald but avoid the agavi team afterwards … they could start shooting you, or love it … not sure
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17:05 digitarald interesting, as a task
17:05 Treffynnon I am unsure why it needs to come from the models. The template should be enough to put a skeleton of xml in place no?
17:05 digitarald that could work, but its hard to maintain if u add fields … or u have the generated file as xinclude in the validator xml file
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17:05 E_mE Treffynnon: ah like a skeleton version of the XML
17:06 Treffynnon ah i see yeah the models would be a better option for maintenance
17:06 Treffynnon i was just thinking short sightedly at initial build
17:06 digitarald another idea: use a doctrine validator, that returns the doctrine validation errors to agavi
17:07 digitarald I used them in several projects … so u can actually connect the doctrine validation to agavi
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17:07 Treffynnon digitarald: can you recommend a good xml editor? I am jsut using netbeans at the moment
17:07 Treffynnon E_mE: yeah skeleton
17:07 digitarald netbeans has no good xml support?
17:07 digitarald I use eclipse, with very good xml support (dtd, xsl, validation)
17:08 digitarald mh http://xml.netbeans.org/
17:08 Treffynnon its good but it doesn't help you by auto closing tags or anything from what i can see
17:08 Treffynnon maybe i just need to educate myself :)
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17:10 Jarda netbeans sure does autoclose tags
17:10 Jarda and it autoindents etc
17:11 Treffynnon Now I have a question. I have a funciton that I wrap htmlentities with: http://pastie.org/733860 How would you guys integrate this into Agavi for use in native PHP templating
17:11 Treffynnon Jarda: I have never got it auto closing. maybe I killed something in the settings when I first set it up
17:12 Treffynnon I basically want to be able call <?php echo htmlEscape('siome texzt in here'); ?> in my templates
17:13 Treffynnon I am failing to think of a nice way of working that in
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17:13 saracen You could just type out htmlentities('siome texzt in here', ENT_QUOTES, 'UTF-8'); and don't be so lazy :)
17:14 digitarald that's not DRY and makes writing PHP a pain
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17:14 saracen If you want HTML helpers though, you could create a model. Then call context->getModel('HtmlHelper')->escape('some text here')
17:14 digitarald lazy vs. long-ass code ;)
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17:15 Jarda of course you can register helpers on your phprenderer
17:15 digitarald oh?
17:15 digitarald like extending it?
17:15 saracen yeah
17:15 Jarda a sec
17:15 digitarald and $this->escape() ?
17:15 digitarald I thought about it, didn't have a good feeling
17:16 digitarald or the symfony way, escape it all
17:16 saracen I've thought about it in the past too. Don't have a good feeling about any of it :)
17:16 digitarald u could even validate that devs don't give models to the view, only arrays, ints and strings
17:16 Treffynnon saracen: what if the character encoding changes - search and replace the whole code base? ;)
17:16 Xylakant Treffynnon: why don't you go and define the function as h() which makes for shorter code
17:17 digitarald or $()
17:17 Xylakant well $() is not a valid method name I'd say
17:17 graste you could overwrite the PhpRenderer and introduce a $h->_($value) :D
17:17 digitarald JS is sooo much better
17:17 saracen 17:16:03 < Treffynnon> saracen: what if the character encoding changes - search and replace the whole code base? ;)
17:17 graste ducks and runs away
17:17 saracen Pretty much, yes.
17:18 digitarald extending the PhpRenderer sounds more and more like a cool idea
17:18 digitarald damn
17:18 saracen If you're using xhtml + utf8, you'll probably insert some utf8 characters in to your templates anyway
17:18 Jarda $moreAssigns['e'] = new MyEscaper();
17:18 saracen What are you going to do then? Search and replace every utf8 character?
17:18 Jarda then in your templte $e->_('my text');
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17:18 digitarald array_map($moreAssigns, 'htmlentities')
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17:18 digitarald Muahaha …
17:19 digitarald cocktail time
17:19 Treffynnon Xylakant: thats just the name the function has in some legacy code the guys here have been using for ages so wanted to keep it friendly for them
17:19 Xylakant is that a problem?
17:20 Xylakant or does that function do something else?
17:20 Xylakant I actually like the idea of doing an escape on all vars passed to the template
17:20 Treffynnon Xylakant: not a problem
17:21 Xylakant though array_map won'd do it that easily
17:21 Xylakant since those vars may be an array
17:21 Treffynnon Xlyakant: what if there is html in there? turn off double encode?
17:21 Xylakant why would html be in vars passed to the template?
17:22 Wombert snooze &
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17:22 Xylakant you'd have to be careful when creating urls though
17:22 saracen It sometimes happens. My biggest annoyance with agavi doing that itself was with error fields. My error message needed a hyperlink.
17:22 Treffynnon if your system is the frontend for a mail system then there will be html in there :)
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17:22 graste user templates? input from tinymce rubbish and teh like? how would you implement that?
17:23 Xylakant go ahead, there's ample space to rig "setAttribute" to offer a "no escape, i know what I'm doing" setting
17:23 Xylakant such as writing to a different namespace
17:23 Xylakant anyways, need to go
17:24 Xylakant cu tomorrow
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17:24 graste <:
17:24 graste ragequit!
17:24 saracen what a rage quitter
17:24 saracen lol graste
17:24 graste :D
17:24 saracen you beat me by one second =(
17:24 graste plays warsow from time to time...need to be fast ;)
17:24 saracen I used to play warsow too :P
17:25 saracen I was never that fast
17:25 graste yeah...used to
17:26 graste but made a few ca games after buying a new computer a few weeks ago
17:26 graste after disabling compiz my mouse even worked for rocket jumps...
17:26 digitarald escape all … $this->getRaw($pointer)
17:26 digitarald my take … like symfony does it, which I usually dislike
17:27 graste hehe
17:27 digitarald it actually does it differebt
17:27 digitarald it wraps all values in an output-escaper class
17:27 graste so is there a common accepted way now after this 'discussion'?
17:27 graste ^^
17:27 digitarald which masks the access
17:27 digitarald I like disabling objects to the template
17:27 digitarald and do a deep-escape on all values
17:28 graste I like the "escape all" strategy and using a different namespace for unescaped things
17:28 graste it's just to easy to forget escaping in templates
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17:28 graste yes
17:28 graste someone should write somthing!
17:28 graste :D
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18:37 hzilla chrome mac http://www.google.com/chrome
18:39 saracen No thanks! I run linux! *jumps on motorcycle*
18:39 hzilla and linux
18:40 hzilla beta only
18:40 hzilla just for testing
18:41 saracen I read it on slashdot :P
18:47 sth ...I hate you saracen
18:50 saracen haha.
18:50 saracen Just because you'll never be able to use that line
18:50 saracen Macface.
18:55 Rayne haha :P
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19:19 _cheerios fracking adsl. 2 years and is it saying goodbye now :| 60e for a new one.
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20:06 sth saracen: Go recompile your kernel.
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20:16 saracen sth: I don't need to
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20:18 sth Sure you do
20:18 sth It's linux
20:18 _cheerios modem better work now... :knock wood:
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21:00 saracen sth: Only just read that. You troll =(
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06:42 simoncpu hi. im php newbie.
06:43 simoncpu can i ask a question?
06:44 simoncpu y is no one around? :(
06:57 Jarda simoncpu: no, no one is
06:58 v-dogg yes, no-one
07:04 simoncpu :(
07:04 simoncpu i has question
07:04 simoncpu whats d best lightweight frmwrk out der?
07:05 simoncpu dey say that zend or codeignter is best
07:12 v-dogg umm.. you do realize you are on #agavi and Agavi is a framework?-)
07:13 Jarda v-dogg: don't feed the ugly troll :(
07:15 simoncpu im not ugly :( :( :(
07:15 simoncpu YOU HURTS MY FEELING!!!!11!
07:41 v-dogg is dreamhost down or did someone cut the trans-atlantic cable?
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08:50 graste huomenta
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09:36 macen http://www.google.co.uk/chrome supporting mac os x now
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09:45 simoncpu yeah, but no tiger
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09:57 Treffynnon has anyone experienced a problem where they lost error message injection from an Input form? I can see it is failing validations in ADT but that is not translating into error messages. My update forms seem to be working fine. The input forms did have error messages displaying before.
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10:03 E_mE huomenta
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10:15 simoncpu Treffynnon: is the action property in your <form> tag correct?
10:15 simoncpu does the page validate as xhtml strict?
10:15 simoncpu the fpf is kindda picky
10:17 Treffynnon the action is set to blank action=""
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10:18 Treffynnon and its validating like a dream
10:22 digitarald u have other fields that show error messages?
10:22 digitarald and only one is missing?
10:23 Treffynnon nope the whole form is not getting error messages
10:24 Treffynnon but my seperate update forms that update the information do get error messages (they use FPF pre-population)
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10:29 Treffynnon I reuse the Input template for the error view could this be causing something to go wrong? http://pastie.org/735163
10:37 digitarald FPF checks the id and the action
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10:40 Treffynnon digitarald: so it can identify the form. but how would that affect the CreateInput? The id doesn't change between the Input and Error views as they are the same template. I am confused. Going to have to dig further into the FPF code to debug I think.
10:42 digitarald the form has the action-attribute of the current action?
10:43 Treffynnon excuse code: <form method="post" action="" id="create-form">
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10:46 Treffynnon digitarald: Is that what you mean?
10:48 digitarald yes
10:48 digitarald action is empty?
10:49 Treffynnon yes
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11:04 Treffynnon ok so if you are using FPF with pre-population and you specify the form id attribute then it can use that to populate the form
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11:04 Treffynnon but if you are not it needs the action to identify the form to inject the messages into
11:06 Treffynnon so with a blank action my Create forms would always fail as there is no pre-population array setup for them
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11:12 simoncpu digitarald: i've stumbled upon your site a few months ago
11:12 simoncpu and everytime i download code, i'm redirected into some weird page
11:12 digitarald checking
11:12 digitarald every example?
11:12 digitarald ah … github problem I guess
11:12 digitarald after they moved
11:13 simoncpu whoa, the problem still exists
11:13 simoncpu check out http://digitarald.de/project/remooz/
11:13 digitarald I'd expect better bug reports than weird pages
11:13 digitarald :P
11:13 simoncpu duh
11:13 simoncpu i expect pages that work rather than weird pages
11:13 simoncpu hahaha
11:13 digitarald whats weird?
11:13 simoncpu i'm redirected into #000100000000000000000000">http://disqus.com/forums/digitarald-de/remooz_1_0/None#000100000000000000000000
11:14 digitarald ok, I don't have that
11:14 digitarald but that sucks big time
11:14 simoncpu that problem existed for like a few months already
11:16 digitarald yes, I heart of it … just need time to fix it
11:16 digitarald for now I wrote disqus a rant
11:16 simoncpu aha! if i disable javascript, your site loads fine
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11:20 digitarald really bad, sorry
11:20 digitarald disqus was a headache from the first day
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11:29 graste Treffynnon: you could use $ro->gen(null) in your action and then a form in your slot (but beware, that all your main actions and other slots probably need a executeWrite in that case)
11:29 graste otherwise using an id for your forms is the way to go with FPF and re/pre populate :)
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11:56 Treffynnon graste: thanks
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12:24 saracen http://www.google.com/intl/en_uk/doodle4google/vote.html
12:24 saracen 14-16, first image.
12:24 saracen Has this been in the news at all? I just stumbled across it. It's happening again!
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12:39 E_mE saracen: i thought 14-16, the last image, the finger prints on is pretty cool
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12:42 saracen E_mE: true, that is cool
12:55 Treffynnon Is it just me or has the word hero been diluted somewhat?
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12:56 Treffynnon are sports people and olympians really heros or just exceptionally good at one thing?
12:57 sikkle they maybe good at doin drugs too..
12:59 Treffynnon true
13:00 Treffynnon i thought heros were either demigods or people with mythic powers or someone who is brave and risks their life for the sake of others
13:00 Treffynnon how does singing a song or jumping into a sandpit meet those criteria?
13:02 sikkle i mean it's two separate question
13:02 sikkle being the best in your field of activity is already very impressive
13:03 sikkle but i mean i'm very good at drinking
13:03 sikkle doesnt make me a very good candidate to senate.
13:04 sikkle so hero...dunno, good at what they do is a good enough appelation to me
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13:07 Treffynnon I am a space hero!
13:07 Treffynnon I am really good at staring blanking into space.
13:07 Treffynnon blankly rather
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14:09 saracen sikkle: Isn't "hero" all of a personal perspective thing anyway?
14:11 saracen A guy that saved you from a burning building might be your hero. To other people, he's just a firefighter.
14:12 saracen I should have said Treffynnon there =(
14:13 sikkle saracen: yep, i mean, as a convos it could never stop, but those who give their life to other community and stuff like this, are maybe the only hero to me, but even there it's usually selfish.. so who know..
14:15 Treffynnon saracen: but he is risking his life for the sake of others and not something frivilous like running around a track fast. i guess it is kinda subjective though as you say.
14:16 Treffynnon although what if having seen that guy running around a track inspired someone else to take up running right before they were to commit a bank robbery would they indirectly be a hero then?
14:16 saracen People that are inspirational do get called heros often by their fans, so the running around a track fast is enough for a lot of people i suppose
14:17 saracen lol, not sure. But i like the idea of indirectly being a hero.
14:18 saracen Maybe I'm indirectly a hero. Maybe I once said hi to somebody who was thinking about committing suicide because nobody ever noticed them
14:19 saracen I know for a fact I didn't because I want to kill all humans. But it's a nice thought still.
14:19 Treffynnon well i guess heroism is hard to define but easy to ascribe
14:19 Treffynnon saracen: lmao
14:20 saracen I used to think my dad was a hero, up until I was probably 10 years old. Then I realised he was just a man. =(
14:22 Treffynnon ah but could he be a hero still? he risked death through exhaustion to conceive you and therefore suffered through peril for the sake of another!
14:22 Treffynnon ah logic gets better with no sleep
14:25 saracen I now hate you with a passion for making me imagine my exhausted father during that... act.
14:25 saracen and I was eating =(
14:25 sth That's what she said.
14:25 Treffynnon :D
14:25 saracen sth: You win this round =(
14:26 sth I win every round.
14:26 saracen bet thats something your girlfriend never saus
14:26 saracen says*
14:27 saracen ;o
14:27 saracen Speaking of girls
14:27 saracen Have you found out if german women do actually shave or not?
14:45 simoncpu girls?
14:45 simoncpu huh? where?
14:45 simoncpu girls on agavi? where where where?
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15:37 E_mE what a great xmas gift ;P http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00264GHIC/ref=s9_al_gc_ir02?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL​5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-10&pf_rd_r=0R8V2KM6S5XJW3SARPYC&pf_rd_t=1001&pf_rd_p=477181​413&pf_rd_i=homepage
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05:29 simoncpu fuck fuck fuck
05:29 simoncpu my GF's mom added me in facebook!!!!!!
05:29 simoncpu aaaaaaaaargh
05:30 saracen haha, owned.
05:30 saracen When my boss added me, I had to disable all images.
06:04 veturi^ ur so crayzee
06:11 saracen You feel new
06:11 saracen Unless you're some early mornerererer that I don't recall seeing
06:11 saracen 6:11 - I should have gone to bed at some point.
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07:21 v-dogg digitarald: hi there
07:22 digitarald Huomenta :)
07:22 v-dogg I was looking for you just yesterday. wanted to talk to you about squeezebox
07:22 digitarald whats up v-dogg
07:22 v-dogg two things - first, it's awesome and I love it :)
07:24 v-dogg second, I added a simple little hack to prevent closing it by clicking the overlay (ie. close via button only). would you want to add that to the "official" version
07:24 digitarald I thought I had that … mh
07:24 v-dogg we want to prevent users accidentally closing it
07:25 v-dogg I thought so too but could find it :)
07:25 digitarald I know what u mean … I think I had that its completely uncloseable … no close box shown too
07:25 v-dogg aa yes, that I did find
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08:40 Wombert RC3 is now available for download
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08:43 digitarald congrats
08:43 v-dogg Wombert: I just noticed somethign weird with propel config, just investigating if agavi's overrides mess things up (using rc3)
08:43 v-dogg stay tuned, please
08:43 Wombert alrighty
08:44 digitarald Wombert: what are the plans on dispatcher/pub-sub integration into the agavi core?
08:46 digitarald like the one mentioned in the GSOC list
08:46 Wombert you mean a message/event based system?
08:47 digitarald yes, to hook in plugins/extensions without extending
08:47 Wombert yeah
08:47 Wombert I'd say it's a 2.0 thing
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08:48 Wombert tha basic plan is to add some features for 1.1, then do lots of optimizations for 1.2 and make that a long-term support release
08:48 Wombert I think feature-wise, Agavi is doing quite well, but we need to change and fix and reinvent some structural things
08:48 Wombert and the biggest point on that list is certainly this modularity you're mentioning
08:50 digitarald so 1.2 will be the structural refactoring? how is development going on lately, do u have the feeling that its fast enough?
08:50 digitarald bluntly asked :)
08:51 digitarald btw, I liked Felix new folder structure … could it be on a branch?
08:53 graste huomenta
08:54 v-dogg Wombert: looks like my init query defined in runtime-conf.xml/project-conf.php is not run at all
08:54 v-dogg so either propel is borken or rc3 does something funky to the config
08:54 Wombert which new folder structure?
08:55 Wombert v-dogg: humm
08:55 v-dogg it's agavi
08:56 Wombert :<
08:56 simoncpu speaking of agavi, is it true that some tequilla bottles have worms?
08:56 Wombert what
08:56 Wombert no
08:56 Wombert :(
08:56 simoncpu i've never seen a worm inside a tequilla
08:56 Wombert v-dogg: hmm let's see
08:56 v-dogg Wombert: if(!is_array($queries)) {
08:57 v-dogg I only have one so it's not an array but a string
08:57 Wombert digitarald: [09:54] Wombert: which new folder structure?
08:57 Wombert srsly?
08:57 Wombert wtf is wrong with propel
08:57 Wombert gah
08:57 Wombert goes test
08:57 Wombert wait, is it in a <query>?
08:57 Wombert in the runtime-conf.xml?
08:58 v-dogg lemme paste my configs
08:58 Wombert <3
08:59 v-dogg runtime-conf.xml http://pastebin.com/m60665c57
08:59 v-dogg generated .php http://pastebin.com/d7eca7186
09:00 v-dogg (ok, not exactly the generated one. I modified the query to see it fail :)
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09:01 v-dogg and var_dump($queries); says string(20) "select * from boobs "
09:02 v-dogg and agavi inits it with $queries = array();
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09:05 v-dogg oh and btw, Propel::getConfiguration(PropelConfiguration::TYPE_OBJECT); is not supported by 1.3 stable, it was added later but 1.3.1 was never released
09:06 Wombert oh really?
09:06 Wombert fuck
09:06 v-dogg so you need the latest from branches/1.3 or 1.4
09:07 Wombert durr
09:07 Wombert balls
09:07 Wombert that is very bad
09:07 Wombert 'cause it means I can't simplify the code without dropping support for 1.3 :(
09:07 Wombert moooooooooooooooooh
09:07 Wombert why is "query" not an array though
09:07 Wombert stabs propel
09:11 Wombert oh man
09:11 Wombert :*(
09:11 Wombert sighs
09:11 Wombert lemme fix that
09:11 Wombert you'll have to test it though
09:11 Wombert :)
09:11 v-dogg will do
09:12 Wombert hugs v-dogg
09:14 Wombert stabs self
09:14 Wombert this will hurt
09:14 simoncpu Wombert is emo
09:14 Wombert :D
09:15 simoncpu why is the world so sad? why is despair all around us?
09:15 simoncpu why am i so lonely, with no one to hug?
09:15 simoncpu why am i here, all alone with this bug
09:15 simoncpu agavi sucks; i hate the world.
09:15 simoncpu behold, for emo is wombert.
09:15 simoncpu is an instant poet
09:16 Wombert :p
09:16 v-dogg simoncpu: I believe you suck and the world hates you
09:17 simoncpu v-dogg: Agavi hates you
09:31 digitarald guys, whats your couchdb experience … for a "real-time-collaboration" project … or for simple web-app-prototyping
09:32 digitarald heart a lot of buzz and a lot of rants, that its not ready yet
09:33 Wombert hm
09:33 Wombert well
09:34 Wombert the view system takes getting used to if you're not familiar with the approach (I found it easy)
09:34 Wombert but it'll be limiting
09:34 Wombert there is a lot of things you can't do with couchdb
09:34 Wombert if you need its features, it's really good
09:34 Wombert like schemaless documents, master-master replication, conflict handling...
09:54 fnordfish i like couch a lot for prototyping - simply start the db, build your app using JS, done ;)
09:55 fnordfish no schema or orm to take care of, n
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10:39 Wombert alrighty v-dogg
10:39 Wombert horros!
10:39 horros Yes Wombert?
10:39 Wombert how are you :)
10:39 horros Crap.
10:39 horros You?
10:39 Wombert okay-ish
10:39 Wombert :)
10:39 Wombert are you going to turku agile day again?
10:40 Wombert and what about ttj?
10:40 horros Probably :)
10:40 Wombert oh
10:40 horros Depends on when it is.
10:40 Wombert so I should come, too, then, I suppose
10:40 Wombert http://www.turkuagileday.fi/
10:40 Wombert march
10:40 horros That'd be cool, yeah. Lots of drinks on the company!
10:40 horros \o/
10:40 Wombert \o/
10:41 horros I'm also pondering going to CeBIT
10:41 horros Which is also in March.
10:41 Wombert didn't they cancel that? :P
10:41 horros I dunno, I got an email this morning about the trip to CeBIT :O
10:41 Wombert ah no
10:41 Wombert what are you doing at cebit anyway
10:41 horros CeBIT 2010 - 2. - 6. March
10:42 horros Wombert: Drinking copious amounts of german beer, of course!
10:42 Wombert oh
10:42 horros (On the company)
10:42 Wombert you should rather come to oktoberfest then
10:42 Wombert (on the company)
10:42 horros Well, that's in October.
10:42 Wombert yes
10:42 Wombert :>
10:42 horros :)
10:42 horros So I should go to CeBIT, Turku Agile Day *and* Oktoberfest.
10:43 horros \o/
10:43 horros Ah, neat, they have workshops this time.
10:44 horros Oh wait, it's a CSM training course!
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10:50 horros That was that then. I'm going to the CSM training course too.
10:59 v-dogg google cms: "CSM is the largest supplier of bakery products worldwide and is global market leader in lactic acid and lactic acid derivatives"
10:59 v-dogg must be something else :)
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11:09 CIA-19 david * r4366 /branches/1.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Fixed two regressions introduced in 1.0.2RC3: broken Propel 1.3 support and init queries, closes #1194 and #1195 and refs #1181
11:09 Wombert v-dogg: test plz
11:10 Wombert Note: course language is Finnish.
11:10 fnordfish1 [n=fnordfis@78.52.143.242] has quit ["Leaving."]
11:10 Wombert the only finnish word is the one which escapes me at the moment, for cunt or tits or something
11:10 Wombert pokes finland
11:10 Wombert pokes horros
11:10 Wombert pokes v-dogg
11:10 Wombert pokes ttj
11:11 Wombert pokes _ch^H^H^H WHERE IS HE?
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11:13 horros :O
11:14 fnordfish [n=fnordfis@78.52.143.242] has quit [Client Quit]
11:14 horros v-dogg: CSM = Certified Scrum Master
11:14 v-dogg pong pong pong
11:14 v-dogg sorry, long latency
11:14 horros SCRUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
11:14 v-dogg and heaps of work
11:14 v-dogg Wombert: on it in a minute
11:15 horros Ick.
11:15 horros = completely out of juice
11:15 horros Luckily I get a week or so off around christmas/newyears
11:22 Wombert v-dogg: ty
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11:46 v-dogg Wombert: ping
11:53 sth He went to lunch
12:00 v-dogg k
12:01 sth Just as I'm doing now :)
12:01 sth He should be back in an hour or two
12:05 v-dogg kk
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12:06 v-dogg just to let you know too: the propel stuff is still broken in 1.0.2RC3 ->
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12:36 graste 13:06 v-dogg just to let you know too: the propel stuff is still broken in 1.0.2RC3 ->
12:36 graste waits for Wombert to come back and swear like there's no tomorrow
12:37 graste readies himself up with some coffee for a better viewing experience
12:37 v-dogg Dolby Surround where available
12:38 graste THC^HX
12:38 graste <:
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12:54 Xylakant grr
12:54 Xylakant echo stripcslashes(json_encode(array('foo' => 'http://example.com";')));
12:55 v-dogg :)
12:56 Xylakant well, i guess the slashes are inserted for a reason...
13:01 E_mE heheheh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd1hqcbEuMM - anyone for a handjob
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13:03 graste so json_encode messes up slashes? hm
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13:14 Xylakant graste: no it doesn't
13:14 Xylakant it correctly escapes them, as required by the standard
13:15 Xylakant however, if the dev looking at the generated json first tries to "fix" those weird looking links...
13:16 v-dogg you get to clean up somebody elses code?
13:17 Xylakant well, I'm more or less in charge of that feature.
13:17 Xylakant meaning I don't do the development but take the blame...
13:20 v-dogg :)
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13:20 sth yay, I have some film for my camera
13:22 horros Si, stop flooding!
13:25 sth u.
13:27 horros uses a FACE inverter on sth
13:27 sth :(
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13:38 Wombert re
13:38 Wombert stabs propel
13:38 Wombert what's wrong, v-dogg?
13:38 Wombert of course it's broken in rc3 :p
13:38 Wombert you need to try latest svn
13:39 Wombert or is that what you meant?
13:41 v-dogg read private msgs please :)
13:42 v-dogg and *slap* for patronizing, of course I updated to the latest! :D
13:52 Wombert oh
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14:00 graste hr
14:00 graste not the showdown I was hoping for :x
14:00 v-dogg :)
14:03 saracen There anyway I can pass some static value to the request data of an action from routing xml?
14:04 Wombert sure
14:05 Wombert <default for="booyah">zomg</default>
14:05 Wombert where "booyah" is not in your route pattern
14:05 Wombert it'll ignore it when you generate the route
14:06 Wombert that solve your problem? :>
14:06 Wombert hugs Agavi
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14:10 saracen hugs Wombert
14:10 saracen That did solve the problem, thank you :)
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14:14 CIA-19 simon * r4367 /documentation/trunk/DITA-OT1.5/xsl/ (dita2xhtml_custom_base.xsl dita2xhtml_website.xsl): fixed stylesheet issues: removed heading level and fixed clearing issue for the agavi website
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15:42 CIA-19 simon * r4368 /documentation/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): changed tar extension for stage tarballs, now .tgz instead of .tar.gz
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16:50 CIA-19 simon * r4369 /documentation/trunk/ (13 files in 6 dirs): trimmed white space from dita files and checked for syntax highlighting errors
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17:49 CIA-19 felix * r4370 /trunk/ (6 files in 5 dirs):
17:49 CIA-19 - Adds an AgaviBooleanValidator
17:49 CIA-19 - Adds a testcase for the AgaviBooleanValidator
17:49 CIA-19 - adds a "boolean" shortcut for the AgaviBooleanValidator
17:49 CIA-19 - closes #1169
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18:42 codecop_ agavi works with Doctrine 1.2?
18:44 codecop_ got connection configerrors when trying to change from 1.1 to 1.2
18:44 Rayne i read that it does not work with the latest version
18:45 codecop_ ok will stop trying
18:45 codecop_ :)
18:47 v-dogg umm
18:47 v-dogg why wouldn't it work?
18:47 codecop_ em
18:48 codecop_ smth wrong with the basic database connect config from redracer
18:49 codecop_ it works wit 1.1 doctrine, 1.2 frows error about Long expexted String got
18:51 codecop_ in configuration
19:05 Wombert Rayne: well, interesting
19:06 Wombert someone *could* have filed a ticket...
19:07 Wombert http://www.doctrine-project.org/upgrade/1_2#Removed%20Attribute%20String%20Suppo​rt
19:07 Wombert yeah
19:07 Wombert that's fucking genius
19:07 Wombert gah
19:07 Wombert http://www.doctrine-project.org/upgrade/1_2#Models%20Autoloading
19:07 Wombert also great
19:07 Wombert someone will have to pay me for this
19:07 Wombert grumbles
19:08 Wombert codecop_ and/or Rayne
19:08 Wombert *please* file a ticket
19:09 Wombert and don't say
19:09 Wombert [19:45] codecop_: ok will stop trying
19:09 codecop_ ok
19:09 codecop_ :)
19:09 codecop_ he
19:09 Wombert because that doesn't help anyone :)
19:09 Jarda Wombert: you like orms atm? :)
19:09 Wombert with error messages please
19:09 ttj But! New Top Gear episode and neverending supply of alcohol in the trunk of a car. <3
19:09 Wombert Jarda: I never do
19:09 Wombert Jarda: I haven't really written proper code in years :p
19:10 Wombert I prototype things and talk a lot and tell people what to do and complain about inconsistent whitespace or a missing comment here and there
19:10 Jarda Wombert: yeah, but I was just talking about propel 1.4 and now apparently doctrine 1.2 :D
19:11 Jarda "no one uses, doesn't break bc, etc etc.."
19:11 Wombert yeah
19:11 Wombert I dunno what's so hard about maintaining BC
19:11 Wombert shakes head
19:11 Jarda I couldn't think myself coding without orms though..
19:12 Wombert maybe that should be the agavi motto
19:12 Wombert "doesn't make you angry by fucking up in new releases so you need to sit in the office until midnight"
19:12 graste ^^
19:12 Wombert srsly
19:12 Wombert I can spend the rest of the night on the sodding doctrine bullshit
19:12 v-dogg no need to sit in the office until midnight...
19:13 Wombert because they're fucking hipsters that rather add more unstable features instead of fixing their shit first and being careful
19:13 v-dogg because you can work till midnight at home too!
19:13 Wombert barks
19:13 Wombert oh, now I missed my ubahn
19:13 Wombert need to spend 20 more minutes
19:13 Wombert detonates
19:13 saracen I really like phpcouch :)
19:13 v-dogg 20 minutes to fix doctrine support!
19:14 graste "doesn't call itself MVC when it isn't even close"
19:14 graste "doesn't let you have sleepless nights because you might have forgotten to validate inputs"
19:14 graste you should start a mem or smth
19:14 graste meme
19:14 Wombert saracen: it's just so incomplete :S
19:14 Wombert canhas doctrine sample config plz
19:15 saracen Wombert: It's enough for what I'm doing at the moment it would seem.
19:16 saracen It's a lot easier to tie in real models to couchdb documents though. I just have the phpcouch document as a property of my class, then my own model can just proxy methods / use it's own to interface with the data. Schemaless really wins there
19:16 Rayne Wombert, i just read it here in the chan some days ago - i do not use doctrine
19:17 saracen Absolutely zero setup, which is not something you can say about Doctrine =(
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19:17 v-dogg I guess I could call it a day, too
19:18 Jarda v-dogg: already?
19:18 v-dogg yeah, I'll allow myself it a few times a month
19:19 v-dogg been working 'till midnight almost every fecking day this autumn
19:20 Wombert it at least initializes fine here, codecop_
19:20 Wombert just tested
19:21 Wombert (with the redracer config)
19:21 Wombert (but mabye I have to connect to the db)
19:21 Wombert zomg setting up mysql
19:21 Wombert durr
19:21 Jarda mysql :(
19:22 Wombert PDO Connection Error: SQLSTATE[HY000] [2002] Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/opt/local/var/run/mysql5/mysqld.sock' (2)
19:22 Wombert works so far
19:23 Wombert except the attributes don't
19:23 Wombert fuck this
19:23 Wombert fuck you doctrine
19:23 Wombert god
19:23 codecop_ when i was trying to test 1.2 theare wasnt db created
19:23 Wombert and it failed?
19:23 Wombert it doesn't happen here, so I'll need help with reproducing this
19:24 Wombert FUCK THIS
19:24 Wombert * @param mixed $attribute either a Doctrine_Core::ATTR_* integer constant or a string
19:24 Wombert * corresponding to a constant
19:24 Wombert they drop the feature without deprecating it first
19:24 Wombert and then they leave the comment in place
19:24 Wombert bloody amateurs
19:26 codecop_ i will reproduce all bads what i got tomorow
19:26 sth yay sg-1 in german.
19:26 saracen throws water at Wombert
19:26 saracen sth: Caprica s00n.
19:26 sth :)
19:27 Wombert god fucking damnit
19:27 saracen Well, end of January, but thats gone fast
19:27 saracen Wombert: You're being a stereotypical angry german =(
19:27 saracen sth: We should probably protect MikeSeth, he's Jewish =(
19:28 Rayne olol
19:29 Wombert MikeSeth is much angrier than I am
19:29 Wombert besides
19:29 sth saracen: Wait for him to invade poland first
19:29 Wombert I'd invade Britain first anyway
19:29 Wombert heh
19:29 saracen lol
19:29 Wombert great
19:29 Wombert doctrine
19:30 Wombert now I missed my subway again
19:30 sth They're every 10 mins...
19:30 ttj But aren't all Jews experts in Krav Maga?
19:30 Wombert but I'd have to change at neuperlach
19:30 sth Or you get the s-bahn to Ostbahnhof
19:30 Jarda ttj: coming to turku agile day?
19:30 Wombert yes ttj
19:30 Wombert are you?
19:30 sth fucking crap free internet
19:31 saracen http://www.doctrine-project.org/upgrade/1_2#Removed Attribute String Support
19:31 saracen I wonder how much of a performance it gives ;x
19:32 ttj Jarda: Dunno. I can come by and drink beer.
19:32 sth I swear, I'm going to find this "Dave" guy and stab him for offering such a crap internet connection
19:32 saracen sth: Unsecured wifi?
19:32 sth Fon access point
19:32 sth So it's legal, but crap
19:33 sth Still, better than my connection.
19:33 saracen I suppose in Germany you have to get used to everything being second rate
19:33 sth It's a 3rd world country
19:33 saracen I feel sorry for you =(
19:34 saracen Wombert, have you seen Inglourious Basterds yet?
19:35 Wombert saracen: NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN
19:35 Wombert :>>
19:35 Wombert (I haven't, no)
19:35 saracen I do wonder what your thoughts would be about it ;)
19:35 Wombert I'll likely find it funny
19:35 Wombert I love jokes about germans and the war
19:36 Wombert mind you the fawlty towers episode is one of the best things in comedy history
19:36 Wombert HABEN SIE VERSTANDEN MEIN HERR?
19:36 Wombert ICH GEHE JETZT NACH HAUSE JAWOHL
19:36 Wombert bai
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19:36 saracen ragequit
19:37 saracen DOCTRINE MAKES ME INVADE COUNTRIES waaaaaaaa waa
19:37 saracen I wonder if Wombert still checks the IRC logs ;)
19:44 Jarda you are all crazy
19:44 saracen ;o
19:44 saracen I resemble that statement!
19:56 Jarda oh, first time gmail marks !spam as spam
19:56 Jarda agavi trac emails go to spam
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22:23 WasabiCat huomenta Xylakant
22:46 Xylakant hey
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09:13 sth Morning
09:14 codecop_ huomenta
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09:39 graste huomenta
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10:04 CIA-19 felix * r4371 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
10:04 CIA-19 - Changes the AgaviBooleanValidator to cast accepted values to the respective boolean values
10:04 CIA-19 - Added respective assertions
10:04 CIA-19 - Added 2 more invalid values to test
10:04 CIA-19 - refs #1196
10:19 E_mE huomenta
10:19 Xylakant good mornign
10:19 E_mE sth why did you get your self an old but new camera?
10:19 E_mE im intrigued
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10:22 sth E_mE: I wanted to experiment
10:23 E_mE cool... I had loads of old cameras once when i was little
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11:29 _cheerios HALLELUJA!
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11:46 CIA-19 felix * r4372 /trunk/src/validator/AgaviBooleanValidator.class.php:
11:46 CIA-19 Whitespace fix, stick to the coding standard
11:46 CIA-19 - refs #1196
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12:27 CIA-19 felix * r4373 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
12:27 CIA-19 - Changed behavior so that the original value is not changed when the validated value is exported.
12:27 CIA-19 - adds a test for the behavior
12:27 CIA-19 - refs #1196
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13:29 E_mE Xylakant: you got a few minute bit later to talk about modular routing?
13:30 E_mE because i managed to get it working a couple of months ago
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13:59 Xylakant not atm
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14:33 E_mE Xylakant: no sweat, not till later :)
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14:42 Xylakant I'm on the train later but I guess I can at least respond to your email
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14:42 Xylakant you could send me your implementation, having a look at the code might help
14:43 E_mE okay
14:43 E_mE enjoy your trip :)
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15:06 sth Xylakant: Back to Munich or elsewhere?
15:06 Xylakant tonight I'll go to my mothers place, but I'll continue to munich tomorrow morning
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15:50 saracen sth: Do you know a guy called Karl Allen?
15:51 sth No
15:53 sth Well, maybe. Unsure
15:53 saracen Guy from peterborough, not sure if he attended colleage or not. You'd probably remember him, he pretty much has no legs
16:08 E_mE OMG!! Cat actually saying Nom nom nom: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/52aad30152/cat-says-nom-nom-nom?rel=player :D
16:09 Xylakant E_mE: could you send me that routing code, I'll be leaving in like an hour
16:10 E_mE ah, ill send you an example of what i did couple months back
16:10 E_mE i need to get me laptop...
16:10 E_mE give me few mins
16:10 E_mE pm me you're email
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16:59 sth I love the irony of this, an ant task that gets the deps for the package doesn't have the deps to run :D
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17:04 Treffynnon is there a way to get an equals validator to fail silently?
17:07 Treffynnon param severity = silent
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17:09 graste yes Treffynnon - http://www.mivesto.de/agavi/agavi-faq.html#validation_3
17:11 Treffynnon graste: thanks. i found it in the AgaviValidator.class seconds after asking. mivesto.de is your site isn't it? Been very helpful!
17:16 graste yes, if you've got suggestions for the faq, mail me :)
17:17 graste same if you find errors in the faq
17:17 graste or unclear sentences etc
17:17 saracen The thing I hate about your faq
17:17 saracen is the location/name
17:17 saracen I can never remember it =(
17:17 graste google agavi faq -> 1st hit
17:18 saracen lol, I think I can remember that :)
17:18 graste ^^
17:18 graste thought so
17:18 saracen Usually I put in keywords relating to my question I think =(
17:19 saracen Which generally gives me agavi trac
17:19 graste now you know the secret
17:19 graste <:
17:19 saracen :)
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12:21 Wombert ponders
12:24 sth Hey
12:24 sth You're in the office?
12:28 Wombert ja
12:28 Wombert you at felix' place?
12:29 Wombert hey did you take my headphones, sth?
12:29 Wombert 'cause if not, I lost them
12:29 Wombert that would be arse
12:29 sth I have my headphones.
12:30 sth check your bag
12:30 Wombert nope
12:30 sth I don't have yours unless they're in myjacket
12:30 sth Nope
12:31 Wombert I thought I put them in my coat but they aren't there
12:31 sth I'll come to the office, bbi10
12:31 Wombert kek
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13:11 _cheerios huomenta
13:25 ttj Yo.
13:33 _cheerios how's life, ttj? i had a great night yesterday. so relieved sat+sun can be 100% relaxing (= programming) :p
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14:06 _cheerios gdamnit, modem can transfer full speed but dns resolution is flaky at best.
14:50 ttj Life's ok. Just watched a bit of MMA.
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14:55 ttj Yay! Tailor just SMSed; my suit's ready!
14:56 _cheerios kick ass in style
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15:12 ttj _cheerios: Quick beer?
15:12 _cheerios if youre in leppävaara, yes. otherwise, no. im going out to gym in an hour :)
15:13 ttj Pfft.
15:14 _cheerios this one girl painted her boobs into my brain yesterday. rauchy one. gotta admire her cunningness w/the dress + what she did to everyone.
15:14 _cheerios russians...
15:17 ttj Yep, gotta love Russian chicks. Despite some bad experiences.
15:21 ttj Speaking of which, I got 15% of our Russian secretary for 1H2010. :P
15:24 _cheerios cheers to that!
15:29 _cheerios -> exercise
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19:43 _cheerios actions and consequences, sigh
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12:38 E_mE Is it possible to put $inner into an action's template? If the action is executed by a slot.
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18:49 skoop Wombert: those airfares are just crazy
18:49 Wombert skoop: no, just certain dates
18:49 Wombert you must have a saturday in your stay
18:49 skoop yeah, but isn't that strange
18:50 Wombert you *must* return on sunday the 14th
18:50 skoop what do the airlines care what days you fly
18:50 Wombert according to my research
18:50 skoop Wombert: I'm currently looking at arriving the 6th
18:50 skoop and then flying back the 12th
18:50 Wombert skoop: no need
18:50 Wombert skoop: won't work
18:50 Wombert skoop: too expensive
18:50 skoop Wombert: that's what the conference is offering me
18:50 Wombert actually, that's 528 euros
18:50 Wombert so that would work
18:50 skoop except I have to pay one hotelnight
18:50 Wombert let me check what flights those are
18:51 Wombert return on 18:40
18:51 Wombert that sounds okay
18:51 skoop I really need to fly back on the 12th
18:51 skoop it's my grandma's birthday on the 14th
18:52 skoop I can't miss that
18:52 Wombert k
18:52 skoop I just think it's stupid that I need to have a saturday in my stay
18:52 Wombert if you fly on the 6th
18:52 Wombert ask them to put you on the same flight as we are
18:52 skoop you are flying on the 6th?
18:52 Wombert but you have to depart at 7:10 then
18:52 Wombert yes, there was no other cheap combination
18:52 skoop 7:10 from where?
18:53 Wombert ams
18:53 skoop ah, that is doable
18:53 skoop and "we" is you and thephp.cc ?
18:53 Wombert me and Ze Germans, yes
18:53 Wombert 7:15-8:25
18:53 Wombert stopover in FRA
18:53 Wombert then the 11:10 to YUL, that's where we are all on
18:53 skoop you're flying from AMS to FRA, and then to montreal?
18:53 Wombert I'm flying MUC-FRA-YUL
18:53 skoop aaah that way
18:54 horros hihihi
18:54 horros Berlusconi got punched in the face!
18:54 horros hihihi
18:54 v-dogg wootwoot
18:54 horros http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8410946.stm
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18:54 Wombert skoop: my seat on the AC875 flight is 23G
18:54 horros Like I said in that other chan over there, <horros> Serves him right for being a douchebaggy douchebag.
18:55 skoop Wombert: I'm not sure I will be doing that actually, I might fly a bit later to spend some time with the family first
18:55 skoop I'll be away a full week
18:56 Wombert skoop: from what I can tell, there is no other combination if you want to return on the 12th
18:56 Wombert flying out after the 6th costs 900 euros
18:57 skoop Wombert: but that's not the only flight to Montreal on the 6th, surely
18:57 Wombert let me check
18:57 v-dogg horros: he'll make up a law allowing him to execute the attacker
18:58 Wombert yes, but you will have two stopovers then, skoop
18:58 skoop hmz
18:58 horros v-dogg: Yes, probably.
18:58 horros v-dogg: I liked his comment too: "They paint me as a monster, but I don't think I am one - firstly because I am good-looking and secondly because I'm a decent chap".
18:58 horros :DDDD
18:58 Wombert skoop: unless you want to arrive at midnight, you need to depart at 10:50 at the latest
18:58 v-dogg :)
18:59 Wombert skoop: hmm
18:59 Wombert skoop: hang on
19:00 Wombert skoop: hm, nope, air france and friends also need you to fly 6th-12th
19:01 skoop yah
19:01 skoop I'll give my preferences to the conf and see what proposal they come up with
19:01 skoop this conference is becoming a bit of a pain in the ass
19:01 skoop mostly without their fault
19:01 skoop but still
19:01 Wombert skoop: for the outbound flight on the 6th, try to get this
19:02 Wombert AC9076 07:15 AMS 08:25 FRA
19:02 Wombert AC875 11:10 FRA 13:25 YUL
19:02 Wombert again, my seat on the FRA-YUL flight is 23G if you want to choose one next to me or so
19:02 skoop yeah, but that's *early* ;)
19:03 skoop ok, I'll ask them to see what they can do in terms of booking me on a later flight that day
19:03 skoop but give this info as a fallback if there are no other options
19:04 Wombert skoop: check twitter DMs
19:05 Wombert dinner
19:05 Wombert &
19:06 skoop Wombert: right, now I see. if I take a later flight on the same day, it's becoming hella expensive
19:06 skoop Wombert: I'll leave it in the hands of the conference for now :)
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19:22 skoop Wombert: for when you're back: thanks for doing that research, I suck at finding flights obviously ;) ... I've asked the conference organizers for a proposal on flights with some of my preferences, we'll see what they come up with
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19:47 Wombert skoop: nah it's just 30 euros more
19:47 Wombert :)
19:53 __cherhome hmm, seems network problems could be due ubuntu 9.10 breaking drivers.
19:54 __cherhome the wlan-toggle (d-link) i've been using has been nothing else but headache...
19:56 skoop Wombert: ah well. sent an e-mail to the conference organizers, we'll see what they come up with
19:56 skoop I just hope they at least book Star Alliance, but since they asked for my frequent flyer number I would expect them to use that :)
19:56 Wombert btw, I told them I'd book my own flight and they'll reimburse me :)
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19:56 Wombert just not sure when they'll do that :p
19:58 skoop hehe
19:58 skoop I just can't make that kind of expensive
19:58 skoop *expense
19:58 Wombert oww nice
19:58 Wombert there's a welcome lounge in FRA
19:58 skoop I'm sort of hoping that if I get accepted to tek, they'll somehow make an arrangement with me :)
19:58 Wombert good thing I booked the later flight on to MUC
19:58 Wombert skoop: err... why?
19:59 Rayne is the latest doctrine version now compatible with agavi?
19:59 skoop because tek usually only reimburse
19:59 Wombert skoop: they're covering travel costs
19:59 skoop afaik
19:59 Wombert ah
19:59 skoop Wombert: yeah, by sending you a cheque
19:59 Wombert check?
19:59 Wombert durr
19:59 Wombert americans...
19:59 Wombert Rayne: having trouble?
19:59 Wombert "The Welcome Lounge is open every day from 5.30 am to 12.30 pm for all passengers disembarking in Frankfurt from an intercontinental Lufthansa flight."
19:59 Wombert fark
19:59 Wombert stabs lufthansa
20:00 Rayne Wombert, just interested
20:00 skoop Wombert: why the stabbing?
20:00 Wombert skoop: it's an Air Canada flight :<
20:01 skoop Wombert: but you book lufthansa, right? or does that really matter?
20:01 Wombert I booked through Air Canada
20:02 Wombert because the booking classes give me more miles *and* it was cheaper
20:02 skoop ah
20:02 Wombert (and code shares are always bad for miles, because you never know what booking class the operating airline will put you in)
20:02 skoop Wombert: but then it's not Lufthansa's fault :)
20:02 Wombert well, no, but the stupid lounge is only for people from a lufthansa flight
20:03 skoop yeah, so you should've booked Lufthansa ;)
20:03 skoop Wombert: where's that german gruntlichkeit? :)
20:03 Wombert or
20:03 Wombert hmm
20:03 Wombert "Since January 2009, HON Circle members, Senators, Frequent Travellers and First Class and Business Class passengers arriving in Frankfurt can start enjoying the new welcome lounge's service."
20:03 Wombert ah
20:03 Wombert nah lufthansa doesn't operate FRA-YUL
20:03 Wombert it would be an AC flight with codeshare
20:03 Wombert :)
20:04 skoop ah right
20:04 Wombert so
20:04 Wombert booking the *same* flights on lufthansa would have been more expensive
20:04 skoop but you must be frequent flyer by now?
20:04 Wombert (they're greedy germans)
20:04 Wombert yeah I am
20:04 Wombert so I can just use a normal lounge
20:04 Wombert they also have showers
20:04 Wombert <3
20:04 skoop :)
20:10 skoop right, time to go offline, Fringe is starting soon :)
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20:52 sth Wombert: Booked the flights to the UK yet?
20:53 Wombert sth: no
20:53 Wombert since I haven't reached Alex yet
20:53 Wombert sth: did you know that dita specializations require no modifications to XSLs?
20:53 Wombert that is quite interesting
20:53 Wombert (well, unless you want special output styling or so)
20:54 Wombert it means that we can use specializations ourselves, and maybe even support custom specializations, as such projects would work without hiccups in other products
20:54 sth No, but then, I also need to read every scrap of docs on the open toolkit .
20:55 Wombert I ordered another book on dita
20:55 Wombert the German one I have here is very very good
20:55 Wombert alas, it's in German
20:55 Wombert :)
20:56 sth Is the new book in German?
20:56 Wombert english
20:56 sth Yay
20:56 Wombert however
20:56 Wombert Lieferung voraussichtlich: 31. Dezember 2009 - 7. Januar 2010
20:56 sth So just in time for the alpha
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21:13 sth Wombert: I want an apple tv.
21:13 sth Or an old mac mini
21:22 sth Boxee looks nice though
21:22 sth And it's cheap
21:22 sth $200
21:24 Wombert I suppose we could arrange something
21:24 Wombert apple tv is fail
21:24 Wombert anyway, nn
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08:47 _cheerios huomenta
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08:56 graste huomenta
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09:33 sth Stuck using a German keyboard :x
09:37 Xylakant oh, poor you. no english special chars...
09:37 Xylakant oh, you don't have any anyways...
09:39 graste <:
09:40 sth The batteries are flat in my keyboard
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10:10 saracen sth: haha.
10:10 saracen Remind me, rather than QWERTY, what's the initial keys?
10:11 sth It's been 40 minutes with this keyboard and I already feel I should be invading a country
10:11 sth QWERTZ
10:12 sth ZE VHY IS NOT NEEDED AZ MUCH, ZO ZHEY REPLACED IT WITH A Z
10:17 saracen lol
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10:19 sth You know, I've yet to meet a German that speaks like that
10:20 saracen fuck you
10:20 saracen dont ruin the dream =(
10:20 sth I know
10:20 sth I hope everyday that'll I'd meet one who has an accent like that
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10:41 E_mE Is it possible to echo the $inner; variable inside a slot?
10:41 E_mE so say my master template is made up of 3 slots
10:42 E_mE and one of thsoe slots contains the $inner var
10:42 E_mE because I'm having trouble with it at the moment
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10:54 graste ?
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13:04 SpOOner Huomenta
13:05 SpOOner I have a separate class which checks if the captcha code is ok. If not i want to add a Validator error of this form. How i can set it in the action?
13:07 Xylakant SpOOner: why don't you write a validator for that?
13:07 Xylakant It's simple, quick and better reusable
13:07 Xylakant you'll have more than one form sooner or later
13:07 SpOOner aha hmm good idea
13:09 SpOOner there is no article for writing own Validators --> http://trac.agavi.org/wiki/Deprecated/0.11.0/Validation#writingyourownvalidator
13:09 SpOOner where can i read about it?
13:09 matbtt you can check the Agavi source code
13:10 matbtt or check http://www.mivesto.de/agavi/agavi-faq.html#validation_17
13:10 Xylakant try http://www.agavi.org/documentation/tutorial/step3/custom-validators.html
13:15 simoncpu http://simoncpu.wikia.com/wiki/Agavi_-_Validation <--- not a tutorial... just a bunch of personal notes
13:26 E_mE Xylakant: is it possible to put $inner inside a slot?
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13:26 Xylakant what?
13:26 E_mE well ive got 3 slots in my master template
13:26 Xylakant yes
13:26 E_mE then one of those slots, called Desktop
13:26 E_mE has another slot and also $inner
13:27 E_mE though the content which is meant to be present in $inner never appears to display :(
13:27 Xylakant how do you get the content into "$inner"?
13:28 E_mE yes
13:28 Xylakant $inner is either the return of the layer one further up the chain
13:28 E_mE shouldnt it be available?
13:28 Xylakant which is the inner layer in a decorator template
13:28 Xylakant or it's the return value of the view's execute method
13:28 Xylakant otherwise it's not filled
13:29 E_mE odd, because my main request action return little bit of HTML present in the template
13:29 Xylakant so how do you try to get content into $inner?
13:29 E_mE but doesn't appear :S
13:29 E_mE just echo $inner;
13:29 E_mE inside my slot
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13:30 Xylakant where do you expect the content to come from?
13:30 Xylakant which content do you think should be displayed?
13:30 E_mE not 100% sure, i expected it to be populated as wiht normal usage in the master template
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13:30 Xylakant which layers does the slot have?
13:31 E_mE which? the slot thats executing echo inner in it?
13:31 Xylakant yes
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13:32 E_mE not sure
13:32 E_mE do var_dump getContainer()->getLayer()?
13:32 Xylakant erm
13:33 Xylakant getLayers() would be more appropriate, but a count(getContainer()->getLayers()) will probably be sufficient
13:33 Xylakant I'd expect that to be 1
13:34 E_mE hmpf, my apache has got really slow since osx 10.6.2 was installed :/
13:34 Xylakant I'm using lighty...
13:34 saracen Thats what you get for using a mac
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13:34 E_mE lighty?
13:34 Xylakant I'd say that's what you get for using apache, but that's not true
13:34 Xylakant lighttpd
13:34 E_mE lighttp?
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13:35 Xylakant anyways, how many layers do you have in your slot?
13:35 sth saracen: you missed one
13:36 saracen Yeah, you can only hold apple responsible. They now make bad software for PCs, but call it good software for non-PCs-that-are-PCs
13:36 sth "That's what you get for being German..."
13:36 saracen sth: =(
13:36 Xylakant and how does the slot's executeHtml() look like
13:36 Xylakant I'm german and my lighty is fast.
13:36 Xylakant so it
13:36 Xylakant 's not the keyboards fault.
13:37 E_mE Xylakant: what am i looking at, in the var dump of the layers?
13:37 Xylakant I need the number of elements in that array
13:37 saracen More importantly, what should I have for lunch?
13:37 sth Although one of my friends posted: Knock Knock, who's there? Gestapo. Gestapo who? Ve vill ask ze questions here.
13:37 Xylakant pork in mint sauce,
13:38 E_mE_ Xylakant: http://pastie.textmate.org/private/1zaqcpupcjbw1kzy5t7ula
13:38 E_mE pork with mint sauce ewww
13:38 sth You serve lamp with mint sauce
13:38 sth lamb*
13:38 sth Apple sauce with pork
13:38 saracen LAMP with mint sauce
13:38 E_mE a lamp huh :P
13:38 saracen I bet thats slower on a mac
13:39 sth :(
13:39 sth We have mamp for a mac
13:39 saracen LAMP with Apple sauce will be really, really slow
13:39 Xylakant E_mE_: that's one single layer
13:39 saracen sth: I thought it'd be called iAmp
13:39 Xylakant so unless you return something from your view's executeHtml() method $inner will be empty
13:40 sth I hate BA
13:40 Xylakant it's called MAMP - which sounds ridicously stupid
13:40 E_mE_ so in my Workspace/Content action (Desktop) I need to return the content from the main request action?
13:41 E_mE_ so return main_request_content;
13:41 Xylakant what?
13:41 Xylakant what the F*** are you trying to achieve?
13:41 E_mE_ heh
13:41 Xylakant what do you expect to be in $inner?
13:42 E_mE_ well ive got a master template with 3 slots, then slots['Desktop'] containers the template which has $inner
13:42 E_mE_ and $inner should be the main requested action
13:42 E_mE_ let me pastie the configs
13:42 Xylakant E_mE_: won't work
13:42 E_mE_ oh
13:42 sth I think I want to stab BA's CEO
13:42 Xylakant a slot cannot display content from the main requested action
13:43 E_mE_ oh, that screws up my plans :S
13:43 Xylakant it's rendered before the template of the main view is rendered
13:43 E_mE_ ja, executed first
13:43 Xylakant the view, yes
13:43 E_mE_ so you can only display $inner in the master template
13:43 Xylakant no
13:43 Xylakant $inner depends on the context
13:44 Xylakant a slot can have multiple layers
13:44 E_mE_ you want to see the configations ive used?
13:44 E_mE_ oh
13:44 Xylakant and $inner is the content of the next-inner layer
13:44 E_mE_ as in the most indented one?
13:44 E_mE_ in the configurations
13:44 Xylakant and on the innermost layer, it's the return value of the view's execute method
13:44 E_mE_ http://pastie.textmate.org/private/pxxhezpqiiszz8w3sth2w <--- thats me output types
13:45 Xylakant no, the first one in the list
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13:45 Xylakant so on the layer named "decorator" $inner is the content of the layer named "content"
13:46 Xylakant on the layer named "content" it's the return value of the view's executeHtml method
13:46 Xylakant think about those russian stacking dolls
13:46 E_mE_ so i need to move <layer name="content" /> inside the decorator layer?
13:46 Xylakant $inner is always the next-smaller one
13:46 Xylakant you cannot nest layers
13:47 E_mE_ so with the configuration ive got now, is it possible to simply move the content somewhere for it to work?
13:47 Xylakant no
13:48 Xylakant there is no way that you get the rendered output of the main action into the desktop slot
13:48 E_mE_ how is the best way of getting around this then?
13:48 E_mE_ :/
13:49 Xylakant If I only knew what you're trying to do
13:49 E_mE_ ill draw it
13:49 Xylakant yeah, that might help
13:51 E_mE_ hope this helps: http://pastie.textmate.org/private/8o53voe90gpk1bj0u7otw
13:52 E_mE_ Xylakant: ^
13:53 E_mE_ sth: why the violence against BAs CEO?
13:53 Xylakant you can't use a slot to wrap the main view
13:53 sth For being a dick and probably forcing a strike
13:54 Xylakant you can use another layer
13:54 Xylakant why are you trying to use a slot?
13:54 E_mE_ because thats the only way i really knew
13:54 E_mE_ which obviously doesnt work :P
13:55 Xylakant well, are you trying to execute some code?
13:55 Xylakant or is it just for layout purposes?
13:55 E_mE_ well its for layout and the possibility that maybe some code needs to be executed around the main content or so
13:55 E_mE_ just trying to keep the option open
13:56 Xylakant if you need to execute code "around" another action, use a filter
13:56 E_mE_ ah okay
13:56 Xylakant if you need to wrap some layout around the output, use a decorator template
13:57 E_mE_ okay ill try working with putting the $inner in to the decorator template and us filters
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13:58 E_mE_ i best head to the post office, ill try out the different method Xylakant ... thanks for the advice :)
13:58 Xylakant as I said, you can have two nested decorator templates
13:58 E_mE_ two decortators
13:58 E_mE_ you got any examples of this?
14:00 E_mE_ Xylakant: ill be back in a while :) thanks again
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15:43 nfq agavi site http://www.icinga.org/
15:43 nfq check it out sth Xylakant
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15:47 Xylakant nfq: we blogged about that a while ago ;)
15:47 nfq haha ok, cool
15:47 nfq didn't realise!!
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21:40 _cheerios heimoi!
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21:40 _cheerios Questions: 1159052045 Slow queries: 10901938 << i'll try to learn sql next year...
21:41 ttj Is your service thingy up already?
21:41 _cheerios no. been too busy xmas partying and smooching with a new girl.
21:43 ttj Yet another new girl?
21:49 _cheerios this one will work out :)
21:52 ttj Champagne on Friday?
21:53 _cheerios sounds good
21:53 ttj Also, free booze at The Tiger.
21:54 _cheerios are things that bad in finland? :D
21:55 _cheerios last time i was in tiger.. do not want to recollect.
21:55 ttj They have an x-mas party for the people who were dumb enough to spend too much money there.
21:55 _cheerios i got a party ticket last i was there. never went to the party.
21:56 ttj Anyway, the invitation was +1, but the SO is going up north on Friday, so I have to get someone else to join me in destroying as much booze as possible.
21:57 _cheerios im sure i can help. there's an xmas party that evening too, should be good. was thinking of getting tickets for Raskas Joulu, but they're sold out
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05:32 simoncpu ei
05:32 simoncpu what happened to the agavi wikipedia page?
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08:05 MugeSo Huomenta
08:06 MugeSo How can I setup an action only for SSL access?
08:12 MugeSo Does agavi provide something special feature such as filter?
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08:15 v-dogg write a route for it
08:15 v-dogg never tried but should be easy
08:18 v-dogg source="_SERVER[HTTPS]" pattern="^on$"
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08:30 v-dogg MugeSo: let us know how it went :)
08:31 MugeSo I'll try it :)
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08:45 MugeSo v-dogg: it doesn't work :(
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08:59 MugeSo oh, it seems apache configuration problem.
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09:12 graste huomenta
09:23 MugeSo v-dogg:works!! thanks! :D
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09:57 Wombert ohai
09:57 Wombert ohai MugeSo :)
09:57 Wombert graste: on twitter now eh?
09:58 MugeSo hi Wombert :)
09:58 Wombert how are you doing my friend
09:59 macen i seem to remember phoning you Wombert about a free holiday...weirdly....
09:59 Wombert macen: pardon?
10:00 macen last month...
10:00 macen no?
10:00 Wombert phoning?
10:00 Wombert me?
10:00 Wombert free holiday?
10:00 Wombert what is a free holiday?
10:00 sth Where you don't pay for anything..
10:01 macen yes i remember it for some reason
10:01 sth Wombert doesn't understand the concept of 'free'
10:01 WasabiCat min php version for agavi 1.0.1 is 5.2.8 right?
10:01 macen shrugs
10:01 Wombert WasabiCat: nah
10:01 Wombert 5.2.0 or 5.2.3
10:01 Wombert but the newer the better
10:02 WasabiCat k cool thanks
10:02 Wombert macen: ???
10:02 macen Wombert: i know!
10:02 macen weird.
10:05 Wombert I'd like to quote Jules from Pulp Fiction, but I guess I'd rather not
10:05 Wombert so maybe I'll try again
10:05 Wombert what
10:05 Wombert is a free holiday
10:05 Wombert and what are you talking about
10:09 macen my memory is obviously playing tricks on me
10:09 Wombert ...
10:10 Wombert which still does not answer my question
10:10 Wombert way to waste my time
10:10 Wombert ...
10:11 macen i had your vcard in my phone, it was obviously not you i phoned!
10:12 macen crazy month last month..
10:12 macen heh
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10:33 Jarda If I would want to catch all (unhandled) exceptions and then pass them forward, is there an easy way?
10:34 Jarda I mean, agavi (dispatcher) catches them, but I would like to act like a proxy for them :)
10:45 Wombert you could register a filter for that, for example
10:45 Wombert or
10:45 Wombert in your exception template
10:45 Wombert you run a certain action if $container or $context are not null
10:45 Wombert (which they might be, depending on when the exception occured)
10:51 Jarda the filter sounds nice
10:51 Jarda so that it could be like a "plugin"
11:13 Wombert it does add some overhead though
11:13 Wombert Jarda: what exactly are you trying to dO?
11:14 Jarda I want to log exceptions to an external location without touching the exception template
11:14 Wombert Jarda: but why not use a custom exception template?
11:14 Wombert that's what it's for
11:14 Wombert :)
11:14 Wombert you don't have to change agavi's built-in one...
11:14 Jarda because I want to make it a "plugin"
11:15 Wombert you can define your own, per environment and even per output type
11:15 Wombert I strongly recommend using an exception template
11:15 Wombert you could even
11:15 Wombert log('booh');
11:15 Wombert include('.../exception.php')
11:16 Jarda well, that might work
11:17 Jarda but if I want to act as a "3rd party", just offering logging services which are very easy to implement in ones agavi app, then the filter would be easier
11:17 Jarda they could just add one line to their global_filters and they would be good to go
11:18 Jarda or then they of course could modify their exception template, to call foo($e);
11:21 Wombert or you give them the exception templte and they put that in the config
11:21 Wombert it's not really a difference :p
11:21 Jarda well actually it is
11:21 Jarda if I give them the exception template, I have no idea how to figure out which exception template to then include
11:22 Jarda or then they have to do <setting name="myownexceptiontemplate">....</setting>
11:25 Wombert oh
11:25 Wombert yeah
11:25 MugeSo exception_templates and exception_template element in settings.xml
11:25 Wombert true
11:25 Wombert but still...
11:25 Wombert I'd do it in the exception tpl
11:25 Wombert then the overhead only occurs when an exception actually occurs
11:26 Wombert MugeSo: yeah but... this template should include another exception template then
11:26 Wombert for which you would need a second setting, true
11:26 Wombert not possible either for output types for instance
11:26 Wombert cause it's <output_type exception_template="...">
11:26 Wombert but I think that's a fair tradeoff
11:26 Wombert people should just copy/paste your logging exception tpl
11:26 Wombert that's fair I think
11:28 MugeSo indeed.
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11:36 Jarda mmmm.. I have to think about this
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14:15 CIA-1 david * r4374 /branches/1.0/ (17 files in 13 dirs): Some coding style (quote format) fixes, also closes #1198 (no CHANGELOG entry for stuff like this as usual)
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14:33 CIA-1 david * r4375 /branches/1.0/etc/phing/AgaviPackageTask.php: Fixed typo in [4374]
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Log opened Tue Dec 15 17:14:04 2009
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19:45 _cheerios o_O uppin' avatar expectations... on imdb being compared to cameron classic, said to be just as good if not BETTER o_O
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04:48 graste huomenta
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07:13 Jarda how the fuck should cookies be validated
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08:38 graste if it's content you would expect
08:38 graste format etc.
08:38 graste ?
08:38 graste :>
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08:56 _cheerios huomenta!
08:57 ttj_ Yo.
08:57 ttj_ Time to go buy some ties->
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11:35 macen what's wrong with this output_types.xml? http://paste2.org/p/564135
11:36 macen "XPointer evaluation failed"
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11:39 macen wrong file http://paste2.org/p/564138
11:43 v-dogg you don't have a sandbox element there
11:46 macen aha
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12:43 macen i'm getting 'Too many execution runs have been detected for this Context.' whenever i specify a layout in the view with $this->setupHtml($rd, 'standalone'); with this output_types.xml http://paste2.org/p/564182 ?
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12:48 macen so i need to specify an alternate layout and don't know if the output_types.xml is wrong or whether i'm calling the layout in the wrong way
12:54 Xylakant macen: do you specify this layout in any of your slots?
12:55 macen ah, yes i was doing. thanks
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14:07 E_mE http://xkcd.com/676/ MARUUU!!! :D
14:10 _cheerios heh
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08:55 graste huomenta
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09:51 macen can autoload.xml load all .php files in a directory?
10:07 fnordfish nope
10:07 fnordfish see http://de3.php.net/manual/en/function.spl-autoload.php
10:07 fnordfish you need a class name and a file you associate with that classname
10:08 macen k ty
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10:35 Jarda htc hero <3
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11:25 MikeSeth hay guise
11:25 MikeSeth guess what
11:25 Jarda you're gay?
11:25 MikeSeth 10 days + Agavi = fully working affiliate program
11:26 MikeSeth seriously I wish I could physically lick Agavi to express my excitement
11:28 MikeSeth /i/t
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11:40 Xylakant MikeSeth: we could send you a printout or a chocolate covered cd if you'd like that.
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13:04 sth I'd like to see a chocolate covered print out
13:19 Xylakant you have svn access and a printer nearby. help yourself
13:26 sth David will hurt me :x
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13:40 Xylakant only if you use his chocolate
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16:26 dan_ Huomenta
16:26 dan_ guys, i have a question about rewrites in apache2
16:27 dan_ using agavi generated .htaccess i get url`s like site.com/index.php/about
16:28 sth It means mod_rewrite isn't enabled
16:28 dan_ url`s r generated by $ro-gen() Can i somehow avoin that index.php in irls
16:29 dan_ well in phpinfo it is listed in apache modules
16:31 dan_ suppose u r right
16:31 dan_ thanx, sth!
16:31 sth Do you have allowoverride all in your httpd.conf for the vhost?
16:31 sth or directory
16:32 sth <Dirctory /blah> ...
16:34 dan_ its virtual host and i even don`t have access to any logs
16:36 dan_ got worked with <IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
16:36 dan_ sorry for distrub and many thanx!
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16:53 E_mE sth: you still flying with BA?
16:54 sth No
16:54 E_mE courts over turned the ruling saying it was illegal for the strike
16:55 sth The problem with them moving the strike to the 2nd is, I'd be caught in that strike
16:56 E_mE eek
16:56 sth My return flight was the 3rd
16:56 E_mE which carrier did you choose as an alterative?
16:56 sth Lufthansa
16:57 E_mE good boy :P
16:59 sth heh
16:59 sth I get a cheese sandwich now and a crap chocolate bar
16:59 E_mE crap chocolate...germany.... what! must be foreign chocolate ;)
16:59 E_mE probably American hoho
17:00 sth As Wombert has noticed, there's very little German food in the supermarkets I like
17:01 E_mE give him and Xylakant a jar of Mint Sauce for xmas ;)
17:01 sth heh
17:01 sth They'd only put it on pork
17:01 sth Which as we know is wrong :P
17:02 E_mE hehehe
17:02 Xylakant I'd never waste a good piece of lamb with mint sauce
17:02 sth See.
17:02 sth WRONG
17:02 sth Apple sauce on pork.
17:02 sth Xylakant: Sorry to hear your bad news...
17:03 E_mE personally i've never eatten mint sauce with lamb, I personally find it little strange I have to admit, but blame my mother ;)
17:03 sth I do it all the time
17:04 E_mE do they even sell mint sauce over there?
17:04 sth No idea
17:04 sth It's very rare I cook something like that
17:04 E_mE or do you need to go to a little england shop hehe
17:04 E_mE with Beef eater teddy bears and that jazz
17:04 sth The dept stores tend to stock some english stuff
17:04 E_mE there's one in Koln
17:05 sth Some how, either Wombert or I managed to buy a English red bull can
17:05 E_mE you missing marmite?
17:05 sth here in Munich
17:05 sth I hate marmite
17:05 E_mE bovrel?
17:05 E_mE boveril
17:05 sth I hate all things like it
17:05 E_mE or how ever its bloody spelt
17:06 sth I think you had it correct the first time
17:06 E_mE what German food have you liked then sth?
17:08 sth All the typical meals are nice
17:08 sth It's the stuff you eat when you're snacking which sucks
17:09 E_mE I always found that snacks and crap food is cheap in the UK, but in germany is almost the reverse
17:11 sth Yup
17:11 sth I did find a shop that sold Kettle Chips though :D
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17:13 hzilla YO where might i find documentation for the FPF?
17:13 hzilla it baffles me proper
17:14 sth ...
17:14 sth You give British people a bad name :x
17:14 hzilla i give all people a bad name
17:14 sth http://www.agavi.org/documentation/tutorial/step7/the-form-population-filter.htm​l
17:15 hzilla merci
17:16 E_mE ^&%$£^&% Fucking bollox!! I ordered a xmas tree and now just got an email that its been cancelled FUCK WITSS!
17:16 sth win
17:16 sth :D
17:16 E_mE not win! Loose :(
17:16 E_mE never using that website again... they said they where in stock...
17:18 sth Why didn't you go to B&Q or Wickes etc to get a tree?
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17:20 sth Or to a poorly guarded forest
17:20 E_mE sth: because I can't drive... i'd have to carry it for like a mile
17:20 sth Take it on the bus :P
17:20 E_mE could go scavange the peak district
17:20 E_mE hehehe on the bus, refuse seats to the old biddy for the tree
17:21 sth It's no worse than when mums get on the bus and refuse to fold the pushchair
17:21 sth That really annoyed me when I was in the UK
17:22 sth They wouldn't even ask you to move, they'd just look at you until you gave in
17:22 E_mE look out the window with a walkman ;)
17:22 E_mE and sun glasses
17:22 E_mE i once had this really fat women sit next to me, and didnt even ask me to move my bag, just went to sit on it..
17:22 E_mE managed to get it out the way just before arse mountain squished me bag
17:24 Rayne what's up agavi folks? :)
17:25 E_mE Actually we got some scanavian's here, can you cut me a xmas tree down ;D
17:26 saracen my hands are cold
17:26 sth Is it snowing saracen ?
17:26 E_mE hahah just as you said that i was rubbing my hands together
17:26 saracen sth: It did a little earlier
17:26 sth I have mittens to walm my hands up
17:26 saracen My room is freezing, I havent put the heating on yet
17:27 sth The one fecking year I'm not in the UK and it snows before Christmas
17:27 E_mE saracen: hopefully tomorrow morning will be beautiful outside :D
17:27 saracen sth: Nothings laid
17:27 sth They claim East Anglia should get like 10cm
17:27 saracen It snowed for about 10 minutes while I was driving home. At least, I think it stopped, otherwise I'd just driven out of it
17:27 E_mE has here abit
17:27 saracen not sure
17:28 sth According to the weather report I listened to on the radio
17:28 saracen I hope it snows in the night, then I can pull the old "Can't go to work, its dangerous on these country roads" card
17:28 sth heh
17:28 E_mE saracen: its meant to snow tonight :D
17:29 E_mE 10cm apprently
17:29 saracen E_mE: Where is it you live again?
17:29 E_mE Chesterfield, Derbyshire
17:29 saracen I see ;P
17:29 saracen sth: you coming home this christmas?
17:30 sth Yup
17:30 sth Want to go for a drink?
17:30 E_mE you don't sound too impressed with Derbyshire saracen
17:30 sth Are either of you two going to the PHP London conf?
17:30 E_mE I'm flying to vietnam on the day of the conferences :'(
17:31 E_mE conference*
17:31 E_mE wahh! this will be the second one i've missed... its terrible
17:31 saracen E_mE: I'm not impressed nor unimpressed by it. The only thing I know about derbyshire is that one of my female friends goes there to fuck a married man.
17:31 saracen But I won't hold that against it
17:32 E_mE I see.... hehe
17:32 saracen :P
17:33 E_mE saracen: which county you at again, its north of london somewhere aint it?
17:33 E_mE Norfolk or so
17:33 sth Cambs
17:33 sth He lives in Spalding
17:33 saracen E_mE: You should have an accident while in vietnam, so that you can tell people how you got scars. "Got it in vietnam". It just sounds cool
17:33 E_mE oh ratheerrrr! Cambridgshire :P
17:33 sth rofl
17:34 E_mE saracen: LOL!! yeah it might well happen.. you seen the traffic?
17:34 E_mE that would be pretty cool, 'Got this in 'nam, got this in 'nam too'
17:34 saracen lol, yeah, traffic is well bad
17:35 saracen Seriously, if you're going to lose a leg or two anywhere
17:35 sth "well bad"?
17:35 saracen Try to do it in vietnam
17:35 saracen lol fu sth
17:35 sth saracen is a true product of the Peterborough school system
17:35 sth "that is well bad innit"
17:35 saracen I didnt go to school in Peterborough :P
17:35 saracen Only Primary school
17:36 sth Oh you was one of those losers that got the college coach into college?
17:36 sth :D
17:36 saracen I'm a product of the peterborough bus system, with the kids on the back playing their 1kbps mp3's
17:36 sth haha
17:36 saracen Stagecoach <3
17:36 saracen Seriously, the stories and stuff you hear on there
17:36 saracen I once heard a girl tell another get that her vagina smelt "Shit nice".
17:36 saracen another girl*
17:36 sth I love riding the busses in Peterborough
17:37 E_mE do they drive like maniacs?
17:37 saracen It is an experience, yeah. I had to do the otherday for the first time in a long time
17:37 sth Yes
17:37 sth Plus, as saracen says, you get to hear the worlds best conversations
17:37 E_mE I took the college bus for about year and half in Cornwall, that was some mad driving from time to time
17:37 saracen It's pretty hilarious if the bad shit never happens to you. I've seen people throw up on people
17:37 sth It's like watching Jermery Kyle
17:38 E_mE i thought you get those experiences on every bus
17:38 saracen yeah lol, thats a pretty good description
17:39 saracen I remember getting on the bus once and there was this woman with her child on there. Some alcoholics (from orton center) got on, and they sat right next to her. I thought "Poor mother and child, going to have to put up with those lot now". Anyway, so they sat down. the mother greets them both and pulls out a bottle of vodka and they share it the whole journey
17:39 sth "I was talking to him on the phone but his girlfriend walked in and said I was cheating with him, but I never did nothing with him coz he has an STD and I was like, I'm doing that"
17:39 saracen Sums up Peterborough.
17:39 sth That's one of the conversations I've heard on the bus
17:40 saracen My girlfriend still has to get the bus pretty much everyday to work =(
17:41 E_mE weirdest thing i've seen on a bus was in east london, I was coming back from college one evening, and to the left side of me, few seats ahead, this guy was just staring out of the window (Top deck) and suddly this stampeed of guys ran up the stairs surrounded him. Then they started shouting "who you loooking at!! ..." and punched him like 10 times and ran off the bus...
17:41 E_mE was insane, driver did fuck all
17:41 E_mE not such a nice story i guess
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17:42 saracen I've seen a few fights break out on the buses, and none of them I've never understood. They seem to always be random
17:42 sth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ
17:42 saracen Much like that ^
17:43 E_mE was little weird, women near me started gasping and stuff
17:44 saracen rofl at the 1337 speak
17:44 E_mE im off, have good evening guys
17:44 saracen Cya :)
17:44 saracen sth: that's amazing :). That reminds me, I must screenshot this log before it disappears
17:45 sth ha
17:59 MikeSeth main screen turn on
18:01 saracen left light blink for 12 seconds
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22:49 hzilla is it possible to add an "invalid" class to an element that fails a validation using FPF?
23:14 graste I think you could check the error_class_map parameter of the FPF
23:14 graste <ae:parameter name="error_class_map"><ae:parameter name="self::${htmlnsPrefix}label">invalid</ae:parameter><ae:parameter name="ancestor::${htmlnsPrefix}fieldset | self::${htmlnsPrefix}*">invalid</ae:parameter></ae:parameter>
23:15 graste something like that
23:15 graste don't ask me about XPATH expression ^^
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23:15 graste &
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08:11 saracen sth: http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1482150&threshold=1&commentsort=0&mode=​thread&cid=30483182
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08:45 sth Morning btw
08:45 sth I hate you saracen :P
08:49 saracen :D
08:50 sth So you got 4" of snow last night
08:55 saracen Its snowing a little amount right now, not sure of the depth
08:55 saracen cba to go chec k :)
08:55 saracen check*
08:55 saracen I text my boss "Ok if I work from home this morning? That's a lot of snow". There hasn't been a reply
08:56 saracen If he wanted me to go in, I'm extremely late.
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09:13 sth He probably died on the way to his house.
09:19 saracen He just rang me
09:19 saracen Yay, I get to work from home
09:19 saracen and by work
09:19 saracen I mean get the new items in TF2
09:23 sth Loser.
09:23 sth Play a real game at least
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10:33 macen how should one class interact with another? if i've several classes that extend one and other, should they be models or should they be autoload'ed classes in the lib folder?
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10:36 macen and how would a model extend the functionality of another class? have the class extend the base model and put it in the lib folder?
10:37 macen i feel i'm doing something wrong
10:37 sth You need to do: YourModel extends Class, Class extends BaseModel
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10:39 macen and the class itself could be a model, what is autoload'ed ?
10:41 sth I'd imagine agavi would barf at it, so either try it to see if it barfs, if it does add it to the autoload
10:41 sth or just add it to the autoload first
10:48 macen no barfing
10:49 Xylakant macen, sth: the loading scheme for models is that we first look if the class exists, then check whether we can find the file and as last resort check autoload
10:51 Xylakant however, we do assume that the model name ends in "Model"
10:51 Xylakant so ->getModel('Foo') would want to load the class FooModel
10:51 Xylakant there's no need to actually extend AgaviModel or implement any interface
10:52 macen so if i want to use a set of classes that extend and implement each other, i should autoload them instead of creating models?
10:53 macen it seems as if i am completely bypassing agavi protocol by having classes that extend each other
10:54 macen in fact, i could achieve what i want without using models, so should i? or is it best to have the classes, what do extend each other, in the models directory?
10:54 macen or should everything that doesn't strictly have to be a model, be in the lib folder?
10:54 sth Since we have no idea what you're doing, my answer is fuck knows. :)
10:54 macen haha
10:56 macen let me ask a simpler question then, should a model interact with request data?
10:57 macen and if so, would the action have to pass the parameters from the request data?
10:57 sth A model can use the request data, but I wouldn't do it directly
10:58 macen so the action should tell the model what it needs to know
10:58 sth Or the view.
10:58 macen k
11:07 Xylakant I do agree with sth. A model should try not to access context data either, I'd pass in all that it needs to know
11:08 Xylakant by the way, no matter whether you use the Context::getModel() method or create them with new Foo() you're using models
11:08 Xylakant the Context::getModel() method only exists to ease a certain organization scheme
11:09 Xylakant if you prefer any other scheme, feel free
11:19 macen i'm a little clearer now, thanks
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12:33 macen am i right in thinking the execute*() functions aren't called for slots?
12:33 saracen No
12:34 saracen they're not called if isSimple returns true though, which you'll do more often with slots
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00:07 hzilla hello is there any way a slot can know how many times its been called?
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03:39 MikeSeth hzilla: there's an execution counter somewhere up in the execution chain
03:39 MikeSeth hzilla: but you could achieve the same with e.g. static variables
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13:10 hzilla MikeSeth: yeh i just used a parameter for now but i might switch it for a counter later. thansk
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13:13 hzilla anotehr question about practice.. if i have an error in a form eg. login form user not found, the action should set the error in the validation manager since the error is not trapped during validation?
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13:29 Rayne is it possible to use conditional GET with Agavi and how do i use it with Agavi?
13:32 v-dogg what's a conditional GET?
13:33 Rayne v-dogg, "HTTP allows you to say to a server in a single query: “If this document has changed since I last looked at it, give me the new version. If it hasn't just tell me it hasn't changed and give me nothing.” This mechanism is called “Conditional GET”," from http://fishbowl.pastiche.org/2002/10/21/http_conditional_get_for_rss_hackers/
13:37 v-dogg you can set Last-Modified header in the view
13:38 v-dogg and you could also validate/parse If-Modified-Since and then either return 304 or the actual content
13:39 v-dogg gotta go ->
13:39 hzilla hm - when the isSecure() function returns true it returns the 'login' system action. is that correct? or should it return the 'secure' system action..
13:39 Rayne that's what i wanted to hear v-dogg :>
13:39 Rayne thanks
13:40 v-dogg hzilla: login action
13:40 hzilla so waht triggers the secure action?
13:40 v-dogg secure action is used if the user is authenticated but doesn't have required credentials
13:40 hzilla i see
13:40 hzilla thanks
13:41 hzilla and how might i inject some parameter into the action from isSecure?
13:41 hzilla eg error message?
14:05 MikeSeth how can an action have an error message if it can't be executed because ofmissing privileges?
14:09 MikeSeth hzilla: the security filter executes before the execution filter (where e.g. validation etc happens)
14:10 MikeSeth hzilla: so you can't really inject anything from anywhere in isSecure().. I mean technically you probably can put some code there to perform some hacks.. but I'd rather not
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14:38 hzilla MikeSeth: the scenario is a login page. normally you would see it without an error message, but if i attempt to access a restricted area i would like the same form to read someting to the effect of 'you need to login to view this page'. Since this is handled automatically by isSecure, is there some way teh login action can know that this was trigged by isSecure?
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14:41 hzilla perhaps its possible to add a parameter to the system_action?
14:43 hzilla looks like u can't there
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16:33 dan Huomenta
16:33 dan guys, need your help.
16:34 dan i want to make custom sort order like this: site.com/catalog/12/(brand|pirce)
16:34 dan for this i use one action named Catalog
16:35 dan wha should i put into route? by no i have it like this: <route name=".catalog" pattern="^/catalog/(id:\d+)$" action="Catalog"/>
16:36 Jarda pattern="^/catalog/(id:\d+)/(sort:\w+)$"
16:36 Jarda or
16:36 Jarda pattern="^/catalog/(id:\d+)(/{sort:\w+})?$"
16:36 Jarda in the latter sort is an optional parameter
16:36 dan url can look either /catalog/id or /catalog/id/sort
16:37 dan okay, ill try this. thanx!
16:37 dan should i write something in validator?
16:37 Jarda of course sort has to be validatet
16:37 Jarda the same way as id
16:38 dan and if it's optional, how to mention it in validator?
16:39 Jarda <validator class="string" required="false">
16:42 dan cannot find action
16:43 dan route: <route name=".catalog" pattern="^/catalog/(id:\d+)(/{sort:\w+})?$" action="Catalog"/>
16:43 dan validator: <validator class="string" required="false">
16:43 dan <arguments>
16:43 dan <argument>sort</argument>
16:43 dan </arguments>
16:43 dan </validator>
16:50 dan in debug_backtrace it dispatched to Index module with Error404 action
16:51 dan the same goes for /catalog/5/ (with ending slash)
16:51 Jarda a sec
16:52 dan even <route name=".catalog" pattern="^/catalog/(id:\d+)(/)?$" action="Catalog"/>
16:52 dan doesnt work for /catalog/5/
16:53 Jarda oh, try with sort:\S+
16:53 dan nop (((
16:53 dan nope
16:54 dan goes to Index:Error404
16:55 Jarda if you want id/ to work, then do (/{sort:\S*}))?
16:55 Jarda this really should work
16:55 Jarda or then i am missing something..
16:56 Jarda minus the one ")"
16:57 dan damn… even doesnt work this: <route name=".catalog" pattern="^/catalog/(id:\d+)/(sort:\S*)$" action="Catalog"/>
16:58 dan for /catalog/5/sort
16:58 dan validator is the same
17:00 dan sorry, the last works fine. will locate my problem
17:04 dan works somehow. but $rd->getParameter('sort'); returns null while the same with id is ok
17:06 dan sorry, it works now. forgot to rename var in route
17:07 dan thank you Jarda very much!
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17:50 Jarda no problems
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20:01 MikeSeth hzilla: re: your login page, you should not redirect an already authenticated user to a login page if they trigger the security action
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20:46 dan Huomenta
20:47 dan how can i store user data in login() method?
20:47 dan store in session
20:47 Jarda you use setAttribute
20:48 Jarda $this->setAttribute('foo', 'bar'); (I assume your login()-method is in your user-class (extending AgaviUser)
20:49 dan yes, i extended it to User class
20:50 v-dogg AgaviSecurityUser, I hope
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20:54 dan yeah, class User extends AgaviSecurityUser
20:55 dan it works! you rock, guys, thank you!!!
20:55 dan i should mention how Agavi changed since mojavi times ))
20:56 v-dogg m2 or m3?
21:19 ttj_ Turku mk.
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22:11 dan m2
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22:28 dan guys, can someone give me advise how to make email templates within agavi
22:29 dan in general it would be nice to have email template as a single file with subject, sender, body, etc. and parse it like ordinart agavi template
22:50 hzilla you can create an action/model/template etc for the mail then call it from your mailer inside an execution container with a layout such as 'mail'
22:52 hzilla u would need to make a mailer model so u can set address, title etc, then set the body with the execution container
23:10 dan okay, thank you
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00:09 dan another question )) where can i change default template engine to my own?
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00:17 dan found. thanx
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04:34 dan guys, how can i change master template within module (action or view)?
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06:10 Jarda dan: you make a new layout which has a different master template, then in your view you call $this->setupHtml($rd, 'newlayout');
06:11 Jarda layouts are defined in output_types.xml
06:11 dan i'll try
06:11 dan can i use 'simple' layout ?
06:12 dan heh, it works! ))
06:13 dan i made container like this:
06:13 dan $container = $this->getContext()->getController()->createExecutionContainer('Mailer', 'EmailChanged', $rd, 'html');
06:13 dan $response = $container->execute();
06:14 dan but within EmailChanged $rd is empty & i cannot access post data
06:18 Jarda do you validate your input in EmailChanged?
07:01 dan no
07:02 dan ups, perhaps yes.
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08:04 Jarda afaik you should validate your input in both actions, in the one you create the executioncontainer and in EmailChanged
08:04 Jarda otherwise you don't have anything in $rd
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10:10 MikeSeth derp
10:52 dan is there any referer to model-action in agavi which user came from?
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12:49 MikeSeth dan: you mean HTTP referer?
13:04 dan yes
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13:12 MikeSeth dan: I imagine you can pick it out from the request data object
13:13 MikeSeth $headers = $rd->getHeaders()
13:13 dan thanks, i'll try
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15:40 hzilla_ any obvious reason why FPF won't display validation error messages?
15:40 hzilla_ the validation manager contains the message and field
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15:52 saracen sth_: You're missing white peterborough.
15:52 saracen It hasn't been this white since the Italians moved out of gladstone street
16:03 hzilla_ hmm - i've come across a problem of handling parameters in actions. Say you have a reset password form with an email input field, but you have a login form as a slot on the same page also with an email input field, the login action will error on the lack of password and mess up the response page. how might i work around that?
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16:07 MikeSeth hzilla_: are the form submission URLs identical?
16:07 MikeSeth they shouldn't be
16:09 hzilla_ no its strange, i have a login slot in my main navigation and a reset password form, but for some reason a loginerror is being executed when i try a reset password and that fouls up the fpf
16:19 hzilla_ is there any way to find which view a slot is being called from?
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16:42 sth_ saracen: Racist.
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16:49 hzilla_ this looks buglike to me... the reset password form is sent with write method, then on the response anotehr slot calls a login slot which also is called with the write method even though i'm forcing it to use the 'read' method
16:53 hzilla_ This should call the execute() method in the Common.Login action right? $this->getLayer('content')->setSlot('login', $this->createSlotContainer('Common', 'Login', null, null, 'read'));
16:56 MikeSeth hzilla_: FPF would try to refill the forms on error by default
16:56 MikeSeth it should call executeRead()
16:57 hzilla_ yeh i know. ots not a problem with the FPF - its the fact that a slot is being called with a write method when it never should be
16:57 MikeSeth it would be called by default
16:57 hzilla_ because the whole request is a post?
16:57 MikeSeth yes, unless you specify otherwise
16:58 hzilla_ exactly - i'm specifying otherwise
16:58 hzilla_ and its still calling a write
16:58 MikeSeth is there a layout default?
16:58 hzilla_ yes
16:59 hzilla_ the login write should only ever be called when doing an explict http post to that action. all other calls to that slot are doing with the 'read' as show above however i still get a write validation error
16:59 MikeSeth so when you submit to your reset password form with write method, the login slot is called with write method as well?
16:59 hzilla_ yES!
17:00 hzilla_ even tho i'm calling it as a slot with 'read'
17:00 hzilla_ bizzaro
17:00 MikeSeth make SURE you are configuring the right slot name
17:00 hzilla_ not sure what u mean by that
17:00 MikeSeth check that output_types.xml specifies the slot the same way you do it in forgot password's view
17:00 MikeSeth well
17:01 MikeSeth if your slot is called login in the view and login_slot in outupt types then basically your view configured the wrong slot
17:01 hzilla_ aaaaok let me check that
17:01 MikeSeth and the right one will still be called in write mode
17:01 hzilla_ mofo - i had the login slot in the layout
17:02 hzilla_ so if i just remove it from there i should be good
17:03 hzilla_ ok problem solved. thanks again mike
17:03 hzilla_ xx
17:08 MikeSeth hzilla_: :P
17:12 hzilla_ hopefully u'll enjoy this site when i'm done...
17:14 saracen 16:42:06 < sth_> saracen: Racist.
17:14 saracen Funny, isn't it :)
17:30 sth_ I love how cynical the pogues' fairy tale of NY
17:31 sth_ is
17:55 dan what validator should i use for phone numbers?
18:02 graste you could write your own (and later share it with the community) - otherwise the regexp validator should probably work for simple purposes :)
18:03 graste it's always the question how hard your restrictions for phone numbers in web formas are :>
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18:10 dan thanx.
18:11 dan to keep it simple i'll use string )))
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20:13 dan can someone give me advise about forms?
20:13 dan I have 2 forms within one page (action)
20:13 dan can i independently process them in one action?
20:14 dan because FPF does not allow to ignore required parameters in form 1 when i submit form 2
20:16 v-dogg mm...
20:16 v-dogg FPF doesn't require anything. are you talking about validators?
20:17 v-dogg so you have two forms and both are processed in one action (both have the same url in action="")?
20:22 dan yes, exatcly
20:22 dan design requirements
20:24 v-dogg and your problem is that both forms have required fields?
20:25 dan yeah
20:26 dan one have required fields, another is not
20:27 v-dogg add a hidden field into both forms and make all validators depend on that input being present
20:28 dan its an idea!
20:29 dan maybe i can take a look on validator dependencies someware?
20:29 v-dogg I'll paste an example, just a sec
20:34 v-dogg http://pastie.org/751031
20:38 dan i see. thank you very much!
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20:56 dan well, both are submitted
20:56 dan but the second gives unexpected parameter id instead form fields
21:01 dan second form submits nothing
21:03 v-dogg "both are submitted"? how do you post two forms simultaneously?
21:03 v-dogg or what did you mean by that?
21:03 v-dogg and what gives "unexpected parameter id"?
21:07 dan both forms are submited independently one at one time, so validator allow to do it
21:08 dan first form's data comes to action so i can see it with $rd->getParameters();
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21:08 dan but when i submit second form, nothing comes to action and $rd->getParameters(); is empty
21:13 dan mystics! it works! Yahoo!!!
21:14 dan thank you very much, v-dogg!
21:19 v-dogg ADT is often helpful with mystic validation problems
21:19 Jarda (http://adt.projectbin.org)
21:20 v-dogg it shows you what came in in the first place, what was validated and which validators failed
21:37 dan i was trying to setup this tool. sooner i'll take a closer look on it. thank you )
21:52 v-dogg use it with FirePHP, don't even try the html injection stuff
21:53 v-dogg it sucks in so many levels
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23:03 dan agavi writes some file to app/cache/content/SW5kZXhfUGVyc29uYWw=
23:04 dan while processing form.
23:04 dan and after that stops to process and display form
23:05 dan untill i remove file NC04LTE1LTE2LTIzLTQy.cefcache whthin this directory
23:05 dan what could it be?
23:06 v-dogg would you happen to have an action whichs execute* method doesn't return anything?
23:06 v-dogg whichs is not a word, is it ?-)
23:08 dan let me see
23:12 dan well there were 2 if's and each of them returned view name
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23:13 dan for sure i wrote at the end of method return 'Input';
23:15 v-dogg how about handleError() ?
23:18 dan hm... where can i read about it? )
23:20 dan found
23:21 dan what action should i perform there?
23:23 graste^afk e.g. re-populating fields if FPF doesn't already do all you need
23:23 graste^afk http://www.mivesto.de/agavi/agavi-faq.html#general_18
23:23 graste^afk gn8 internet
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23:28 dan i post data to action. after few seconds blank page is displayed. no errors, no logs. nothing
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23:42 v-dogg dan: I had this very same problem once and it was caused by something (i think it was an action's execute not returning anything) creating an empty content cache file
23:43 dan yes, i found that agavi was trying to write file in unwritable directory
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08:44 graste huomenta
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10:17 Rozza Houmenta!
10:18 simoncpu huomenta dude
11:17 Wombert Rozza!
11:17 Wombert 'sup
11:20 Rozza Yo!
11:20 Rozza Merry Christmas!
11:21 Wombert merry christmas to you, too, Rozza
11:21 Wombert you on vacation already?
11:21 Rozza nah at work
11:21 Wombert good, good
11:21 Rozza fighting nginx
11:21 Wombert till christmas eve?
11:21 Rozza yeap
11:21 Wombert good. good
11:22 Wombert o
11:22 Wombert would you happen to be going to the uk php conf?
11:22 Wombert I'll be in the UK for a few days there in late feb
11:22 Wombert we should grab a beer or lunch
11:23 Rozza probably not - it php :p
11:23 Rozza beer and lunch sounds good
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13:32 saracen snore
13:33 sth_ Hey
13:33 sth_ sets fire to saracen
13:35 saracen =(
13:35 saracen hai
13:35 sth_ Still got snow?
13:36 saracen yup
13:36 saracen It's not snowing, though. Still plenty on the ground though
13:36 sth_ If we get much more, there's a chance my flight will be delayed
13:37 saracen UK wasn't missing you anyway
13:37 saracen Unless of course you're bringing me back some Agavi MM's, some agavi trousers, gloves and boxers.
13:37 saracen M&Ms*
13:38 sth_ Why agavi boxers?
13:38 sth_ And what do you think BX are, a fashion store?
13:38 saracen For the ladies
13:38 saracen of course.
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13:39 saracen The ladies love Agaviisements
13:39 saracen (fail attempt at joining agavi and advertisements)
13:39 sth_ You deserved the fire
13:39 saracen and you deserve Germany
13:41 sth_ You take that back!
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13:53 graste :>
13:53 graste agavi christmas trees should be easy
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17:24 hzilla_ hey in getCredentials how can u check for mutliple credentials, but as an OR not AND
17:25 hzilla_ currently using array('cred1','cred2') requires both
17:27 v-dogg array(array('cred1'), array('cred2'))
17:27 v-dogg (see apidocs AgaviSecurityUser::hasCredentials())
17:28 hzilla_ ok thank u
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17:28 v-dogg http://www.agavi.org/apidocs/agavi/user/AgaviSecurityUser.html
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17:50 hzill__ right so in the action is it correct to use hasCredentials to test and not getCredentials?
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05:13 dan_ Huomenta
05:14 dan_ guys, i placed isSecure() { return true } in base action and in Login action flased it to false
05:14 dan_ and LoginAction gives me template parsed twice
05:14 dan_ what did i missed?
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06:39 v-dogg dan_: do you have a secure action executed in a slot?
06:39 dan_ yes
06:40 dan_ it is navigation widget
06:41 v-dogg that's what's showing the duplicate login form
06:41 v-dogg make it non-secure or use a layout without that slot when showing the login page
06:42 dan_ ok, thanx!
06:43 dan_ how to set master template within Login view?
06:44 v-dogg $this->getLayer('decorator')->setTemplate('OtherMaster'); (and you probably need to alter template dir too)
06:44 v-dogg BUT
06:44 v-dogg don't
06:44 v-dogg make the slot conditional
06:45 v-dogg <?php echo isset($slot['navi']) ? $slot['navi'] : ''; ?>
06:46 v-dogg and then, either "unset" the slot in logininputview or define a different layout without the slot (in output_types.xml)
06:46 dan_ for me its better to setup output_types.xml
06:47 dan_ can i set layer within view with this way?
06:47 v-dogg what do you mean?
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06:48 dan_ if i define new layout in output_types.xml, can i setup this layout within Login view? if yes, how can i do it?
06:49 v-dogg $this->setupHtml($rd, 'speciallayout');
06:50 dan_ oh, yeah, thank you v-dogg !!!!!!
06:50 v-dogg no problem. we aim to please
06:51 dan_ it works! you rock v-dogg ))
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06:52 dan_ i becoming to fall in love in agavi (since mojavi 2 ))
06:53 dan_ another stupid question (sorry)
06:54 dan_ is this correct? <route name=".index" pattern="^(/{category:\d+})?(/{product:\d+})?$" action="Index"/>
06:54 dan_ couse both /product/10 and /product/10/20 return Error404
06:55 dan_ validators are written
06:55 dan_ with required="false"
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08:38 dan_ how to setup validators for read and write methods in action?
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09:02 graste huomenta
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09:28 dan_ i pass product Id in url like this: /update/$id
09:28 dan_ default action is Input
09:29 dan_ in view i cannot get this id even in validator config it is setup
09:29 dan_ guys, what could be a problem?
09:31 graste could you pastie.org snippets for routing, validation and action?
09:32 dan_ min
09:34 dan_ http://pastie.org/752885
09:36 dan_ in view $productId is null
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09:41 graste there's no executeRead() method - <ou could either add one or force your update route to method="write", which is probably okay in this case, as HTTP GETs shouldn't modify anything
09:42 graste another thing: you could create a custom validator to not only check, that the id is numeric, but also to get a valid product - you then export that product to the request so your action/view already hasa your product
09:43 graste and btw it's possible to just use <validators> or even <validators method="read write"> if you need
09:43 dan_ <validators> doesnt work either
09:44 dan_ i was trying with executeRead() too, but unsuccessfuly
09:44 dan_ in action i can get this parameter
09:44 dan_ but in view not
09:50 graste hm, validated parameters should be there in view as well as in your action
09:51 graste your baseaction doesn't set isSimple() { return true; }, does it? ^^
09:55 dan_ nope
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09:55 _cheerios huomenta
09:56 dan_ well, i added Read method and validators, so in GET request view can access product ID. dont know how it happend
09:56 dan_ hour ago didnt work… but thank you for help )
10:08 _cheerios lol @ "Facebook is suggesting for me to "catch up on Facebook" with my wife."
10:15 _cheerios http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/21/nokia-n900-and-the-case-of-the-best-unboxing-​ever/
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11:39 macen any way to specify "pub" as a different folder name?
11:39 macen build system fails when it is renamed
11:42 dan_ guys, could you please explain to me form processing?
11:42 dan_ the case is this:
11:42 dan_ i have form updating product. its url is /update/$id
11:43 dan_ when i sumbit this form and have errors, agavi forwart to ErrorView
11:43 dan_ and there i cannot access $id from query string
11:44 dan_ what cind of validators should i write for this case?
11:44 dan_ *kind
11:47 dan_ is it possible in general to acces GET data while posting a form?
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12:38 dan_ how can i validate multiple checkboxes like name="size[]" where at least one checkbox must be checked?
12:39 sth_ You can use the array validator and then set required=true
12:43 dan_ is this correct for validation? http://www.mivesto.de/agavi/agavi-faq.html#validation_15
12:55 dan_ sth_: no changes. could you please provide just a small example for this case http://pastie.org/753031 ?
12:56 dan_ at least one checkbox must be checked
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13:31 E_mE_ huomenta
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13:37 Wombert dan_: that's easy
13:37 Wombert dan_: unchecked checkboxes aren't submitted by the browser
13:37 Wombert so you'd do your validation in two steps
13:37 Wombert a) make sure that there's at least one checkbox
13:37 Wombert b) check the individual items
13:38 Wombert <validator class="arraylength"><argument>size</argument></validator>
13:38 Wombert and then
13:38 dan_ min?
13:38 Wombert I don't think it needs that
13:38 Wombert let me check
13:38 Wombert but the "arraylength" shortcut should default to min=1
13:39 Wombert yup, it does
13:39 Wombert http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/1.0/src/config/defaults/validators.xml#L1​1
13:40 Wombert yeah and the second validator is then the usual stuff with whatever you need (size... I suppose that's for t-shirts? inarray might do, then) and <arguments base="..."><argument />
13:40 Wombert what's the size checkbox for, dan?
13:44 Wombert I mean dan_ :)
13:44 dan_ fpr clothe size ))
13:44 dan_ clouth
13:45 Wombert dan_: can you explain a bit more?
13:45 dan_ for t-shirts ))
13:45 Wombert do you have several items, and size checkboxes for each?
13:45 Wombert keep in mind that *only* the checkboxes that are checked will be submitted
13:45 Wombert so you cannot use indexes there
13:46 Wombert if you have two <input type="text" name="id[]" /> and two <input type="checkbox" name="size[]" />
13:46 Wombert and only the second checkbox is checked
13:46 dan_ yes, i understood already. thank you very much, Wombert!
13:46 Wombert then you'll get id[0] and id[1], but size[0]
13:47 Wombert dan_: also... might wanna use radio buttons or select boxes for sizes, not checkboxes :)
13:47 Wombert (which would also solve that problem)
13:47 dan_ i pass values for them
13:47 Wombert alternatively, consider a structure like this
13:48 Wombert <input type="hidden" name="items[0][id]" value="1832173" /> <select name="items[0][size]">...
13:48 Wombert you cannot do items[][id] though
13:48 Wombert it'll reindex that otherwise
13:48 Wombert so you'd end up with items[0][id] and items[1][size]
13:48 Wombert so you'd have to generate the first dimension's index by hand
13:54 dan_ thanx! in works!
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15:29 Wombert god fucking damnit
15:29 Wombert why is doctrine such a pile of crap
15:30 hzill__ watsup?
15:30 hzill__ i know that feeling
15:31 Wombert well
15:31 Wombert in doctrine < 1.2 you can do
15:31 Wombert $manager->setAttribute('export', 'none');
15:31 Wombert they dropped that without warning, deprecating, etc, in 1.2
15:32 Wombert so now you need to do
15:32 Wombert $manager->setAttribute(Doctrine::ATTR_EXPORT, Doctrine::EXPORT_NONE);
15:32 Wombert which is bad for e.g. agavi, where you do this through parameters
15:32 Wombert my first attempt was to copy their magic string -> constant methods
15:33 Wombert however
15:33 Wombert $this->doctrineManager->setAttribute('SEQNAME_FORMAT', '%s_sequence');
15:33 Wombert fails on the old versions too
15:33 Wombert as I expected from reading their source
15:33 Wombert gives
15:33 Wombert Unknown attribute value: "Doctrine::SEQNAME_FORMAT_%S_SEQUENCE"
15:33 Wombert in other words
15:33 Wombert it's all arse
15:33 Wombert and I need to spend my valuable time on fixing their shit
15:33 Wombert again
15:33 Wombert which makes me angry
15:33 Wombert </grumble>
15:35 Wombert the solution of course
15:35 Wombert is to do defined() checks and constant() calls for every parameter and value
15:35 Wombert which will be slow
15:36 hzill__ not sure if a ticket was ever made on this but an empty attributes parameter list turns autocommit off since autocommit constant id is 0
15:37 Wombert <ae:parameter name="attributes" />
15:37 Wombert like this?
15:37 hzill__ so if u accidentally leave an empty 'attributes' parameter list in your config you'll spend a day wondering why your saves aren;t working - yeh exactly
15:37 Wombert that shouldn't happen...
15:37 Wombert oh wait
15:37 Wombert it does happen
15:37 Wombert thanks for the heads-up
15:37 hzill__ np
15:37 Wombert a ticket would have been good, yes :p
15:38 hzill__ yeh i
15:38 hzill__ i was supposed to make one ...
15:38 hzill__ my personal autocommit was off
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15:41 hzill__ also the memcache and profiler implementation couldnt' be done through the config. had to extend the class
15:41 Wombert https://trac.agavi.org/ticket/1200
15:42 Wombert yeah I know
15:42 hzill__ i'll pastie my solution if u like
15:42 hzill__ prob not best code but it seemed to work
15:43 Wombert nah, no worries
15:43 Wombert $manager->setAttribute(Doctrine::ATTR_QUERY_CACHE, $cacheDriver);
15:43 Wombert this, right?
15:43 Wombert I guess we can't do that through configuration; people will have to subclass for that
15:43 hzill__ cacheDriver has to be a Doctrine_Cache_& object
15:44 hzill__ yeh or u could add it into as special config section :p
15:45 hzill__ http://pastie.org/753187
15:46 hzill__ profiler is handy too because you can dump the output to ADT
15:55 Wombert this stuff is getting relatively messy I guess...
15:55 Wombert meh
15:56 hzill__ yeh maybe next milestone
15:56 Wombert yeah
16:00 Wombert or stuff like
16:00 Wombert $conn->setAttribute('portability', Doctrine::PORTABILITY_ALL ^ Doctrine::PORTABILITY_RTRIM);
16:00 Wombert meh
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17:00 Wombert fucking doctrine
17:00 Wombert if ($modelLoading == Doctrine_Core::MODEL_LOADING_PEAR) {
17:00 Wombert * @param integer $modelLoading Pass value of Doctrine_Core::ATTR_MODEL_LOADING to force a certain style of model loading
17:00 Wombert * Allowed Doctrine_Core::MODEL_LOADING_AGGRESSIVE(default) or Doctrine_Core::MODEL_LOADING_CONSERVATIVE
17:00 Wombert god damnit
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17:05 hzill__ can validator export parameter whitespace trimmed during validation?
17:09 graste if you use the AgaviStringValidator, probably yes :) http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/1.0/src/validator/AgaviStringValidator.cl​ass.php#L61
17:10 hzill__ thanks i'll try it
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19:35 dan____ guys, how can i validate this form field: <input type="text" name="detail[new][]"/>
19:40 v-dogg http://blog.veikko.fi/post/68983308/agavi-tip-validation-gotchas
19:40 v-dogg <arguments base="rows[]">
19:41 v-dogg oops
19:41 v-dogg <arguments base="detail[new][]">
19:41 v-dogg <argument />
19:42 v-dogg also, see Niklas' comment & example about exporting. might come handy
19:43 v-dogg (Niklas is a.k.a. Jarda)
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21:42 dan____ guys, is it possible to print_r() validator`s errors ?
21:48 v-dogg print_r($this->container->getValidationManager()->getErrors());
21:48 v-dogg or $container->getV... in a tempalte
21:49 v-dogg template
21:49 v-dogg err.. $this->getContainer()->
21:49 v-dogg but ADT+firephp/firebug is always nicer
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00:47 dan____ many thanx for help! may i ask yet another stupid question? )
00:48 dan____ I have 3 inputs <input type="file" name="images[]" />
00:48 dan____ at least one image must be uploaded
00:49 dan____ i want to validate images and at the same time validate that at least one image is uploaded
00:49 dan____ is it real or i want impossible?
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01:32 hzilla you could possibly use a class="isset" validator which provides="image" which then triggers another validator depends="image" - not sure if that works for files
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07:06 skeud hello everyone
07:06 skeud i've a quick question
07:07 skeud I have two route which use the same module/action/view
07:07 skeud but I want to separate the template which isnt the same
07:08 skeud do i just check the route in the view and redirect to the correct template
07:08 skeud or is there exist a better way of doing in agavi?
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09:31 graste huomenta
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11:23 E_mE_ whats the best method for testing if a date actually exists? for example 2009-02-29, which doesn't exist but strtotime() still returns a value :/
11:23 E_mE_ which then converts back as 2009-03-01
11:23 E_mE_ hmpf
11:24 v-dogg checkdate()
11:24 v-dogg php.net/checkdate
11:24 E_mE_ v-dogg: thank you very much :)
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11:28 E_mE_ outrage! Checkdate() only accepts year upto the 32nd centry... Didnt anybody learn from Y2K? pehh! ;)
11:42 graste how to define, that I want the new "impl" directory structure, when using agavi project wizard=?
11:42 graste can't find the switch :X
12:08 graste hm
12:08 graste changes only in trunk?
12:08 graste or am I blind :x
12:09 graste hmpf
12:09 graste http://trac.agavi.org/ticket/874 :\
12:25 Xylakant graste: only in trunk
12:25 Xylakant and there
12:26 Xylakant 's some sort of problem with the trunk build system atm
12:26 Xylakant I guess I broke some minor stuff lately, so if you find some issues, it would be nice if you could report them to me
12:26 Xylakant I'll have a lot of time at my hand during the next weeks.
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13:04 Rozza Houmenta!
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13:25 E_mE_ ah yo ross :) hows it going?
13:25 E_mE_ Rozza: ^
13:25 Rozza good dude!
13:25 Rozza you? started a new job?
13:25 E_mE_ still Pythoning it up?
13:25 Rozza hell yes
13:26 E_mE_ Well i offically start the new job in January, but im working on some stuff for it at the moment
13:26 E_mE_ my current company let me leave on the 18th
13:26 E_mE_ previous should i say
13:26 E_mE_ hows your caml going? i believe its caml isnt it?
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21:55 hzilla having a strange problem... if handleError is triggered in an action the validation manager should have some error logged? getErrors() reports empty
21:57 v-dogg getErrors might not report minor incidents
21:57 v-dogg just guessing
21:59 hzilla yeh foudn the problem in my valdiation xml. a required or validator failed. i guess thats more reason to put error messages in the xml
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22:02 dan_ Houmenta, guys!
22:02 dan_ I have a form with 3 fields <input type="file" name="images[]" />
22:02 dan_ One of them is required, other 2 are optional.
22:02 dan_ My Q: what validator(s) whould i use for this case an how can i combine them?
22:12 sth_ saf
22:14 dan_ what is saf?
22:20 E_mE Moororeeee snoowww :D
22:25 hzilla dan_: u could try using the isset class validator to set provides="images" and then trigger other depends="images" validators - not sure if it worls for files
22:27 dan_ thank you, hzilla!
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22:32 hzilla your pleasure
23:10 dan_ when i submit form with year-month-day selectors, in ErrorView they are reset to their first values (no attr. selected)
23:10 dan_ I set AgaviDateTimeValidator for them with export to var.
23:10 dan_ How can i fix it?
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23:42 dan_ http://www.agavi.org/ is down?
23:55 hzilla dan_ the agavi site is under maintenance
23:55 dan_ what does it mean?
23:56 hzilla moving server
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01:44 hzilla hey is it poss to set a page title in a slot?
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03:04 MugeSo what's going on the website?
03:08 hzilla server migration
03:08 hzilla David sent an email to the list
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11:57 dan_ how to checkout recent code from repo?
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12:44 Wombert dan_: ?
12:45 dan_ url for repo
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13:13 Wombert dan_: pardon?
13:14 Wombert dan_: you keep saying things in /me mode btw :p
13:14 dan_ didnt know
13:14 dan_ will reconnect
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13:14 Wombert wtf
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13:17 Wombert I still don't understand your question, dan_
13:18 dan_ i mean what is svn co string for agavi project
13:18 Wombert dan_: I think you're pressing enter instead of return (e.g. on the num keypad)
13:18 Wombert on colloquy, that does /me
13:18 Wombert uhm
13:18 Wombert it's in the channel topic? :p
13:18 Wombert #agavi Welcome to Agavi : www.agavi.org : stable: 1.0.1 : testing: 1.0.2 RC3 : maintenance: 0.11.8 : svn: http://svn.agavi.org/ (use branches, not trunk) : have a question? Just ask, and wait patiently, as patience is the key to happiness : got no reply? use the mailing lists! : http://ohloh.net/p/agavi : logs: http://www.agavi.org/irclogs : http://trac.agavi.org/wiki/IRC
13:19 dan_ oh ok, will change to defaults ))
13:19 dan_ is this better? ))
13:19 Wombert dan_: it's in preferences -> behavior
13:19 Wombert I have return for send
13:19 Wombert enter for action
13:20 dan_ will try this combination )
13:21 dan_ i have made route and output for json
13:21 dan_ now i want to use template within executeJson
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13:22 Buurman hi all, i'm trying to reach the website bit it's home is error-ed :S
13:22 dan_ i set decorator to blank master template, but cannot set JsonSuccess.php. How can i do it?
13:27 Wombert yeah Buurman I know
13:27 Wombert will be fixed
13:27 Buurman ok ;)
13:27 Wombert dan_: why do you want to use a template for json?
13:27 Wombert dan_: why not just
13:27 Wombert return json_encode($data);
13:27 Wombert in view::executeJson() ?
13:27 dan_ i need to parse html
13:28 Wombert you could do
13:28 Wombert $this->getLayer('content')->setTemplate('JsonSuccess')
13:28 Wombert but that would be bad
13:28 Wombert you have a different output type for json, right?
13:29 Wombert and it has a layout with... one layer?
13:29 Wombert two layers?
13:29 dan_ one + decorator
13:29 dan_ i do like this
13:29 dan_ $this->setupHtml($rd);
13:29 dan_ $this->getContext()->getLayer('decorator')->setTemplate(AgaviConfig::get('core.t​emplates').'/Blank.php');
13:29 dan_ $this->getLayer('content')->setTemplate('Json');
13:30 Wombert errr
13:30 Wombert wait wait wait
13:30 Wombert why do you call setupHtml() ?
13:30 Wombert errrrr
13:30 Wombert okay
13:30 Wombert please pastebin your output_types.xml
13:30 Wombert http://pastie.org/
13:32 dan_ i call it because without this call $this->getLayer('content') doesnt work
13:32 Wombert [14:30] Wombert: please pastebin your output_types.xml
13:34 dan_ http://pastie.org/755635
13:35 Wombert okay
13:35 Wombert mh
13:35 Wombert your json output type doesn't have any layouts though...
13:36 Wombert this is not in executeJson(), is it?
13:36 Wombert okay
13:36 Wombert so
13:36 Wombert mh
13:37 Wombert explain what exactly you're doing...
13:37 Wombert are you outputting *pure json*
13:37 Wombert or are you outputting some kind of html?
13:37 dan_ json containint html in it
13:37 Wombert ah okay
13:37 Wombert and the html should be produced by a template
13:37 dan_ so, i want to parse template and output its result in json
13:37 Wombert and maybe even slots and stuff?
13:38 Wombert ok
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13:38 dan_ slots… i should think
13:39 dan_ slots are complicated
13:39 dan_ i need fast 'hardcoded' solution
13:39 Wombert hang on
13:39 Wombert I'm working on it
13:40 Wombert this content template
13:40 Wombert is it a regular template?
13:40 Wombert or do you want different templates for this, for example with a different file extension?
13:41 dan_ yes. with php template vars
13:41 Wombert yeah ut
13:41 Wombert do you have a ListSuccess.php that's used for regular HTML
13:41 Wombert and for this json thing you'd like to use... ListSuccess.ajax.php or so?
13:42 dan_ yeah
13:42 Wombert ok
13:42 Wombert so
13:42 dan_ but JsonSuccess.php
13:42 Wombert no, that's a bad choice
13:42 Wombert but bear with me for a moment so I can explain this to you
13:43 Wombert Agavi runs execute<otname> depending on the output type
13:43 Wombert the output type is usually determined by the routing or, in hard cases, a filter or something like that
13:43 Wombert so it'll run executeHtml() under most circumstances (e.g. default ot = html)
13:43 Wombert and then you have a route that looks at an accept: header for applicaiton/json or so
13:43 Wombert and when that's the case
13:43 Wombert it'll switch it to json
13:44 Wombert example: http://trac.agavi.org/browser/tags/1.0.1/samples/app/config/routing.xml#L16
13:44 Wombert many js frameworks like mootools, jquery and so forth will send Accept: application/json in their xmlhttprequests
13:45 Wombert so we're using that there to change the output type; that's the correct way it should be done, leveraging HTTP's content negotiation mechanisms
13:45 Wombert Agavi would now run executeJson() in the view
13:45 Wombert most people just return json_encode($data) there
13:45 Wombert in your case, we also need to run a template
13:45 Wombert so
13:45 Wombert we need to load a layout
13:45 Wombert layouts are defined per output type and then loaded using $this->loadLayout()
13:46 Wombert however, you want to do certain other things, such as setting up default variables for the templates
13:46 Wombert or simply preventing infinite loops
13:46 Wombert so, by convention (!!!!!), we have setup<otname>
13:46 Wombert that should be in base view classes
13:46 Wombert like in the generated base views, or in the sample app
13:46 Wombert http://trac.agavi.org/browser/tags/1.0.1/samples/app/lib/view/AgaviSampleAppBase​View.class.php#L108
13:46 Wombert setupHtml() there
13:46 Wombert it'll just prevent an infinite loop
13:47 Wombert in your case, we need to define a layout for the json output type
13:47 Wombert http://pastie.org/755637
13:47 Wombert there
13:48 Wombert now you should probably add a setupJson() method in your base view
13:48 Wombert that only does $this->loadLayout() or so
13:48 Wombert that'll load a layout
13:48 Wombert the layout that's defined, called "ajax", has two layers
13:48 Wombert one "content" layer with an overridden file extension
13:48 Wombert and a "json" layer with a fixed template path
13:49 Wombert this template (app/templates/JsonEncode.php) should look like this:
13:49 Wombert <?php echo json_encode(array('html' => $inner)); ?>
13:54 Wombert if your view is called "ListSuccessView"
13:54 Wombert it'll then run "ListSuccess.ajax.php" for the content template
13:54 Wombert although exactly this probably won't work
13:55 Wombert because... I suppose you want more than just the html in your output json...
13:55 Wombert so maybe add another layer
13:55 Wombert <layer name="data">
13:55 Wombert <ae:parameter name="extension">.json.php</ae:parameter>
13:55 Wombert </layer>
13:55 dan_ aha… very strong approach
13:55 Wombert it's the way agavi is designed :)
13:55 Wombert no need for hacks
13:56 Wombert actually
13:56 Wombert ponders
13:56 Wombert could you move the html you want to generate to a slot?
13:56 Wombert or is that not practical?
13:56 Wombert because if you could do that
13:56 Wombert then things would be even easier
13:57 Wombert anyway
13:57 Wombert you can now remove the "json" layer I think
13:57 Wombert and only leave the data layer
13:57 Wombert so it looks like this
13:58 Wombert http://pastie.org/pastes/755637
13:58 Wombert then ypou have
13:58 Wombert ListSuccess.php for HTML
13:58 Wombert and for a json request
13:58 Wombert *if you call $this->setupJson()*
13:58 Wombert ListSuccess.ajax.php for the HTML
13:58 Wombert and ListSuccess.json.php with something like this:
13:59 dan_ i dont want to use slots because of action`s functionality
13:59 Wombert <?php echo json_encode(array('foo' => 'bar', 'info' => $t['info'], 'date' => time(), 'html' => $inner); ?>
13:59 Wombert so ListSuccess.json.php basically constructs the json to output
14:02 Wombert by the way, dan_
14:02 Wombert in this case, you can use xincludes to re-use the renderer definition
14:02 Wombert I put them in the sandbox at the top now
14:02 Wombert and include them for html and json output types
14:02 Wombert http://pastie.org/755637
14:03 Wombert err
14:03 Wombert bug
14:03 Wombert fixed: http://pastie.org/pastes/755637
14:04 dan_ Wombert: great work, man! thank you!!!
14:04 Wombert does it work? :)
14:04 dan_ i need some time to rethink about it all )))))
14:05 dan_ i don't know yet
14:05 Wombert I think it still runs executeHtml() in your case
14:05 dan_ i'm newbie ))
14:05 Wombert how do you switch to json in the routing?
14:05 dan_ <route name="json" pattern=".json$" cut="true" stop="false" output_type="json" />
14:05 Wombert ah
14:05 Wombert ok
14:05 Wombert is that necessary though?
14:06 Wombert the Accept header approach *might* be a little cleaner
14:06 Wombert but doesn't matter right now, you can always change it later
14:06 dan_ headers doesnt work
14:08 Wombert your json toolkit probably doesn't send them
14:08 Wombert Mootools does it for Request.JSON() for instance
15:01 horros Hai Wombert
15:01 horros Oh wait, that was an hour ago.
15:13 saracen Wombert: http://www.agavi.org - I did get the email about you upgrading, so ignore me if you already know there's an issue :P
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15:22 Wombert I do, thanks
15:22 Wombert ohai horros
15:23 saracen :)
16:13 Rendez saracen: ping
16:14 hzilla hm is it possible to set a page title from a slot?
16:14 hzilla w
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16:41 saracen Rendez: Hai
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19:21 sth_ saracen: HAI
19:56 Wombert agavi.org back up
19:56 Wombert Merry Christmas, sth_
20:34 saracen sth_: HAI
20:35 saracen Merry Christmas agavi luvras.
20:35 saracen Oh wuts this
20:36 saracen I was hoping during the agavi transfer there would be some chistmas special
20:36 saracen Like some Christmas PHPCaek
20:44 Wombert :<
21:07 sth_ Hey Wombert
21:07 sth_ Hey saracen
21:41 v-dogg merry christmas everyone
21:41 v-dogg hzilla: via request
21:42 v-dogg this->getRequest
21:43 v-dogg and $rq->getAttribute in (master) template
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00:49 dan_ can i in executeHtml() get slot`s result html?
01:22 hzilla easy way to check the html is creating a temporary route to the slot
01:53 dan_ thank you! i found somewhere this solution
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