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08:24 < mach3_domke> integrated 08:26 < v-dogg> no. what kind of search? 08:29 < mach3_domke> Searching in files and Database ... 08:29 < horros> o_O 08:29 < v-dogg> uhm... mmm... what? 08:30 < mach3_domke> Something like EasyComponents -> Search 08:30 < mach3_domke> but from Agavi`? 08:30 < v-dogg> Easy = Ez ? 08:30 < mach3_domke> yes 08:32 < v-dogg> no, agavi doesn't have anything like that because that's not a application frameworks domain. you have several "toolkits" to choose from: ez, zend and so on 08:33 < mach3_domke> can u approve something 08:34 < v-dogg> recommend? 08:34 < mach3_domke> yes 08:34 < v-dogg> no, I haven't used any of them 08:34 < mach3_domke> hmm ok 08:34 < mach3_domke> thx 08:34 < mach3_domke> :) 08:34 -!- minima3 [i=3ed60643@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5b3911f4235a2806] has joined #agavi 08:39 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-74.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 08:52 -!- graste [n=graste@ip-vlan-obckunde-02-217-66-60-14.pixelpark.net] has joined #agavi 09:06 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has joined #agavi 09:31 -!- minima3 [i=3ed60643@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f7a5a3683067701e] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:32 -!- liutis [n=codecop@88-119-253-245.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:33 -!- digitarald [n=digitara@62.43.139.226.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:39 -!- liutis [n=codecop@88-119-253-245.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 10:03 -!- benschi [n=benjamin@f051077221.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #agavi 10:25 < benschi> Huomenta 10:29 -!- digitarald [n=digitara@62.43.139.226.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #agavi 11:25 -!- MikeSeth [n=youdie@62.90.159.110] has joined #agavi 11:28 < MikeSeth> o/ 11:29 -!- Xylakant [n=Xylakant@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 11:30 < horros> Stupid ezPDF 11:30 * horros grumbles 11:32 < Xylakant> huomenta 11:33 < MikeSeth> hay Felix 11:37 -!- Wombert_ [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 11:46 < v-dogg> huomenta *.bitxtender 11:49 -!- sikkle [n=sikkle@MTLXPQAK-1176053010.sdsl.bell.ca] has joined #agavi 11:49 -!- Wombert__ [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-190-079.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 11:59 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-176-036.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:02 -!- graste [n=graste@ip-vlan-obckunde-02-217-66-60-14.pixelpark.net] has quit [] 12:21 -!- E_mE [n=e_me@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has joined #agavi 12:28 -!- sikkle [n=sikkle@MTLXPQAK-1176053010.sdsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:28 -!- sikkle [n=sikkle@MTLXPQAK-1176053010.sdsl.bell.ca] has joined #agavi 12:38 * horros grubmles 12:38 < horros> Stupid TCPDF 12:38 * horros kicks TCPDF in the face 12:39 < MikeSeth> thats why i said fuck it and went with ruby for pdf generation 12:42 -!- Wombert_ is now known as Wombert 12:45 < nfq> hey Wombert 12:45 < horros> MikeSeth: Well, Ruby isn't an option here. 12:45 < Macen> i recently quoted someone for a Web site that had 2 output formats of html and pdf 12:46 < Macen> i hope i costed correctly :/ 12:46 -!- sikkle [n=sikkle@MTLXPQAK-1176053010.sdsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:46 -!- sikkle [n=sikkle@MTLXPQAK-1176053010.sdsl.bell.ca] has joined #agavi 12:47 < Macen> btw, MikeSeth www.panaz.com went live today :o 12:47 -!- krycek__ [n=bclishb@201-14-237-66.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:48 < Macen> i have plans to incorporate agavi for output caching in the ongoing development phases 12:49 < MikeSeth> Macen: quite nice 12:50 < CIA-4> felix * r3330 /branches/felix-testing-implementation/test/tests/unit/config/AgaviConfigCacheTest.php: more testcases for the AgaviConfigCache class 12:50 < Macen> when i took over hosting I took a static copy of their old site and displayed that, the difference was noticeable hence i can say "you know when your site was displaying much faster" 12:50 < Macen> so heh ya 12:50 < Macen> it's a possibility 12:51 < Macen> especially if/how they decide to do the translation 12:51 < Macen> as that will certainly add an overhead that will need to be considered 12:52 < Macen> hoping the flash doesn't become an issue too 12:52 < Macen> will see 12:55 -!- graste [n=graste@ip-vlan-obckunde-02-217-66-60-14.pixelpark.net] has joined #agavi 13:05 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@213.229.146.161] has quit ["... don't let school get in the way of your education."] 13:11 -!- SasanRose [n=SasanRos@91.184.89.223] has quit ["leaving"] 13:30 < CIA-4> felix * r3331 /branches/felix-testing-implementation/test/tests/unit/config/AgaviConfigCacheTest.php: added a testcase for AgaviConfigCache::writeCacheFile() 13:34 -!- Xylakant [n=Xylakant@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:36 < MikeSeth> Seldaek: POKE 13:36 < MikeSeth> let it be heard by all 13:36 < MikeSeth> Mike Seth approves of Dwoo! 13:38 < Seldaek> do you? 13:38 < Seldaek> why's that now? 13:39 < Seldaek> MikeSeth: can you make a scene at some random conference that mentions templates now ?:p 13:41 -!- liutis [n=codecop@88-119-253-245.static.zebra.lt] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:46 < MikeSeth> Seldaek: I'm typically reluctant to use templating engines 13:46 < MikeSeth> Seldaek: but dwoo rids me of certain headaches especially when generating similar reports 13:46 < MikeSeth> i use it in 2 products now 13:46 < Seldaek> good good 13:47 < v-dogg> :) 13:47 < v-dogg> Seldaek: now you must add a "MikSeth a.k.a The Crazy Guy Approved" badge :) 13:48 < Seldaek> oh that would rock 13:48 < Seldaek> with his picture and a thumb up 13:48 < v-dogg> yup 13:49 < CIA-4> felix * r3332 /branches/felix-testing-implementation/test/tests/unit/config/AgaviConfigCacheTest.php: added a test for AgaviConfigCache::isModified() when the cache file does not exist 13:51 < MikeSeth> I should sell white labels 13:52 < MikeSeth> "Generic Measure X approved by The Crazy Guy" 13:54 < v-dogg> foreach-else construct would be a nice addition to php itself 13:56 < MikeSeth> you know what would be nice? 13:56 < MikeSeth> NAMESPACES 13:56 < MikeSeth> heh 13:57 < v-dogg> mmm... yes... :) 13:57 < v-dogg> wtf... http://www.phpforeach.com/ 13:58 < v-dogg> talking about useless sites... 13:59 < Seldaek> hahaha 14:00 < Seldaek> what the fuck seriously 14:00 < Seldaek> I guess there is some advertisement value to be made with such crap 14:01 < CIA-4> felix * r3333 /branches/felix-testing-implementation/test/tests/unit/config/AgaviConfigCacheTest.php: added a testcase for AgaviConfigCache::clear(); 14:03 < CIA-4> felix * r3334 /branches/felix-testing-implementation/test/tests/unit/config/AgaviConfigCacheTest.php: replacing all instances of '/' as a directory separator by the proper constant 14:08 -!- krycek_ [n=bclishb@201-14-237-66.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #agavi 14:16 -!- MrJeep [n=mrjeep@modemcable086.163-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 14:19 -!- luke` 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Just ask, and wait patiently, as patience is the key to happiness :: got no reply? use the mailing lists! :: svn: http://svn.agavi.org/ (use branches/0.11 or branches/1.0, not trunk) :: http://ohloh.net/projects/5907 :: logs at http://agavi.org/irclogs/ :: http://trac.agavi.org/wiki/Huomenta :: http://trac.agavi.org/wiki/Bounties :: donate to freenode: 14:20 -!- Wombert changed the topic of #agavi to: Welcome to Agavi :: www.agavi.org :: bleeding: 1.0.0beta6 :: stable: 0.11.5 :: have a question? Just ask, and wait patiently, as patience is the key to happiness :: got no reply? use the mailing lists! :: svn: http://svn.agavi.org/ (use branches, not trunk) :: http://ohloh.net/projects/5907 :: logs at http://agavi.org/irclogs/ :: http://trac.agavi.org/wiki/Huomenta :: http://trac.agavi.org/wiki/Bounties :: donate to freenode: http://tinyurl.com/6 14:21 < Seldaek> ask ircops to put your topic in the server's MOTD :p 14:22 -!- Wombert changed the topic of #agavi to: Welcome to Agavi :: www.agavi.org :: bleeding: 1.0.0beta6 :: stable: 0.11.5 :: have a question? Just ask, and wait patiently, as patience is the key to happiness :: got no reply? use the mailing lists! :: svn: http://svn.agavi.org/ (use branches, not trunk) :: http://ohloh.net/projects/5907 :: logs at http://agavi.org/irclogs/ :: http://trac.agavi.org/wiki/Huomenta :: http://trac.agavi.org/wiki/Bounties :: donate to freenode: http://bit.ly/10rW9 14:22 < Seldaek> hah 14:25 < v-dogg> Wombert: the topic is getting a tad too long to be useful :) 14:28 < v-dogg> most of the stuff in the topic could go to agavi.org/FAQ or /IRC-rules or something 14:32 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-74.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:36 -!- _cheerios [n=Jack@195.197.209.254] has quit ["boot"] 14:40 -!- _cheerios [n=Jack@195.197.209.254] has joined #agavi 14:40 < digitarald> v-dogg: ++ 14:45 -!- _cher [n=Jack@195.197.209.254] has joined #agavi 14:45 -!- _cheerios [n=Jack@195.197.209.254] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:48 -!- Strzalek_ [n=Strzalek@dmp144.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 14:49 < Strzalek_> huomenta 14:49 < Macen> they could of spell check it 14:49 < Strzalek_> huomenta 14:50 < Strzalek_> test 14:50 -!- Strzalek_ [n=Strzalek@dmp144.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #agavi [] 14:50 -!- Strzalek_ [n=Strzalek@dmp144.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 14:50 -!- Strzalek_ [n=Strzalek@dmp144.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #agavi [] 14:50 -!- Strzalek_ [n=Strzalek@dmp144.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 14:50 < Strzalek_> tests 14:50 < Strzalek_> sorry 14:51 < Macen> huomenta Strzalek_ 14:51 < Strzalek_> Huomenta 14:51 < Macen> you are here :) 14:51 < Macen> or at least i can see you 14:51 < Strzalek_> Is there agavi group on linkedin? 14:52 < Strzalek_> :) 14:52 < Strzalek_> Can I create one? 14:52 < Macen> wtf is linkedin 14:53 < Strzalek_> Macen: linkedin.com 14:53 < Macen> ya it down? 14:53 < Macen> "Sorry, we can't display this page right now." 14:53 < Strzalek_> refresh 14:53 < Macen> ahk 14:53 < Macen> sorry 14:53 < Strzalek_> I'm browsing it acutally 14:56 < Strzalek_> Wombert: can I create agavi group on linkedin or you will do it? 15:01 < Wombert> Strzalek_: I did that months ago 15:01 < Wombert> it did not get accepted 15:01 < Wombert> yet 15:01 < Wombert> still waiting 15:01 < Strzalek_> Naaah :/ 15:01 < Wombert> yes 15:01 < Strzalek_> Versy stupid. There are numbers of "PHP" groups 15:02 < Strzalek_> and they are making problem with agavi group 15:02 < Strzalek_> sux ;/ 15:02 -!- minima3 [i=3ed60643@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-e74c48d4cf831e5a] has joined #agavi 15:02 < MikeSeth> hahahahahah 15:02 < minima3> hey ho .... 15:02 < MikeSeth> I got an email from mysql mailing list 15:03 < MikeSeth> "Embedded databases for ISVs" 15:03 < MikeSeth> Thunderbird: "Thunderbird thinks this message is a scam" 15:03 < MikeSeth> ahahahahah 15:03 < MikeSeth> minima3: hallo 15:03 < v-dogg> trust thunderbird 15:03 < Strzalek_> Wombert: btw, I would like to add you to my network ;) 15:04 < v-dogg> it knows mysql 15:04 < minima3> i'd like to know, how i can enforce, that a textfield is empty after submitting 15:04 < Strzalek_> thunderbird sux ;) mail.app rox 15:04 < MikeSeth> minima3: why? 15:04 < minima3> the captcha-code have to be change 15:04 -!- _cher [n=Jack@195.197.209.254] has quit ["bbl"] 15:05 < MikeSeth> oh you mean make the FPF *not* refill the textfield? 15:05 < minima3> yes ... exatly 15:06 < minima3> exactly 15:07 < v-dogg> $this->context->getRequest()->setAttribute('populate', false, 'org.agavi.filter.FormPopulationFilter'); 15:07 < Wombert> no 15:07 < Wombert> $rq->setAttribute('skip', $ph, 'org.agavi.filter.FormPopulationFilter'); 15:07 < v-dogg> woooooot 15:07 < Wombert> $ph = new AgaviParameterHolder(); 15:07 < Wombert> $ph->setParameters(array('captcha')); 15:07 < Wombert> I *think* 15:07 < Wombert> it is a bit wonky, this "skip" thing 15:08 < Wombert> actually, you can set an array 15:09 < Wombert> $rq->setAttribute('skip', array('captcha'), 'org.agavi.filter.FormPopulationFilter'); 15:09 < minima3> ok, slowly please ... 15:09 < v-dogg> aahh, he wanted just one field to be skipped :) 15:09 < Wombert> but the problem with that is that there won't be an error message then 15:09 < minima3> the textfield has the name captcha_id 15:09 < Wombert> I think 15:09 < Wombert> well then make it captcha_id... 15:10 < minima3> where? in the last line? ($ph->setParameter(array('captcha_id'))) 15:10 < Wombert> [16:08] Wombert: actually, you can set an array 15:10 < Wombert> [16:09] Wombert: $rq->setAttribute('skip', array('captcha'), 'org.agavi.filter.FormPopulationFilter'); 15:10 < Wombert> mmmmh that stuff needs a rewrite 15:11 < minima3> there i have to fill in "captcha_id" and then it will work? 15:12 -!- Xylakant [n=Xylakant@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 15:13 < Wombert> no 15:14 < Wombert> the feature only works if you use exactly "captcha", sorry 15:14 < Wombert> ... 15:14 * Wombert shakes head 15:14 < Wombert> try it, it's not like earth will explode if you get it wrong or so :) 15:15 < minima3> :/ ok ... sorry ... 15:15 < minima3> :) 15:17 < v-dogg> umm.. not sure about that... be careful 15:18 < minima3> ok, it works ... 15:18 < minima3> thanks 15:18 < ttj> Nah, don't worry about it. 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(i dont use it) but if their is someone who works with doctrine maybe or something else and he saves the database models (e.g) into the modules/libs and load it with the autoloads, another module has no access to this libaries.. 19:38 < crazyhead> and i know what you will say now.. 19:39 < crazyhead> : no cross libary access for modules.. but for someone who build an application an will distribute modules and some module will use a feature from an other module.. 19:39 < Wombert> that is wrong 19:40 < Wombert> autoloads do work across modules 19:40 < crazyhead> aaah ok :) 19:40 < Wombert> if you access a model from another module 19:40 < crazyhead> ahh cool. 19:41 < crazyhead> ok. 19:41 < Wombert> at least 1.0 does that; it works in 0.11, but not under all circumstances 19:42 < crazyhead> i use beta 5 at the moment for my application (and yes i know its beta.) 19:42 < Wombert> then it should work 19:43 < crazyhead> is their a function like moduleExists() on the context? 19:44 < CIA-4> david * r3344 /branches/1.0/CHANGELOG: reverting [3343] as [3340] was wrong in another way, too, refs #932 19:45 < CIA-4> david * r3345 /branches/1.0/CHANGELOG: revert broken changelog entry from [3340], refs #932 19:46 -!- benschi [n=benjamin@f051077221.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 19:47 < CIA-4> david * r3346 /branches/1.0/CHANGELOG: CHANGELOG for #932, refs #932, see [3340], [3343], [3344], [3345] 19:47 < crazyhead> and another question, what you think about a caching manager who you can registered more then one cache, maybe, filesystem, memcache, apc - whatever and the cachemanager will write the datas intelligent to the right cache ? 19:48 < Wombert> I prototyped that already 19:48 < Wombert> it's going to be in 1.1 19:48 < crazyhead> NICE :D 19:48 < Wombert> http://trac.agavi.org/wiki/Cleanup/Storage 19:48 < Wombert> includes chaining 19:48 < Wombert> but it needs more cleanup that just that 19:49 < Wombert> in any case, it's taken care of 19:49 < Wombert> patience :) 19:50 < crazyhead> können wir kurz deutsch reden? ;P 19:50 < Wombert> no 19:50 < crazyhead> -_- 19:51 < Wombert> english is the language around here, sorry 19:52 < v-dogg> with a Finnish twist 19:52 < crazyhead> kk ;) i know everything is strict ;P strict output, strict input haha 19:54 < crazyhead> back to the cache, you will write into 2 levels right know.. (what i read) how do you select when it comes into the database or to the memcache? and why you will everytime call the memcache first 19:57 < Wombert> that's just an example for chaining storages 19:58 < Wombert> like... for distributed sessions 19:58 < Wombert> you read from memcache first, because it's faster... 19:58 < Wombert> and fall back to the database in worst case 19:58 < Wombert> but writes go to both (as that happens on script shutdown, when the page output has already been sent) 20:00 < crazyhead> hmm.. yes, but i think that it handle the storage intelligent, like.. datas who will read x times per minute -> memcache, datas who will read just one time a day -> filesystem 20:01 < crazyhead> if you have large things to cache it could make sense ;) 20:01 < Wombert> yes 20:01 < Wombert> that would be additional meta storages 20:01 < Wombert> implementing that into a manager itself would be nonsense 20:02 < crazyhead> hmm 20:02 < Wombert> and yes, there is AgaviController::moduleExists() 20:03 -!- krycek__ [n=bclishb@201-14-237-66.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #agavi 20:03 < crazyhead> *notized* 20:04 < crazyhead> hmm.. and relations from doctrine..hmm... 20:04 < crazyhead> (autoload.. = 20:04 < crazyhead> ) 20:04 < crazyhead> ah.. it is stupid to have a relation to an module whats maybe not exists 20:05 < CIA-4> david * r3347 /branches/1.0/ (21 files in 2 dirs): adding configuration file path to header comments in compiled files if possible, closes #938 and refs #932 20:10 < crazyhead> ok.. i think now i know something to make my applcation a little bit cooler :P 20:11 < _cheerios> this shit is bananas! 20:12 -!- benschi [n=benjamin@f051077221.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #agavi 20:13 < CIA-4> david * r3348 /branches/0.11/ (CHANGELOG src/database/AgaviPropelDatabase.class.php): Fixed #937: AgaviPropelDatabase::connect() doesn't honor datasource parameter 20:15 -!- trophaeum [n=trophaeu@leanne.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #agavi 20:17 < CIA-4> david * r3349 /branches/1.0/ (CHANGELOG src/database/AgaviPropelDatabase.class.php): merge [3342:3348/branches/0.11] 20:17 < crazyhead> ok, another question, i have an CMS system who has stored an menu into the database, 2 problems: how i write the routes for agavi to the database ? (at the moment i create an array with params and the name and serialize it, if the menue is generating it will unserilize the route and generate it) 20:18 < crazyhead> the second question: how i test if an specially route is matched? 20:19 < Wombert> alrighty 20:19 < Wombert> home time 20:19 * Wombert stabs office 20:20 -!- krycek_ [n=bclishb@201-14-237-66.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:20 < crazyhead> hehe ;) i understand - but iam in the office right now ^^ and now i have a question flow :D .. 20:21 < Wombert> well, that is unfortunate 20:22 < crazyhead> yes but you also know it from sevenload ;P sometimes it is hard 20:23 < Wombert> it's just a matter of being organized 20:23 < Wombert> <: 20:23 < Wombert> says the man who's still at work at half past nine 20:23 < Wombert> now, really 20:23 * Wombert & 20:23 < crazyhead> you cannot organize customers 20:23 < Wombert> not true 20:23 < Wombert> all you need is a hammer 20:24 < crazyhead> hehe yes.. but something the customer comes just some days before he need it und will crying arround :) 20:25 < Wombert> then you need something called "project management" 20:25 < Wombert> gotta run 20:25 < Wombert> bai 20:25 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@pdpc/supporter/professional/wombert] has quit ["bai"] 20:25 -!- krycek__ [n=bclishb@201-14-237-66.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:26 < crazyhead> -_- sometimes you cannot handle it with ANY management ! 20:30 -!- SasanRose [n=SasanRos@92.50.11.30] has quit ["leaving"] 20:39 -!- csc_ [n=tc77@static-87-79-66-254.netcologne.de] has joined #agavi 20:39 -!- csc_ [n=tc77@static-87-79-66-254.netcologne.de] has left #agavi [] 20:40 -!- tc77 [n=tc77@static-87-79-66-254.netcologne.de] has joined #agavi 20:49 -!- jwage_ [n=jwage@corp.centresource.com] has joined #agavi 20:53 -!- graste1 [n=graste@f053007222.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #agavi 21:05 -!- jwage [n=jwage@corp.centresource.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:09 -!- graste [n=graste@f053008234.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 21:24 < _cheerios> fuck i feel alive today. thrills like riding a rollercoaster. 21:24 < _cheerios> (that goes off-track) 21:29 -!- benschi [n=benjamin@f051077221.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #agavi [] 21:30 -!- matbtt [n=matbtt@BAH46cf.bah.pppool.de] has joined #agavi 21:37 -!- matbtt [n=matbtt@BAH46cf.bah.pppool.de] has left #agavi [] 22:18 -!- trophaeum [n=trophaeu@leanne.lnk.telstra.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:21 -!- Zeelot3k [n=zeelot@c-71-196-55-253.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:23 < crazyhead> O_o 22:32 -!- _cheerios [n=Jack@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit ["fgnn"] 22:42 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-74.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 23:37 -!- trophaeum [n=trophaeu@leanne.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #agavi 23:40 -!- graste1 [n=graste@f053007222.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["Leaving."] 23:55 -!- jwage_ [n=jwage@corp.centresource.com] has quit [] --- Day changed Tue Dec 02 2008 00:16 -!- icyt is now known as IcyT 01:21 -!- jwage [n=jwage@c-98-193-185-25.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #agavi 02:05 -!- Zimm [n=asd@e177251086.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["Fatal Error: Unknown command "exit"! 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Slightly wrong channel. 08:41 < horros> *blush* 08:41 < horros> -> 08:42 -!- benschi [n=benjamin@f051077221.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 08:42 < v-dogg> muahahaaa 08:43 < v-dogg> 715517 :p 08:43 < horros> :D 08:43 -!- tc77 [n=tc77@static-87-79-66-254.netcologne.de] has quit [] 08:46 < horros> Damnit, do I have to write my own plugin for NetBeans! 08:49 -!- graste [n=graste@ip-vlan-obckunde-02-217-66-60-14.pixelpark.net] has joined #agavi 08:51 * horros installs the plugin development tools 08:54 -!- krycek_ [n=bclishb@201-14-237-66.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:59 -!- SasanRose [n=SasanRos@91.184.89.223] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 09:02 < _cheerios> what's the graphical ssh client of choice on mac? 09:04 < horros> Hmm 09:04 * horros ponders 09:04 -!- krycek_ [n=bclishb@201-14-237-66.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #agavi 09:04 < horros> now that I have the ant plugin installed, it (surprisingly enough) steals the build.xml -files 09:04 -!- krycek__ [n=bclishb@201-14-237-66.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:04 < horros> I wonder if I can override that. 09:06 -!- jwage [n=jwage@c-98-193-185-25.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [] 09:12 < marklar|omni> hai guise 09:12 < marklar|omni> _cheerios: debian forevear 09:12 < marklar|omni> centos must die :D 09:13 < _cheerios> im all debian. a mate was asking which way to go. 09:14 < _cheerios> i told him centos might be easier, if you don't want to fiddle with linux much, more .rpm's around -- not sure how correct that is :) 09:22 -!- Wombert__ [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-190-079.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["bai"] 09:26 < hashZILLA> fedora? 09:32 < horros> Hmm, I wonder how I'd go about registering the file type only for PHP projects :| 09:33 < horros> This is rather annoying. phing's build.xml looks EXACTLY like ant's build.xml 09:33 < horros> which makes it a tad difficult to guess which type it is :( 09:34 < _cheerios> marklar|omni, he chose debian in the end. 09:42 -!- liutis [n=codecop@88-119-253-245.static.zebra.lt] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:48 < E_mE> huomenta 09:53 -!- krycek_ [n=bclishb@201-14-237-66.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:01 -!- Zimm [n=asd@f054011140.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #agavi 10:06 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-74.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 10:08 -!- Macen [n=leopard@78-105-114-66.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #agavi 10:09 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 10:12 -!- jwage [n=jwage@c-98-193-185-25.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #agavi 10:15 < marklar|omni> good 10:15 < marklar|omni> centos = fale 10:15 < marklar|omni> it's basically redhat built from srpms + shitty borked apt-get 10:15 < MikeSeth> you tell me about it 10:15 < MikeSeth> huomenta 10:15 < marklar|omni> hehe 10:15 < marklar|omni> authconfig is nice to give to french people though 10:16 < marklar|omni> I can't think of actually letting them touch /etc/pam.d/* 10:16 < marklar|omni> "here, this is the kdc and ldap address, go put that in 20 boxes' authconfig kthxbai" 10:16 < MikeSeth> recompile with another location default and leave the fake one around? :> 10:16 < marklar|omni> nah I got powerbroker monitoring their moves 10:16 < marklar|omni> nobody touches anything 10:16 < marklar|omni> and if they do, I get osiris mails 10:16 < marklar|omni> and then brrrrn 10:17 < marklar|omni> http://www.symark.com/products/pboverview.html 10:17 < marklar|omni> ^ ftw 10:19 < marklar|omni> hehe, freebsd disc with "suse enterprise 10 sp2" written on it -> epic 10:19 < marklar|omni> bbiab, nomnom 10:22 < horros> Close, but yet so far. 10:22 < horros> I overwrote ant's context menu now :( 10:23 -!- graste [n=graste@ip-vlan-obckunde-02-217-66-60-14.pixelpark.net] has left #agavi [] 10:23 < horros> and managed to register my plugin for every single XML file it finds :( 10:26 -!- jwage [n=jwage@c-98-193-185-25.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [] 10:31 -!- benschi [n=benjamin@s0900.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #agavi 10:32 < MikeSeth> ant has context menu? O_O 10:33 -!- krycek_ [n=bclishb@201-14-237-66.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #agavi 10:33 -!- benschi [n=benjamin@s0900.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de] has quit [Client Quit] 10:44 -!- graste [n=graste@ip-vlan-obckunde-02-217-66-60-14.pixelpark.net] has joined #agavi 10:46 < MikeSeth> okay that's original 10:46 < MikeSeth> someone chose "2g1c" as their affiliate code 10:48 < CIA-4> felix * r3350 /branches/1.0/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 10:48 < CIA-4> - fixes off-by-one error in AgaviToolkit::stringBase() 10:48 < CIA-4> - fixes #936 10:49 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-74.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 10:53 < CIA-4> felix * r3351 /branches/1.0/CHANGELOG: 10:53 < CIA-4> fixes changelog for #936 10:53 < CIA-4> - ref #936 10:57 < CIA-4> david * r3352 /branches/1.0/CHANGELOG: CHANGELOG entry for the path escaping problems in AgaviConfigCache::getCacheName() fixed along the way in [3338], closes #931 and refs #932 11:00 < CIA-4> david * r3353 /branches/1.0/RELEASE_NOTES: RELEASE_NOTES for new config cache filenames, refs #931, #932, #938 11:06 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-74.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 11:10 < horros> grumble 11:13 < CIA-4> felix * r3354 /branches/1.0/ (CHANGELOG src/util/AgaviToolkit.class.php): 11:13 < CIA-4> - refactor AgaviToolkit::stringBase() (#935) 11:13 < CIA-4> - fixes #935 11:18 -!- SasanRose [n=SasanRos@91.184.88.199] has joined #agavi 11:25 < hashZILLA> did you guys get that bounty fixed? 11:26 < marklar|omni> RUSSIA HAS DEFEAT NAZI ALONE, WITH ONE HAND TIED BEHIND BACK, DRUNK, WITH THREE KNIVES RAMMED IN BACK AND STUCK CAPS LOCK 11:30 < CIA-4> felix * r3355 /branches/felix-config-cache-refactoring/ (41 files in 12 dirs): (log message trimmed) 11:30 < CIA-4> Merged revisions 3336,3338-3340,3342-3347,3349-3354 via svnmerge from 11:30 < CIA-4> https://svn.agavi.org/branches/1.0 11:30 < CIA-4> ........ 11:30 < CIA-4> r3336 | felix | 2008-12-01 18:42:21 +0100 (Mon, 01 Dec 2008) | 3 lines 11:30 < CIA-4> Merge from [3204-3216:branches/felix-testing-implementation/] 11:30 < CIA-4> ........ 11:49 -!- sikkle [n=sikkle@MTLXPQAK-1176053010.sdsl.bell.ca] has joined #agavi 12:06 -!- graste [n=graste@ip-vlan-obckunde-02-217-66-60-14.pixelpark.net] has quit [] 12:13 < CIA-4> felix * r3356 /branches/felix-config-cache-refactoring/src/config/AgaviConfigCache.class.php: 12:13 < CIA-4> - made AgaviConfigCache non-final 12:13 < CIA-4> - made the private methods protected 12:13 < CIA-4> - refs #929 12:14 -!- luke`_ [n=luke`@122.166.1.164] has joined #agavi 12:14 -!- luke` [n=luke`@122.166.1.164] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:16 -!- luke`_ [n=luke`@122.166.1.164] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:16 -!- luke` [n=luke`@122.166.1.164] has joined #agavi 12:19 -!- luke` [n=luke`@122.166.1.164] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:19 < CIA-4> felix * r3357 /branches/felix-config-cache-refactoring/src/config/AgaviConfigCache.class.php: removed AgaviConfigCache::clearCache() it used to be private, is not called anywhere and redundant anyways. Go, dead code, begone! 12:19 -!- luke` [n=luke`@122.166.1.164] has joined #agavi 12:41 -!- graste [n=graste@ip-vlan-obckunde-02-217-66-60-14.pixelpark.net] has joined #agavi 12:46 < CIA-4> felix * r3358 /branches/felix-config-cache-refactoring/test/tests/unit/config/AgaviConfigCacheTest.php: added a testcase for adding an unreadable config handlers file 12:56 -!- ttj [n=tjorri@kosh.hut.fi] has joined #agavi 12:57 < CIA-4> felix * r3359 /branches/felix-config-cache-refactoring/test/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 12:57 < CIA-4> - added an AgaviTestingConfigCache to allow access to some internal properties 12:57 < CIA-4> - added a TestCase for adding an existant config handlers file 13:01 < CIA-4> felix * r3360 /branches/felix-config-cache-refactoring/test/ (2 files in 2 dirs): added another assertion to testAddConfigHandlersFile() 13:01 < marklar|omni> hai 13:01 < CIA-4> felix * r3361 /branches/felix-config-cache-refactoring/test/tests/unit/config/AgaviConfigCacheTest.php: removed typo... 13:08 -!- Rendez_ [n=Rendez@213.229.146.161] has joined #agavi 13:12 -!- MikeSeth [n=youdie@unaffiliated/mikeseth] has quit ["fale"] 13:13 -!- Rendez_ [n=Rendez@213.229.146.161] has quit [Client Quit] 13:14 < liutis> can i use in validators xml files php 5.2.0 + required ? 14:28 < MrJeep> for agavi 14:29 < marklar|omni> why, are you installing on rhel4 or somethng 14:29 < marklar|omni> hehe 14:32 < MrJeep> no 14:32 < MrJeep> I need to make a spec sheet for a customer 14:33 < MrJeep> what's required for everything so we can find a more suitable hosting company 14:33 < marklar|omni> whatever currently ships with debian unstable ist gut 14:34 < marklar|omni> sec 14:34 < marklar|omni> ah, vendor patches 14:34 < marklar|omni> hm 14:40 < v-dogg> MrJeep: choose a hosting company that has PHP up-to-date. if they haven't updated since 5.1 I would not even consider 14:41 < MrJeep> yeah I ask for php 5.2.x 14:41 < MrJeep> if they don't provide it the y can rott in hell 14:41 < MrJeep> or some sort of hot place with awefull things 14:42 < marklar|omni> um 14:42 < marklar|omni> why do you have to "ask" them 14:42 < marklar|omni> is it... MANAGED HOSTING? 14:42 < marklar|omni> if so - fail 14:42 < marklar|omni> get your own boxes :< 14:43 < v-dogg> nah, managed hosting is better for small projects 14:43 < marklar|omni> uh-huh 14:43 < marklar|omni> rite 14:43 < v-dogg> one less thing to worry about (unless your hosting company is crap :) 14:43 < MrJeep> some of our clients don't want to pay for a dedicated server 14:43 < MrJeep> and some are hosting the site privately 14:43 < marklar|omni> you can get an excellent vps for like $10 14:43 < v-dogg> marklar|omni: and who's going to maintain them? 14:43 < marklar|omni> but hey, you wanna suffer, go ahead 14:43 < MrJeep> and almost all of them wants a hosting company physically close 14:44 < marklar|omni> v-dogg: you call running apt-get once a week maintenance? 14:44 < v-dogg> yes 14:44 < marklar|omni> mk 14:44 < v-dogg> what do you call it? a nice way to spend your free time? 14:45 < marklar|omni> I call it sshkeys + cronjob = reading upgraded machine reports during morning coffee 14:45 < marklar|omni> kthx 14:45 < marklar|omni> also I call it secure boxes without phpmyadmin (5 releases behind) hanging out the side 14:45 < v-dogg> like I said, you need a hosting company what isn't total crap :) 14:46 < marklar|omni> and they charge too much for simple shit 14:46 < marklar|omni> just get a cheap euro vps at a normal datacenter and manage it yourself 14:46 < marklar|omni> 10 min/week per vps 14:46 < marklar|omni> tops 14:46 < marklar|omni> it ain't that hard 14:47 < v-dogg> but it's still one more thing to worry about. no thanks. (again: for small simple projects) 15:04 < Macen> hmm 15:04 < Macen> interesting conversation 15:06 < Macen> i wish i could pass over some customers to a 3rd party and not have to answer their questions 15:07 < Macen> i've automated most of the update processes where possible and run LTS software only, so updates are few and far between 15:11 < Macen> i think what v-dogg means is that there is a responsibility involved in maintaining ongoing accounts and web services 15:12 < Macen> if you charge a managed hosting fee yourself then it becomes worth the hassle 15:12 < Macen> selling 3rd party products at 3rd party prices leaves you with a headache each time you have to do something heh 15:16 < marklar|omni> heh 15:16 < marklar|omni> I can offer you agavi-friendly managed hosting 15:16 < marklar|omni> for cheap 15:17 < marklar|omni> if you want a 3rd party :P 15:17 < Macen> haha 15:17 < Macen> i'm fine being the 3rd party thanks 15:17 < Macen> ;) 15:17 < marklar|omni> nah I was talking to v-dogg ;d 15:17 < Macen> pst 15:19 < v-dogg> marklar|omni: I might just take up on that one day :) 15:20 < marklar|omni> sure np 15:20 < marklar|omni> UK, tehlunix + lighttpd + mysql 15:50 -!- mach3_domke [i=3ed60643@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-61a36e24a2ea5da8] has joined #agavi 15:51 < mach3_domke> hallo i have a problem/error 15:51 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 15:51 < mach3_domke> Using domain "layout" which has no path specified 15:52 < mach3_domke> i get this error on random times 15:52 < mach3_domke> if i press F5 the page Continue to the right page 15:52 < mach3_domke> or shows the right page 15:53 < mach3_domke> some ideas? 16:00 < v-dogg> do you use translation? 16:00 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-74.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 16:00 < v-dogg> sounds like a missing translation domain 16:01 < v-dogg> $tm->_('My String', 'layout'); or something 16:02 -!- _cheerios [n=Jack@195.197.209.254] has quit ["bbl"] 16:06 < mach3_domke> hmm 16:07 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exploit 18:08 -!- Fastly_ [n=alex@c-76-108-41-3.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #agavi 18:08 < v-dogg> WTF! the new Nokia N97 is going to cost 990 euros here in Finland 18:08 < trophaeum> * Andreas Solberg reported that libxml2 does not properly detect 18:08 < trophaeum> recursion during entity expansion in an attribute value 18:08 < trophaeum> (CVE-2008-3281). 18:08 < trophaeum> * A heap-based buffer overflow has been reported in the 18:08 < trophaeum> xmlParseAttValueComplex() function in parser.c (CVE-2008-3529). 18:08 < trophaeum> * Christian Weiske reported that predefined entity definitions in 18:08 < trophaeum> entities are not properly handled (CVE-2008-4409). 18:08 < trophaeum> * Drew Yao of Apple Product Security reported an integer overflow in 18:08 < trophaeum> the xmlBufferResize() function that can lead to an infinite loop 18:08 < trophaeum> (CVE-2008-4225). 18:08 < trophaeum> * Drew Yao of Apple Product Security reported an integer overflow in 18:08 < trophaeum> the xmlSAX2Characters() function leading to a memory corruption 18:08 < trophaeum> (CVE-2008-4226). 18:08 < trophaeum> for those that care 18:16 < CIA-4> david * r3371 /branches/1.0/ (9 files in 3 dirs): ported sample and code template compile/filters/translation configs, forgotten in [3308], refs #519 18:19 < impl> v-dogg: That looks sexy 18:21 < v-dogg> it sure does 18:21 < v-dogg> but 990 uuros 18:22 < v-dogg> e90 communicator was cheaper when it come to market 18:22 < impl> I wonder what it'll sell for in the States 18:22 < impl> if at all 18:23 < v-dogg> of course they want to skim the cream first but still 990! 18:23 * v-dogg is shocked 18:23 < v-dogg> :) 18:24 < v-dogg> I'm shocked because I'm cheap and don't want to pay that much :p 18:24 < v-dogg> but I still want one 18:25 < impl> lawl :P 18:25 < impl> I want one partly so I can shove it in Wombert's Apple-<3'ing face :D 18:26 < v-dogg> yeah. and when you put it that way 990 doesn't feel to bad anymore ;) 18:26 < v-dogg> but now, 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I sure as hell haven't 08:24 < v-dogg> must be some php notice 08:26 < digitarald> var_dump uses it for example 08:26 < horros> #
Agavi
08:26 < horros> # 
string '4075da2d05c77ae9d50e5534b11b5f4d' (length=32)
08:26 < horros> #
08:26 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 08:26 < horros> That's what validator.w3.org says at least. 08:26 < horros> Hmmh. 08:26 < horros> I need to reboot. 08:26 < horros> bbiab. 08:27 -!- moritz [n=moritz@84-74-65-47.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 08:27 -!- moritz [n=moritz@84-74-65-47.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 08:33 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@213.229.146.161] has joined #agavi 08:35 < v-dogg> 
 what's that?
08:35 < v-dogg> does x-debug have its own var_dump implementation or somehting?
08:35 < horros> Ah, yes.
08:35 < horros> I just noticed that.
08:36 < horros> And yeah, it does, it overloads var_dump.
08:36 < horros> So my mistake :)
08:36 < E_mE> aint that for styling the var_dump on the screen v-dogg
08:36 < E_mE> ?
08:36 < E_mE> or for extension usage
08:36 < v-dogg> it is, but the normal var_dump doesn't do that
08:37 < v-dogg> but I'm going to replace var_dump's with something better any way
08:37 < v-dogg> var_dump is not viable solution
08:37 < mach3_domke> Look at Zend::Debug->dump()
08:38 < E_mE> ja, if i use var_dump it automatically knowns
08:38 < v-dogg> knows what?
08:38 < E_mE> xdebug sense it an automatcally styles the output
08:39 < v-dogg> which might or might not be a good idea
08:39 < E_mE> well, i believe you can disable it via php.ini ... 
08:39 < E_mE> you change lots of settings :)
08:40 < E_mE> if you phpinfo() and look under the xdebug section you can see them all
08:40 < horros> I'll try to get a hold of Derick.
08:41 < horros> He's probably somewhere halfway around the planet though :(
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08:42 < mach3_domke> i want to  create a route for my AjaxRequest...
08:43 < horros> Hmmh.
08:43 < horros> I'll just disable xdebug's var_dump overloading for now.
08:44 < mach3_domke> and i add to my output_type.xml the following code
08:44 < mach3_domke> application/json; charset=UTF-8
08:44 < mach3_domke> than i created a new Module Ajax
08:45 < mach3_domke> and my AddToCartSuccsessView http://pastebin.ca/1274748+
08:45 < mach3_domke> http://pastebin.ca/1274748
08:46 < mach3_domke> but i dont know if it is correct
08:46 < mach3_domke> and i have no idea how to write the route for the AddToCartAction...
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08:49 < horros> There we go.
08:49 < horros> Works fine now with var_dump overloading disabled
08:50 < Wombert> mach3_domke: why a separate action?
08:50 < Wombert> or even a separate module?
08:51 < Wombert> think of "add to cart" as a link
08:51 < Wombert> it can be called
08:51 < Wombert> through the browser, and then the operation happens
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08:51 < Wombert> if the user has javascript enabled, you catch the onclick event, return false to prevent the default operation, and send the request via ajax
08:51 < Wombert> to the same url
08:51 < Wombert> with the same data
08:51 < Wombert> that's how ajax is supposed to work, not through separate code
08:52 < Wombert> so all you need is a route that sets the output type to ajax when the request is made through XMLHTTPRequest
08:53 < Wombert> 
08:53 < Wombert> or, if your js toolkit doesn't send that route
08:53 < Wombert> -route +header
08:53 < Wombert> 
08:53 < Wombert> most set that
08:54 < mach3_domke> wo bu ming bi
08:54 < mach3_domke> i will try
08:55 < Wombert> do, or do not
08:55 < Wombert> there is no try
08:55 < Wombert> <:
08:55 < mach3_domke> i do
08:55 < Wombert> 
08:55 < mach3_domke> and try if i do it right
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08:59 < mach3_domke> i dont understand it
08:59 < mach3_domke> i do new Request({method: 'post', url: 'TO WITCH ROUTE??'});
09:00 < mach3_domke> in the Json Route there is no action?!
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09:09 < Wombert> yes
09:09 < Wombert> it is non-stopping
09:09 < Wombert> it continues matching
09:09 < Wombert> you need to put it at the beginning of your routing.xml
09:10 < Wombert> you simply submit to the same, normal route
09:10 < Wombert> that the add to cart action already has
09:10 < Wombert> like /cart/add/(id:\d+) or whatever
09:10 < Wombert> and then the normal action is called and executed, but the output type will be "json"
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09:21 < v-dogg> Wombert: you wanted to re-do phpdocumentator once, didn't you? I take it you never did it?-)
09:22 < Wombert> rrright
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09:23 < mach3_domke> ok i understand :)
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09:26 < Wombert> cool mach3_domke 
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09:34 < mach3_domke> ok works
09:34 < E_mE> when using: $this->context->getRequest()->setAttribute(  'populate',   new AgaviParameterHolder(array($array_name => $form_data) ), 'org.agavi.filter.FormPopulationFilter' );  should FPF push data into the form on both READ and WRITE requests?
09:35 < mach3_domke> but i get in the response the whole HTML code
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09:49 < Wombert> mach3_domke: show your global_filters.xml
09:49 < Wombert> E_mE: yeah it would but what is $array_name => $form_data ?
09:49 < Wombert> E_mE: that's the reason why you should have separate input and error views ;)
09:49 < E_mE> well ive got a function called setForm() in my parent view class which i can define that
09:50 < E_mE> i do have seprate input and error views ;)
09:50 < mach3_domke> http://pastebin.ca/1274780
09:50 < E_mE> ill pastie wombert and you can see what i mean
09:51 < mach3_domke> http://pastebin.ca/1274781
09:51 < E_mE> http://pastie.org/private/y5if1c165umd1zxsksvyhq
09:51 < mach3_domke> the last one is my Action and My View+
09:53 < E_mE> Wombert: im injecting data into my form, its not for error data. ive got billing then moves to delivery view, and want to populate my delivery automatically with the billing ;)
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09:54 < E_mE> it appears that my fpf aint even being called
09:54 < E_mE> morning nfq
09:55 < nfq> morning E_mE 
09:55 < E_mE> ive got a commit for the duplication bug at lunch break :)
09:55 < E_mE> duplication folders that is :)
09:59 < E_mE> hmpf! my FPF is not being executed :(
09:59 < Wombert> mach3_domke: nonono
09:59 < Wombert> you don't understand
09:59 < Wombert> the action (controller) does not bother with such things as output types
09:59 < Wombert> you have executeRead() there, executeWrite(), etc
10:00 < Wombert> *how* those are called (normal web form, xmlhttprequest, soap, ...) does not matter
10:00 < mach3_domke> i do
10:00 < Wombert> the code stays the same
10:12 < Wombert> mach3_domke: consider a web form
10:13 < Wombert> or a soap request
10:13 < Wombert> or an ajax request
10:13 < Wombert> they all do the same thing - call the addToCart action
10:13 < Wombert> so there is no difference between those
10:14 < Wombert> only the view handles the output type
10:14 < mach3_domke> ok so in my Action ther is now only executeRead..
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10:14 < mach3_domke> in my View executeJson
10:14 < Wombert> no, executeWrite() if your xmlhttprequest submits as post...
10:16 < mach3_domke> ok now i have executeWrite
10:17 < mach3_domke> in my action and executeJson in the View ?! thats right?
10:17 < mach3_domke> this is my Respons http://pastebin.ca/1274792 
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10:21 < v-dogg> mach3_domke: change your exception template to %core.agavi_dir%/exception/templates/plaintext.php in settings.xml
10:21 < v-dogg> it's easier to read
10:22 < v-dogg> then re-paste the exception, please
10:26 < mach3_domke> it works now
10:28 < mach3_domke> my co-worker minima3 said: Hopfully we got nerds in Argavi in the Next Years to help other stupid guys like us now :)
10:28 < E_mE> mmm ive got valid XHTML and pushing data to the FPF under a POST and still getting no data in my form :(
10:32 < E_mE> does having the parameter field_error_messages cause any problems?
10:33 < E_mE> can anyone help ?
10:44 < Wombert> no
10:44 < Wombert> I'm sure
10:44 < Wombert> [10:49] Wombert: E_mE: yeah it would but what is $array_name => $form_data ?
10:44 < Wombert> is the problem
10:44 < Wombert> what is that?
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10:48 < nfq> Wombert: yo
10:49 < Wombert> 2tics
10:49 < nfq> k
10:54 < CIA-4> felix * r3378 /branches/felix-config-cache-refactoring/ (30 files in 17 dirs): (log message trimmed)
10:54 < CIA-4> Merged revisions 3363-3364,3366,3368-3369,3371-3373,3376-3377 via svnmerge from
10:54 < CIA-4> https://svn.agavi.org/branches/1.0
10:54 < CIA-4> ........
10:54 < CIA-4> r3363 | david | 2008-12-02 18:15:55 +0100 (Tue, 02 Dec 2008) | 1 line
10:54 < CIA-4> Allow optional marshalling of document/literal wrapped request and response elements, closes #940
10:54 < CIA-4> ........
10:58 < E_mE> Wombert: http://pastie.org/private/uzegtcgpsqdxrk8tkvlfg
10:59 < E_mE> is it not allowed Wombert to use variables in placement of the array fields there?
11:03 < Wombert> oh it is umm
11:03 < Wombert> so you set "foo", and then data?
11:03 < Wombert> but then all fields need to be like foo[zomg] etc, right?
11:03 < Wombert> do you call setForm() more than once? ;)
11:04 < E_mE> ja they are delivery[fname]
11:04 < E_mE> i shouldn't be callign it more then once
11:04 < Wombert> k
11:04 < Wombert> is the form action the same as the current url?
11:05 < Wombert> if not, you need to force that, or populate the form by id
11:05 < E_mE> ah how can i force by id?
11:05 < E_mE> the form is not the same url, its going from subscription/billing -> subscription/delivery
11:05 < E_mE> and im manually calling it to populate the form
11:06 < Wombert> array('formid' => $ph)
11:06 < Wombert> as value
11:06 < Wombert> well, $ap
11:07 < E_mE> so instead of populate i use formid?
11:08 < Wombert> no
11:08 < Wombert> as the value
11:09 < E_mE> so instead of array('delivery'=>array("fname"=>"cats"));  with delivery being the the delivery[fname] part, its array('delivery_form'=>array('delivery[fname]'=>"cats"))?
11:15 < Wombert>  o
11:15 < Wombert> no
11:16 < Wombert> the value for populate
11:16 < Wombert> is either a ph
11:16 < Wombert> or array of formid/ph pairs
11:16 < E_mE> i tried array('delivery'=>array("fname"=>"cats"), "formid"=>"delivery_form")
11:17 < E_mE> ph sorry?
11:18 < Wombert> parameter holder
11:18 < E_mE> ah see i get you now :)
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11:27 < E_mE> woop Wombert ... works great :D
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11:54 < CIA-4> felix * r3379 /branches/felix-config-cache-refactoring/src/config/AgaviConfigCache.class.php: 
11:54 < CIA-4> - final piece of refactoring
11:54 < CIA-4> - created the executeHandler() method
11:54 < CIA-4> - made loadConfigHandlers() reentry safe
11:54 < CIA-4> - closes #829
11:58 < marklar|omni> ohai
11:59 < horros> *sigh*
11:59 < horros> Maybe *NOW* I can get at the new app.
12:00 < horros> Stupid bug fixes.
12:01 < CIA-4> felix * r3380 /branches/1.0/ (7 files in 5 dirs): 
12:01 < CIA-4> - Backmerge of the felix-config-cache-refactoring branch
12:01 < CIA-4> - closes #929
12:01 < CIA-4> - see http://trac.agavi.org/wiki/RFCs/Ticket929
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12:52 < mach3_domke> How i can Create a PDF with Agavi? Or is there an example for an Outputtype PDF?!
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13:06 < Macen> mach3_domke: good question...
13:08 < mach3_domke> Thanks :) The  first one :)
13:09 < v-dogg> create a new output type "pdf" (output_type.xml, no layout required, http headers "application/pdf" etc.)
13:09 < v-dogg> and in the view's executePdf() render the pdf 
13:09 < v-dogg> that's it
13:10 < mach3_domke> Cool
13:10 < mach3_domke> THX
13:10 < v-dogg> and no, agavi doesn't ship with a pdf lib. use Zend_Pdf or some other
13:10 < Wombert> heh
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13:14 < v-dogg> oh and you prolly want a route like  
13:14 < mach3_domke> thx
13:14 < v-dogg> $ro->gen('foo+pdf') => "/my/foo/route/pdf"
13:18 < mach3_domke> hmm
13:19 < mach3_domke> route works PDF will be created but with an Error..
13:19 < mach3_domke> Acrobar Reader Said: File not beginns with "%PDF-"
13:20 < Wombert> well, check the output first
13:20 < v-dogg> open the file into a text editor and see what's there
13:20 < Wombert> probaly contains a php notice or something
13:20 < v-dogg> or FPF has added HTML into it
13:20 < mach3_domke> what is FPF
13:21 < v-dogg> form population filter
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13:21 < mach3_domke> oh ok :) 
13:22 < Wombert> nah v-dogg the fpf is configured for html only
13:22 < v-dogg> ok
13:22 < v-dogg> (how do you know :)
13:22 < mach3_domke> so how i have to transfare my String to the PDF Document
13:23 < mach3_domke> my public function executePDF(AgaviRequestDataHolder $rd) contains return "fufufuf";
13:23 < v-dogg> usually: $this->setAttribute() in the action => $this-getAttribute() in the view
13:24 < v-dogg> uhmm. waht?
13:24 < v-dogg> when I said "you render the pdf" I meant you _render_ the pdf
13:24 < v-dogg> you use some pdf tool (like Zend_PDF) to do that
13:25 < v-dogg> agavi doesn't do that for you
13:25 < mach3_domke> ok miss understanding :)
13:26 < mach3_domke> ok
13:28 < Wombert> well you need to generate the pdf somehow of course, inside the view!?
13:28 < Wombert> with Zend_Pdf or such
13:28 < mach3_domke> ok i try to use Zend PDF
13:28 < mach3_domke> have to look first how to use it :)
13:29 < mach3_domke> maybe it takes a while ;)
13:29 < Wombert> :)
13:29 < Wombert> and just return the pdf contents from the view than
13:29 < Wombert> that should work fine
13:30 < mach3_domke> i have to include it
13:33 < Wombert> what
13:33 < Wombert> zend?
13:35 < mach3_domke> no Zend_PDF
13:36 < MikeSeth> I do it in ruby
13:37 < mach3_domke> u do what?
13:37 < v-dogg> MikeSeth: please don't make this any more confusing :D
13:37 < v-dogg> mach3_domke: yes, you need to include/load/autoload/something a library to use it. that's how PHP works
13:38 < MikeSeth> PDF :D
13:38 < v-dogg> zend framework has some autoloading mechanism if I'm not mistaken
13:39 < mach3_domke> yep
13:41 < mach3_domke> is Zend_PDF easy to use?
13:41 < mach3_domke> i only knows fpdf
13:44 < Wombert> no idea, never used it
13:45  * Wombert hugs MikeSeth 
13:45  * Wombert hugs v-dogg 
13:46 < Wombert> you can also use fpdf, of course
13:46 < mach3_domke> maybe i can show at the and of the week my results of using Agavi. Only if someone want to :D
13:47 < Wombert> sure!
13:47 < Wombert> :)
13:47 < Wombert> (but only if it's cool, heh :D)
13:47 < mach3_domke> i hope it is :)
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14:29 < mach3_domke> arrrg FuUcK fPdf
14:29 < mach3_domke> i will use Zend_PDF :)
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14:44 < MikeSeth> OLOLOLO
14:44 < MikeSeth> I love myself
14:44 < MikeSeth> mysql> select * from users where login like '%bot%'\G
14:44 < MikeSeth> *************************** 1. row ***************************
14:44 < MikeSeth>                        id: 44
14:44 < MikeSeth>                      name: VOODOO MAGIC
14:44 < MikeSeth>                     login: bot
14:44 < MikeSeth>                  password: bukkakke
14:46 < Macen> i love you too
14:46 < Macen> but i've been holding back from saying 'cause i dint wanna scare you off
14:46 < Macen> :<
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14:57 < liutis> o_O key \G rooools :)
14:58 < E_mE> whats the most reliable way of discovering the web browser via agavi?
15:00 < MikeSeth> E_mE: there's really only way, User-Agent header
15:01 < E_mE> ah okay, because IE6 is causing smegging problems!! 
15:01  * E_mE punches it VERY firm and hard
15:03 < MikeSeth> E_mE: http://www.stopie6.org
15:03 < E_mE> should be a kill and shit on ie6
15:05 < CIA-4> felix * r3381 /branches/felix-config-cache-refactoring/test/lib/config/AgaviTestingConfigCache.class.php: missing method overwrites+
15:08 < CIA-4> felix * r3382 /branches/felix-config-cache-refactoring/test/sandbox/app/config/config_handlers.xml: missing config handlers file
15:10 < CIA-4> felix * r3383 /branches/1.0/test/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
15:10 < CIA-4> - adds missing AgaviTestingConfigCache methods
15:10 < CIA-4> - adds missing config_handlers.xml entries
15:10 < CIA-4> - fixes failing testcase
15:11 < CIA-4> felix * r3384 /branches/felix-testing-implementation/ (57 files in 22 dirs): (log message trimmed)
15:11 < CIA-4> Merged revisions 3338-3340,3342-3347,3349-3354,3363-3364,3366,3368-3369,3371-3373,3376-3377 via svnmerge from
15:11 < CIA-4> https://svn.agavi.org/branches/1.0
15:11 < CIA-4> ........
15:11 < CIA-4> r3338 | felix | 2008-12-01 19:27:50 +0100 (Mon, 01 Dec 2008) | 2 lines
15:11 < CIA-4> - changed the algorithm for creation of the cache name
15:11 < CIA-4> - refs #932
15:12 < E_mE> MikeSeth: Do you have problems with cyrallic characeters in Emacs?
15:13 < E_mE> i can paste them in, but when i re-open the file afterwards it displays them as squares
15:13 < MikeSeth> E_mE: emacs 23 doesnt
15:13 < CIA-4> felix * r3385 /branches/felix-testing-implementation/ (9 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)
15:13 < CIA-4> Merged revisions 3380,3383 via svnmerge from
15:13 < CIA-4> https://svn.agavi.org/branches/1.0
15:13 < CIA-4> ........
15:13 < CIA-4> r3380 | felix | 2008-12-03 13:01:37 +0100 (Wed, 03 Dec 2008) | 5 lines
15:13 < CIA-4> - Backmerge of the felix-config-cache-refactoring branch
15:13 < CIA-4> - refs #929
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15:21 < mach3_domke> what does it mean?   Using domain "layout" which has no path specified
15:22 < mach3_domke> 0: C:\xampp\htdocs\xampp\pressWeb\library\agavi\translation\AgaviGettextTranslator.class.php (line: 193)
15:23 < v-dogg> mach3_domke: you are trying to translate a string using a non-existent translation domain
15:24 < v-dogg> where do you get this?
15:26 < mach3_domke> what do u mean with where?
15:28 < v-dogg> what do you do when this error appears? 
15:28 < v-dogg> it only appears occasionally, right?
15:32 < v-dogg> home, bbl ->
15:34 < CIA-4> felix * r3386 /branches/felix-config-cache-refactoring/: removing finished branch, changes have been merged back to 1.0
15:34 < mach3_domke> yes occasionally
15:34 < mach3_domke> what can i do?
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15:36 < Wombert> mach3_domke: stack trace?
15:36 < mach3_domke> http://pastebin.ca/1275006
15:37 < Wombert> 3: C:\xampp\htdocs\xampp\pressWeb\pressWeb\app\templates\Master.php (line: 22)
15:37 < Wombert> there
15:37 < Wombert> that has a translation call
15:37 < Wombert> apparently
15:37 < mach3_domke> _('PressWeb', 'default.layout'); ?>??
15:37 < mach3_domke> sucks :)
15:38 < mach3_domke> thanks stupid error :)
15:38 < Xylakant> well - either remove the call or configure the translation domain
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15:59 < Snark41> Huomenta! Why can I not read the cookie data from my Action?
16:00 < Snark41> Need I to validate it?
16:01 < Wombert> yes
16:01 < Wombert> cookies, headers, files, parameters... all user input :)
16:01 < Snark41> And how?
16:02 < Wombert> 
16:02 < Snark41> A!
16:04 < Snark41> Do I need the , if I do not know cookies name?
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16:09 < Wombert> Snark41: uh well you have to know the name, of course :p
16:10 < Wombert> if you don't know the name, you can't fetch it, right?
16:11 < Snark41> its look like 'TTT_ID_23452345234'
16:12 < Wombert> and how do you know the id?
16:12 < mach3_domke> bb
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16:12 < Wombert> you can validate it by hand in your action
16:12 < Wombert> for instance
16:12 < Wombert> or register the validator by hand
16:12 < Wombert> or you make the cookie an array :)
16:12 < Wombert> TTT_ID[23...]
16:12 < Snark41> I don't know the id, I wont to readt it :)
16:13 < Snark41> hmm..
16:14 < v-dogg> how do you read it if you don't know the name?
16:14 < v-dogg> you were going to loop thru all cookies? bad idea
16:15 < Snark41> :(
16:15 < Snark41> I know the value
16:16 < v-dogg> mm... k...
16:17 < Snark41> ok, but also if I know the name, it's doesn't work :(
16:17 < Snark41> my validator look like this:
16:17 < Snark41>             
16:17 < Snark41>                 
16:17 < Snark41>                     locale
16:17 < Snark41>                 
16:17 < Snark41>                   
16:17 < Snark41>                     Invalid locale
16:17 < Snark41>                 
16:17 < Snark41>              
16:18 < Snark41> and in cookies is set "locale=en"
16:18 < Snark41> but I can't read it
16:18 < Snark41> var_dump($_COOKIE); 
16:18 < Wombert> uhm
16:18 < Snark41> = array
16:18 < Snark41>   empty
16:18  * Wombert blinks
16:19 < Wombert> $rd->getCookie('locale');
16:19 < Snark41> = null
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16:28 < Snark41> Wombert: it doesn't work :(
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17:01 < CIA-4> - fixed infinite loop in setupHandlers() after loading a new config handlers file
17:01 < CIA-4> - adds a test for #941
17:01 < CIA-4> - fixes #941
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17:07 < Wombert> bleachy: got a fix for that routing issue
17:07 < Wombert> thanks for spotting it
17:09 < bleachy> cool, thanks for sorting it so quickly Wombert. I only noticed it cos I've integrated with a legacy app and theres was an ajax call with action in the request data which agavi was setting. I didn't even know it looked to the request data at all. 
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17:23 < Wombert> bleachy: yeah that's legacy
17:23 < Wombert> in 1.0, that will be off by default, and it won't populate "module" and "action" request params, either
17:23 < bleachy> awesome, so will this fix be available in beta7?
17:23 < Wombert> sure
17:24 < Wombert> oh you mean the last one?
17:24 < Wombert> no
17:24 < Wombert> that's coming in beta8 as part of a bigger routing refactoring
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17:24 < bleachy> oh ok
17:24 < Wombert> but the fix for #934 is coming in the next release, yes
17:25 < bleachy> thats great, I can remove my mediocre sticking plaster for it then :) 
17:38 < Wombert> btw marklar|omni 
17:38 < Wombert> 11:26 < marklar|omni> RUSSIA HAS DEFEAT NAZI ALONE, WITH ONE HAND TIED BEHIND BACK, DRUNK, WITH THREE KNIVES RAMMED IN BACK AND STUCK CAPS LOCK
17:38 < Wombert> super lol
17:54 < CIA-4> david * r3388 /branches/0.11/ (CHANGELOG src/routing/AgaviRouting.class.php): fixed #934: Possible to run any action by passing module/action parameters to invalid URL
17:56 < CIA-4> felix * r3389 /branches/1.0/test/tests/unit/config/AgaviConfigCacheTest.php: it's "markTestSkipped" not 'markSkipped'
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17:58 < CIA-4> felix * r3390 /branches/1.0/CHANGELOG: 
17:58 < CIA-4> added changelog entry for #941
17:58 < CIA-4> - refs #941
18:02 < CIA-4> david * r3391 /branches/1.0/ (CHANGELOG src/routing/AgaviRouting.class.php): merge [3376:3390/branches/0.11]
18:07 < Wombert> there you go, bleachy 
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18:09 < bleachy> thanks a lot Wombert!
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18:53 < _cheerios> jee
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19:18 < Wombert> fuck
19:18 < Wombert> gah
19:18  * Wombert stabs CHANGELOG
19:19  * digitarald gets a first aid kit for CHANGELOG
19:19 < digitarald> !medic
19:20 < Wombert> DANKE HERR DOKTOR
19:25 < graste> -.-
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19:59 < _cheerios> "please cheerios come to my place for the night im not feeling safe..." can't even code in peace :|
20:00 < v-dogg> _cheerios a.k.a. The Knight in a Shining Armor :)
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21:13 < matbtt> Hi all, did somebody of you use Agavi for building RESTful applications? 
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22:14 < graste> but should be possible
22:15 < graste> executeRead(), executeWrite(), executeCreate(), executeDelete()
22:18 < graste> AgaviWebRequest maps the HTTP verbs imho
22:19 < matbtt> Thx, defining the methods is not the problem,  I wonder how to solve two issues:
22:20 < matbtt> 1) A non-automatic client needs some kind of a form to enter data. So I need to define something like a executeInput or executeForm?
22:21 < graste> just use a route to call an action with an executeWrite to handle the POST data of the displayed html form?
22:25 < graste> well at least it's only GET/POST for html forms
22:25 < matbtt> The question is how the client can request the HTML form. If he uses a GET executeRead will be executed, so obviously some additional method is required. 
22:26 < matbtt> Even with HTML forms you have PUT and DELETE, as PUT is IMHO used to create a resource while DELETE should be used for deletion.
22:26 < graste> use one page to display the form and submit it to the RESTful action?
22:28 < graste> i think put and delete are not supported by forms - but I could be wrong - I always thought you have to use other techniques to use PUT/DELETE (like javascript XHR or some standalone/other client)
22:28 < matbtt> Yeah, but preparing the form might require additonal calls to the model. Thus I think, that a executeInput method is required. 
22:29 < matbtt> Forms support only these two methods, so a hack is required to simulate this behaviour. Ruby on Rails uses a hidden field for that...
22:30 < matbtt> which is evaluated by the framework
22:30 < graste> yes, saw that a few months ago, but didn't have to build a RESTful thingy back then ;)
22:31 < graste> hm
22:31 < graste> sorry, but I still don't understand your form problem, I guess :x
22:32 < matbtt> Ok, I'll try to explain it with my example 
22:32 < matbtt> :)
22:33 < graste> <:
22:37 < matbtt> Let's say there is a resource called Account, identified by /account/{id}, than you'll have one Action with read/write/create/delete methods. But how should the action know, how to process with a GET request?
22:37 < matbtt> You cannot distinguish between: the client wants to see the Account or wants to get the form for creating a new one. Ok, you can check, whether the id is set and if its not show the input form, but his is cumbersome
22:38 < matbtt> GET on /account would show the input form, GET on /account/matbtt would return the details..?
22:40 < graste> i see
22:40 < matbtt> so, I'll go for the additional method
22:41 < graste> why not use 2 modules - one for your forms and one for your REST api?
22:41 < matbtt> ...for PUT/DELETE I fear I have to "customise" the core.
22:41 < matbtt> ...two modules, too much work, I'm lazy :)
22:41 < graste> hehe
22:42 < matbtt> After solving that there is one more problem. To unify the input. The action should work on, lets say an array. But if the client sends XML, this needs to be transformed, but I think a validator can do this depending on the content type. 
22:42 < graste> and for put/delete (in case you don't want to go that XHR route) you could just check in you executeWrite() method if your form has been posted with some hidden field
22:44 < matbtt> The action should not know about this. :(
22:44 < graste> <:
22:44 < graste> get it
22:45 < graste> perhaps you could use a filter?
22:45 < matbtt> Thx, good idea, I'll build an example to check this out
22:47 < graste> would like to see an example in case you've got a nice solution :)
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22:48 < matbtt> I'll give u an update. Cheers
22:48 < graste> gn8 ^^
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01:54 < CIA-4> impl * r3392 /branches/1.0/ (CHANGELOG src/config/rng/validators.rng): Fix #942: Arguments are unable to be named in validators configuration
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03:00 < MugeSo> Huomenta
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05:15 < v-dogg> huomenta
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06:55 < horros> huomenta
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08:18 < _cheerios> huomenta
08:42 < mach3_domke> what does it mean? huomenta
08:42 < horros> mach3_domke: See topic :)
08:42 < horros> http://trac.agavi.org/wiki/Huomenta
08:43 < mach3_domke> :)
08:43 < mach3_domke> then -> huomenta
08:43 < mach3_domke> !!!
08:44 < horros> :)
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09:44 < E_mE> huomenta
09:45 < mach3_domke> huomenta
09:47 < E_mE> anyone seen the release of Yii?  http://www.urdalen.com/blog/?p=304  -- described: The name Yii (pronounced as [i:]) stands for easy, efficient and extensible
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09:49 < mach3_domke> wtf is Yii?
09:49 < mach3_domke>  is it good
09:49 < E_mE> i just saw it on my rss streams
09:49 < mach3_domke> i can remember that wombert say something abpout prado
09:49 < E_mE> wondered if anyone else had heard of it
09:50 < mach3_domke> -p
09:50 < mach3_domke> prado is the version befor Yii
09:50 < mach3_domke> hmm wombert is not here
09:52 < mach3_domke> Yii Sucks 
09:52 < mach3_domke> because its for JQuery
09:52 < Macen> mootools <3
09:52 < mach3_domke> mootOOls 4 ever
09:53 < mach3_domke> :)
09:53 < Macen> shouldn't that be mOOtools? :P
09:53 < mach3_domke> :D
09:56 < _cheerios> http://www.yiiframework.com/performance/ :heart
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09:57 < Seldaek> Bow before jQuery, heathens !
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09:58 < _cheerios> good to see more competition on the php framework scene from ppl whom know their stuff
10:02 < bleachy> huomenta
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10:02 < bleachy> does anyone know why i might be seeing this error: "Line 27: Element '{http://agavi.org/agavi/1.0/config}slot', attribute 'method': The attribute 'method' is not allowed"
10:02 < bleachy> I know that attribute was allowed at one point
10:03 < bleachy> thats in output_types.xml
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10:03 < mach3_domke> i don't like Frameworks wich have an specified JS Framework integrated
10:03 < bleachy> first line is: ""
10:03 < bleachy> Is that wrong?
10:04 < Macen> require_once(dirname(__FILE__).'/../../framework/yii.php');
10:04 < Macen> why do they need __FILE__ ?
10:04 < E_mE> oh man: from Yii: n MVC, the model represents the information (the data) and the business rules;
10:05 < mach3_domke> 
10:05 < mach3_domke> that is mine
10:06 < E_mE> Macen: they use __FILE__ To get a definate file location
10:06 < bleachy> mach3_domke: same as mine then, and you've never seen any validation errors?
10:08 < mach3_domke> validation errors where?
10:09 < bleachy> XML schema validation errors
10:09 < Macen> E_mE: hmm..
10:10 < mach3_domke> i think u use an not existing attribute 
10:10 < E_mE> its not the cleanest way of managing file locations no, but it does garaentee file location? Or do you have a counter arguemnt
10:10 < mach3_domke> in your Validation XML
10:11 < mach3_domke> what du u want with attribute 'method': The attribute 'method' is not allowed"
10:11 < mach3_domke> du = do :)
10:12 < mach3_domke> bleachy http://pastebin.ca/1275734
10:12 < bleachy> mach3_domke: this is in output_types.xml. I could probably remove that attribute, but the weird thing is it works for me (and others in the team), but one person reported this validation error....so now i have to investigate :)
10:13 < _cheerios> IE6 has some interesting bugs, gives a popup with a "page not found" after loading it... with a dnserror.html thingy at the bottom.
10:13  * E_mE hands _cheerios a gun
10:13 < mach3_domke> maybe v-dogg has an answer
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10:35 < graste> jquery ftw :x
10:36 < MikeSeth_> yipeee
10:36  * MikeSeth_ hooks up a jquery flexigrid widget into a legacy app for great justice
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10:39 < Macen> extjs good for grids
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11:17 < E_mE> OH YES! I will be getting my new Macbook next week :D
11:20 < Rendez_> hey E_mE: the small one?
11:21 < E_mE> ja, the 2GHz one ;)
11:21 < E_mE> solid alo unibody
11:21 < Rendez_> the best MB sell ever, I would have bough any less than MBP except for this one :)
11:21 < Rendez_> wouldn't*
11:22 < ttj> Macs... Pfft...
11:23 < Rendez_> exceptics are welcome too xD
11:23 < Rendez_> skepticals*
11:23 < Rendez_> new word learnt today, YES!
11:25 < E_mE> ttj: =P 
11:25 < E_mE> its a beautiful laptop ... will be solid and easy for me to carry on the bus etc
11:28 < ttj> Pfft.
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11:38 < Macen> Time Machine saved my balls yesterday 
11:40 < Macen> yet another Mac victory 
11:48 < horros> Huh?
11:51 < horros> Aha. Time Machine is Mac's answer to Windows Restore Points (which it's had since, oh, 2001.
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11:57 < Macen> umm
11:57 < Macen> there is no comparison there
11:58 < Macen> what so ever
11:58 < Macen> it's a backup solution
11:58 < Macen> restore point is a quick fix to a failing operating system
11:58 < horros> And why is that? Because Time Machine backs up your Garage Band stuff?
11:58 < Macen> majorly different ;>
11:58 < Macen> eh
11:58 < Macen> what is that
11:58 < Macen> time machine is a backup solution
11:59 < Macen> you can restore individual files from a certain point in time
11:59 < horros> I still don't see how Time Machine is any different from running scheduled backups (like any sane person does) and creating restore points on an external drive.
11:59 < horros> Which Windows has been doing since XP.
11:59 < E_mE> horros: i think its the ease of use that makes it different
11:59 < Macen> srsly
11:59 < Macen> you don't get it
11:59 < horros> lol
11:59 < horros> I bet I don't.
12:00 < horros> lol
12:00 < horros> "Some OS X applications work with Time Machine, such as Finder, Mail, Address Book, iPhoto '08, and GarageBand '08."
12:00 < Macen> i've only ever used it with Finder 
12:01 < Macen> which is the file system basically 
12:01 < Macen> you go to the location, open Time Machine, and you can scroll backwards and forwards along a timeline and choose the version of file or whatever that you want to restore too
12:01 < Macen> it's GUI for one
12:02 < Macen> and it works out of the box
12:02 < horros> wow!
12:02 < horros> That's BRILLIANT!
12:02 < Macen> ya
12:02 < Macen> try it and see :P
12:02 < Macen> heh
12:02  * E_mE pets horros 
12:06 < Macen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWdkfCwd4qU
12:06 < Macen> you do need an external HDD but yeh it's a built in OS function 
12:07 < Macen> that works with Apple supplied products, too
12:08 < Macen> a less biased version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8nnrWKAeEU
12:11 < mach3_domke> thats realy cool
12:52 < CIA-4> david * r3393 /branches/0.11/ (CHANGELOG src/filter/AgaviFormPopulationFilter.class.php): Fixed #943: FPF error insertion fails if XPath expression yields more than one location in the document
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13:38 < selloso> Huomenta
13:40 < _cheerios> why does ordering by datetime cause a filesort in mysql?
13:40 < selloso> has anybody tried to create a new module manualy in his agavi app and this new module couldn't be found although the spelling in the routing.xml and the module.xml is the same as the module dir name ? :) I guess I'm just too stupid to get behind my mistake ...
13:41 < MrJeep> Huomenta
13:42 < MrJeep> selloso: look in the config module dir
13:42 < MrJeep> and make sure the  is written correctly
13:43 < mach3_domke> autoload.xml?
13:43 < mach3_domke> did u add it therè?
13:43 < MrJeep> modules//config/module.xml
13:43 < MrJeep> it's added automatically
13:43 < selloso> ja, I added the module.xml but not the atoload.xml
13:44 < selloso> so there's no modules//config/autoload.xml
13:44 < selloso> but I also don't have one in my defaut module ...
13:44 < MrJeep> I'm not sure autoload.xml is required
13:44 < mach3_domke> no its not
13:45 < mach3_domke> because u need to add in the autoload.xml if u add a modul :)
13:45 < mach3_domke> i was wrong :)
13:45 < mach3_domke> sry
13:45 < selloso> no prob
13:45 < mach3_domke> <-- ME    STFU
13:46 < selloso> so I do have to add somthin to the autoload.xml if i create a new module?
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13:46 < selloso> I mean in the base config dir
13:47 < MrJeep> could you paste the content of your module.xml 
13:47 < MrJeep> in pastie or sumting
13:47 < v-dogg> selloso: no
13:47 < mach3_domke> no only for a model
13:47 < mach3_domke> i think :)
13:47 < v-dogg> not even for models
13:47 < selloso> yeah, that's what I thought
13:48 < _cheerios> hmm, could be mysql bug. getting diff results on 5.1.
13:48 < selloso> I don't have any issues concerning models ;)
13:48 < selloso> Okay, I'm gonna paste my module.xml
13:49 < selloso> http://pastie.org/330853
13:50 < selloso> there u r
13:52 < selloso> in addition I have to say that I'm using OSX 10.5 and Agavi 0.11.5
13:53 < mach3_domke> LOL
13:54 < mach3_domke> i think i found a bug :D
13:54 < selloso> oh dear, hopefully not in my xml code ;)
13:54 < selloso> so please tell us :)
13:55 < mach3_domke> no no
13:55 < mach3_domke> in FPF i think 
13:56 < selloso> sorry ... in what?
13:57 < mach3_domke> FPF = FormPopulationFilter
13:57 < selloso> oh, silly me ...
13:57 < mach3_domke> i leaned it yesterday too 
13:57 < mach3_domke> :)
13:57 < selloso> oh, so it's not too bad :-D
13:58 < mach3_domke> yes :)
13:58 < selloso> and this bug you found is the reason for my problem?
13:59 < mach3_domke> wrong Alert it was my misstake :(
13:59 < selloso> what a pity ...
14:01 < mach3_domke> punish my self
14:01 < selloso> So do you have any clue why this f... module is not ... uhm ... foundable ;)
14:01 < selloso> oh, I forgot the '?'
14:01 < selloso> No, please don't punish yourself
14:02 < mach3_domke> :)
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14:02 < mach3_domke> hmm wait i asked my co-worker
14:02 < selloso> punish my module :-D
14:02 < MrJeep> selloso: is your module named : MBrainz
14:02 < selloso> right
14:03 < selloso> and I also spelled it right in the routing.xml
14:03 < MrJeep> ok then paste your routing.xml
14:03 < v-dogg> selloso: and you have app/modules/MBrainz/actions|templates|views etc ?
14:03 < selloso> and when I tried to call a action of this module I get an 404
14:03 < selloso> let me check one more time ;)
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14:04 < mach3_domke> maybe in the action u write simthing wrong    class MBrainz_FooAction extends AgaviSampleAppDefaultBaseAction
14:04 < mach3_domke> simthing = something
14:04 < v-dogg> selloso: 
14:04 < v-dogg> var_dump($this->context->getRequest()->getAttribute('matched_routes', 'org.agavi.routing');
14:04 < v-dogg> in the 404 action
14:05 < v-dogg> or view
14:05 < selloso> okay, I'm gonna try
14:05 < selloso> wait a sec
14:06 < v-dogg> if the route is there the problem is in the module or action (wrong name, wrong directory something), if the route isn't there you need to sort out your routing.xml
14:06 < mach3_domke> ha selloso your name is Marcel ? mine too :D
14:06 < v-dogg> are you sure the action's class name is correct? MyModule_MyAction extends My[Module]BaseAction
14:07 < selloso> mach3: Hey, that's cool
14:07 < mach3_domke> maybe :D
14:07 < v-dogg> selloso: note that you cannot copy actions between modules without renaming them
14:07 < selloso> v-dogg: I extend from AgaviAction
14:07 < selloso> yeah I know that
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14:08 < mach3_domke> show us the action
14:08 < v-dogg> you can extend AgaviAction directly (but you really shouldn't)
14:08 < selloso> yeah, I know that
14:08 < selloso> I just wanted to test something
14:08 < selloso> wait a sec, please :-D
14:09 < selloso> I just extended the error view
14:09 < selloso> with your code line
14:10 < selloso> okay, I get this output
14:10 < selloso> array(1) { [0]=> string(14) "mbArtistSearch" } 
14:11 < selloso> mbArtistSearch is the name of the route
14:12 < v-dogg> then: check you have module and action defined for that route (either directly or from a parent)
14:12 < v-dogg> and then: check your class names and file/directory names
14:12 < selloso> and that's my action
14:12 < selloso> http://pastie.org/330866
14:13 < selloso> I do have defined an action and and module attribute for this route 
14:13 < v-dogg> paste the route please
14:14 < selloso> 
14:14 < selloso> the module dir is named MBrainz
14:14 < selloso> there is an action dir
14:15 < v-dogg> and the action's file name?
14:15 < selloso> within this folder there is a file which is named ArtistSearchAction.class.php
14:15 < v-dogg> the action dir is named "actions" and not "action", right?
14:16 < selloso> OH LORD!
14:16 < v-dogg> yes, my child :)
14:16 < selloso> well, maybe I should say oh V-DOOOOOOOOGG ;)
14:17 < mach3_domke> :9 v-dogg is the best :)
14:17 < selloso> too bad ... man ... nw I' _have_ to punish myself
14:17 < selloso> ;)
14:17 < mach3_domke> ;)
14:18 < selloso> so, let me check it
14:18 < selloso> have to wait for the phing script ...
14:19 < v-dogg> SO what did we learn here?! U-S-E  T-H-E  A-G-A-V-I  S-C-R-I-P-T!
14:20 < v-dogg> repeat after me: if the script can do it for me I will not do it manually!
14:20 < selloso> sorry... I don't speak Englsih anymore :-D
14:20 < selloso> well, I just installed agavi via pear
14:21 < whisller> if we're saying about scripts which can do something for us. what is a better way to use agavi in CLI context? 
14:21 < selloso> so is this a got way to say 'sorry loard'?
14:21 < selloso> you're right :-D
14:21 < v-dogg> no, don't use pear, pear sucks :)
14:22 < selloso> I don't think so :-D
14:22 < v-dogg> install agavi per project, not globally
14:22 < whisller> true true,
14:22 < selloso> it's a good possibility to keep up-to-date
14:22 < whisller> globally sucks
14:22 < v-dogg> this way you can also control it per project
14:22 < whisller> If you will have couple projects with other agavis pear will kick your balls ;p
14:22 < v-dogg> selloso: svn:external http://svn.agavi.org/tags/1.0.0beta6
14:23 < v-dogg> selloso: then, when a new version is released, just update your svn:external
14:23 < selloso> Oh, I guess I'm gonna be pear mud in a couple of mins
14:23 < v-dogg> selloso: and if projectB can't for some reason use the new version, don't update that
14:23 < v-dogg> simple
14:24 < selloso> I know that but I just use agavi for one (big) project
14:24 < selloso> but you're right
14:24 < mach3_domke> Question: my route 
14:24 < selloso> I should use the scripts and by this also my svn
14:25 < mach3_domke> this pattern (id:\w+)$ allows maybe this?   path/path/1,2,3
14:25 < selloso> yeah, mach3, you're als German
14:25 < selloso> :-D
14:25 < mach3_domke> path/path/id=1,2,3
14:25 < mach3_domke> yes but here u have to speak english ;)
14:26 < selloso> so I did, didn't I?
14:26 < selloso> just wanted to mention
14:27 < horros> "I'm sorry? Oh, GERMAN! I thought there was something wrong with you!"
14:28 < mach3_domke> :LD
14:28 < mach3_domke> :D
14:28 < selloso> :)
14:28 < mach3_domke> 14:43: selloso:  ja, I added the module.xml but not the atoload.xml 
14:29 < mach3_domke> ja is german ;)
14:29 < horros> Yes, I know, I studied German for... umm, four or so years.
14:29 < horros> :)
14:29 < selloso> yeah, can't get out of my skin ...
14:29 < mach3_domke> :)
14:29 < selloso> Did you like it?
14:30 < horros> No. Smegging ackusative and dative :x
14:30 < mach3_domke> german ?! Muttersprache !!! ;)
14:31 < selloso> :)
14:31 < mach3_domke> what allows this pattern ?   (id:\w+)$    
14:31 < selloso> damn - it still doesn't work 
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14:31 < mach3_domke> i want to add in my url  ?id=1,2,3
14:31 < v-dogg> horros: :D
14:32 < mach3_domke> to my URL of course..
14:33 < horros> v-dogg: One would assume that a people obsessed with procedures and regulations would have come up with smarter grammar :(
14:33 < selloso> mach3: http://de.selfhtml.org/perl/sprache/regexpr.htm
14:34 < v-dogg> horros: haha
14:36 < selloso> Is it also possible to put an additional routing.xml in the module?
14:37 < v-dogg> hmm... I think not. I think somebody asked this the other day and wombs said it wasn't
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14:37 < selloso> okay ...
14:38 < v-dogg> of course, this is quite simple to test :)
14:38 < v-dogg> but now that I think about it, routes must be parsed and matched _before_ any modules are loaded
14:39 < v-dogg> modules are loaded on-demand
14:39 < selloso> ah, okay
14:39 < selloso> good to know
14:40 < selloso> so if I'd deliver some optional modules for my software the module has to be added to the modules dir and there has to be an entry in the routing.xml
14:41 < v-dogg> yes (although, you can use a module without having any routes directly to it)
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14:42 < selloso> Can you make an example?
14:42 < v-dogg> you can for example only use models from a module or create execution containers manually
14:42 < mach3_domke> [-\d] was what i was lokking for ;)
14:42 < mach3_domke> looking :D
14:42 < selloso> mach3: Okay :)
14:43 < selloso> hmm, now I want to execute the actions and views of the second module but the templates of the default one. How I have to do this?
14:44 < selloso> since the decorater template is stored in the default module
14:46 < selloso> My layout looks like this
14:46 < selloso> http://pastie.org/330897
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14:50 < selloso> well, I could store the decorater in the main template dir ...
14:50 < MrJeep> just give me a sec
14:50 < MrJeep> I'll paste you mine
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14:50 < selloso> cool
14:50 < selloso> thx
14:51 < MrJeep> indentation is screwed up but... http://pastie.org/330902
14:52 < crazyhead> any idea how the x:includes works? i wanna have more then 1 routing.xml (module based routings)
14:54 < selloso> MrJeep: hm, okay... but slots are always module-based?
14:54 < selloso> crazyhead: This is not possible as I know because modules are loaded on demand
14:55 < crazyhead> yes i know
14:55 < crazyhead> but i ask david a few days ago and he said: x:includes :P
14:55 < selloso> okay, never mind :-D
14:56 < MrJeep> 
14:56 < crazyhead> into the original routing?
14:56 < MrJeep> 
14:56 < MrJeep> this is what I would guess
14:56 < MrJeep> but it's a good idea
14:57 < selloso> certainly it is
14:57 < MrJeep> it makes modules more portable
14:57 < MrJeep> I would not be surprised to see this feature in future releases
14:57 < crazyhead> i made a task..
14:58 < crazyhead> few days ago..
14:58 < crazyhead> :P
14:58 < crazyhead> http://trac.agavi.org/ticket/930
14:59 < crazyhead> so you will not see this feature in future ^^
15:00 < MrJeep> only the future will tell... or you could build a  time machine and tell me
15:00 < MrJeep> then I'll buy your time machine 10$
15:00 < crazyhead> haha
15:00 < crazyhead> :P
15:01 < crazyhead> better idea: tell me where i put the x:include
15:02 < MrJeep> in your main routing.xml
15:03 < crazyhead> on top? on bottom? into a route? after ?xml ^^,..... where..
15:03 < crazyhead> ^^
15:04 < MrJeep> in the content
15:04 < MrJeep> it works like a common include
15:04 < MrJeep> http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2002/07/31/xinclude.html
15:04 < MrJeep> I think this might help
15:06 < crazyhead> thanks =)
15:07 < selloso> I'd say in the parent routing.xmkl
15:07 < selloso> xml
15:11 < mach3_domke> where can i get free webspace and DB?!
15:11 < mach3_domke> :)
15:12 < crazyhead> hmmm
15:12 < crazyhead> i try this:
15:12 < crazyhead> 	
15:12 < crazyhead> 		
15:12 < crazyhead> 	
15:13 < crazyhead> and it dosnt work, after this i try:
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15:13 < crazyhead>  after 
15:13 < crazyhead> with adding the xmlns into 
15:13 < crazyhead> also not work
15:14  * E_mE Smacks smarty! its fucking up inline JS code
15:14 < E_mE> any smegging { i thinks is a damn tag
15:15 < crazyhead> {literal}
15:15 < crazyhead> or literize
15:15 < crazyhead> before the js code
15:15 < crazyhead> ^^
15:16 < E_mE> ah thankyou
15:17 < crazyhead> and /closing .. 
15:18 < _cheerios> smarty is cool cept for that. well, forces you to use best practices (= placing most of your js in external files)
15:19 < E_mE> _cheerios: its mailing list code
15:19 < E_mE> i always generally put my JS in seprate files
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15:33 < mib_l8rmqi> hello, i get the following FPF error on a xhtml transitional site : Form Population Filter could not parse the document due to the following errors:     Line 41: Entity 'nbsp' not defined 
15:33 < mib_l8rmqi> what can i do?
15:34 < mib_l8rmqi> sorry is a strict site, can i switch off this behaviour?
15:38 < _cheerios>   ->  
15:38 < _cheerios> there is a flag to turn that off too, can't remember the name
15:40 < mib_l8rmqi> yes please that flag i need
15:43 < _cheerios> check the FPF source, could be fount in init/construct
15:44 < v-dogg> parse_as_html or something
15:44 < v-dogg> or resolve_entities (not recommended either)
15:46 < _cheerios> there was something else as of 1.0
15:47 < v-dogg> ok
15:47 < _cheerios> yes, ignore_parse_errors = true
15:49 < crazyhead> hmm
15:50 < crazyhead> ignoring errors is not a solution i think..
15:50 < mib_l8rmqi> ignore_parse_errors does not work in the filter def
15:51 < mib_l8rmqi> 0.11.5 here
15:51 < _cheerios> not sure where the setting goes :)
15:52 < _cheerios> http://trac.agavi.org/changeset/2685
15:52 < E_mE> http://960.gs/  <-- snassy
15:54 < mach3_domke> cu tomorrow
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15:55 < mib_l8rmqi> ok this is not in my code
15:55 < _cheerios> like said, you need 1.0
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16:00 < MikeSeth> umm
16:00 < MikeSeth> is there a way for a generic validator to substitute a default value for an argument if none is set?
16:00 < MikeSeth> i dont see anything like that in validation sauce
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16:49 < kaos|work_> MikeSeth: hum ?
16:50 < kaos|work_> you mean setting (and exporting) a default value into an argument if it was not set ?
16:52 < v-dogg> can be done easily with a custom validator. validators shipped with agavi don't support this
16:53 < v-dogg> in a way all my validators do that - if the argument is not set (and it's not required) NULL is exported
16:57 < MikeSeth> kaos|work_: no I mean generic default value
16:57 < kaos|work_> explain pls ;)
16:57 < MikeSeth> kaos|work_: if argument is not set, export a default value
16:58 < kaos|work_> ah
16:58 < MikeSeth> you can do this with $rd
16:58 < MikeSeth> and with custom validators
16:58 < MikeSeth> but not with generic ones
16:58 < kaos|work_> yes, hmm
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16:58 < MikeSeth> kaos|work_: in my case this is annoying because I have to maintain same defaults in $rd getattribute() calls both in view, action *and* template
16:58 < MikeSeth> thats kinda annoying
16:59 < kaos|work_> problem is that it's not easy to add
16:59 < kaos|work_> since you'd need to be able to specify that per argument
16:59 < kaos|work_> and not per validator
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17:00 < MikeSeth> kaos|work_: yes, and values might be nontrivial as well
17:00 < kaos|work_> yes
17:04 < v-dogg> and current validators are not ran when the parameter is not set
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17:04 < v-dogg> so this cannot be added without changing the functionality
17:05 < kaos|work_> they are somewhat, checkAllArgsSet is called to let the validator decide if it has all fields it needs to run
17:05 < kaos|work_> so you could access the info there
17:05 < MikeSeth> well then ill just import the values into container attributes in the action 
17:05 < MikeSeth> and never use $rd elsewhere
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17:12 < v-dogg> I'd say that's a good option anyway
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17:19 < MikeSeth> ummm wait what
17:19 < MikeSeth> $rd->getParameter('slice_first', 1) returns '' if no parameter is passed
17:19  * MikeSeth rubs his eyes
17:21 < v-dogg> read the api doc :)
17:22 < v-dogg> oops, sorry
17:22 < v-dogg> getAttribute confuzd
17:29 < MikeSeth> what the shit
17:29 < MikeSeth> seriously
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17:31 < MikeSeth> nvm ive been doing this for too long
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18:10 < Spica> Huomenta!
18:11 < Spica> How should I use the domains in AgaviTranslationManager?
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19:22 < _cheerios> huh-huh, crazy early 90's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Malloy
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20:06 < saracen> So, how do I want to render emails through Agavi? Anybody got any examples?
20:12 < saracen> Wombert: I made a new project from the head version. compile.xml failed
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20:39 < krycek> o/
20:40 < _cheerios> damn, yii is like 23k lines of code (+103k 3rd party), that's a lot for one guy to churn out for a framework
20:41 < MrJeep> yii ?
20:41 < _cheerios> http://www.yiiframework.com/
20:41 < MrJeep> yet another framework
20:42 < _cheerios> no, that name is taken by someone already :)
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20:43 < _cheerios> i'll make a framework in 2009 !1!
20:43 < MrJeep> I didn't mean yii meant yet another framework, I was just pointing the fact that there is another framework
20:43 < MrJeep> but at least we have choice
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20:43 < MrJeep> the choice to spend 5 weeks trying to find a good framework
20:44 < MrJeep> If you have a ’db’ database connection, you can test it now with: 
20:44 < MrJeep> $model=User::model()->find(); 
20:44 < MrJeep> is that weird ?
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20:46 < _cheerios> yes, what a n00b!
20:47 < jake> That would probably be better as $model=User::getInstance()->find();
20:47 < saracen> Anybody have an example of how to render a email using agavi's template classes etc? =(
20:47 < saracen> an*
20:47 < MrJeep> I do...
20:47 < MrJeep> I created my own renderer classes
20:47 < saracen> May I see it? :)
20:48 < MrJeep> 2 min, (a lof to paste
20:48 < MrJeep> but right now it uses the Swift library
20:49 < MrJeep> but you can change it and use whatever you need
20:49 < saracen> I was going to make mine use swift :)
20:49 < Wombert> uhm
20:49 < Wombert> $l = new AgaviFileTemplateLayer()
20:49 < Wombert> $l->...();
20:49 < Wombert> $l->execute()
20:49 < Wombert> done
20:49 < _cheerios> jake, due php, i prefer a global and killing all static usage :)
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20:49 < Wombert> if you even want layers, output types (html mail, text mail!), simply write a RenderEmailAction
20:50 < Wombert> it's not a violation of mvc to do that
20:50 < MrJeep> http://pastie.org/331251
20:50 < MrJeep> just please don't use the same class prefix :)
20:51 < Wombert> dunno, I'd probably make that a model that runs an action, much less hassle
20:51 < Wombert> regarding yii, that seems to be based on prado
20:51 < _cheerios> guess people are making money on this consulting thing on php field, http://www.yiisoft.com/
20:51 < saracen> Thanks MrJeep =)
20:52 < MrJeep> np
20:52 < Wombert> saracen: you know, just saying "something didn't work" doesn't help me very much...
20:53 < saracen> Wombert: I know. I was waiting for you to comment. I just thought there was the chance of you saying "I know" seeing as I've grabbed the working copy.
20:54 < saracen> RELAX NG validation with "/usr/share/php/agavi-head/src/config/rng/compile.rng" failed due to the following error:
20:54 < saracen> Line 2: Element configurations has wrong namespace: expecting http://agavi.org/agavi/config/global/envelope/1.0
20:54 < saracen> Thats the error
20:54 < Wombert> ah yeah
20:54 < Wombert> bad commit
20:54 < Wombert> thanks for spotting that man
20:55 < saracen> =)
20:55 < Wombert> gimme two ticks to fix
20:58 < _cheerios> heh, that yii orm (AR implementation) is so weak. even my left pinkie has more ooomph.
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21:51 < _cheerios> doh. well, i don't use opera, but dragging doesn't seem to work on opera2 w/mootools
21:52 < _cheerios> hmm, neither does much other js either. gah.
21:59 < krycek> opera2?
22:00 < _cheerios> typo, opera9.62 seems to be the version
22:00 < _cheerios> there's some JS errors in the console, need to check those out -- all fine in firefox. haven't checked IE yet.
22:30 < Wombert> that's because opera is a pile of crap
22:30 < Wombert> the only renderer that's remotely bearable is webkit
22:30 < Wombert> everything else... duh
22:31 < Wombert> anyway, bedtiem
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05:24 < v-dogg> huomenta
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06:41 < horros> Huomenta
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07:44 < v-dogg> huomenta digitarald 
07:44 < v-dogg> got a minute to help me with iframes and mootools?
07:45 < digitarald> Huomenta v-dogg, sure
07:47 < v-dogg> well, I need to figure out the bery basics first - can I set the content of an iframe with mootools?-)
07:48 < v-dogg> s/bery/very/
07:48 < v-dogg> I'm thinking about ADT's output here
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07:53 < digitarald> plain js: creating an iframe and injecting the basic dom (html, body, script tags)
07:53 < digitarald> mootools based: filling the iframe with content
07:53 < horros> Noooo!
07:53 < horros> No iframe!
07:54 < digitarald> shut up ;)
07:54 < horros> iframe isn't allowed as per XHTML 1.0 Strict.
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07:54 < _cheerios> huomenta
07:54 < digitarald> if its created on the fly, you will not notice :P
07:54 < horros> Why not use  instead like a proper little coder?-)
07:55 < v-dogg> I haven't got a slightest idea how to create/inject/populating elements with plain js :D
07:55 < horros> ...as it's ment for inserting any type of external object you can think of :)
07:55 < digitarald> v-dogg: u get the idea? Create iframe, inject mootools magic. MooTools creates the content on the fly, can access the parent window to get the data and to position the iframe.
07:55 < v-dogg> digitarald: yup
07:55 < v-dogg> now I just have to learn plain js :(
07:55 < digitarald> :D I can create that one for you
07:57 < horros> v-dogg: elem = document.getElementById('parent_element'); var bleh = elem.createElement('object'); doStuffTo(bleh); elemn.appendChild(bleh); 
07:57 < horros> :)
07:57 < v-dogg> I've refused to do any plain js since I started using mootools
07:57 < v-dogg> not that I've done much js ever
07:57 < horros> But plz! object > iframe :)
07:58 < horros> digitarald: ps. I *will* notice, as I tend to save the documents and upload them to validator.w3.org :P
07:58 < digitarald> horros: documents with adt output? ;)
07:58 < horros> Them too.
07:59 < horros> I try to get things right while developing :P
07:59 < digitarald> but u have to admit that object look ugly (in IE) http://aplus.rs/web-dev/insert-html-page-into-another-html-page/
08:01 < digitarald> and I'm not sure if onload events and write access work properly
08:02 < horros> Humm, I don't see anything particularly ugly on that site?
08:05 < v-dogg> http://pastebin.ca/1276699
08:05 < v-dogg> google found me this
08:06  * v-dogg pets google
08:10 < digitarald> nearly right
08:11 < _cheerios> "Dear Sir/Madam, We are India base SEO Company currently working for Sweden, Holland, Denmark, USA, UK and other clients. We bring you at the top of Google, yahoo and msn and in other search engine in short span of time with affordable price..." :D
08:11  * horros sniggers at "SEO"
08:14 < digitarald> 1sec
08:14 < digitarald> http://pastebin.ca/1276701
08:14 < digitarald> v-s
08:14 < digitarald> v-dogg : :D
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08:23 < v-dogg> ok... hmm...
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08:26 < v-dogg> do I need to output the whole toolbar html like that or is there some trick I fail to see here?
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08:33 < Wombert> huomenta
08:34 < v-dogg> huomenta
08:34 < _cheerios> bleh, chown -R doesn't work for dirs with . infront
08:34 < Wombert> chown -R .*
08:34 < Wombert> ...
08:36 < _cheerios> that'd work? cool. used find+xargs instead
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08:37 < _cheerios> army of dots
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09:06 < mach3_domke> Huomenta
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09:45 < marklar|omni> hm
09:45 < marklar|omni> stupid questions
09:45 < marklar|omni> route pattern to match anything, .e.g, "/wat/(kek:.*)"
09:45 < marklar|omni> would that work?
09:46 < marklar|omni> guise?
09:50 < Wombert> marklar|omni: uh
09:50 < Wombert> pattern=""
09:50 < Wombert> :>
09:50 < Wombert> or pattern="^/wat/"
09:50 < Wombert> not anchored at the end...
09:51 < marklar|omni> hm
09:51 < marklar|omni> but I want to name the param
09:51 < marklar|omni> e.g., the client could conceivably pass /wat/zomg,33,422
09:51 < marklar|omni> or /wat/kthx
09:51 < Wombert> .* yea
09:52 < marklar|omni> alright thanks
09:52 < marklar|omni> btw, eclipse must die
09:58 < ttj> Amen.
10:00 < bleachy> hey guys. Is there any way to set a template extension per output type? Like in output_types.xml?
10:00 < marklar|omni> meaning?
10:01 < marklar|omni> what do you mean by template extension?
10:01 < bleachy> the extension of the template filename
10:01 < Wombert> sure
10:01 < Wombert> the renderers all can do this, or you simply set it per individual layer
10:03 < bleachy> ok great. Are there any examples?
10:05 < bleachy> something like $this->egtLayer('content')->setExtension($whatever)?
10:06 < Wombert> yes
10:06 < mach3_domke> found an nice Browser Lunascape 5  
10:06 < Wombert> you can also do that in the config
10:06 < bleachy> awesome thanks
10:06 < Wombert> or default_extension param to the renderer
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10:08 < bleachy> ah right ok. in the config I just need to add the whatever to relevant  layer?
10:10 < Wombert> yup
10:10 < Wombert> setExtension() is just a __call overload for setParameter('extension')
10:13 < bleachy> yeah i worked that one out a while back when I couldn't find setTemplate anywhere :) cheers Wombert will give it a shot
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10:28 < digitarald> v-dogg: the trick is to dump the data as js and build the tables with mootools
10:32 < digitarald> so, your template contains "var $adt = {'Logs': [...], 'Queries': [...]}"
10:32 < digitarald> the iframes reads $adt and builds the html from the data
10:33 < digitarald> this way the data is only in the template and all the logic in the iframe
10:34 < mach3_domke> i have problems with my Login
10:35 < mach3_domke> i used the Sample LoginAction View etc and all Actions wich i want to protect get public function isSecure() return ture
10:35 < mach3_domke> true
10:35 < mach3_domke> but if i go on the IndexAction nothing happens
10:36 < mach3_domke> No Error no redirect to LoginAction
10:36 < mach3_domke> nothing
10:36 < mach3_domke> i think i forget something.. but i don't no what?!
10:36 < mach3_domke> Some ideas?
10:36 < nfq> E_mE: yo
10:41 < v-dogg> digitarald: yeah, I was afraid you'd say that :)
10:42 < v-dogg> because the whole rendering becomes tricky
10:42 < v-dogg> I can't just dump the data with json_encode or something and then I need to "re-render" it with mootools
10:42 < v-dogg> ... this is so much easier with FirePHP... :)
10:42 < mach3_domke> done... found the error
10:44 < digitarald> v-dogg: the solutions kinda copy how firephp works, so it's ok ;)
10:44 < digitarald> and yes, its easier :D
10:44 < digitarald> another solution would be, to just use console.log to output it :D
10:44 < digitarald> and include firebug lite for non-FF browsers
10:45 < nfq> for anyone interested in the MooTools world: http://mootools.net/blog/2008/12/04/sizzle/
10:45 < nfq> I think valerio has presented a great argument..
10:46 < digitarald> and resig-bashing is kinda fun :P
10:46 < v-dogg> yeah I read that this morning too
10:46 < v-dogg> well written and argumented
10:48 < digitarald> One Framework To Rule Them All
10:48 < digitarald> Mozzle
10:50 < nfq> hehe
10:50 < nfq> moozle it would be
10:50 < _cheerios> http://mootools.net/mootools_vs_sizzle/ sizzle comes out on top when im testing on linux-ff3
10:50 < Wombert> The Dojo Foundation and jQuery have it easy. The Dojo people can just work on their own code repositories, where everyone knows what to do and how to contribute. It’s basically the same thing for jQuery: Sizzle is copyrighted by John Resig.  He will always have a way to add/remove/modify whatever he pleases. Us outsiders, however, won’t have it as pretty. We would have to gain the approval of the Sizzle project before making change
10:50 < Wombert> that's bull
10:51 < nfq> Wombert: you think?
10:51 < nfq> I think it's pretty accurate
10:52 < nfq> but I am no dev
10:52 < Wombert> yes. it's factually wrong.
10:52 < _cheerios> ~11% fasted, just noting. i'm all moo. :)
10:52 < digitarald> _cheerios: 3.0 or 3.1?
10:52 < _cheerios> 3.0
10:52 < _cheerios> 3.0.4 to be exact
10:53 < horros> nfq: Sizzle comes out faster on Vista+FF3 too
10:53 < horros> 303 vs 317 :)
10:53 < horros> Granted, it throws an error too.
10:53 < horros> Sizzle that is.
10:53 < digitarald> for 3.1 it will not matter, uses querySelectorAll
10:55 < digitarald> Wombert: I think that he means, when we want to make a change and want it in the repo (not to make a change in our fork)
10:55 < Wombert> ah
10:55 < Wombert> I just
10:55 < Wombert> yeah digitarald 
10:55 < Wombert> I just realized the same thing
10:56 < _cheerios> digitarald, is it normal that there's problems with opera 9.62 when using mootools (dragging + selectors seemed to have some probs)? im not that worried, just checking if to put any time into debugging.
10:56 < digitarald> selectors should work fine, what happens with dragging?
10:56 < digitarald> positioning errors?
10:58 < nfq> on another subject Wombert did you hear about Honda?
10:59 < _cheerios> digitarald, nothing would happen -- just some js error within mootools no returning an object or something.
10:59 < Wombert> yea nfq 
10:59 < _cheerios> i can check further over the weekend
10:59 < Wombert> blogged it actually
10:59 < nfq> Wombert: link
10:59 < nfq> ?
10:59 < Wombert> they should shut down the old BAR shit
11:00 < Wombert> put their engines in toro rosso cars
11:00 < nfq> well, it's kinda sad
11:00 < Wombert> and win
11:00 < nfq> and I think Jenson must be kicking himself now
11:00 < Wombert> I never cared much for honda, really
11:00 < digitarald> _cheerios: check the trace?
11:00 < nfq> for not going to Williams
11:01 < _cheerios> digitarald, don't have the code here atm. but yes, will do.
11:03 < nfq> well, if whoever buys the team, can buy Ross Brawn and Nick Fry with, it would be worth the money
11:03 < Wombert> ya think?
11:03 < nfq> there is a rumour going around that they'll sell for £1 plus debt
11:03 < nfq> Ross Brawn is brilliant
11:03 < Wombert> if he is brilliant, why isn't honda winning? ;)
11:04 < nfq> well, it took a while at Ferrari, remember?
11:04 < Wombert> true
11:04 < nfq> I never liked him much but he's talented that's for sure
11:05 < nfq> Wombert: wondering if F1 will change, maybe finally some breakaway series
11:06 < Wombert> hope not
11:06 < Wombert> I want to see williams rise to uber domination again
11:06 < Wombert> kicking the manufacturer teams' butts
11:06 < nfq> that would be fun
11:07 < Wombert> yes
11:07 < nfq> or REd Bull
11:07 < Wombert> oh yes
11:07 < nfq> can you imagine Vettel, kicking the others
11:07 < Wombert> but red bull needs two racers, not two drivers
11:07 < nfq> suddenly Lewis will be wanting a Red Bull drive
11:07 < Wombert> as we know, webber drives like a surgeon, but he races like a girl
11:07 < nfq> hehe
11:07 < nfq> I think Vettel is a racer
11:07 < nfq> or could become one
11:23 < mach3_domke> i want to thank all of you who have contribute to agavi! Nice work :)
11:24 < E_mE> nfq: yo
11:25 < nfq> yo E_mE you got a few mins today?
11:25 < E_mE> sure give me 40 minutes 
11:25 < nfq> k
11:25 < E_mE> then im on lunch and ill also commit some changes at the end of lunch :)
11:25 < nfq> I gotta leave in an hour or so
11:26 < E_mE> okay give me 20 mins
11:26 < E_mE> let me just patch up what im doing :)
11:26 < nfq> sure.. no stress
11:39  * marklar|omni commits and ponders lunch
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14:03 < Wombert> mmmm
14:03 < Wombert> I'd like to drop magic_quotes_gpc support in 1.0
14:06 < _cheerios> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!1
14:10 < Wombert> fucking php morons
14:10 < Wombert> god
14:10 < Wombert> fuck these idiots
14:10 < Wombert> that's it, we're moving to python
14:10 < Wombert> I've fucking had it with php
14:10 < horros> o_O
14:10 < Macen> lol
14:11 < horros> Wombert: What's the matter now?
14:11 < Macen> why would you drop only _gpc though
14:15 < v-dogg> because python doesn't support it :)
14:15 < Wombert> god
14:16 < Wombert> motherfucking VITTUS
14:16  * Wombert stabs PHP devs
14:17 < v-dogg> we need to add vittu to trac's wiki
14:17 < Wombert> yes
14:17 < Wombert> it's really nice to swear about people who are not supposed to ever find their name next to "fuckface" in IRC logs
14:18 < Wombert> finland to the rescue
14:18 < Wombert> :]
14:18  * Wombert feels a bit better now
14:18  * Wombert hugs Suomi
14:19 < v-dogg> but now you must tell us what's the problem?
14:20 < Macen> WHATS HAPPENING 
14:20 < Macen> :|
14:21 < Macen> someone didn't send me the newsletter AGAIN 
14:21 < Wombert> oh
14:21 < Wombert> they keep changing stuff
14:21 < Wombert> and ugly bugs
14:21 < Wombert> get fixes
14:21 < Wombert> and I don't notice
14:21 < Wombert> and it's all related to useless magic_quotes_gpc crap
14:21 < Wombert> and then if you fire up the ticket
14:21 < Wombert> they don't link to the changesets
14:21 < v-dogg> something new in 5.2.7?
14:22 < Wombert> so you can't look at the source code and see what they *actually* changed
14:22 < Wombert> because you never know with those 'tards
14:22 < Macen> it says they're dropping magic_quotes support in 6.0 _cheerios 
14:22 < Macen> on php.net
14:22 < _cheerios> Macen, yes?
14:22 < Macen> yes
14:22 < Macen> :/
14:22 < _cheerios>  oh, i guess internet joke not working
14:22 < Wombert> I know that Macen 
14:22 < Wombert> and?
14:22 < Macen> no :/
14:22 < Wombert> http://trac.agavi.org/ticket/944 :<
14:24 < Macen> disable it then ??
14:24 < Wombert> god
14:24 < Wombert> http://trac.agavi.org/ticket/945
14:24  * Wombert stabs
14:24 < Wombert> disable what, Macen?
14:25 < v-dogg> php
14:26 < Macen> yeh
14:26 < Macen> can't believe they still having these troubles 
14:27 < Macen> i say forget backwards compatibility :>
14:27 < Macen> heh
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14:29 < v-dogg> I was hoping for that for php6... but no, keep all the hacks, keep the fucked up API...
14:31 < Wombert> look at python
14:31 < Wombert> they threw out old shit
14:31 < Wombert> with v3
14:31 < v-dogg> yup
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14:32 < v-dogg> just read about that today and thought... what could have been... 
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14:41 < krycek> is php faster than python for web app?
14:42 < horros> Spring Framework is starting to look good again :)
14:42 < horros> Let's port Agavi to Java!
14:42 < horros> Or .net!
14:43 < krycek> or python! :P
14:43 < horros> No!
14:43 < horros> I dislike Python :(
14:43 < krycek> and I dislike .net :(
14:43  * horros <3 Java
14:44 < horros> I can't understand why the hell they just didn't scrap all the BS and start over again with PHP 6.
14:44 < horros> I mean, nobody can say with a straight face that PHP as it is today is anywhere near coherent.
14:45 < v-dogg> exactly what I've been saying
14:45 < krycek> they are lazy
14:45 < v-dogg> let's fork PHP!
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14:51 < CIA-4> david * r3396 /branches/0.11/ (CHANGELOG src/request/AgaviWebRequest.class.php): Fixed #944: Make workaround for PHP Bug #41093 conditional
14:56 < Macen> will there be benchmarking tests done on 1.0?
14:57 < Macen> i <3 the slickspeed bit of mootools 
14:58 < liutis> anyone have working egzample of xi:include with external xml file's? i cant figure out how to make it work. adt xi:include egzample not working :(
14:59 < Wombert> liutis: you posted to the mailing list
14:59 < Wombert> I posted a reply
14:59 < liutis> yes i dont understand
14:59 < Wombert> then reply to the email
14:59 < Wombert> ...
15:00 < v-dogg> liutis: and xinclude in the adt sample works. at least here.
15:02 < liutis> v-dogg, hm hm mayby not on beta6?
15:03 < v-dogg> yes, that's what the sample uses
15:10 < liutis>  /o\  hm
15:10 < E_mE> does anyone know what the URL is to that cheap russian MP3 download site?
15:12 < horros> Wasn't it mp3.ru?
15:13 < E_mE> musicmp3.ru  <-- pretty cheap hehe
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15:36 < _cheerios> does logging work when debug=true? im trying to find out this FPF thingy cause and need some data
15:39 < _cheerios> i get no files created even with logging=true and that logging.xml copied from agavi/0.11 samples
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15:43 < Wombert> use_logging in settings.xml?
15:44 < _cheerios> yeah. *shrug* im failing somewhere, logging has been always problematic :D
15:45 < Wombert> app/log? :p
15:46 < _cheerios> i get the fpf error, but i don't get the log, what other setting is there required?
15:49 < _cheerios> hmm, now it worked x_X cache i guess *shrug*
15:51 < _cheerios> any
15:51 < _cheerios> this seems to be the cause. no idea where ive taken the example, but it must be dead wrong.
15:51 < _cheerios> Cannot open file "php://stderr", please check permissions on file or directory. // seems better
15:51 < _cheerios> the file gets written, but i also get this
15:54 < _cheerios> ah, right, that's what the default sample tries to do
15:57 < _cheerios> all good now. thanks. just outdated settings in global filters
16:00 < CIA-4> david * r3397 /branches/0.11/src/logging/ (2 files): comment with url of PHP bug ticket explaining why we use "w" and not "a" modes for stdout and stderr logger appenders, refs #751
16:12 < Macen> use write and not append for appending? 
16:12 < Macen> lols
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19:06 < _cheerios> jee
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20:05 < _cheerios> http://gojko.net/2008/12/05/photo-of-the-day-it-looks-like-youre-writing-a-framework/ :)
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20:31 < digitarald> v-dogg: what did u add to adt?
20:36 < digitarald> _cheerios: very cool
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08:44 < v-dogg> huomenta
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08:46 < _cheerios> jee
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10:02 < _cheerios> eclipse and its great "multiple problems have occurred" infinite loops :|
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12:01 < benschi> huomenta 
12:02 < benschi> The FPF is being bitchy to me :( Line 153: Entity 'laquo' not defined
12:03 < v-dogg> benschi: xml doesn't have other entities than amp, lt, gt, and friends. others are only defined in html
12:04 < v-dogg> use UTF and real chars and/or numerical entities
12:04 < benschi> umpf. Ah ha
12:04 < benschi> Oh I see
12:04 < v-dogg> eg.   for  
12:04 < benschi> so I basicly need to find the numerical utf code
12:05 < benschi> is there somewhere nice "translation" table on the net, that you know
12:05  * benschi of course can use google :)
12:06 < benschi> found one: http://webdesign.about.com/library/bl_htmlcodes.htm
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12:13 < _cheerios> i hate these svn 409 errors :(
12:14 < ttj> Haha, did the Helsingin Sanomat quiz on Finland. Got 69% right and according to HS, 70% is required for citizenship. :P
12:14 < ttj> Time to head for the border and return my passport. :P
12:15 < _cheerios> you foreigner, you!
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12:24 < _cheerios> ttj, i got 40% :)
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13:03 < ttj> _cheerios: Haha, you suck even more than me. :P
13:04 < ttj> I was already worried that I was the worst citizen of Finland. :D
13:04 < _cheerios> hehe, not quite
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20:55 < Wombert> liutis: does it work now?
20:59 < impl> :>
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21:15 < liutis> Wombert, thanx no it works
21:15 < liutis> i got basic knowlege of xml, no namespace :0
21:15 < liutis> :)
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21:16 < Wombert> liutis: you know... it would be *really* nice if you at least wrote a quick reply with "thanks, works now"...
21:17 < Wombert> I spent my time helping you, after all
21:17 < Wombert> ...
21:17 < nfq> hey Wombert 
21:17 < Wombert> hi nfq 
21:17 < Wombert> how's it going
21:17 < nfq> good
21:17 < nfq> just spent the day mocing
21:17 < nfq> moving
21:18 < nfq> using someone's open wireless at the mo
21:18 < nfq> as ours hasn't arrived yet
21:20 < liutis> Wombert, i had no time, i wasnt online
21:20 < liutis> sorr
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21:33 < Wombert> nfq: yeah I heard about that!
21:33 < Wombert> how's the new place?
21:33 < Wombert> garden now, huh?
21:33 < nfq> yeah, exactly
21:33 < nfq> lovely
21:33 < nfq> bigger and the garden is perfect for the little one
21:33 < Wombert> good for the little one
21:33 < Wombert> ya
21:33 < Wombert> :>
21:33 < nfq> how's your weekend been?
21:34 < Wombert> family lunch/tea in regensburg today
21:34 < Wombert> now off to a bar in a bit
21:34 < nfq> great.. enjoy it man, we'll speak soon.. tomorrow I guesss
21:35 < Wombert> ya
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21:51 < krycek> o/
22:05 < vlt> Hello. I'm just playing with agavi for the first time (following the tutorial). Any reason why the mtime of the php file created by `agavi model` is in the past (3 days in my case)?
22:08 < impl> wat.
22:09 < impl> I SWEAR TO GOD IF PHING HAS ANOTHER FUCKING BUG I WILL RIP IT INTO TINY PIECES AND THEN EAT THEM AND THEM VOMIT THEM UP AND THEN SERVE THEM TO HITLER'S DEAD FUCKING CORPSE FOR DESSERT
22:10 < saracen> You need to improve your ranting skills
22:10 < saracen> That was pathetic
22:10 < saracen> Theres a few flaws
22:10 < saracen> First of all, you can't eat software bugs.
22:10 < saracen> Which inturn means you can't vomit them, nor can you feed them to anybody else.
22:11 < saracen> You can't feed anything to dead people in general.
22:11 < saracen> And even if you could. It's Hitler. Why would he care?
22:12 < saracen> Also, isn't mentioning Hitler in this channel a good idea with the gang of germans and everything?
22:12 < saracen> Anyway. Get better.
22:12 < saracen> is mentioning*
22:13 < Wombert> impl/vit: does it use the template mtime?
22:13 < impl> .op
22:13 < um> impl: Error: You don't have the #agavi,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
22:13 < Wombert> nah that would be moronic
22:13 < impl> fuck you, ChanServ 
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22:14 < saracen> Get your own fucking kick messages
22:14 < impl> I invented the word cuntwagon, asshat
22:14 < saracen> Bullshit, you leeched it off of me
22:14 < impl> No, go look through your logs
22:15 < saracen> I dont need to look through my logs.
22:15 < impl> Well, you'll always just be wrong then.
22:15 < saracen> Who the fuck do you think is more likely to invent that word?
22:15 < saracen> An American, or a Brit?
22:15 < saracen> I WIN.
22:15 < impl> It doesn't matter who is more /likely/ -- I /did/.
22:16 < impl> That's like asking, "Who is more likely to supercollide a particle, the Americans or the French?"
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22:16 < impl> The Americans, obviously, but it was the FUCKING SWISS.
22:16 < saracen> No it isn't.
22:16 < impl> Speaking of the Swiss, hey nfq :D
22:16 < saracen> It's more like saying. "Who is more likely to speak french 24/7, the Americans or the French"
22:16 < nfq> hey impl 
22:16 < nfq> wassup?
22:16 < nfq> haha
22:16 < saracen> So fuck you, I invented the word.
22:17 < impl> saracen: you had better hop into that supercollider to get to the alternate universe you seem to be living in
22:17 < impl> saracen: failure.
22:17 < impl> nfq: We were just talking about CERN
22:17 < impl> :P
22:17 < nfq> ah, nice
22:17 < nfq> few hours from here
22:17  * impl is somewhat jealous
22:18 < saracen> The alternate universe I'm living in? You mean the one where Americans speak English, and the French speak French?
22:18 < impl> saracen: HAH! You just admitted that we speak YOUR language!
22:18 < impl> Owned!
22:19 < saracen> I haven't admitted anything new. I'm still saying YOU STOLE THE LANGUAGE
22:19 < saracen> INCLUDING ALL OF MY PHRASES, CUNTWAGON.
22:19 < impl> Lies, you just admitted it right there.
22:19 < impl> I saw it. Sorry.
22:19 < impl> British failure once again, just like your entire empire.
22:21 < saracen> Atleast we have an empire.
22:21 < saracen> Well, had.
22:21 < impl> Yeah, whereas we just dictate how the entire world runs.
22:22 < impl> (kthx: IMF, WTO, World Bank)
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22:23 < saracen> Haha, that's not a good thing. You're the underdogs. It's like, we were the largest empire ever, being The Power(tm) for over a century
22:23 < saracen> Then we got bored
22:23 < saracen> And dished out the jobs to the peons (America)
22:23 < impl> No, then you failed in World War II and we told you to get the fuck out of the way.
22:23 < saracen> Oh bullshit, you stepped in at the last nanosecond to get some winning points
22:23 < impl> Yeah because your air raids were going sooooo well.
22:24 < nfq> hahah.. I really shouldn't join this fun discussion
22:24 < saracen> Fuck you, we were short on men and supplies, no thanks to you
22:24 < impl> And let's not forget who developed the technology that actually ended the war. Oh yeah, that was us.
22:25 < saracen> You're like the fans at a football match that run on to the field at the end, as if _you've_ made some sort of accomplishment
22:25 < impl> Boom boom, bitch!
22:25 < saracen> "Oh yeah, that was us."
22:25 < nfq> impl: that's not actually accurate.. but I said I wasn't going to get involved.. I stop
22:25 < saracen> US.
22:25 < saracen> 22:24:36 < impl> And let's not forget who developed the technology that actually ended the war.
22:25 < saracen> You didn't develop football
22:25 < nfq> saracen: I think impl's taking the piss
22:26  * impl grins
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22:28 < nfq> I wonder what history will say about the chineses whipping the US's ass
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22:28 < nfq> wahahaha
22:28 < impl> god: No, it's done, go away.
22:28 < nfq> haha
22:28 < god> impl: :(
22:28 < god> I wanted to watch
22:29 < saracen> Well, it's over man.
22:29 < saracen> It's just over.
22:29 < god> saracen: you're a cuntwagon
22:29 < impl> nfq: We were both just fucking with each other, none of that discussion was serious :P
22:29 < god> you know that?
22:29 < impl> nfq: It started over which one of us came up with the word "cuntwagon" to begin with
22:29 < saracen> god: Know it like I know i invented it
22:29 < nfq> haha
22:30 < god> saracen: that was invented in America
22:30 < nfq> but of course
22:30 < god> not in London
22:30 < impl> god: No, it's done, damn it.
22:30 < impl> Out! Shoo!
22:30 < saracen> The only thing that was invented by America was the large door.
22:30 < saracen> For all you fat fucks
22:31 < impl> Don't I weigh less than you?
22:31 < saracen> Yeah, I'm over weight. But thats because American foot was bought over
22:31 < saracen> anyway, bbl
22:31 < god> impl: good humour weighs a lot.
22:31 < impl> ZING~
22:32 < saracen> lawlalwlswl
22:32 < god> do you get the pun? Americans eat good humour ice cream. British people have good humour
22:32 < god> I'm glad it needed explaining
22:32 < impl> god: Go troll #php some more, leave #agavi in peace :<
22:33 < impl> saracen is bad enough
22:33 < saracen> uh-huh.
22:33 < god> I'll just idle here
22:33  * impl sighs
22:33 < saracen> no you wont'
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22:34 < impl> So, glad we've cleared that up!
22:34 < saracen> fatty.
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07:37 < v-dogg> huomenta
10:01 < marklar|omni> MikeSeth: ping
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10:15 < alenoosh> huomenta
10:17 < alenoosh> Is there any standard for the position of css files in agavi ? in a sample available on the internet , the default.css file is placed in a directory called public that is located in app directory , 
10:19 < alenoosh> when I put the default.css there , it works but when I put that in just pub directory not the in its public subdirectory , it does not work ... , why is that ? Is there any default setting ?
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10:33 < LBO_> huomenta
10:35 < LBO_> Is it intentional that agavi build script can parse only one --define   option?
10:35 < LBO_> I'm using 1.0.0beta6
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10:46 < _cheerios> huomenta
10:47 < LBO_> huomenta cheerios :)
10:47 < LBO_> are u involved in agavis build script?
11:01 < _cheerios> lo LBO_. nope.
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11:50 < _cheerios> heh @ radio story on bulgarian police stopping you. Guy gets pulled over, didn't have his driver's licence, and was in a hurry to move on. He asks for another solution, a bigger fee if need be, to just get moving instead of needing to head to the precint. The police looks at him for a bit, open the squad door window, and says; "throw 20 bucks there, and it'll be settled". Guy pays, and the cop never looked back. :)
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12:36 < marklar|omni> MikeSeth: ping
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13:08 < marklar|omni> http://search.cpan.org/dist/Acme-Monkey/
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14:01 < marklar|omni> MikeSeth: poek
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14:41 < saracen> Warning: array_keys() [function.array-keys]: The first argument should be an array in /usr/share/php/agavi-head/src/validator/AgaviValidator.class.php on line 748
14:42 < saracen> nm, realised what I had done
14:50 < marklar|omni> sorry, agavi does not yet support telepathic source adjustment
14:50 < marklar|omni> maybe in 1.1
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14:55 < Wombert> saracen: how did that happen
14:56 < Wombert> saracen: reproduce case plz kthx
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14:57 < bobbytek2> huomenta
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15:13 < benschi_> Yeah newest libxml and libxslt working under Leopard >D
15:13 < benschi_> no more Agavi Warnings about bag libxml versions
15:13 < benschi_> hurrrray!
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15:33 < benschi_> Fatal error: Call to a member function isSimple() on a non-object in cache/config/_Users_benjamin_workspace_sla_literaturdatenbank_app_config_compile.xml_production_.php on line 1033
15:34 < benschi_> what the heck? It works when the environment is set to development!
15:36 < benschi_> HELP!
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16:09 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: oh hai
16:10 < benschi_> Hi MikeSeth, could you give me some advise?
16:12 < benschi_> I'm asking myself now for quite a while, how I can fill 
12:47 < Macen> 
12:47 < Macen> do i need an executeWrite or something?
12:48 < v-dogg> read the error message
12:48 < v-dogg> Line 31: ID navEnds already defined
12:49 < Macen> yes
12:49 < v-dogg> our output needs to be valid xml
12:49 < v-dogg> and really XML, not xhtml
12:50 < v-dogg> bah. s/our/your/
12:51 < Macen> what output?
12:51 < Macen> the template?
12:51 < Macen> where does it get "navEnds" from?
12:51 < v-dogg> the page
12:51 < v-dogg> from your code
12:52 < Macen> oh i see
12:52 < Macen> that would make sense 
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13:51 < MrJeep> what
13:51 < MrJeep> 1.0 b-6 validates id ?
13:52 < MrJeep> fpf
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13:53 < v-dogg> ?
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13:55 < Macen> yes it does
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13:56 < v-dogg> FPF validates the XML (implicitly when it parses it)
13:57 < v-dogg> and IDs must be unique
13:57 < v-dogg> but it has always worked like this
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13:59 < Malek__> agavi not a default routing callback?
13:59 < v-dogg> what?
14:05 < MrJeep> v-dogg:  :-O
14:06 < v-dogg> what?
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14:11 < Malek__> whether in agavi nonexistence default  routing callback like zend framework
14:12 < Malek__> sample : /{module_name}/{action_name}/{params}   
14:13 < Malek__> {params} like /id/5/username/jan
14:20 < saracen> Malek__: No.
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14:42 < mach3_domke> Huomenta
14:43 < mach3_domke> How/where can i change the default Language?!
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14:46 < MerlinDMC> config/translations.xml default_locale="en_US" ?
14:47 < mach3_domke> i change it there but nothing happens! Thats why i have to ask
14:47 < mach3_domke> 
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14:50 < E_mE> can i setup sub folders views?
14:50 < E_mE> so for example, ive got Subscriptions, which contains 4 seprate paths
14:50 < E_mE> and want each path to have its own directory so it looks structurally neater
14:50 < E_mE> where as now there are about 15+ views in there
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14:55 < Xylakant> E_mE are you using 0.11 or 1.0?
14:56 < E_mE> 1.0
14:57 < E_mE> well in theroy i use both, but for this im using 1.0
14:58 < Macen> so anyway
15:00 < Macen> how would you go about appending an additional slot/layer to $inner? IE if i have several different templates and wanted to include the same template at the bottom of these
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15:02 < saracen> Macen: add the slot to the layer 'content', rather than decorator
15:03 < v-dogg> $this->getLayer('content')->setSlot('name', $this->createSlotContainer(...
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15:26 < Xylakant_> E_mE: in 1.0 you can use a free directory layout for actions/views etc, that should help you do what you intend
15:26 < Xylakant_> there's a ticket describing how it works
15:26 < E_mE> ah ill hunt it down Xylakant_  thanx :)
15:26 < E_mE> thats all i needed to know
15:30 < Xylakant_> E_mE: 668
15:31 < Xylakant_> see the comments for a detailed description
15:31 < E_mE> ah you star :D ::Lets Xylakant_ use E_mE#s new macbook for 5 minutes ;) ::
15:31 < Xylakant_> be aware that the current build system does not support that yet
15:31 < Xylakant_> you'll have to move the files yourself
15:31 < E_mE> ah ok
15:32 < Xylakant_> I'll get a new MBP soon I hope :)
15:32 < Xylakant_> but thanks ;)
15:35 < Macen> wouldn't being able to generate validate.xml automatically be nice..
15:35 < E_mE> Macen: write a script to set one up ;)
15:35 < Macen> hmhmhm
15:36 < Macen> i feel a new focus coming on...
15:37 < v-dogg> 1.0's build system creates MyAction.xml validation config stubb
15:37 < v-dogg> and, like with any code templates, you can replace the default template with your own
15:38 < E_mE> v-dogg: might be an idea to use Cocoa API to write a app to build full validator configs ;) hehe
15:39 < E_mE> or Qt maybe
15:39 < Macen> mmm
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15:39 < Macen> i mean so it would fill in the parameters as well v-dogg
15:39 < Macen> i'm using the 1.0 build system 
15:40 < Macen> MikeSeth and _cheerios were talking of something similar in 2007...i've been reading the logs...
15:41 < Macen> called "Cocaine" 
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15:41 < Xylakant_> sounds sooo much like mike
15:41 < v-dogg> heh
15:42 < Macen> a run-once script wouldn't be hard to implement 
15:42 < Macen> as long as you know the source input syntax
15:43 < E_mE> build it from routing.xml
15:43 < E_mE> sample the REGEX from the pattern=""
15:43 < Macen> i'm thinking about "hooking up" MooTools formcheck class validation syntax
15:44 < Macen> output the form, optionally build validate.xml, submit to validate.xml's route 
15:47 < Macen> would save soooo much time
15:47 < Macen> i already have the tools to then stitch together SQL for insert into db ;)
15:47 < Macen> just means you have to remember to name everything the same everywhere....
15:47 < v-dogg> I do to - Propel
15:48 < v-dogg> too
15:48 < v-dogg> but building a _generic_ tool to create validate.xml from your php templates, smarty templates, routes and what not... 
15:49 < v-dogg> I warmly welcome anyone to try :)
15:50 < Macen> the key word is generic 
15:50 < Macen> would become a mess very easily.. 
15:51 < Macen> and form layouts would soon become an "advanced" feature 
15:51 < v-dogg> that key word makes it very _very_ __very__ difficult to do (well)
15:51 < v-dogg> but I'm off ->
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17:55 < nfq> yo E_mE 
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19:51 < MrJeep> is there another way to say taht something is new
19:51 < MrJeep> like a new product or whatever
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20:50 < v-dogg> MrJeep: umwat?
20:51 < MrJeep> well.... I have to add a field in a table which mean that this product (is a product table obviously) is new
20:52 < MrJeep>  I'm looking for a word which means 'this is new' but not the word 'new' since its a reserved word
20:53 < v-dogg> isNew
20:54 < v-dogg> is/has prefix for boolean fields/columns is always nice
20:55 < MrJeep> even with propel ?
20:55 < MrJeep> getIsNew ?
20:55 < MrJeep> (right now I have 'is_new')
20:55 < MrJeep> but I was wondering if a better word was usually used
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21:07 < _cheerios> using an orm, it can be is_new in the background, where as in code it's $model->new
21:10 < horros> Except you can't use "new" with propel
21:10 < horros> Actually, you probably can, as it'd generate setNew and getNew
21:10 < horros> whereas it uses isNew() by itself.
21:11 < horros> So disregard me.
21:11 < horros> ->
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21:20 < _cheerios> naturally if you're using an orm it's the one i made, that hasn't been released yet and is so far off into the future the meteor's might strike Earth sooner
21:20 < _cheerios> and not some... propel
21:35 < horros> Naturally.
21:45 < MrJeep> oh
21:45 < MrJeep> is it recommended to create "controls" for pieces of core that are repeated a lot on a site
21:45 < MrJeep> example :a product thumbnail with a few buttons under it
21:47 < MrJeep> this thumb is kinda displayed on a lot of pages
21:49 < _cheerios> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_repeat_yourself
21:51 < MrJeep> good article
21:51 < MrJeep> but the point is about creating controls vs other possibility
21:53 < MrJeep> I'm using agavi renderer classes to render a control to the view
21:53 < MrJeep> but I'm wondering if a better way exists
21:55 < MrJeep> anyway
21:55 < MrJeep> i have to goà
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22:30 < _cheerios> hmm http://www.myspace.com/rotfrontberlin
22:37 < _cheerios> dilbert <3 "Our strategy has never worked in anything we've done. That gives us the opportunity of surpise. Lets get to work!"
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23:56 < MrJeep_> just updated to the latest agavi
23:56 < MrJeep_> good job :)
23:56 < MrJeep_> comments are great in the settings
23:58 < bobbytek2> huomenta :)
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00:23 < MrJeep_> hum
00:23 < MrJeep_> where do I specify the custom templates I wish to use
00:23 < MrJeep_> ?
00:33 < MrJeep_> on another subject
00:33 < MrJeep_> what's the HtmlTidy filter ?
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03:06 < bobbytek2> v-dogg: What's cracker lacking?
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05:24 < MugeSo> huomenta
05:36 < v-dogg> huomenta
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07:17 < v-dogg> bobbytek2: ?
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08:35 < horros> Huomenta.
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09:07 < _cheerios> huomenta
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10:41 < Macen> can i get an example of validate.xml with the ways in which data can be validated pls
10:41 < Macen> 1.0b6 if it makes a difference
10:42 < v-dogg> http://trac.agavi.org/browser/tags/1.0.0beta6/samples/app/modules/Default/validate
10:44 < Macen> yeah i have those 
10:45 < Macen> i want to know what parameters are available and so on
10:45 < Macen> duh
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11:18 < Macen> v-dogg: i can't find the source code for the parameters in validate.xml?
11:20 < Macen> in AgaviValidator.class.php i can see there are some options in the class comments
11:20 < saracen> Macen: Each validator has it's own class
11:21 < saracen> With a comments section at the top of the file, documenting the parameters
11:21 < saracen> http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/1.0/src/validator/AgaviNumberValidator.class.php
11:21 < saracen> The number validator, for example
11:21 < Macen> ya i saw there was an email class
11:21 < saracen> The others can be found here: http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/1.0/src/validator/
11:22  * Macen looks
11:23  * Macen thinks
11:24 < Macen> i see
11:24 < Macen> thanks
11:27 < v-dogg> you don't seem to do any source browsing before your ambiguous questions and "duh" comments
11:27 < Macen> .......
11:27 < v-dogg> and that's pretty fucking annoying
11:27 < Macen> how the fuck would i know to go there
11:27 < Macen> i have the sample app open and it doesn't give any clues as to what parses it etc
11:28 < v-dogg> yeah, with cryptic directory names like "validator"
11:28 < Macen> 'cause i love waiting for answers 
11:28 < Macen> that's why i ask them
11:30 < Macen> um, before *that*, i was about to ask what about multiple validation fields
11:30 < Macen> eg. same field multiple validators 
11:31 < Macen> do you include multiple  's or can you nest them?
11:33 < Macen> also the required="false"on a validator, how is this to be interpreted? meaning "if the value isn't supplied, don't bother validating it" or "if the value isn't supplied and required is true throw an error"...
11:36 < horros> *   'required'   if true the validator will fail when the input parameter is not set
11:38 < horros> As for your previous question
11:38 < horros> http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/1.0/src/validator/AgaviAndoperatorValidator.class.php  http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/1.0/src/validator/AgaviNotoperatorValidator.class.php   http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/1.0/src/validator/AgaviOroperatorValidator.class.php   http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/1.0/src/validator/AgaviXoroperatorValidator.class.php
11:39 < Macen> where did you get that * required line from?
11:39 < Macen> search shows
11:39 < Macen> No matches found. 
11:40 < saracen> Tracs search feature doesn't search code. I hate that about it, but the directory structure of agavi is well laid out
11:40 < saracen> You can usually find what you want, I would imagine that line came from the AgaviValidator class
11:40 < horros> saracen: Correct, sir.
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13:32 < bobbytek2> huomenta
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14:04 < Macen> i have to say, not having to worry about form population is quite lovely 
14:05 < Macen> makes the generation of them a lot easier 
14:28 < bobbytek2> it seems quite slow for me
14:28 < bobbytek2> for a simple form
14:28 < bobbytek2> Are there any performance benchmarks of using FPF vs. not?
14:31 < _cheerios> my impeccable logic tells me; not using == faster, using == slower.
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14:34 < v-dogg> haha :D
14:34 < v-dogg> my car is like that too - if I don't drive with it consumes NO FUEL! :p
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14:49 < Strzalek> huomenta
14:57 < tc77> hi
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15:06 < MrJeep> good morning
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15:07 < Strzalek> 4 PM in here. Dark outside ;)
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15:32 < MrJeep> arg
15:32 < MrJeep> anyone knows a good .eml (email file) parser for php?
15:34 < Strzalek> Huh :/
15:34 < Strzalek> Try to fight with tests
15:34 < Strzalek> Tests 1:0 me
15:34 < Strzalek> Do they works? (beta6)
15:34 < horros> Works for me just fine.
15:35 < horros> WITH A BASEBALL BAT HIS CLEANING OUR STREETS, HE'S CLEANING OUR STREETS TONIGHT!
15:35  * horros plays the air guitar
15:37 < Strzalek> PHPUnit @package_version@ by Sebastian Bergmann. E Time: 0 seconds There was 1 error: 1) testNull(PriceFinderModelTest) RuntimeException: /Users/strzalek/Sites/projects/tts/tests/run-tests.php:21 FAILURES! Tests: 1, Assertions: 0, Errors: 1.
15:38 < Strzalek> what's worng with this?
15:38 < horros> A tad hard to say, I forgot to take the potion that gives me psychic abilities ;P
15:39 < Strzalek> Hmm?
15:40 < horros> It's obviously throwning an exception in AgaviTesting::dispatch()
15:40 < horros> for some reason.
15:43 < Strzalek> Hmm, should I run "run-test.php" form browser or terminal? Does it metters?
15:45 < horros> From the termina.
15:45 < horros> l
15:45 < Strzalek> Yeah, from terminal - no exceptions
15:45 < Strzalek> simply php -f run-tests.php or agavi has some task?
15:45 < horros> The former.
15:46 < horros> That's how I ran them until I wrote my own phing task to do it.
15:46 < Strzalek> the former?
15:46 < horros> Which reminds me, I should probably contribute that once that agaviforge thing is up and running.
15:46 < horros> Yes, php -f run-tests.php is correct.
15:47 < Strzalek> Ahhh right - AgaviForge - when it will be public?
15:47 < Strzalek> Some dates?
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15:49 < horros> No idea.
15:50 < Strzalek> Hmm strange. Tests form PriceFinderModelTest.php from SampleApp fails
15:50 < Strzalek> I'm still doing sth wrong
15:51 < horros> hmm.
15:51 < horros> You have set up the testing environment to include everything you need?
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15:52 < horros> I've not even tried the tests from the sample app, I just started writing my own tests.
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16:03 < MrJeep> how hates snow ?
16:04 < horros> You seem to be missing a few words in your sentence.
16:05 < MrJeep> wow
16:05 < MrJeep> that was awesome
16:05 < MrJeep> how can I write that bad
16:06 < MrJeep> I must have been thinking of something completly different
16:06 < MrJeep> anyway
16:06 < MrJeep> does anyone hate snow ?
16:06 < MrJeep> I think I will : http://messages.palringo.com/?t=i&a=2008&b=12&c=12&d=962&e=303546&f=3241966581865770578.jpeg
16:06 < horros> Nope.
16:06 < horros> I love it.
16:07 < horros> Looks pretty much like it does around here.
16:07 < MrJeep> we're getting 5-10 mm of icy rain
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16:11 < horros> Off to the boozer. Catch you later.
16:11  * horros &
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16:24 < CIA-12> felix * r3429 /branches/0.11/ (CHANGELOG src/database/AgaviPropelDatabase.class.php): 
16:24 < CIA-12> - Add option to control Propel 1.3 instance pooling
16:24 < CIA-12> - closes #960
16:28 < CIA-12> david * r3430 /branches/1.0/ (CHANGELOG src/database/AgaviPropelDatabase.class.php): merge [3420:3429/branches/0.11]
16:35 < Macen> anybody know how to make DOMDocument output with OMITTAG NO set?
16:36 < Macen> it's outputting  without the /
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17:20 < Macen> bah...that is braking FPF also...
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17:51 < Macen> good old preg_replace ehy...thank god for caching...
17:51 < Macen> see you all
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21:02 < aka> yo should a model use another model?  For instance say you have a model that handles adding users.  If you had another model did migrations that would pull user info from some source and then add it to the system
21:03 < aka> yes right?
21:03 < aka> riiight!
21:03 < aka> :D
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22:17 < E_mE`> woooooop i got me new macbook :D
22:17 < E_mE`> this machine is so damn slick!
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22:47 < benschi> Wombert: I noticed some errors in the phpdoc blocks of various file eg. response
22:48 < benschi> I would volunteer for checking all files, but I'm not always sure how to descibe things right
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23:20 < CIA-12> felix * r3431 /branches/1.0/test/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
23:20 < CIA-12> Adds some more tests for the WebRequestDataHolder
23:20 < CIA-12> -refs #955
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23:46 < Wombert> impl: HEEEELP
23:46 < impl> Wombert: Dude no
23:46 < impl> three pages left
23:46 < Wombert> uh
23:46 < Wombert> okay
23:46 < impl> no thinking until I'm done
23:46 < impl> :<
23:46 < E_mE`> Wombert: guess what ;)
23:46 < Wombert> when you're back, email me the answer to "what is the word when I get a zombie back from the dead"
23:47 < Wombert> E_mE`: wat
23:47 < Wombert> :>
23:47 < impl> Wombert: wut
23:47 < E_mE`> im using my new Macbook Alo baby
23:47 < impl> zombies are undead
23:47 < Wombert> 	protected function resurrectZombieForRow(DOMElement $row)
23:47 < impl> you can't get them back
23:47 < E_mE`> ;D
23:47 < Wombert> is that good?
23:47 < Wombert> :>
23:47 < impl> ?!
23:47 < impl> wtf are you doing
23:48 < Wombert> 		throw new Exception('No Zombie wanted to be resurrected using this row.');
23:48 < Wombert> :>
23:48 < E_mE`> its the bomb man... its so good to use OSX ... so much to play with and so intuitive!! wwwwwooooooop!!
23:48 < Wombert> I'm building a very neat system for a client :)
23:48 < impl> well, resurrect is fine, but you're still weird
23:48 < Wombert> E_mE`: yup aces, congrats!
23:48 < E_mE`> thanks :)
23:48 < Wombert> impl: oh, it's for a bit of lulz
23:49 < E_mE`> multitouch hot-cakeness :D
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00:07 < Wombert> bai
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00:07 < Wombert> sorry benschi, ttyl
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00:08 < _cheerios> IM ON THE INTERWEBS!
00:09 < _cheerios> downloading conference videos on a saturday, 2am.
00:18 < E_mE`> impl: whats this zombie stuff about?
00:19 < impl> E_mE`: it's for a client, nothing going into Agavi core *g*
00:19 < E_mE`> hehe ... i got pastie url for some reason hehe
00:20 < impl> he's weird like that, I guess :D
00:22 < E_mE`> :) hehe
00:37 < nfq> yeah, he's doing some cool Excel conversion thing
00:37 < nfq> sounds awesome actually
00:58 < _cheerios> environment="excel"? :)
01:02 < _cheerios> cool, new version of Smarty in the works
01:04 < _cheerios> http://smarty-php.googlecode.com/svn/branches/Smarty3Alpha/README
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01:10 < _cheerios> neighbours fighting. been a while. o_O
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01:44 < _cheerios> bitten by the work-on-your-own-framework bug again, have to get a working demo tomorrow for some stuff... must must must !
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06:27 < a|K|a> sup niggas
06:27 < a|K|a> err
06:27 < a|K|a> sup guys
06:27 < a|K|a> sorry
06:27 < a|K|a> just came from efnet #php
06:54 < impl> haha
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10:43 < _cheerios> hhhhhhhhhhuomenta!
10:47 < Macen> hallo cheerios!!
10:47 < v-dogg> huomenta
10:47 < Macen> i thought we were being burgled then :/
10:47 < Macen> but it was the postman :>
10:48 < Macen> sodding glass in doors...
10:48 < Macen> who thought of that.....
10:49 < Macen> i suspect he wondered what i was doing...
10:49 < Macen> hehj
10:59 < Macen> ..usually he would just bring it inside, today door is locked 
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11:16 < minima3> Huomenta
11:16 < minima3> i got a question ...
11:17 < impl> Hello, there
11:17 < minima3> if i submit a form i got an Agavi Parse Exeption ...
11:18 < impl> Yar, what's ze message?
11:18 < minima3> cause i have some html-coded Letters in there
11:18 < impl> ah, entities?
11:18 < impl> &foo;
11:18 < impl> ?
11:18 < minima3> yes
11:18 < minima3> but i need these codes
11:18 < impl> Yeah... hold on, you need to set a switch in FPF for that or use &#xxxx; instead
11:19 < minima3> what means "&#xxx;" ???
11:19 < v-dogg> or replace entities with real characters
11:20 < impl> like, instead of using the entities you have to use whatever charset number represents that entity
11:20 < Macen> http://paste2.org/p/115302 << 1.0b6...what's wrong with this...
11:20 < minima3> oh .. ok, i have to look ....
11:20 < impl> v-dogg: do you know what the switch is to make FPF behave?
11:20 < v-dogg> Macen: ae namespace for parameters
11:20 < impl> is it dom_substitute_entities?
11:21 < v-dogg> no, I use numerical entities
11:21 < minima3> do you have an example for the other case? Teh switch-Case?
11:21 < impl> minima3: I can't remember how to do it :( FPF is really complicated
11:22 < v-dogg> Macen: and duplicated  (one implicit, one explicit) might be a problem too
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11:23 < minima3> *smile* no
11:23 < minima3> i have to try
11:23 < v-dogg> minima3: dom_substitute_entities => true should do the trick
11:23 < v-dogg> in global_filters.xml
11:24 < v-dogg> true it's a parameter to the FPF filter
11:24 < impl> formpopulationfilter
11:24 < minima3> with this "true" i can use the normal html-codes?
11:25 < v-dogg> probably
11:25 < minima3> i will try ...
11:25 < Macen> hmm..
11:25 < minima3> the numbered-base html-code are working fine
11:25 < v-dogg> but if you use UTF-8 you really don't need any entities other than   for  
11:25 < Macen> i took this from the docs...not sure what i need to do to get it working 
11:26 < Macen> v-dogg: which params need ae namespace? i tried it on a few..
11:26 < v-dogg> 
11:26 < Macen> ya just those as well
11:26 < Macen> one sec
11:26 < impl> I don't think you can do 
11:26 < v-dogg> yeah, me neither
11:27 < impl> my shit originally supported that but Wombert was like "no that's homosexual"
11:27 < impl> and made me take it out
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11:29 < Macen> ah
11:32 < Macen> i have: http://paste2.org/p/115305 posted via $ro->gen(null)...what else to do to get it throwing errors if the condition is not met?
11:33 < _cheerios> test-driving Yii. This thing does seem to be the fastest php framework so far.
11:33 < impl> severity="error" on the validator
11:33 < _cheerios> did anyone here ever use Prado?
11:35 < impl> _cheerios: Yii looks like a disorganized disaster of a framework
11:35 < _cheerios> impl, just testing it. I'm not saying I would use it :)
11:36 < impl> _cheerios: oh, I'm just saying
11:36 < impl> it's my highly-opinionated opinion ;p
11:37 < Macen> how to make the Error View render to the Success view, where the original form is?
11:37 < _cheerios> doesn't take too long to form such an opinion after looking under the hood!
11:37 < Macen> or template maybe i mean..
11:37 < Macen> but the form is generated in the view...hmm..
11:38 < Macen> Could not find file for View "CommentsError" in module "Public"		
11:38 < impl> Macen: you have to set the template on the layer
11:40 < impl> $this->getLayer('content')->setTemplate('CommentsInput')
11:40 < impl> in your executeHtml()
11:40 < impl> should do the trick
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11:41 < impl> mmm
11:42 < impl> sunrise
11:42 < impl> I'm going to try to get pictures, brb.
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11:50 < Macen> it would appear the validator assumed the label's for is going to be the same as the name field 
11:51 < Macen> where the for would be the id of the field, not the name
11:56 < Macen> how to make it insert the error message as well as change the class? nothing is appearing
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12:07 < Macen> $this->getAttribute('error') outputs null in the Error view
12:08 < Macen> but the class does change..
12:10 < Macen> hmm.. $this->container->getValidationManager()->getError('address') works
12:10 < Macen> so how is the sample app getting it to output the errors automagically 
12:13 < v-dogg> FPF outputs them
12:13 < v-dogg> see global_filters.xml
12:15 < v-dogg> you can also output them manually. if($container->getValidationManager()->hasErrors()): foreach($container->getValidationManager()->getErrorMessages() as $error): echo $error['message']; 
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12:38 < Macen> "more bulletproof" 
12:38 < Macen> lolk
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12:53 < Macen> when returning an error from the validator, can we over-ride the passing over to the Error View from inside the action?
12:54 < Macen> IE, instead of passing to the Error view go to the Input view
12:55 < _cheerios> there's the default handleError() method
12:58 < Macen> i suppose i could put the code in the base view and access it that way from the Error view
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13:10 < Macen> ah wait, nop, that works good
13:10  * Macen testing 
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15:29 < _cheerios> a pizza and two batteries. yeah. that's more computer time <3
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15:40 < E_mE_> huomenta
16:17 < a|K|a> homoento!
16:17 < a|K|a> err huomenta
16:17 < a|K|a> damn freenode lets the topic be huge
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16:42 < _cheerios> burp
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17:44 < benschi> ping horros 
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17:45 < benschi> hey U said, Netbeans could resolve $this->getModel("Test")...
17:45 < benschi> how did u manage that? Netbeans for me is not able to do this
17:46 < v-dogg> I don't think he said that
17:49 < v-dogg> in eclipse you can use $myModel = $ctx->getModel('Foo'); /* @var $myModel FooModel */
17:57 < graste> will be hopefully available in netbeans > 6.5 as well
17:57 < graste> at least according to these two comments: http://blogs.sun.com/netbeansphp/entry/code_completion_for_a_class#comment-1227739588000
17:58 < graste> hm, symfony support...
17:58 < graste> we should create a netbeans plugin for agavi support
17:59 < graste> any feature suggestions? ^^
17:59 < horros> graste: I've been meaning to.
18:00 < graste> :)
18:01 < graste> unfortunately netbeans doesn't let me use my keyboard in its editor window all the time - bug exists for over a year now...grml
18:01 < graste> i don't switch to windows just for netbeans =)
18:02 < graste> so you thought about starting an agavi plugin for netbeans?
18:15 < horros> I did, yes.
18:16 < graste> i thought about that, too (for 2minutes a few days ago) :P
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18:17 < graste> any concrete plans?
18:21 < horros> I've spent about as much time :)
18:21 < graste> hehe
18:22 < graste> well some sort of feature list would probably help (me) to determine if it makes any sense to start reading about netbeans platform <:
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09:20 < v-dogg> huomenta
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10:33 < horros> Huomenta.
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10:35 < _cheerios> huomenta
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11:56 < _cheerios> facebook *g* Relationship Status: Married ... Looking For: Friendship, Dating
12:06 < _cheerios> http://www.myspace.com/rotfrontberlin NA NAAA NAA NA NA NA NAA NA!
12:12 < ttj> Well, one guy I know had his Looking For: set to Relationship. Of course his fiancee showed up, and just commented something along the lines of "Mikko-darling, you ain't looking for a relationship 'cause you already have a perfect one..."
12:15 < _cheerios> heh, @ Santa's helpers reading some of the letters sent, "attached excel sheet from Britain had 427 rows of gift requests worth around 66,500e". The helpers are unsure which kids have longer wishlists, the finns or the brits.
12:16 < _cheerios> ttj :)
12:17 < ttj> "All I want for Christmas is [a young Audrey Hepburn]"
12:17 < ttj> But Riikka got me an Audrey Hepburn calendar as a present. <3
12:22 < _cheerios> that [young] addition is probably a good point *g*
12:24 < ttj> Well, officially the song would've had "you" there, but let's be honest, I don't really want you for Christmas. No offense. :P
12:25 < _cheerios> heh
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13:02 < _cheerios> ooooOooooo she's seen my body
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14:08 < marklar|omni> ugh goddamn
14:08 < marklar|omni> I hate sundays
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14:23 < CIA-12> felix * r3432 /branches/1.0/test/tests/unit/request/AgaviWebRequestDataHolderTest.php: 
14:23 < CIA-12> adds some more tests for #955
14:23 < CIA-12> - covers all of the get/setCookie methods
14:23 < CIA-12> - covers all of the get/setParameter methods
14:23 < CIA-12> - refs #955
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15:13 < E_mE_> Wombert: do you have to hand the URL for install PHP by source on leapold?
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15:23 < Wombert> E_mE_: use macports
15:24 < E_mE_> ok
15:24 < Wombert> www.macports.org download that, set up the path, then "sudo port install php5 +apache2 +fastcgi +tidy +..." (port variants php5 shows a list)
15:25 < Wombert> then use "lipo" to slim leopard's apache2 binary down to 32 bit
15:25 < Wombert> (tutorials on the web)
15:25 < Wombert> then edit httpd.conf and add macport's libphp5.so
15:25 < Wombert> gtg, sorry mate
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15:39 < _cheerios> went shopping, and, so many nice things in one place \o/
15:49 < _a|K|a> where?
15:54 < _cheerios> vanha @ helsinki
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16:02 < _cheerios> horros, dead by gun, thumbs up/down?
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16:38 < macen_> anybody got a favourite web site content check monitoring service?
16:38 < macen_> to check content of a page incase it changes or becomes unavailable?
16:39 < macen_> currently use host-tracker.com but their prices for content checking seem a little pricey 
16:41 < macen_> $300 for 20 URL's per year at 10minute intervals 
16:44 < macen_> brb
16:44 < _a|K|a> for swede of the year... not jsut #php swede
16:46 < _a|K|a> whoops wrong channel
16:46 < _a|K|a> :\
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16:50 < _cheerios> heh, i thought you gave macen "swede of the year" award *g*
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17:33 < _cheerios> najs, finland won sweden in floorball world cup final (sweden has been the reigning champion for like ever).
17:37 < CIA-12> felix * r3433 /branches/1.0/test/tests/unit/request/AgaviWebRequestDataHolderTest.php: 
17:37 < CIA-12> adds some more testcases for the webrequestdataholder
17:37 < CIA-12> - refs #955
17:47 < CIA-12> felix * r3434 /branches/1.0/test/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 
17:47 < CIA-12> splitting the AgaviWebRequestDataHolderTests in separate files
17:47 < CIA-12> - refs #955
18:15 < _cheerios> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_misconceptions
18:18 < _cheerios> heh "The German crowd witnessing John F. Kennedy's speech in Berlin in 1963 did not mistake Ich bin ein Berliner to mean "I am a jelly doughnut."[10] It is an incorrect American notion that he should have said "Ich bin Berliner" rather than "Ich bin ein Berliner". Different areas of Germany refer to a jelly doughnut as a Berliner."
18:19 < macen_> if you like that, check out "QI" on BBC iPlayer
18:20 < macen_> tis quality :)
18:20 < macen_> every time someone mentions a common misconception they play really loud horns and flash the misconception on the screen
18:21 < macen_> basically the guy who is the host may as well rename himself as "Google"
18:21 < macen_> its just him and his "facts" heh
18:22 < _cheerios> ta for the tip, sounds like worth watching given free time!
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18:36 < _cheerios> "__toString() must return a string value" dammit. Could do ace stuff, if this wasn't so strict :|
18:41 < _cheerios> fs. if it just weren't so. things seemed so perfect for a few minutes.
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21:39 < _cheerios> segmentation faults while trying all means possible probably means this isn't possible :)
21:42 < CIA-12> felix * r3435 /branches/1.0/src/testing/AgaviTesting.class.php: 
21:42 < CIA-12> - allows inclusion/exclusion of suites via --include-suite / --exclude-suite
21:42 < CIA-12> -refs #380
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21:47 < CIA-12> felix * r3436 /branches/1.0/test/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
21:47 < CIA-12> - adds a testcase for the AgaviArrayPathDefinition
21:47 < CIA-12> - adds a set of tests for AgaviArrayPathDefinition::getPartsFromName
21:47 < CIA-12> - refs #308
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22:04 < _cheerios> forgot, due phpisms bools+ints work even as strings; just if($obj) problem then, as that'll always be true :|
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22:25 < _cheerios> oh, joy: if($result->__toString() == false) {}
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04:47 < horros> Huomenta.
04:48 < aka-> Huomenta
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06:31 < v-dogg> huomenta
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07:04 < Wombert> mmmm
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07:30 < Spica> huomenta
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08:10 < _cheerios> huomenta
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08:30 < moritz> huomenta
08:31 < moritz> I know this isn't really the place to ask the question but I was wondering if someone could give me a pointer with an mysql query
08:31 < nfq> yo moritz 
08:31 < moritz> how do I get mysql to use my index on a range query
08:31 < moritz> nfq:  hi
08:32 < moritz> SELECT * FROM foo WHERE date>'bar' AND date<'foo'
08:33 < moritz> with an index on `date`
08:33 < moritz> ignores my index
08:34 < moritz> nfq:  do you think anybody's up yet?
08:34 < _cheerios> moritz: try also WHERE date BETWEEN 'bar' and 'foo'
08:34 < _cheerios> also, 'explain' is a bit wierd. on mysql 5.0 it says it doesn't use an index for a datetime field (i suppose that date is such), but on mysql 5.1 it does.
08:34 < moritz> _cheerios:  let me give that a try
08:36 < v-dogg> mysql <3 (sorry, cannot help myself :)
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08:40 < moritz> I use mysql 5.0.67 and _cheerios it doesn't like that syntax SELECT * FROM foo WHERE date>'bar' (AND) WHERE date<'foo'
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08:41 < v-dogg> moritz: that looks very wrong. does some mysql version support that?
08:42 < moritz> v-dogg:  what do you mean? Multiple WHERE clauses?
08:42 < v-dogg> yes
08:42 < _cheerios> moritz, what kind of syntax is that and why would mysql like it?
08:43 < moritz> you mean the (AND)?
08:43 < _cheerios> all of it
08:43 < moritz> well this is my actual query
08:43 < moritz> SELECT * FROM foo WHERE date>'bar' AND date<'foo'
08:43 < moritz> sorry
08:44 < moritz> SELECT repr_id FROM shows_ottin WHERE `playing_date`>='2008-12-5'  WHERE `playing_date`<='2008-12-12'
08:44 < moritz> sorry
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08:44 < moritz> SELECT repr_id FROM shows_ottin WHERE `playing_date`>='2008-12-5'  AND `playing_date`<='2008-12-12'
08:44 < moritz> and I'm trying to get mysql to use my index on playing_date
08:46 < moritz> _cheerios:  You I just got your suggestion:  Sorry I'm an idiot
08:46 < v-dogg> so it wasn't your actual query :)
08:50 < moritz> this doesn't use my key either
08:50 < moritz> SELECT repr_id FROM shows_ottin WHERE `playing_date` BETWEEN '2008-12-5'  AND '2008-12-12'
08:50 < moritz> so do you think I should just upgrade to 5.1?  And it might work?
08:52 < _cheerios> ask around in mysql-circles. it could be that EXPLAIN is broken, and that query works fine. Or that you need 5.1.
08:52 < moritz> cool thanks
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09:56 < trophaeum> warning, between in mysql can break the query planner and give u a non optimal query
10:03 < Macen> lol: http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/BidRequests/ShowBidRequest.asp?lngBidRequestId=1066079
10:03 < Macen> Win FAIL
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10:23 < Macen> interesting problem now...
10:23 < Macen> I'm calling various classes from my old setup in via autoload.xml
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10:24 < Macen> In one of the files, it handles connecting to the database from within the class __construct, and an instance of the class is created at the end of the file
10:25 < Macen> the db file comes before another class which creates this error on the server, but not locally... http://devel1.gosnews.info/universities
10:26 < Macen> if i create an instance of "mysql" inside the function before using the mysql_escape_string function, it works fine, but this should already of been done in the previous file that was loaded
10:26 < Macen> so how does autoload.xml work? it loads one after the other or in another sequence than seen in the file?
10:27 < Macen> or all at once?
10:27  * Macen scratches head 
10:35 < Macen> it probably works locally because i don't require authentication 
10:35 < Macen> whereas the server does..
10:35 < Macen> hmm
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10:46 < Macen> also when it goes into production mode, one of the pages stops working ??
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10:50 < v-dogg> agavi's autoloading works like this: autoload.xml is parsed and classname=>file index is created and agavi's autoload handler is registered
10:51 < v-dogg> then php calls the autoload handler and agavi check whether the class is registered and tries to load it
10:52 < v-dogg> then = if a non-existent class is encountered
10:52 < v-dogg> so files are included on-demand
10:53 < v-dogg> but agavi checks that the file exists when it parses autoload.xml
11:04 < Wombert_> [11:46] Macen: also when it goes into production mode, one of the pages stops working ??
11:04 < Wombert_> case problem?
11:04 < Wombert_> OS X is case isensitive
11:04 < Wombert_> +n
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11:04 < Macen> ahh...
11:05 < Macen> any way to make it case sensitive by default?
11:05 < Macen> or?
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11:14 < _cheerios> don't use uppercase. problem solved!
11:23 < v-dogg> what does "one of the pages stops working" mean?
11:23 < v-dogg> a bit vague error description
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11:38 < _cheerios> http://code.google.com/p/web-framework-benchmarks/
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11:50 < _cheerios> http://www.recessframework.com/ sounds like cool stuff in the making. Author says it might be out next week. Deffo will check it out
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11:59 < _cheerios> "After Cal’s workshop I asked him: if you could do it all over again with Flickr would you choose to go with Python or Ruby? Cal’s answer: Nope, I’d do it in PHP."
12:00 < Macen> mmm
12:00 < Macen> it's not an OSX->Unix thing
12:01 < Macen> When i change development to production locally the slot 404's
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12:02 < Macen> outputtypes.xml 
12:02 < Macen> err
12:02 < Macen> http://paste2.org/p/116229
12:05 < Macen> literally, i switch from development and then to production
12:05 < Macen> and it 404's
12:06 < Macen> cleared cache...
12:09 < _cheerios> happy debugging.
12:09 < Macen> ya that the thing, it turns off adt ;)
12:09 < Macen> bleh...
12:10 < Macen> can wait..
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12:10 < v-dogg> is your validation mode different in production environment?
12:11 < v-dogg> and do you use request data to select a slot action?
12:11 < v-dogg> if you have "conditional" in dev mode and "strict" in production, try changing it 
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12:18 < Macen> v-dogg: would this be in a  validators.xml 
12:18 < Macen> as they're all clean 
12:21 < Macen> i'll look into later
12:21 < Macen> maybe recreate the action from command line
12:26 < v-dogg> no, factories.xml
12:26 < v-dogg>  and yes, you should always use the command line helper
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12:46 < Macen> hmm
12:47 < Macen> i see what's happening there
12:47 < Macen> 	
12:47 < Macen> 		
12:47 < Macen> 			conditional
12:47 < Macen> 		
12:47 < Macen> 		
12:47 < Macen> 	
12:48 < Macen> hmk ???
12:48 < Macen> heh?
12:48 < Macen> so ya that's obviously the problem 
12:48 < Macen> ...
12:49 < Macen> why it is setup like that though is another question...
12:49 < Macen> is there any info on how does agavi distinguishes between "conditional" and "strict"?
12:49 < v-dogg> it was once thought it is nicer to develop without strict validation but this has since been changed
12:50 < Macen> can i get away with "conditional" ?
12:50 < v-dogg> strict => only validated input (get, post, cookies, headers) are passed to the action/view
12:50 < Macen> ah you see, that's interesting
12:50 < Macen> i was wondering about that
12:51 < v-dogg> conditional => if there is a validation xml for the action "strict" rules, otherwise all data is passed
12:51 < Macen> i see
12:51 < Macen> thanks
12:51 < Macen> :)
12:51 < v-dogg> relaxed => all data (except if explicit validation failed) is passed
12:52 < Macen> kk
12:52 < Macen> thanks
12:52 < Macen> i think strict would probably be the best approach to take tbh
12:53 < Macen> i like it when i am told i have to do something :)
12:53 < v-dogg> of course but it is also the most demanding
12:53 < Macen> obviously yes
12:53 < Macen> as it will presumably do all GET's
12:53 < v-dogg> validation rules apply to route parameters too
12:53 < Macen> ya
12:53 < Macen> unless there is a way to do method="write" in factories.xml ?
12:54 < Macen> would possibly be a nice compromise 
12:55 < v-dogg> no I mean if you don't set up a validator for "foo" in /myroute/(foo:\d+) "foo" parameter is not available for actions
13:02 < Macen> so that would be method="read"
13:02 < Macen> different settings for GET / POST
13:05 < Macen> also, can TextMate do code completion ? i'm struggling to write out validators.xml without something to reference 
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13:55 < MrJeep> good morning
13:56 < a|K|a> Huomenta
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14:33 < _cheerios> "Tip #1: Try coding with your eyes closed."
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14:39 < _cheerios> from http://csel.cs.colorado.edu/~brooksbp/fresh-advice.html
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14:42 < Macen> agavi.org could do with an extra page linking to other popular plugins/libraries that are compatible with it
14:43 < Macen> would be useful 
14:43 < Macen> adt, for example, or other stuff like opcode and doctrine 
14:43 < Macen> demonstrate how extensible it is 
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14:47 < Macen> Wombert: do you have code completion tools for XML's in TextMate ??
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14:48 < Macen> charming 
14:48 < Macen> they're saying that if i create the PHP code returning data from the schema a plugin can be put together 
14:48 < Macen> would be useful....
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15:04 < _cheerios> if you want it, do it. should keep you busy for a few moments *g*
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15:24 < Macen> haha :>
15:24 < Macen> i will if he comes back to me with answers 
15:24 < Macen> it would be cool
15:24 < Macen> no time right now
15:25 < Macen> i was thinking of perhaps releasing this form generator its really working out
15:25 < Macen> not having to worry about population makes it a lot less messy 
15:33 < saracen> I have a dropdown box of the values: 0 = None, 1 = Daily and 2 = Weekly. When the dropdown box has the value of 2, I want to add one more validator in to the mix. I'm using this code: http://pastebin.com/m13cdc1ac - But, the "days" validator seems to always be used, regardless of the value selected. Am I doing this right?
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17:22 < Wombert> saracen: FYI, validator names are usually not necessary
17:22 < Wombert> unless you want to redefine it in another  block or if you want to query its result in code later on
17:22 < Wombert> saves you tedious typing work
17:23 < saracen> Ah, good to know :)
17:23 < saracen> Any idea how to handle the above?
17:24 < saracen> If it can't be done like that, I'm thinking about making a Switch sort of validator, where depending on the value, a dependancy is given. But I thought the equals would be able to handle it
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17:25 < Wombert> that should work
17:25 < Wombert> not sure why it doesn't
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17:25 < Wombert> lemme check something
17:26 < saracen> kk
17:26 < Wombert> hmh
17:26 < Wombert> nah
17:29 < Wombert> and it never runs the days validator, saracen?
17:29 < saracen> It does, but for every selection. If I choose None or Daily for the frequency, I can't progress
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17:31 < Wombert> [18:29] Wombert: and it never runs the days validator, saracen?
17:31 < Wombert> [18:29] saracen: It does, but for every selection. If I choose None or Daily for the frequency, I can't progress
17:31 < Wombert> [18:29] kaos|work_ (n=dominik@ppp-93-104-82-215.dynamic.mnet-online.de) joined the chat room.
17:31 < kaos|work_> yah
17:31 < kaos|work_> i read the log
17:31 < kaos|work_> checking it right now
17:31 < kaos|work_> if i can reproduce it
17:31 < Wombert> that would be super odd though
17:32 < Wombert> I'm expecting it to be more of a cache problem or such :)
17:33 < kaos|work_> well, i wouldn't know how to explain that behaviour with a cache problem
17:33 < kaos|work_> but i wouldn't know how that could happen at all, so we'll see ;)
17:35 < saracen> If theres some sort of cache made when _accessing_ the page, then I would just like to mention, that this part of the form is loaded via ajax.
17:35 < saracen> The frequency selector dynamically loads a form based on none, daily and weekly
17:36 < saracen> But, when a FPF error happens, the input form loads the frequency form as a slot, so that FPF can fill in the errors
17:36 < saracen> input view*
17:39 < kaos|work_> hmm, with 0.11 everything is working as it should
17:39 < kaos|work_> i'll try 1.0 now
17:39 < kaos|work_> you'r using 1.0, right ?
17:47 < saracen> Yeah
17:47 < saracen> 1.0beta6
17:48 < kaos|work_> yeah
17:48 < kaos|work_> i can reproduce it
17:48 < kaos|work_> it's broken in 1.0
17:48 < kaos|work_> for whatever reason O_o
17:48 < kaos|work_> nice catch, i'll look into it, thx
17:49 < saracen> np :)
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17:59 < Wombert> probably a config handler problem, saracen 
17:59 < Wombert> I'll look into it right away
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18:16  * Wombert stabs
18:16 < Wombert> wtf is going on
18:18 < nfq> Wombert: monday!
18:19 < nfq> that's what's going on!
18:23 < Wombert> :<
18:24 < saracen> Wombert: There isn't currently a way to trigger a validator based on, say... 2 dependancies, only one that would have to be matched?
18:25 < Wombert> no saracen 
18:25 < Wombert> make an or validator
18:25 < Wombert> with two separate ones of the same kind
18:27 < saracen> Yeah, if thats the case - to kill 2 birds with one stone. Is there any chance  Could be implemented? This means I coul just encapsulate dependancies to a group, and if a validator is used for more than one "group", I could xinclude (where the depends="" for that validator wouldn't conflict)
18:27 < saracen> That make sense?
18:39 < saracen> For example:
18:39 < saracen> Normal: http://pastebin.com/m6f54360d
18:39 < saracen> Includes: http://pastebin.com/m183a9f32
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18:50 < _cheerios> jee
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19:20 < _cheerios> holy shit. someone actually has made a php version of a small smalltalk framework that uses component coolness all over. syntax isn't quite as cool, but kudos for walking the mile http://code.google.com/p/phaux/wiki/FakeingItWithPhaux
19:25 < _cheerios> smalltalk vs php: http://pastie.org/339812
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19:37 < _cheerios> The creator of RoR admits Smalltalk and Seaside "is the standard by which all other frameworks are trying to achieve" or something to that effect. I do know that at a conference, he said "I defy anyone to come up here with their framework and create dynamic websites faster than we can. Except Avi" Where Avi is Avi Bryant, the creator of Seaside :)
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20:02 < _cheerios> snicker @ "page biased frameworks"
20:11 < aka> haha
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20:57 < saracen> Whats the new way to add an error? I see that setError() in the validator manager has been deprecated
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23:53 < MugeSo> huomenta
23:55 < MugeSo> Why 'Testing 1.0.0 beta 5' at agavi plant right side, www.agavi.org ?
23:56 < MugeSo> BTW, It's cold today in Tokyo.
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01:12 < bobbytek2> huomenta
01:13 < bobbytek2> How can I call agavi from a cron job?
01:13 < bobbytek2> What's the calling syntax? I'm really new to php so, I dumb :/
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02:13 < erisco> http://pastebin.com/d6c735e78       http://pastebin.com/m3cc75b9
02:13 < erisco> first pastebin is the error agavi gave me, second is my xml file
02:13 < erisco> no idea what I've done wrong. ideas?
02:14 < erisco> here is my agavi installation: http://pastebin.com/m272f7bb7
02:14 < MugeSo> line 13 parameter should be ae:parameter
02:15 < MugeSo> also line 27,36,45
02:16 < bobbytek2> Anyone know the answer to my question?
02:16 < bobbytek2> Me love you long time 
02:16 < bobbytek2> :)
02:17 < MugeSo> bobbytek2: I use ConsoleRequest and ConsoleRouting.
02:17 < erisco> MugeSo, here are my corrections: http://pastebin.com/d598333e6     here are the errors: http://pastebin.com/m3496e6e8
02:17 < erisco> seems the same
02:18 < MugeSo> bobbytek2: http://trac.agavi.org/ticket/480
02:19 < MugeSo> humm
02:19 < erisco> MugeSo, if it helps, removing all the 's stops the errors
02:19 < erisco> but obviously I need them in there
02:19 < bobbytek2> MugeSo: you are an agavi god
02:19 < bobbytek2> Thank you :)
02:21 < MugeSo> see line 14-17, error sequence and errors element are alternative.
02:21 < MugeSo> bobbytek2: god is Wombert ;)
02:21 < erisco> MugeSo, sorry, what does this imply?
02:22 < bobbytek2> MugeSo: is this in 1.0 beta?
02:22 < erisco> MugeSo, I changed ae:configuration to configuration and the problem resolved
02:23 < erisco> MugeSo, I presume they are changing their schema and are using the new ae: namespace for backwards compatibility
02:23 < erisco> too much typing for me though :P
02:23 < MugeSo> erisco: oh, really!?
02:24 < erisco> MugeSo, making that change fixed the errors, I am just guessing as to the ae namespace
02:27 < erisco> MugeSo, hm, I am not sure what it is, but none of my validation seems to run
02:27 < erisco> MugeSo, the validation would clearly fail, yet executeWrite() is still called
02:29 < erisco> how can I check to see if the validation is actually running?
02:29 < MugeSo> wait!!! I have a bloody nose!!!!
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02:29 < erisco> that dry winter air eh?
02:31 < erisco> I tried changing everything to the ae: namespace but now I get errors again
02:37 < MugeSo> http://pastebin.com/m30c96380
02:38 < MugeSo> I mean you must choice 14-17 type or 28-29 type
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02:40 < erisco> MugeSo, I didn't get an error for using it that way, and http://www.agavi.org/documentation/tutorial/validation.html did it that way
02:40 < erisco> regardless of the style I use, though, my validation evidently is not running/working
02:41 < MugeSo> oh, you are right, sorry.
02:42 < erisco> any ideas with my validation troubles? how can I start debugging this?
02:43 < bobbytek2> MugeSo: is that your console patch?
02:44 < MugeSo> in strict-mode, validator removes invalid parameters from AgaviRequessDataHolder. this may be able to help you, erisco
02:44 < MugeSo> no,bobbytek2
02:45 < bobbytek2> Oh... who's is it?
02:45 < erisco> MugeSo, I thought if there were invalid parameters that executeWrite() would never be called??
02:45 < bobbytek2> Who is david?
02:46 < erisco> ...
02:46 < MugeSo> some view will called
02:47 < MugeSo> bobbytek2: I don't know :(
02:48 < MugeSo> ahhhhhh,
02:48 < erisco> david, seriously people :P
02:48 < erisco> Wombert ring any bells? no?
02:48 < bobbytek2> hehe
02:48 < bobbytek2> Ya, but not david :/
02:48 < erisco> well I made the connection for you :)
02:49 < erisco> he did the london conference, for example
02:49 < bobbytek2> now bells are ringing :)
02:50 < erisco> grr. if there is anything I don't like about agavi it is validation. never had luck with it
02:50 < erisco> and fpf usually gets me some way or another
02:51 < erisco> durrrr
02:52 < erisco> the action of my form is blank, whoops... but why does validation not kick in??
02:52 < erisco> nothing should be valid as blank..
02:52 < MugeSo> ah, $this->container->getValidationManager()->getErrors()
02:53 < erisco> there are none, though, otherwise executeWrite() would never be called
02:54 < erisco> form action is corrected, everything still flies right on through
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02:54 < erisco> none of the submitted values come through
02:55 < erisco> $rd->getParameter('name'); even though a name is submitted comes up blan
02:55 < erisco> k
02:55 < erisco> $this->container->getValidationManager()->getErrors() is an empty array
02:58 < erisco> quite infuriating -.-
03:01 < erisco> any ideas at all?
03:04 < MugeSo> name of xml file?
03:04 < erisco> Contact.xml
03:05 < MugeSo> show me current version
03:05 < erisco> http://pastebin.com/m2b75461f
03:06 < erisco> is there a way to tell if the validators are even being run?
03:06 < erisco> without modifying agavi source code would be convenient, but...
03:12 < MugeSo> your config works on my environment.
03:12 < erisco> I simply setup a new agavi project
03:13 < erisco> this is the first validator that I have added to it...
03:13 < erisco> what else can I test?
03:13 < MugeSo> That's odd :(
03:14 < erisco> the post data is being sent, I tested that
03:14 < MugeSo> I have no other idea...
03:14 < erisco> could I have a setting or something somewhere messed up?
03:16 < erisco> surely its nothing to do with my action
03:17 < erisco> I don't know what else to look at. post data is submitted, validation file is correct, nothing works
03:19 < erisco> MugeSo, is there anything I can pastebin for you?
03:20 < MugeSo> if AgaviAction::isSimple  returns true, validation don't execute... but,,,,
03:20 < erisco> bool(false) 
03:21 < erisco> doing var_dump($this->isSimple());
03:21 < MugeSo> :(
03:27 < erisco> and for the love of god why do none of the parameters show up in agavi?
03:27 < erisco> validation must not be running at all if they are not showing up as request parameters
03:28 < erisco> why why why =\
03:30 < erisco> MugeSo, the validators are never registered with the validation manager
03:30 < erisco> $this->container->getValidationManager()->getChilds()
03:30 < erisco> returns an empty array
03:31 < erisco> why is this happening? or not happening rather...
03:31 < erisco> agavi is bitching if my validation xml file has errors but it doesn't actually register the validators??
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03:33 < MugeSo> does agavi run with debug mode?
03:33 < erisco> I believe it is, although I have never been able to tell
03:34 < erisco> didn't seem to matter what I set the debug setting to, be it true or false... agavi would still read and parse all the xml files instead of just the php cache
03:36 < MugeSo> can you show me cache file for validation xml?
03:36 < erisco> MugeSo, aside from a comment, its blank
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03:37 < MugeSo> hummm
03:37 < erisco> I wonder if this is some bug that has been introduced
03:40 < MugeSo> oh sory to say, actually, your config file don't work even for my enviroment
03:40 < erisco> MugeSo, I went back to the old namespace and it works fine now
03:40 < MugeSo> very sorry to confuse :(
03:41 < erisco> yeah, lost 1.5 hrs of sleep now because of this. sucks eh?
03:42 < MugeSo> :(
03:44 < erisco> thanks very much for the help MugeSo, you led me in the right direction
03:44 < erisco> was likely to be at least 2hrs of sleep otherwise
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04:07 < horros> Huomenta.
04:15 < MugeSo> huomenta
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08:26 < Wombert> MugeSo: woot! true
08:26 < Wombert> need to replace that
08:26 < MugeSo> :D
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08:29 < _cheerios> huomenta
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10:06 < E_mE> huomenta
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10:17 < mach3_domke> Huomenta
10:17 < mach3_domke> can someone help me with an regex?
10:19 < mach3_domke> i want to search in an file for all between->      '; ?>
10:19 < mach3_domke> i wrote this pattern but it dosen't work preg_match_all("<[?]php require_once '.+';[?]>",$includeContent,$arrResults);
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10:27 < E_mE> mach3_domke: instead of [?] try \?
10:27 < E_mE> mach3_domke: also a useful tool to debug your regex: http://www.spaweditor.com/scripts/regex/index.php
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10:38 < mach3_domke> sucks not working :(
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10:43 < mach3_domke> preg_match_all("<\?php require_once '.*'; \?>",$includeContent,$arrResults);  wordks ;)
10:45 < v-dogg> http://pastebin.ca/1286747
10:47 < v-dogg> for mach3_domke ^
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10:49 < mach3_domke> thanks :)
10:49 < mach3_domke> but my pattern works too :)
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10:54 < Wombert> you don't even have delimiters there
10:57 < Wombert> preg_match_all('/<\?php\s+require_once\s*(?\s*[\'"][^\'"]+[\'"]\s*)?\s*;\s*\?>/'
10:57 < Wombert> that's the lame version though
10:57 < Wombert> the cool one would use conditional backreferences to only match a closing brace if the opening one was there, and to use the same closing quote as the opening quote
10:58 < Wombert> wait
10:58 < v-dogg> show-off ;)
10:58 < Wombert> preg_match_all('/<\?php\s+require_once\s*\(?\s*[\'"]([^\'"]+[\'"])\s*\)?\s*;\s*\?>/'
10:58 < Wombert> here
10:58 < Wombert> so $matches[1] is the filename :p
11:09 < mach3_domke> :9
11:17 < trophaeum> oh man, looking at that makes me want to puke
11:17 < trophaeum> http://au.php.net/manual/en/function.token-get-all.php
11:31 < v-dogg> maybe we should first ask what mach3_domke is actually trying to achieve :)
11:34 < trophaeum> probably, but a regex for something like that that could have anything from a constant infront of the require_once statement to... who knows what... just my 2c :)
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11:50 < mach3_domke> u want to see?
11:52 < mach3_domke> http://pastebin.ca/1286766
11:54 < mach3_domke> i have to list all Files and the included Files for a company ... this company made the list by there own! i dont want to list 200 Pages and all there included files :)
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12:50 < liutis> can ADT show FPF data now or it future stuff?
12:55 < v-dogg> it can't (yet)
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12:58 < liutis> ok
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13:21 < bobbytek2> Wombert: is the console stuff easy to setup for 1.0 beta?
13:22 < bobbytek2> Just drop in the files and make some minor config changes?
13:22 < bobbytek2> I'm thinking about testing it out today, but only if it will take a little time 
13:22 < bobbytek2> :)
13:25 < Wombert> I don't know
13:25 < Wombert> if I knew, it would be part of Agavi
13:25 < Wombert> it probably works
13:25 < Wombert> do not call the classes Agavi* if you want to avoid trouble, though
13:25 < bobbytek2> Well, you did the patch :)
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13:25 < bobbytek2> oh, you mean for 1.0 beta?
13:26 < Wombert> nah
13:26 < bobbytek2> ... you don't know if it works
13:26 < Wombert> eh?
13:26 < Wombert> patch?
13:26 < Wombert> wat?
13:26 < bobbytek2> one sec
13:26 < bobbytek2> http://trac.agavi.org/ticket/480
13:26 < bobbytek2> Aren't you david? :)
13:26 < E_mE> can i install mysqli via PEAR or PECL
13:27 < Wombert> I am, but mind the bug history
13:27 < Wombert> it's just assigned to me
13:27 < bobbytek2> oh, my bad
13:27 < Wombert> pecl, E_mE 
13:27 < Wombert> if we have enough time left, we'll do it for 1.0
13:27 < Wombert> it's certainly very useful to have a console implementation
13:27 < bobbytek2> who is ross?
13:27 < Wombert> but that one there is a bit limited
13:27 < Wombert> ross is... ross :)
13:27 < bobbytek2> he in here at all?
13:27 < Wombert> he's since changed jobs and now has to endure the pains of Django
13:28 < Wombert> very rarely ever since he switched to python
13:28 < bobbytek2> ewwy
13:28 < Wombert> well python = <3
13:28 < Wombert> but django... not so much
13:28 < bobbytek2> Is there a simpler way to call agavi from the command line?
13:29 < bobbytek2> Or would it require something similar?
13:31 < _cheerios> just wait till my new framework in 2009, django+ror = FALSE PROPHETS! HA!
13:32 < E_mE> mmm pecl doesn't seem to have mysqli when i do list-packages
13:32 < E_mE> hmpf
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13:40 < MrJeep> goude morning
13:44 < MrJeep> By the way, the comments are great in the config files of 1.0b6
13:44 < MrJeep> especially for the form populator
13:56 < MrJeep> :)
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14:37 < bobbytek> Is there a way to download attachments from trac?
14:38 < bobbytek> They only seem to be html-ified
14:38 < bobbytek> nvm
14:38 < bobbytek> :)
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15:09 < bobbytek> Any idea why this might be occurring? http://www.pastie.org/340478
15:18 < bobbytek> Do you think it might be the namespaces?
15:18 < bobbytek> I really don't know when to use ae vs. not
15:22 < bobbytek> v-dogg: Any suggestions? :)
15:28 < bobbytek> nvm, it WAS a namespacing issue :)
15:44 < bobbytek> Wombert: ping ping ping
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16:00 < _cheerios> jee
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16:02 < crazyhead> any idea how i can access to special parameters on $_SERVER with agavi? (one of our customer use an single sign on software for apache..)
16:09 < MrJeep> i think it's with $context->getRequest()->getParameter()
16:09 < MrJeep> but I'm very not sure
16:10 < MrJeep> but I'm pretty sure it's in the request object
16:10 < bobbytek> wtf
16:10 < bobbytek> $argv = & $GLOBALS['argv']; returns null
16:10 < bobbytek> but I am passing arguments
16:11 < crazyhead> hmm
16:12 < bobbytek> Maybe it's this crazy Zend Studio
16:13 < bobbytek> argh!
16:19 < crazyhead> if i make var_dump on $context->getRequest() i see my values
16:19 < crazyhead> but
16:19 < crazyhead> with getParameter
16:19 < crazyhead> i have no access 
16:25 < crazyhead> $rd->getHeaders() i got it :)
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16:57 < bobbytek> Okay, was using CGI not CLI :)
16:57 < bobbytek> All is good now! Yay!
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17:33 < bobbytek> What's an appropriate output type for a console based context?
17:33 < bobbytek> I mean, in an action, what should I return?
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17:34 < bobbytek> Is null good?
17:35 < bobbytek> I confuso :/
17:35 < v-dogg> you should return the view name like always
17:35 < v-dogg> and render the output in view and/or template
17:35 < bobbytek> there is no output
17:35 < bobbytek> This is a cron job that just mails
17:35 < bobbytek> I'm using a model to do that
17:36 < bobbytek> http://www.pastie.org/340582
17:37 < bobbytek> v-dogg: That look right to you?
17:41 < marklar|omni> hai
17:41 < a|K|a> HAI!
17:42 < marklar|omni> SUP
17:43 < _cheerios> yo
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17:47 < bobbytek> v-dogg: a view name isn't strictly necessary right?
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19:20 < tzicu>  Huomenta to everybody
19:20 < _cheerios> huomenta tzicu
19:21 < tzicu> short question
19:21 < tzicu> technical one
19:21 < tzicu> I'm trying to upgrade to agavi 1.0beta6
19:21 < tzicu> and I'm getting an exception 
19:21 < MrJeep> which is
19:22 < tzicu> which sais something like ... "there is no config handler ddefined"
19:22 < tzicu> for some custom xml file
19:22 < tzicu> I'm using 
19:23 < tzicu> and I was wondering how would I add a config handler for that file
19:23 < tzicu> :)
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19:27 < MrJeep> hum
19:27 < MrJeep> let's talk
19:28 < MrJeep> I have display a series of results. Of course there is too much results for a single page so I'll have to use 'paged' result
19:28 < MrJeep> and this paged results will have to be used in a lot of pages
19:28 < MrJeep> what's the best way to proceed
19:29 < MrJeep> creating some kind of page controller
19:29 < MrJeep> and a page control (in the view) ?
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19:30 < MrJeep> anyone ? :)
19:31 < MrJeep> extending the base action ?
19:31 < MrJeep> and adding methods to count the ammount of results
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19:36 < v-dogg> I do it this way: ProductSearchModel has two methods - doSearch($parameters) which builds and caches the query and getCachedSearch($id, $offset) which returns array('total_count'=>$total, 'products'=>array(/*current page*/))
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19:37 < v-dogg> SearchAction calls $searchModel->doSearch() and then redirects to SearchResultAction "/products/search/(cache_id)/(offset)" which shows the result
19:38 < MrJeep> well right now this is simply for displaying products, it's not a search yet
19:38 < MrJeep> but I see the idea
19:38 < MrJeep> what about adding the functionnality to the action
19:38 < v-dogg> what functionality?
19:38 < MrJeep> by adding some method like getPageLimit(), getPageOffset()
19:39 < MrJeep> overriding 1 method like countTheFreakingTotalOfRecords
19:39 < v-dogg> I don't see the need for that. the model handles all that and action just passes along the parameters from the route
19:40 < v-dogg> and the view - as it knows the total count and current offset builds [page1, page2, _page3_, page4 ...] menu
19:41 < MrJeep> so the model will handle a piece of this by giving the total count
19:41 < v-dogg> total count is cached on doSearch()
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19:42 < MrJeep> i see
19:42 < MrJeep> I would have thought paging results would be the job of the controller
19:42 < v-dogg> and returned with every row set returned by getCachedSearch($id, $offset)
19:43 < v-dogg> it is, but there isn't a lot for the controller to do - just pass the offset (and maybe count) to the search model
19:43 < v-dogg> that's how I see it
19:44 < MrJeep> ok,ty for your point of view
19:44 < v-dogg> currenly I don't cache results (other than "select count(*)" done by initial doSearch()) but when the time comes for that, I can easily add it to the model and controller/view doesn't have to be changed at all
19:45 < v-dogg> but now: telly and goodies :)
19:45 < v-dogg> bai
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20:19 < _cheerios> http://royal.pingdom.com/2008/11/14/the-worlds-most-super-designed-data-center-fit-for-a-james-bond-villain/
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20:59 < LBO_> huomenta guys
21:00 < LBO_> ADT is missing after forwarding
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22:01 < _cheerios> Question: What do I do with these bitches? Sincerely, Rolyat
22:01 < _cheerios> Answer: Ah, one of life’s eternal questions. Right up there with, “Who am I?”, “Why am I here?”, and, of course, “Can I wear black shoes with a brown belt?”
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22:33 < _cheerios> doh. "G(r)eek riots" wasn't so interesting when read correct.
22:37 < _cheerios> http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/12/2008_greek_riots.html manneguins burning looks ace
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23:14 < bobbytek2> What is ADT>
23:14 < bobbytek2> ?
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04:15 < MugeSo> huomenta
04:15 < MugeSo> any one use recaptcha with agavi?
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06:45 < horros> Huomenta.
06:58 < v-dogg> huomenta
06:59 < v-dogg> http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=46864 :D
07:12 < horros> :D :D
07:12 < crazyhead> any idea why agavi routing->gen() sometimes return this:
07:12 < crazyhead> array
07:12 < crazyhead>       0 => string '' (length=0)
07:12 < crazyhead>       1 => 
07:12 < crazyhead>         array
07:12 < crazyhead>           empty
07:12 < crazyhead>       2 => 
07:12 < crazyhead>         array
07:12 < crazyhead>           empty
07:12 < crazyhead>       3 => 
07:12 < crazyhead>         array
07:13 < crazyhead> iam a little bit confused but it really comes from gen()
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07:16 < crazyhead> aaaah
07:16 < crazyhead> it make sense on which context i call gen()
07:20 < crazyhead> ok next question: i call routing: AgaviContext::getInstance('web')->getRouting->gen(...); i call the function via soap and it put me the soap.php in my route.. why.. ? i specially call it with 'web' ... ?
07:20 < crazyhead> it make sense if just make $this->getContext()... but if call 'web' directly.. ?
07:21 < horros> crazyhead: I'm betting it's because of the request headers.
07:22 < crazyhead> then its a bug.. because i said to agavi "Hey agavi GIVE ME WEB"
07:23 < horros> Well, SOAP _is_ "web" (usually).
07:23 < crazyhead> ;P 
07:23 < crazyhead> yes sure.. but you have the different context.. 
07:24 < horros> It's pretty hard to say what's happening without seeing your routing.xml -file.
07:25 < crazyhead> the route is in 
07:25 < crazyhead> 
07:25 < crazyhead> you will cry if you see the route.
07:25 < crazyhead> :)
07:26  * horros shrugs
07:27 < crazyhead> but i think the context was what you looking for.. and the context in my routing is correct
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07:48 < radu> huomenta
07:48 < radu> anybody
07:50 < radu> no one here?
08:07 < crazyhead> .
08:07 < crazyhead> :)
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08:39 < v-dogg> "poor documentation no way for help and an arrogant community are the
08:39 < v-dogg> icon of PHP, the buggy eunice and gay lang.
08:39 < v-dogg> "
08:39 < v-dogg> hahaha
08:39 < horros> But it's true!
08:40 < v-dogg> so true :D
08:42 < horros> Where's that from?-)
08:43 < horros> Ah, the bug report.
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09:08 < v-dogg> yup
09:08 < moritz> huomenta
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09:42 < fnordfish> Huomenta
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10:42 < Wombert> zomg
10:42 < Wombert> http://trac.agavi.org/ticket/961
10:43 < radu> Extra element routing in interleave
10:43 < radu> does this sound familiar to anyone?
10:44 < radu> apart from the fact that the factories.xml file is not validated against the .nrg 
10:44 < radu> or rng
10:49 < radu> solved that issue
10:49 < radu> nevermind
10:50 < PyroBilly> Huomenta
10:53 < CIA-10> felix * r3437 /branches/1.0/src/testing/AgaviTesting.class.php: 
10:53 < CIA-10> added two linebreaks to the end of the help-output in AgaviTesting
10:53 < CIA-10> refs #380
10:53 < fnordfish> question on agavi locale: Can the TranslationManager or Locale provide information about which time-format is preferred by the current locale - say 24h for germany, 12h for US 
10:56 < PyroBilly> Wombert - any thoughts on what we can do for you?
10:56 < PyroBilly> fnordfish: can strftime help?
10:56 < Wombert> damn PyroBilly I was meaning to shoot you an email about that
10:56 < Wombert> telling you that I'm still busy till the weekend and won't get to replying before that
10:56 < PyroBilly> ha ha ha
10:56 < Wombert> sorry dude I must have forgotten that
10:56 < PyroBilly> how true
10:57 < PyroBilly> It's no problem
10:58 < PyroBilly> I'm keen to at least get some ideas about what's most useful so that I can nudge the writers in that direction
10:58 < PyroBilly> but I know at this time of year it can be very hard to find a moment event to gather your thoughts
11:03 < fnordfish> PyroBilly: i just need the Information what the preferred layout is - i dont want to format anything (yet)
11:06 < CIA-10> felix * r3438 /branches/1.0/src/testing/AgaviTesting.class.php: 
11:06 < CIA-10> added and corrected some usage information
11:06 < CIA-10> - added info about environment
11:06 < CIA-10> - fixed cli call info
11:06 < CIA-10> #refs 380
11:10 < fnordfish> just went thru the locale xml for german ... could try to parse the default time formats for occurrence the 'a'-format :-/  
11:14 < Wombert> fnordfish: 
11:14 < Wombert> "The preference of 12 hour versus 24 hour for the locale should be derived from the short timeFormat. If the hour symbol is "h" or "K" (of various lengths) then the format is 12 hour; otherwise it is 24 hour."
11:14 < Wombert> http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr35/#Calendar_Elements
11:15 < fnordfish> hm .. en.xml says "h:mm a" for short
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11:19 < _cheerios> huomenta
11:19 < fnordfish> ahh - now i see 
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11:38 < MerlinDMC> huomenta
11:49 < crazyhead> dave:
11:49 < crazyhead>  ok next question: i call routing: AgaviContext::getInstance('web')->getRouting->gen(...); i call the function via soap and it put me the soap.php in my route.. why.. ? i specially call it with 'web' ... ?
11:49 < crazyhead>  it make sense if just make $this->getContext()... but if call 'web' directly.. ?
11:49 < crazyhead>  crazyhead: I'm betting it's because of the request headers.
11:49 < crazyhead>  then its a bug.. because i said to agavi "Hey agavi GIVE ME WEB"
11:50 < crazyhead>  Well, SOAP _is_ "web" (usually).
11:50 < crazyhead>  ;P 
11:50 < crazyhead>  yes sure.. but you have the different context.. 
11:50 < crazyhead>  It's pretty hard to say what's happening without seeing your routing.xml -file.
11:50 < crazyhead>  the route is in 
11:50 < crazyhead>  
11:50 < crazyhead> idea? ^^
11:50 < crazyhead> currently i clean up the route and delete soap.php manually from the route.. but i think thats not pretty nice
11:58 < Wombert> of course it's soap.php
11:58 < Wombert> that's in the current URL
11:59 < Wombert> you need to force the uri prefix in that case
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12:04 < crazyhead> how i said, atm i replace it..
12:05 < saracen> Can somebody give me there agavi rewrite rules for nginx please? =( Mine were working, but I've messed around with them accidently I keep getting the index.php in the url now, if linked from /
12:06 < saracen> Infact, how does agavi know when it should be using "clean urls" or not?
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12:27 < Wombert> saracen: you need to rewrite so it is index.php?uri[&qs]
12:28 < Wombert> lighty rules should work (they use lookahead assertions)
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13:22 < saracen> For security reasons, PHP 5.2.8 or later is required with magic_quotes_gpc enabled.
13:22 < saracen> PHP 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.4 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Nov 25 2008 22:10:31)
13:22 < CIA-10> felix * r3439 /branches/1.0/test/ (config/suites.xml tests/unit/translation/AgaviLocaleTest.php): 
13:22 < CIA-10> - adds a testcase for the agavilocale
13:22 < CIA-10> - adds a test for AgaviLocale::getCalendarDaysWide()
13:22 < CIA-10> -refs #308
13:22 < saracen> Oh wait, read the warning wrong ;x
13:23 < bobbytek2> Wombert, you're pretty adept at xpath right?
13:23 < bobbytek2> what does [*] mean?
13:23 < bobbytek2> as in /foo/bar[*]
13:24 < CIA-10> felix * r3440 /branches/1.0/test/config/suites.xml: 
13:24 < CIA-10> code beauty, replace spaces by tabs for indenting
13:24 < CIA-10> - refs #308
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13:57 < marklar|omni> i herd u liek codes
13:58 < a|K|a> more than a friend?
13:58  * _cheerios is becoming sick :<
13:59 < a|K|a> stop that!
13:59 < a|K|a> I am getting over  illness :(
13:59 < a|K|a> day 7 an still not completely better yet
14:00 < marklar|omni> fail
14:02 < _cheerios> some ppl in office been couging for months so i guess it was time to get me at some point
14:02 < _cheerios> but now... dipping into an ice cold lake !
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14:18 < marklar|omni> heh
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15:42 < hoffigk> hi. how can i enable the ajax from validation in agavi? the method handleError in action is called, and the inputview is given back, but no error messages are in teh rhe result :-(
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15:45 < moritz> I'm using a couple of classes to help my model load data, that themselves don't extend any Agavi Class.
15:45 < moritz> Is there a class I can extend to inheret the context, etc.
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15:47 < hoffigk> oooh. i found an solution. global_filters.xml -> add my ajaxHtml as output type :-) 
15:50 < hoffigk> but now i see another problem. the result has an html4 doctype. how can i remove/dosable this ?
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16:03 < moritz> huomenta
16:04 < MrJeep> hi
16:04 < moritz> in order to augment my model I wrote some data encapsulating classes 
16:04 < moritz> that themselves don't extend any agavi classe
16:05 < moritz> but are needed by the agavi model
16:05 < moritz> I would like to o
16:05 < moritz> inherit the benefits of execution within the agavi context
16:05 < moritz> Is there a base class that I can extend 
16:06 < moritz> in order to gain access to the framework functionality
16:07 < moritz> or should I just pass the context as an argument?
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16:23 < Wombert> yes moritz 
16:23 < Wombert> pass in the context
16:23 < Wombert> if they're not AgaviModels
16:24 < moritz> by copy or reference? Does it matter?
16:24 < hoffigk> so. my doctype 4.0 problem is fixed. i have sat force_output_mode in global_filters to xhtml. now it works for me :-)
16:24 < Wombert> objects are always by-ref
16:24 < moritz> ah ok,
16:24 < Wombert> cool hoffigk 
16:25 < hoffigk> agavi is soo cool :-D
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17:26 < nfq> wtf: For security reasons, PHP 5.2.8 or later is required with magic_quotes_gpc enabled
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17:38 < selloso> Huomenta
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17:40 < selloso> I#ve just upgraded my app to beta6 and I just can't access any http parameters anymore, it doesn't matter if get or post ... The only parameters in the request data holder is 
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17:41 < selloso> i meant are: array(2) {   [0]=>   string(6) "module"   [1]=>   string(6) "action" } 
17:41 < selloso> but I don't get it at all
17:42 < selloso> are there any changes between 0.11.5 and 1.0 I didn't recognized?
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17:57 < selloso> Has nobody the same issue I do?
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18:06 < selloso> Hmm ... is there anyone who reads what I write at the moment? ;)
18:07 < selloso> I've just upgraded my app to beta6 and I just can't access any http parameters anymore, it doesn't matter if get or post ... The only parameters in the request data holder are array(2) {   [0]=>   string(6) "module"   [1]=>   string(6) "action" } 
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18:20 < MrJeep> huomenta
18:20 < MrJeep> a website in development using agavi : http://riobel.lemieuxbedard.ca
18:20 < MrJeep> comments please
18:20 < MrJeep> be honest
18:25 < selloso> looks cool :)
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18:28 < MrJeep> I'm only the programmer with this one
18:28 < MrJeep> and to be honest I don't like the design very much
18:28 < MrJeep> for reasons I can explain
18:28 < MrJeep> but I'd like to know if I could be wrong
18:29 < MrJeep> if my tastes are, on average, wrongs
18:37 < trophaeum> 405k to load the page :/
18:37 < trophaeum> thats sad
18:38 < trophaeum> design i dont dislike but its SLOW AS HELL to load
18:39 < MrJeep> well. there is tons of png
18:40 < MrJeep> + the video
18:40 < trophaeum> optipng -o7 *.png
18:41 < trophaeum> there is no gzip active either
18:41 < trophaeum> on html or js
18:41 < trophaeum> and is moo packer'd?
18:41 < trophaeum> or jsmin'd?
18:41 < MrJeep> not sure yet
18:41 < MrJeep> this is still in development
18:41 < trophaeum> basically, its waaaaaaaaaaay too slow
18:42 < trophaeum> id close the window and find another site
18:42 < MrJeep> oh and it's on the private server here
18:42 < selloso> gotta go
18:42 < selloso> bai
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18:42 < MrJeep> we don't have a big upload rate
18:42 < trophaeum> even if it was on a fast link, i know the sort of load times that would get
18:42 < MrJeep> ok
18:42 < trophaeum> sry, just imo
18:43 < MrJeep> it's ok
18:43 < MrJeep> I'm very open to opinions
18:43 < trophaeum> drop some of the fancier png's for lower quality jpg's and hardly anyone will notice and ull half the filesize of a lot of those stupid fancy images
18:43 < trophaeum> is it ie6 friendly too?
18:43 < MrJeep> yeah
18:43 < MrJeep> look :)
18:43 < trophaeum> png24 and ie6 dont mix nicely
18:43 < MrJeep> just look :P
18:43 < MrJeep> all pngs are working correctly with ie6
18:44 < trophaeum> contact page too?
18:44 < MrJeep> all
18:44 < trophaeum> it looked like the map might go nuts
18:44 < trophaeum> ok
18:44 < trophaeum> great
18:44 < MrJeep> " filesize of a lot of those stupid fancy images"
18:44 < MrJeep> thanks
18:44 < trophaeum> im still cautious of using a png when a jpg will do the same job at nearly the same quality at half the filesize though
18:44 < MrJeep> this is what I was hoping
18:44 < trophaeum> there was 1 that looked like some water raytraced or something
18:45 < trophaeum> i think on the contact page
18:45 < trophaeum> up near the top
18:45 < MrJeep> hum I'll have to look
18:45 < MrJeep> I htink the problem with this site / design
18:45 < MrJeep> 1. it's too fancy
18:45 < MrJeep> too much shadow under everything
18:45 < trophaeum> 1 no i like it, it just needs to be optimized
18:46 < MrJeep> which make it neraly impossible to create very small images
18:46 < trophaeum> i agree some shadows and what not could be torn out for page load times without anything 'bad' done to the design
18:46 < MrJeep> yep
18:46 < MrJeep> then there is too much gradient 
18:46 < MrJeep> but most gradients are made with bevels
18:47 < trophaeum> the 1 i think i useless personally is the 1 on the contact page near the map
18:47 < MrJeep> look inside the products
18:47 < MrJeep> where the products scrolls
18:47 < trophaeum> i didnt click around much due to the speed of it
18:47 < MrJeep> you'll hate the product page ('which is "produits" by the way)
18:47 < MrJeep> if speed is your concern
18:48 < trophaeum> haha
18:48 < trophaeum> we all know that sites that load faster make us get more into the site
18:48 < MrJeep> on 'Espace' choose 'Salle debain'
18:48 < trophaeum> if we have to click....wait.....click.....wait...... u get bored and give up
18:48 < MrJeep> yeah I'm not arguing 
18:48 < MrJeep> I 100% agree with you
18:49 < trophaeum> good luck in convincing them the same
18:50 < MrJeep> anyway, tell me if you feel the same about this design
18:50 < trophaeum> fwiw, 9:1 compression on the frontpage when enabling gzip, thatll make a big diff to the page load times
18:51 < MrJeep> I think the usability has been done carelessly
18:52 < MrJeep> same goes with "page standards"
18:52 < MrJeep> for a big design with a lots of shadow
18:52 < trophaeum> i think without it being in english i can answer that question :)
18:52 < trophaeum> can = cant
18:52 < MrJeep> it will be in english someday
18:52 < MrJeep> but the product navigation, from my point of view
18:52 < MrJeep> is not very usable
18:53 < MrJeep> since it took me at least a day to fully understand how I would program it
18:53 < MrJeep> it's like
18:53 < MrJeep> you choose a product by space (kitchen..) or style or type or collection
18:54 < MrJeep> if you choose by space or style then you have to choose a collection
18:54 < MrJeep> and then you see products
18:54 < MrJeep> you see something you like and you don't bookmark it
18:54 < MrJeep> it's gone
18:54 < MrJeep> can't find it anymore
18:55 < MrJeep> but I'm a big fan of make things simple
18:55 < trophaeum> im a big fan of seo so what i do and what the normal person does are completely different :)
18:55 < MrJeep> hehehe
18:56 < MrJeep> anyway, right now It seem that I'm the one being awfully critical
18:56 < trophaeum> shouldnt that be the clients duty?
18:56 < MrJeep> my standards are probably too high I like ugly things :
18:57 < MrJeep> client like it
18:57 < MrJeep> well, from what they saw on the .psd
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18:57 < trophaeum> theyll change their mind when you dig out an old dialup connection and force them to see what its like on dialup
18:57 < MrJeep> hehe
18:58 < trophaeum> i had a specific squid/qos setup at one point to fake dialup performance
18:58 < trophaeum> change the proxy to the different ip and instantly it was equiv of dialup
18:58 < MrJeep> is there some kind of plugins to do that ?
18:58 < trophaeum> whoa boy was that fun
18:58 < trophaeum> squid has.... whats it call them
18:59 < trophaeum> something about buckets
18:59 < trophaeum> delay pools
18:59 < trophaeum> sorry
19:00 < MrJeep> thnx i'll take a look
19:01 < trophaeum> i used to use it at one point to throttle a seperate subnet i had that was 'public internet access' (think internet cafe) so i could still do stuff fast and they thought it was fast enough so they never complained
19:01 < trophaeum> little did they know that there were 8 computers sharing 24k/s max combined bandwidth
19:02 < MrJeep> lol !
19:03 < trophaeum> it was told if its a cache hit send at full speed, if its a miss, 24k/s max for that subnet, screw em
19:03 < trophaeum> :)
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21:22 < MrJeep> is there a way to get the reference of the view in the template ?
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00:36 < Wombert> 375: - hubbard.freenode.net Message of the Day - 
00:36 < Wombert> 372: - Massive thanks to Carnegie Mellon University (http://www.cmu.edu) and 
00:36 < Wombert> 372: - the CMU Computer Club for sponsoring this server!
00:37 < Wombert> 372: - 
00:37 < Wombert> 372: - Hubbard, Lafayette Ronald [1911 - 1986]. Was an american Sci-Fi writer, 
00:37 < Wombert> 372: - perhaps more famed for devising Dianetics and Scientology.
00:37 < Wombert> ze fuck?
00:37 < Wombert> MrJeep: $view
00:37 < Wombert> WHERE IS MIEK
00:37 < Wombert> bai guise
00:37  * Wombert &
00:40 < bobbytek2> Wombert: chill okay
00:40 < bobbytek2> And please don't flood the channel
00:40 < bobbytek2> Thanks again
00:40 < Wombert> ITS MY CHANNEL
00:40 < Wombert> :>
00:40 < impl> lolol
00:40 < Wombert> impl: nah srsly, what gives?
00:40  * bobbytek2 * ChanServ sets mode: +o bobbytek2
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00:40 < Wombert> I mean, CoS in ur serverz reading ur messagez
00:40 < Wombert> or wat
00:41 < impl> Anonymous should sponsor fawkes.freenode.net
00:41 < impl> :>
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01:08 < bobbytek2> Thank god
01:08 < bobbytek2> I'm sick of that guy flooding me out of my house and home
01:09 < impl> haha :>
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04:14 < horros> Huomenta.
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06:56 < radu> huomenta anyone
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07:17 < selloso> Huomenta everbody
07:19 < radu> huomenta to you to
07:19 < radu> :)
07:21 < selloso> I've just upgraded my app to beta6 and I just can't access any http parameters anymore, it doesn't matter if get or post ... The only parameters in the request data holder are array(2) {   [0]=>   string(6) "module"   [1]=>   string(6) "action" }  
07:22 < radu> Lucky you
07:22 < radu> :D
07:23 < radu> I'm upgrading to beta6 now and the things look ugly :)
07:23 < radu> I mean ... you got far
07:24 < radu> have you used ezc templating in your app?
07:26 < selloso> no, I didn't and I never heard of it so far ;)
07:26 < selloso> I'm using PHPTAL and ordinary PHP templates
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07:27 < radu> oh.. lucky ypu again
07:27 < radu> *you :)
07:28 < selloso> oh gee, well, I did hear of it but I didn't notice that ezc could stand for ezComponents
07:28 < selloso> what's wrong with your app?
07:29 < horros> selloso: Have you validated the parameters?
07:29 < horros> beta6 defaults to strict valication, iirc.
07:30 < selloso> no I didn't validate them
07:33 < selloso> I didn't care about validation so far
07:33 < selloso> :-D
07:33 < selloso> Okay, I will have a look at the sample app :)
07:34 < selloso> thanks a lot
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07:40 < selloso> till next time, tata
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08:51 < _cheerios> huomenta
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10:46 < nfq_> Huomenta
10:46 < nfq_> wonder if any can help with this odd Agavi Exception I am getting: SQLSTATE[HY000] [2002] Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)
10:54 < radu> are you sure it's a agavi problem?
10:54 < radu> is the mysql server started?
10:56 < nfq_> radu: definitely.. there is another site on the same server, which is running perfectly
10:56 < radu> and can you locate a file called mysql.sock in your /tmp folder?
10:56 < nfq_> It probably isn't an Agavi problem but still strange
10:57 < radu> http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/762/solve-cant-connect-to-local-mysql-server-through-socket-tmpmysqlsock/
10:57 < radu> :) this might help
10:57 < nfq_> radu: thanks!!!
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10:58 < radu> horros: are you still here?
10:58 < radu> nfq_: np
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11:14 < radu> does anyone know how to bypass the request data ($rd) validation?
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12:22 < liutis> radu, mayby isSimple return true
12:27 < radu> liutis: isSimple returns if the View's execute functions should get executed
12:27 < radu> :)
12:28 < liutis> :)
12:30 < Macen> handleError ??
12:31 < radu> earlier today  horros said something
12:31 < bleachy1> isSimple determines whether the actions validate* and execute* functions are called. If isSimple returns true, action validation and execution are bypassed and the default view is executed. radu: do you want to know how to skip the validate step, or how to prevent request data from being stripped from $rd?
12:31 < radu> well
12:32 < radu> I want to see all the params in the $rd
12:32 < radu> as it is now .. all I'm getting is module and action
12:32 < bleachy1> So, you may need to set the validation mode to 'conditional' in factories.xml
12:34 < bleachy1> there are 3 modes for validation: 'relaxed' lets all data through no matter what, 'conditional' lets data through if either it has no validator defined or one is defined and validation passes....and 'strict' (which is what i expect is set now) which only lets data through if a validator is defined and validation passes
12:35 < Macen> $this->context->getRequest()->getParameters() ??
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12:44 < radu> bleachy1: that's the right answer, thanks mate, you're my hero for today :D
12:45 < bleachy1> cool :) but remember that it is best to use conditional for development and strict for production environments. 'strict' is the safest mode so best to define validators for all request data you need in an action
12:45 < radu> yeah, but unfortunatelly I'm developing an existing application
12:45 < radu> and ... it already has like 10-15 modules
12:46 < bleachy1> haha - i know the feeling ;)
12:46 < radu> and rsight now I'm upgrading the agavi to 1.0beta6
12:46 < radu> :)
12:47 < radu> perhaps in the future ... when there will be time we'll look into it and define the validators for all the data in there
12:47 < radu> but for now ...  conditional will do
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13:24 < _cheerios> anyone used http://www.lighthouseapp.com/ ?
13:35 < MrJeep> thnx wombert
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13:44 < CIA-10> dominik * r3441 /branches/1.0/src/validator/AgaviValidationManager.class.php: 
13:44 < CIA-10> fix getFailedFields calling a non existant method
13:44 < CIA-10> refs #785
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14:15 < MrJeep> is there an easy way with agavi to enable gzip compression ?
14:17 < trophaeum> MrJeep, doing it at a webserver level instead of php level gives better results for me personally, im sure therell be arguments otherwise though, mod_deflate in apache2, mod_gzip in apache1 or use nginx as a reverse proxy and have it compress content based on content-type headers transparently (my preference is nginx)
14:26 < MrJeep> hum
14:27 < MrJeep> where do I transfer the RequestDataHolder object to a StreamTemplateLayer
14:28 < MrJeep> tm ro and so on are transferred correctly
14:28 < MrJeep> but not the request_data
14:30 < MrJeep> http://pastie.org/342283
14:41 < MrJeep> v-dogg: sorry to disturb you but.. do you know how the request_data object is passed to the renderer ?
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15:03 < MrJeep> anyone ?
15:03 < MrJeep> impl
15:04 < MrJeep> ?
15:17 < MrJeep> ???????
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15:32 < v-dogg> MrJeep: yes
15:32 < v-dogg> as it's accessible via $rd-> in the template it must be available in the renderer too
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18:26 < _cheerios> jee
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18:36 < bobbytek2> How can I determine if a date string represents tomorrow?
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18:39 < bobbytek2> I super suck at php
18:39 < MrJeep> with timestamp ?
18:39 < bobbytek2> ideally, the tersest way
18:39 < bobbytek2> :)
18:40 < bobbytek2> $tomorrow = mktime(0,0,0,date("m"),date("d")+1,date("Y"));
18:40 < bobbytek2> date("Y/m/d", $tomorrow) == $date_string ?
18:40 < MrJeep> I htink this would fail if the current is 30
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18:40 < MrJeep> current day *
18:40 < bobbytek2> would it not increment the day?
18:41 < bobbytek2> and be smart?
18:41 < MrJeep> yeah, to 31 (in a 30 days month)
18:41 < MrJeep> or to 32 in a 31 days month
18:41 < bobbytek2> sadness
18:41 < bobbytek2> So what's the recommended way?
18:41 < MrJeep> hum
18:41 < bobbytek2> convert to time ?
18:41 < MrJeep> $dt1= new DateTime();
18:42 < MrJeep> $dt2 = new DateTime()
18:42 < MrJeep> $dt2->add('1 day');
18:42 < MrJeep> and there is a method to compare or soemthing
18:42 < E_mE> huomenta
18:42 < MrJeep> I think you should look at the datetime object
18:42 < bobbytek2> but I have a string though :(
18:42  * E_mE feels pretty foul :(
18:44 < MrJeep> oh you can
18:44 < MrJeep> $dt1 = new DateTime($yourString)
18:44 < MrJeep> the object will parse it
18:44 < bobbytek2> oh, nice thanks :)
18:51 < bobbytek2> MrJeep: What about: http://www.pastie.org/342502
18:52 < MrJeep> yeah taht would work too :)
18:53 < bobbytek2> I just don't know which way is best
18:53 < bobbytek2> I can always find away, but it will most likely be crappy
18:53 < bobbytek2> Still don't have the comfortability with php yet :/
18:54 < bleachy1> ...or return strtotime(date('Y/m/d') . '+1 day') == strtotime($dateStr);
18:55 < bobbytek2> oh, I like that much better :)
18:55 < bobbytek2> Thanks bleachy1!
18:57 < bleachy1> actually you can even do return strtotime('tomorrow') == strtotime($dateStr); i think
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18:57 < bleachy1> try it though
18:57 < bobbytek2> oh, nice!
18:58 < bobbytek2> what about figuring out the number of days between 2 dates?
18:59 < bobbytek2> http://www.pastie.org/342502
18:59 < bobbytek2> Right now I'm using that 
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19:10 < bobbytek2> btw bleachy1, your solution works great!
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02:49 < MugeSo> How should I set validation error in validate*() method of action?
02:49 < MugeSo> AgaviValidationManager::setError, which I used before , seems deprecated in 1.0.0 :(
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05:43 < v-dogg> huomenta
06:12 < MugeSo> huomenta
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06:58 < radu> huomenta 
06:58 < radu> to all of you that are not sleeping
06:58 < radu> :)
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08:51 < horros> Huomenta.
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08:52 < _cheerios> huomenta
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09:17 < radu> question
09:17 < radu> is there any sample application 
09:17 < radu> besides the ... sample applciation in the archive?
09:17 < radu> which only has 2 modules default and disabled
09:18 < radu> what I mean is a complex one which uses beta6?
09:18 < horros> radu: Depends on what you mean by "complex".
09:18 < radu> one using slots
09:18 < radu> for example
09:19 < horros> Look at the tutorial.
09:24 < liutis> in 1.0.0 how i can set code templates for agavi when creating actions like "templates.directory = ${project.directory.dev.code_templates}" not working every time default ones is generated
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09:27 < v-dogg> templates.directory=full/path/to/templates
09:28 < liutis> trying trying 
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09:39 < liutis> i placed all code templates in folder buil.properties hase string templates.directory=/var/www/www-xiinclude/dev/code_templates/modules/Bandom  but no effect, all time default ones, what im missing?
09:40 < liutis> i placed all code templates in folder, and module Bandom hase build.properties file
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09:43 < liutis> mm, adt hase egzample of it
09:52 < v-dogg> liutis: templates.directory=/var/www/www-xiinclude/dev/code_templates
10:03 < liutis> what structure must be of code_templates directory? still no results but in this dir i got:  ls dev/code_templates/     Action.class.php.tmpl  actions/   View.class.php.tmpl  
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10:04 < liutis> build.properties in Module Bandom is loaded when creating actions
10:08 < v-dogg> liutis: run "agavi system-template-copy-all" 
10:09 < v-dogg> and then templates.directory=/full/path/to/where/you/just/copied/the/templates
10:21 < liutis> v-dogg, thanx now starts to work !!! jeeeeeeeee
10:22 < liutis> i was trying to use code_templates and structure from 0.11 so it fail
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19:53 < hoffigk_> hi wombert
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21:03 < CIA-10> felix * r3442 /branches/1.0/test/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
21:03 < CIA-10> testcase for #962
21:03 < CIA-10> refs #962
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21:29 < CIA-10> david * r3443 /branches/1.0/CHANGELOG: missing CHANGELOG entry for [3441], closes #963 and refs #785
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21:46 < Wombert> sorry hoffigk_ 
21:46 < Wombert> gotta run
21:46 < Wombert> laters
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09:31 < LBO_> huomenta
09:31 < LBO_> what is better approach when model return empty result?
09:32 < LBO_> choose "Empty" view
09:33 < LBO_> or check that in "Success" view and change template which "no result" message re forwarding to 404?
09:33 < LBO_> or check that in "Success" view and change template with "no result" message or forwarding to 404?
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09:45 < Fastly> morning folk, does anyone know how to access an uploaded file?
09:45 < Fastly> e.g. data that would usually be in $_FILE?
09:49 < LBO_> AgaviWebRequestDatahHolder::getFiles()
09:52 < Fastly> great, thanks LBO_ !
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10:12 < LBO_> Wombert - what do u do when model return empty result?
10:12 < LBO_> Do u have "Empty" View for that
10:12 < LBO_> or chceck that in "Success"?
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10:39 < _cheerios> huomentaah!
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10:55 < _cheerios> quality stage show.. :p Bat & Ryyd - Ehtaa Tavaraa (1990) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjNnSU_zto8
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11:26 < _cheerios> bleh. net died for a moment. scary.
11:30 < LBO_> :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xokylxD78o0
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11:44 < _cheerios> enjoying that would require a few beers and being there i think
12:29 < _cheerios> heh @ recursion speed in php (fib)
12:44 < LBO_> so, u haven't seen their curling interpretation :)
12:45 < LBO_> he he
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12:46 < _cheerios> "Here in Portland, OR, we have already started to use LED street lights. And now that we're in a snow storm, these lights aren't working. LEDs don't produce heat (that's why they're efficient). By not producing heat, they don't melt the snow away from them. So all the LED streetlights in Portland are covered in snow and cannot be seen." *g*
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13:02 < _cheerios> hmm, side of an antec case doubles as a scrum board
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13:26 < _cheerios> suddenly as xmas nears, it feels 2008 went by so fast
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17:16 < _cheerios> "Lisp is a venus flytrap of a blackhole delivered by John McCarthy an alien from outer space sent to stop good programmers from Actually Programming" :)
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20:18 < hashBROWN> _cheerios: shouldn't the street lights face down that way the snow won't build up on them?
20:19 < _cheerios> that would likely help some :)
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20:21 < _cheerios> the designs for the NY lamps seemed very bare
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08:24 < _cheerios> huomenta! "finally" seems i've been bit by the flu
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12:45 < _cheerios> i'm being NOM NOM NOM'd. being sick sucks :|
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13:52 < Wombert> nom?
14:09 < ttj> Nomnomnom.
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14:30 < mach3_domke> Huomenta
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14:36 < marklar|omni> wtf
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15:39 < _cheerios> "Cmon Google, you can do better than just smear that cheesy colored logo on a piece of shit and pawn it as the Ultimate Web Experience" :p
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16:47 < bobbytek> huomenta
16:48 < bobbytek> How can I get rid of such warnings: PHP Strict Standards:  date(): It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings. Please use the date.timezone setting, the TZ environment variable or the date_default_timezone_set() function. In case you used any of those methods and you are still getting this warning, you most likely misspelled the timezone identifier. We selected 'America/New_York' for 'EST/-5.0/no DST
16:48 < bobbytek> Or should I say, what is the recommended way
16:56 < v-dogg> first stab your server administrator because he hasn't add default timezone into php.ini
16:56 < v-dogg> and then, if it still not added to the php.ini, use date_default_timezone_set('America/Los_Angeles');
16:57 < v-dogg> http://fi.php.net/manual/en/function.date-default-timezone-set.php
16:58 < bobbytek> v-dogg: you rock!
16:58 < bobbytek> where would I set that programmatically?
16:58 < bobbytek> I'm going to set in php.ini, but I'm just curious
17:12 < bobbytek> I'm also getting this:
17:12 < bobbytek> Debug Warning: /smn/libs/agavi/util/AgaviToolkit.class.php line 172 - rmdir(C:\Documents and Settings\btiernay\workspace\smn\app\cache\config): Directory not empty
17:12 < bobbytek> Is there anyway to avoid that?
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17:19 < bobbytek> ping
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17:26 < E_mE> pong
17:26 < bobbytek> zing
17:33 < bobbytek> Anyone using Zend Studio?
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17:47 < v-dogg> bobbytek: config.php is probably the place for stuff like that
17:50 < bobbytek> coo, thanks :)
17:52 < bobbytek> what about the agavi remove dir warning
17:52 < bobbytek> how can I remove that?
17:55 < v-dogg> agavi clears the cache recursively as far as I remember so what warning probably means that agavi isn't able to clear the directory before trying to remove it
17:56 < v-dogg> and that is most likely a file access/security problem
17:59 < Wombert> it doesn't rmdir that one
17:59 < Wombert> where are you calling that?
17:59 < Wombert> ah no
17:59 < Wombert> you have probably added "config" to version control or so...
18:00 < Wombert> yeah, that's likely it
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18:03 < bobbytek> it does a @rmdir
18:03 < bobbytek> I thought the @ should suppress that?
18:04 < bobbytek> I don't think this is a security thing, it's a warning
18:04 < bobbytek> Debug Warning: /smn/libs/agavi/util/AgaviToolkit.class.php line 172 - rmdir(C:\Documents and Settings\btiernay\workspace\smn\app\cache\config): Directory not empty
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18:11 < Wombert> bobbytek: 
18:11 < Wombert> ...
18:11 < Wombert> [18:59] Wombert: you have probably added "config" to version control or so...
18:11 < Wombert> [19:00] Wombert: yeah, that's likely it
18:26 < bobbytek> oh, so you think it's read only then?
18:27 < bobbytek> config isn't typically empty though
19:04 < Wombert> read what I'm saying
19:04 < Wombert> ...
19:04 < bobbytek> I did
19:04 < bobbytek> ... doesn' mean much to me
19:04 < Wombert> you added "config" or even more elements inside "cache" to version control
19:04 < Wombert> which you're not supposed to do
19:04 < Wombert> -...
19:04 < bobbytek> I need to add cache to version control or else agavi will bomb
19:05 < v-dogg> ?
19:05 < bobbytek> (nothing else is in version control)
19:05 < bobbytek> http://ca.php.net/rmdir
19:05 < bobbytek> In general this dir won't be empty because that's where agavi generates files
19:05 < v-dogg> everything under cache/ is excluded in your version control?
19:05 < bobbytek> How do you figure this has any thing to do with version control?
19:06 < bobbytek> v-dogg: correct
19:06 < bobbytek> except for cache itself
19:06 < v-dogg> because agavi removes all the files in the directory except .svn etc.
19:06 < bobbytek> I have a .cvsignore file in there
19:06 < bobbytek> Could that be why?
19:06 < v-dogg> yep
19:06 < v-dogg> I guess
19:07 < v-dogg> but, like I said earlier, agavi tries to clear the directory recursively before calling rmdir()
19:07 < v-dogg> for some reason it is not able to remove some files
19:08 < bobbytek> if cache doesn't exist, will agavi create it?
19:09 < v-dogg> no
19:09 < v-dogg> so you do need to have it in version control
19:09 < v-dogg> but nothing else
19:09 < Wombert> no
19:09 < Wombert> ...
19:09 < bobbytek> okay, that doesn't work so well with cvs
19:09 < Wombert> jesus
19:10 < bobbytek> so who is lieing?
19:10 < v-dogg> I can't imagine you being the first one to use CVS... there must be another way
19:10 < v-dogg> umm but... um... 
19:10 < Wombert> you need a .cvsignore inside cache
19:10 < Wombert> not inside config/
19:10 < Wombert> ...
19:11 < v-dogg> yes, I was just coming to that :)
19:11 < bobbytek> dude, that implies a CVS folder
19:11 < bobbytek> which means a non empty dir
19:11 < Wombert> no, bobbytek 
19:11 < Wombert> you have something inside cache/config
19:11 < Wombert> not cache/
19:13 < Wombert> my guess is that "config" is added to CVS
19:13 < Wombert> you need to only add the "cache" folder to version control
19:13 < Wombert> not anything inside it
19:13 < bobbytek> okay, I just deleted config
19:13 < bobbytek> let me check
19:14 < bobbytek> I f'n hate cvs
19:14 < bobbytek> I wish we were using svn for this project
19:14 < bobbytek> Oh well, at least it's not vss
19:15 < bobbytek> my god this is taking forever to run
19:16 < v-dogg> what is?
19:16 < bobbytek> cli agavi
19:16 < bobbytek> inside of zend studio
19:17 < bobbytek> I'm pretty sure that's the problem :/
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19:20 < bobbytek> Okay, seems to have fixed my issue.  I guess cache/config/ dir must have been checked in, but the generated config files certainly were not
19:20 < bobbytek> That's for your help all :)
19:21 < bobbytek> It kinda sucks though since agavi will delete my cache/.cvsignore file each time it runs :/
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19:24 < bobbytek> I suppose there is nothing I can do to stop that eh?  
19:24 < bobbytek> Making the file readonly doesn't help:
19:24 < bobbytek> Debug Warning: /smn/libs/agavi/util/AgaviToolkit.class.php line 174 - unlink(C:\Documents and Settings\btiernay\workspace\smn\app\cache\.cvsignore): Permission denied
19:24  * Wombert ponders
19:24 < Wombert> I guess we could add that to the exclude list
19:25 < Wombert> I believe you can simply throw the .cvsignore file into app/, though
19:25 < Wombert> and adjust the entries accordingly
19:26 < bobbytek> oh, didn't know that
19:26 < bobbytek> so something like cache/config?
19:26 < Wombert> I'm just guessing; never used CVS :)
19:26 < Wombert> nah, cache/*
19:26 < bobbytek> right
19:26 < Wombert> bobbytek: but while you're fiddling with this
19:26 < Wombert> try add it to the AgaviToolkit blacklist, it's around that line
19:26 < Wombert> *adding
19:27 < Wombert> let me know if that works
19:27 < Wombert> the other entries there are just directories, so not sure if a filename will work
19:27 < bobbytek> k
19:31 < bobbytek> $ignores = array('.', '..', '.svn', 'CVS', '.cvsignore', '_darcs', '.arch-params', '.monotone', '.bzr');
19:31 < bobbytek> seems to work
19:31 < bobbytek> but let me just confirm when this thing stops running :)
19:31 < bobbytek> So slow in the id
19:31 < bobbytek> *ide
19:33 < bobbytek> Wombert: FYI parent/child is not legal in .cvsignore
19:33 < bobbytek> so this is really the only way to get this to work
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19:38 < bobbytek> Seems to work :)
19:38 < bobbytek> Wombert: Are you going to submit a ticket for that?
19:39 < Wombert> yup bobbytek 
19:39 < Wombert> will do :)
19:39 < bobbytek> k :)
19:42 < Wombert> laters
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19:44 < _cheerios> first cvs user in like two years, heh
19:45 < bobbytek> really, wow
19:45 < bobbytek> didn't realize it was that dead
19:46 < bobbytek> Tried to get my boss to use svn, but wasn't convinced of the payoff
19:46 < bobbytek> I use svn on open source projects though, and I have to say, I like it MUCH better :)
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20:19 < _cheerios> fucking hell. sick and 05 wakeup to fly to fucking sweden of all places.
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21:30 < saracen> Is there a way to disable the agavi warning about having to upgrade to 5.2.8? It isnt in the ubuntu repositories yet and I'm using 5.2.6, wasn't only 5.2.7 the problem?
21:30 < saracen> In regards to PHP.
21:33 < impl> What warning is this?
21:34 < impl> saracen: That's for a different reason: http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=46313
21:35 < impl> saracen: The solution is to simply turn off magic_quotes_gpc
21:39 < saracen> impl: "For security reasons, PHP 5.2.8 or later is required with magic_quotes_gpc enabled."
21:40 < impl> Yes
21:40 < impl> See the two lines following the question for the answer
21:40 < saracen> ha, fine. I tried it and it worked
21:40 < saracen> YOU WIN
21:40 < saracen> HAPPY NOW?
21:41 < impl> I don't like how that's worded, though
21:41  * impl fixes
21:41 < saracen> Aye :P
21:42 < bobbytek> Agavi rocks, ya!
21:43  * bobbytek screams "Huomenta" at the top of his lungs!
21:44 < CIA-10> impl * r3444 /branches/0.11/src/request/AgaviWebRequest.class.php: Reword exception message for [3417], refs #953
21:45 < impl> saracen: http://trac.agavi.org/changeset/3444
21:48 < CIA-10> impl * r3445 /branches/1.0/src/request/AgaviWebRequest.class.php: merge [3430:3444/branches/0.11]
21:48 < saracen> Can't agavi just disable magic quotes? (so it becomes per application) - Lucky for me I don't have any webapps on my server which requires it to be enabled. But some others might.
21:49 < impl> No, for various reasons that Wombert will be happy to explain to you
21:50 < saracen> I'll just take your word for it then.
21:50 < saracen> Unless of course it will include a slideshow
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23:35 < Seldaek> anyooone,
23:35 < Seldaek> ?
23:35 < Seldaek> I've stuff
bleh
23:36 < Seldaek> and I get a relax ng validation failed bleh
23:36 < Seldaek> I love how undescriptive xml parsers always are when they crap themselves :/
23:37 < Seldaek> Line 0: Extra element validators in interleave and a few others that say nothing about a 
, but if I remove it it validates
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23:38 < Wombert> stuff<br/>bleh
23:38 < Wombert> this is xml, dude
23:38 < Wombert> :p
23:38 < Seldaek> yeah
23:38 < Seldaek> and that shows 
 literally in my page
23:38 < Seldaek> so it's not good either dude :p
23:38 < Wombert> or bleh]]>
23:38 < Wombert> oh yeah it'll do that
23:38 < Seldaek> same thing
23:38 < Wombert> that's an FPF thing
23:38 < Seldaek> I want a fucking break 
23:38 < Wombert> no way around it at the moment, I'm afraid
23:38 < Seldaek> gimme a break! :)
23:39 < Seldaek> okay okay.. 
23:39 < Seldaek> Wombert: know if anyone has an openid auth for agavi?
23:39 < Wombert> server?
23:39 < Seldaek> I already asked af ew months back but.. I forgot
23:39 < Seldaek> just the auth part, not the provider part
23:40 < Wombert> uh how's that framework-related :p
23:40 < Wombert> take the zend one or so
23:40 < Seldaek> yeah I know it has nothing to do with agavi itself
23:40 < Seldaek> but I just wanted some clean class
23:40 < Seldaek> not zend if I can avoi
23:40 < Seldaek> d
23:40 < Seldaek> but thanks I'll have  a look
23:41 < Wombert> Seldaek: you could have more than one 
23:41 < Wombert> :)
23:41 < Wombert> I think
23:41 < Wombert> or something in that direction
23:41 < Wombert> if that helps
23:41 < Seldaek> yeah leave that it's okay :p
23:41 < Wombert> oh wait no
23:41 < Wombert> lawl
23:41 < Wombert> there is a feature you can use
23:41 < Wombert> :>>
23:41 < Wombert> haha fantastic
23:42 < Wombert> man it's so retarded that I come up with shit, randomly, and then I forget about it
23:42 < Wombert> http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/1.0/src/filter/AgaviFormPopulationFilter.class.php#L699
23:43 < Wombert> not 100% sure how this works
23:43 < Wombert> but you can make a callback
23:43 < Wombert> that creates the DOMElements
23:43 < Wombert> and then you have full control over it
23:43 < Wombert> here's the catch
23:43 < Wombert> it checks for string first, is_callable second
23:43 < Wombert> that might just not work ;)
23:44 < Wombert> ah
23:44 < Wombert> apparently, it can be done
23:44 < Seldaek> dude it's fine really leave it :p
23:44 < Wombert> for markup
23:45 < Wombert> make it
23:45 < Wombert> MyClass
23:45 < Wombert> zeMethod
23:45 < Wombert> it'll call that
23:45 < Wombert> and then you simply won't do htmlspecialchars() on it
23:45 < Seldaek> yueah but I prefer having it on one line than creating a stupid callback :p
23:47 < Wombert> could probably be made an option :>
23:47 < Seldaek> or it could just take anything as goddamn html? :p
23:47 < Wombert> and then morons end up with broken pages etc
23:47 < Seldaek> or at least not mess up with the  nodes
23:47 < Wombert> been there, done that
23:47 < Wombert> there's people who use user data as error messages
23:47 < Wombert> and stuff
23:48 < Wombert> nowai
23:48 < Wombert> :<
23:48 < Wombert> that can't be done
23:48 < Wombert> this is xml
23:48 < Wombert> there is no way to determine what it was :p
23:48 < Wombert> you cannot even tell the difference between  and  in DOM
23:48 < Seldaek> how can you use user data in the xml ? 
23:48 < Wombert> eh?
23:49 < Seldaek> well you say user data as error messages
23:49 < Seldaek> anyway doesn't matter :p
23:50 < Seldaek> how do I get the user object again ? or just check if the guy is authed
23:50 < Wombert> AgaviContext::getUser()
23:51 < Wombert> ::isAuthenticated()
23:52 < Seldaek> danke
23:52 < Seldaek> I'm so rusty now
23:52 < Seldaek> but I have to finish this goddamn project
23:52 < Seldaek> well at least bring it to an usable state
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06:26 < Wombert_> huomenta
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06:43 < v-dogg> huomenta
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07:53 < Wombert> you @work today/tomorrow, v-dogg?
07:53 < Wombert> just 27 people in here; it sure seems like everyone took mon/tue off
08:04 < v-dogg> I @work 24/7/365 :)
08:05 < v-dogg> but I'm about to leave ze office in couple of hours and won't come back this year if possible
08:10 < Wombert> <:
08:10 < Wombert> office ->
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08:35 < mach3_domke> Huomenta
08:35 < mach3_domke> Huomenta
08:35 < mach3_domke> i have an error with my Application! I transfared my app on my webserver and i got this error Message: Fatal error: Configuration file "/home/appdev.mach3.de/htdocs/sites/pressWeb/app/config/autoload.xml" does not have a registered handler in /home/appdev.mach3.de/htdocs/library/agavi/core/Agavi.class.php on line 63
08:35 < mach3_domke> i have an error with my Application! I transfared my app on my webserver and i got this error Message: Fatal error: Configuration file "/home/appdev.mach3.de/htdocs/sites/pressWeb/app/config/autoload.xml" does not have a registered handler in /home/appdev.mach3.de/htdocs/library/agavi/core/Agavi.class.php on line 63
08:41 < horros> Huomenta.
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08:55 < tlkshadow> Can Someone Kick MACH3_domke because thats me. My Firefox crashed and i have to choose another name!
08:55 < tlkshadow> Can Someone Kick MACH3_domke because thats me. My Firefox crashed and i have to choose another name!
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08:56 < mach3_domke> now everything is ok
08:56 < mach3_domke> now everything is ok
08:57 < v-dogg> except that every line is duplicated
08:57 < v-dogg> mach3_domke: use some real IRC client 
08:57 < graste> or use opera as a browser - got an IRC client included ^^
08:58 < graste> a simple one of course =)
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09:11 < mach3_domke> v-dogg i cant use an real IRC client because my company blocked all Ports
09:11 < mach3_domke> v-dogg i cant use an real IRC client because my company blocked all Ports
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09:12 < v-dogg> mach3_domke: get a ssh shell and run irc in screen there
09:13 < Wombert> huomenta again
09:13 < mach3_domke> i have now started my FF IRC
09:13 < fnordfish> huomenta
09:14 < mach3_domke> i have this error: Fatal error: Configuration file ".....ites/pressWeb/app/config/autoload.xml" does not have a registered handler in /home/appdev.mach3.de/htdocs/library/agavi/core/Agavi.class.php on line 63
09:14 < mach3_domke> some ideas please :)
09:16 < fnordfish> mach3_domke: does your config_handlers.xml says 
09:16 < Wombert> yup, that's the problem
09:16 < Wombert> good one, fnordfish 
09:16  * Wombert hugs fnordfish 
09:17 < fnordfish> :)
09:17 < mach3_domke> yes
09:17 < fnordfish> hm
09:17 < Wombert> lies
09:17 < Wombert> :<
09:17 < Wombert> pastebin it, mach3_domke 
09:17 < Wombert> :)
09:17 < mach3_domke> 
09:18 < Wombert> is it agavi 1.0?
09:18 < Wombert> I thought you were using 0.11 :)
09:18 < mach3_domke> no
09:18 < Wombert> see, that is the crappy thing about XML Schema
09:18 < mach3_domke> i am using the new Beta version
09:18 < Wombert> you cannot even define what the root element of the doc must be
09:18 < Wombert> oh
09:18 < mach3_domke> and local it is working
09:19 < Wombert> mach3_domke: the parent thing
09:19 < Wombert> is that surely a 1.0 config
09:19 < Wombert> yeah it would have to be
09:19 < Wombert> can you paste*bin*(!) the entire file
09:19 < mach3_domke> ok
09:21 < mach3_domke> http://pastebin.ca/1291356
09:22 < Wombert> the zend and ezc setup should probably be done in app/config.php
09:22 < Wombert> the rest (ini_set, error_reporting and include_path) are fine there
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09:23 < mach3_domke> changed
09:23 < Wombert> my guess is that the server doesn't have ext/xsl
09:23 < Wombert> so you cannot use the "old" configs
09:24 < Wombert> you need to update autoload.xml to the new, "real" 1.0 format
09:24 < mach3_domke> hmm i have to ask the provider
09:24 < Wombert> which simply looks similar to the config_handlers one
09:24 < Wombert> although that shouldn't give the error message you pasted
09:25 < E_mE> i've made half my office ill heheheh
09:26 < horros> People who come in to the office sick need to get a royal beating.
09:26 < E_mE> my boss even tutted when i  called in sick on friday.. proberbly thinking i was skiving, now his in bed... the fucker!
09:26 < horros> I say 500 lashes of the cat o' nine tails!
09:26 < E_mE> well i started to feel ill on tuesday afternoon
09:26 < E_mE> horros: was unaware that i had contaminated the office until today.. and the fever seems to be going round everywhere hehe
09:27 < mach3_domke> the server is an lighthttp
09:27  * E_mE coughs in horros direction ;)
09:27  * horros gives E_mE 250 lashes of the cat o' nine tails
09:27 < mach3_domke> maybe this made some problems with routing or?!
09:27  * E_mE coughs equal times in return
09:28 < horros> A week and a half and I've managed to stay within the statistics: ill one time per year.
09:28 < E_mE> my partner works in a nursey, so she gets snotty little kids spluttering all over her, rather annoying
09:29 < horros> Ick.
09:30 < fnordfish> mach3_domke: routing is not active at the point where your error occurs 
09:32 < fnordfish> your "libraries/agavi/config/defaults/config_handlers.xml" is ok? (first two defs are for the autoloads)
09:32 < mach3_domke> fnordfish Look: >	http://pastebin.ca/1291356
09:33 < mach3_domke> but it is working offline fine
09:33 < mach3_domke> -f
09:41 < Wombert> you need to update autoload.xml
09:41 < Wombert> try that first
09:42 < Wombert> although the error is odd; it indicates that %core.system_config_dir%/config_handlers.xml could not be found
09:46 < mach3_domke> but y it works on my localhost
09:46 < mach3_domke> makes no sence
09:46 < Wombert> it does
09:46 < Wombert> the server does not have the xsl extension
09:46 < Wombert> ext/xsl is used for backwards compatibility
09:46 < Wombert> so old configs still work
09:47 < Wombert> we cannot check for ext/xsl, because then people would get random exceptions even if they don't need them
09:47 < mach3_domke> so it will work if i let install the ext/xsl extension
09:47 < Wombert> why don't you simply update the config :p
09:47 < mach3_domke> update for what?
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09:55 < Wombert> mach3_domke: 
09:55 < Wombert> [10:24] Wombert: you need to update autoload.xml to the new, "real" 1.0 format
09:58 < mach3_domke> and where can i read about the "real" 1.0 format?
09:59 < Wombert> [10:24] Wombert: which simply looks similar to the config_handlers one
09:59 < Wombert> :)
09:59 < Wombert> or http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/1.0/samples/app/config/autoload.xml
09:59 < Wombert> or http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/1.0/src/config/defaults/autoload.xml
09:59 < Wombert> :)
10:01 < mach3_domke> ah i understand the prefix ae: is not in the autoload.xml
10:01 < Wombert> autoload.xml is still in the old config format
10:02 < Wombert> with one global namespace shared across all configs
10:03 < mach3_domke> the tracSourceView SUCCKS!!
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10:06 < mach3_domke> where %core.lib_dir% will be set?
10:09 < Wombert> that's set automatically :)
10:09 < Wombert> unless you want to override it, which is probably not a good idea
10:10 < Wombert> you can of course define directives like these yourself
10:10 < mach3_domke> http://pastebin.ca/1291371
10:10 < mach3_domke> better?
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10:12 < Wombert> yeah
10:12 < Wombert> looks better
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10:20 < mach3_domke> my computer crashed
10:20 < mach3_domke> sry
10:20 < mach3_domke> Huomenta again
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13:13 < mib_7vshgv> huomenta 
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14:06 < E_mE> mmm Dubbla Chokladflarn! hugs the channel swedes
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14:13 < bobbytek> huomenta
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14:19 < MrJeep> morning
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14:29 < mach3_domke> v-dogg
14:29 < mach3_domke> ?
14:35 < radut> hey ... does anyone know where I can download bloggie from?
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14:56 < _cheerios> huomenta
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18:00 < MrJeep> Wombert: 
18:00 < MrJeep> are you there ?
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18:06 < _cheerios> [php|architect] The December 2008 issue of php|architect is available
18:07 < _cheerios> Metaprogramming with PHPDoc // UGH
18:11 < CIA-10> david * r3446 /branches/1.0/CHANGELOG: Fixed changelog entry for rephrased ticket, refs #929
18:14 < CIA-10> david * r3447 /branches/1.0/CHANGELOG: Removed changelog entry for a fix for a bug which never was in a release, refs #929 and closes (again) #941
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20:02 < MrJeep> Wombert, are you there ?
20:04 < Wombert> hmm?
20:06 < MrJeep> do you have 2 mins to give me your opinions ?
20:06 < MrJeep> a site we made here using agavi
20:06 < MrJeep> http://riobel.lemieuxbedard.ca
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20:31 < graste> like the design
20:32 < graste> would be nice if the links (top nav, footer etc) would more work like buttons with hover state etc
20:32 < graste> they look like buttons to me
20:32 < graste> but i have to click on the link text
20:32 < graste> minor glitch for me, no worries ;)
20:33 < graste> simple css changes i guess
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23:58 < bobbytek2> http://java.decompiler.free.fr/ rocks@!
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07:05 < radut> huomenta
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07:16 < v-dogg> huomenta
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08:26 < alenoosh> Huomenta
08:27 < alenoosh> I have a problem with templates : I'm using a two layered template in my application , so :
08:28 < alenoosh> I have one template file in app/templates , this template has a part that is for the layer above ( the action's output ) , )
08:30 < alenoosh> my question is that is it possible to have two parts for the above layer : for example one part for the main column and one part for the sidebar ?
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08:39 < alenoosh> :(
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09:01 < v-dogg> alenoosh: im not sure I understood correctly but most likely you need split your action in to two and use slots
09:03 < alenoosh> v-dogg, thanks v-dogg , so I should learn about slots now :)
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09:33 < _cheerios> huomenta
09:41 < _cheerios> ""Police in Finland have made an arrest for car theft based on a DNA sample taken from the blood found inside a mosquito" lol
09:41 < horros> Yes, that was in the news like two weeks ago?
09:42 < horros> Or maybe it was last friday.
09:42 < horros> Huomenta btw
09:43 < _cheerios> no idea, missed it till now
09:43 < horros> Still rather funny :)
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09:44 < fnordfish> Huomenta
09:45 < _cheerios> wow http://www.mojang.com/notch/j4k/l4kd/
09:46 < _cheerios> good old flashlight, darkness, brain eating zombies -combination
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12:37 < _cheerios> uhh. can't even rest peacefully with ppl calling me to takedown content :p
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14:32 < _cheerios> win. two somalis got deported from finland after years and years of crimes. took 3+ years for the courts to make the decision, and even then it was a 3-2 vote in high court. it's a small step, but leaves slight hope that democracy doesn't totally suck.
14:32 < E_mE> huomemnta
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14:46 < MrJeep> good morning !
14:51 < E_mE> any ideas on this error?
14:51 < E_mE> Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to AgaviConfigHandler::orderConfigurations() must be an instance of AgaviConfigValueHolder, null given, called in /Users/jeramy/Workspace/gasworld/app/lib/agavi/1.0b2/config/AgaviValidatorConfigHandler.class.php on line 79 and defined in /Users/jeramy/Workspace/gasworld/app/lib/agavi/1.0b2/config/AgaviConfigHandler.class.php on line 161
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15:02 < bobbytek4> huomenta
15:02 < bobbytek4> hello folks
15:03 < bobbytek4> Anyone have a more idiomatic / succinct way of performing the following: http://www.pastie.org/345543
15:05 < Wombert_> in 5.3, you could use array_filter and stuff with an anonymous function
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15:06 < bobbytek4> array filter with implode maybe?
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15:40 < MrJeep> Wombert: did you have a few minutes yesterday to look at the site I showed ?
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16:18 < v-dogg> E_mE: upgrade to beta 6
16:20 < E_mE> v-dogg: ok
16:23 < v-dogg> hmm... that's not mentioned in the changelog... I thought it was
16:23 < v-dogg> but upgrade anyway. let's hope it'll fix it :)
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16:43 < _cheerios> gaah, "pakkoruotsi" with google using swedish for their pages now that im in sweden; " Resultat 131 - 140 av ungefär 9 650 vid sökning"
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17:46 < bobbytek4> Anyone here use grails before?
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17:54 < LBO_> huomenta :)
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18:55 < _cheerios> bobbytek, know it, read about it, haven't used it.
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19:52 < bobbytek4> I must say, it rocks!
19:53 < bobbytek4> Using it for a new project
19:58 < _cheerios> what's the exciting cool stuff?
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20:04 < bobbytek4> Probably the scaffolding and how simple it is to get going
20:05 < bobbytek4> It's perfect for what I'm doing
20:05 < bobbytek4> It's just better then java dev really
20:05 < bobbytek4> The RoR folks and Agavi dudes know the feeling of the dev :)
20:10 < bobbytek4> Plus, groovy is an awesome language :)
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20:37 < _cheerios> i spose its nice if you want to keep up with some java skills on the side
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20:59 < bobbytek4> As a language, groovy is awesome
20:59 < bobbytek4> I'd say pretty close to ruby in terms of features
20:59 < bobbytek4> but with the ability to tap into java libs, it's way better
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08:53 < _cheerios> huomenta
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09:17 < E_mE> merry xmas channlers and channelettes
09:30 < v-dogg> huomenta
09:32 < horros> huomenta
09:32 < horros> riisipuuro = in the belly <3
10:11 < _cheerios> "peace, brothers & sisters!", from Turku!
10:17 < _cheerios> merb + ror merge? o_O
10:23 < E_mE> _cheerios: what is merb?
10:24 < E_mE> dont worry, found out
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17:43 < jake> Anyone have an example of a custom global filter?
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07:50 < v-dogg> huomenta
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09:36 < hashZILLA> merry xmas
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09:47 < alenoosh> Huomenta
09:48 < alenoosh> v-dogg, do you remember the question I asked two days ago related to templates , I solved it by using slots , as you suggested me , I should thank you alot :)
09:48 < alenoosh> slots are cool
10:04 < v-dogg> good to hear that you got it solved
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11:50 < _cheerios> huomenta
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15:53 < jake> So, I'm wanting to authenticate people using HTTP Basic Authentication. I'm thinking a global filter. Thoughts?
16:45 < jake> Hmm, NullStorage doesn't seem to work as I would expect
17:33 < _cheerios> mmm.... Madoff stories
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19:57 < _cher> joy. might be healthy enough tomorrow to program some \o/
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20:47 < v-dogg> jake: user::startup() for HTTP auth
20:47 < v-dogg> can give you an example code later
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21:59 < _cher> egyptian math teacher kicks student to death for not doing homework assignments. gets sentenced to 6 years. lawyers appeals that he broke no existing law.
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05:28 < v-dogg> huomenta
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09:06 < _cheerios> huomenta
09:39 < _cheerios> ooh. recess framework preview out.
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09:56 < _cheerios> hmm, nice touch with an app browser -- lists all the projects in your app/, along with db, routes and class (+doc) information
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10:30 < markiv> Hi. I'm wondering if there is a way for me to disable the common layout used everywhere in the case of one specific view.
10:30 < markiv> I tried removing the setupHtml() call in my executeHtml() method but that didn' work.
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17:18 < aka-> hello 
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18:06 < _cheerios> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLbJ8YPHwXM mac vs pc  transformers, coolness
18:07 < _cheerios> heh @ xkcd comic.
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23:04 < _cheerios> gladiator, such a nice xmas movie
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05:21 < erisco> anyone kicking about that knows about input types? what are they and how would they change agavi? I heard this brought up at the conference and I also see it as a ticket
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08:01 < v-dogg> huomenta
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08:47 < _cheerios> huomenta
09:05 < v-dogg> anyone tried CrossOver Linux (http://www.codeweavers.com) to run win apps on linux?
09:11 < _cheerios> nope
09:18 < v-dogg> has anyone ran win apps on linux?-)
09:33 < liutis> v-dogg, i just tried this and it worked better than wine, less config needed
09:33 < liutis> i tryed to use dreamweaver over linux
09:34 < liutis> but soon i sit on eclipse 
09:34 < liutis> :)
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10:16 < _cheerios> gaah, amazon is luring me in again! /me manifests anti-amazon self defence spells
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18:56 < _cheerios> any book recommendations? need another book to make a nice order :)
19:03 < horros> _cheerios: Depends on what type of book you mean.
19:05 < _cheerios> oh. only that?
19:06 < horros> Umm.
19:06  * horros is confused
19:06  * horros decides not to care and concentrates on his lager instead
19:07 < _cheerios> meow.
19:07 < _cheerios> hs.fi was advertising a finnish band with a long name
19:07 < horros> Oh dear!
19:07 < horros> (?)
19:07 < _cheerios> http://www.myspace.com/lecorpsmincedefrancoise
19:14 < horros> Meh, can't be bothered to check it out atm
19:14 < horros> I'm listening to Asta Kask
19:14 < horros> :)
19:14  * horros <3 vinyls
19:15 < _cheerios> i can't listen to much. only have shitty laptop speakers, and the phones jacket doesn't fungera at all
19:15 < horros> heh
19:16 < horros> I love my Rotel RA-02 amp and the new vinyl player I bought a year ago <3
19:16 < horros> which reminds me; I went to a "hi-fi" shop here in Tampere to get speakers...
19:16 < horros> He asked me what amp I have, and I told him.
19:16 < horros> "Oh. I don't like the Rotel amps at all."
19:16 < horros> WHAT THE FUCK DO I CARE WHAT YOU LIKE OR NOT!
19:17 < horros> "What's your budget?" "ATM about 500-600e -ish."
19:17 < horros> "Here, come look at these HUGE fucking speakers that are 1300e A PIECE"
19:17 < _cheerios> sounds like about the time you look around you if there's another store across the street :)
19:17 < horros> I left without saying another word.
19:22 < _cheerios> how's your new place been, btw.?
19:23 < _cheerios> i haven't been able to shop anything. been down with the flu since last saturday or so. should be semi-OK tomorrow onwards.
19:24 < horros> My new place? o_O
19:25 < horros> I've been living in the same apartment for over a year and been working at the same place for like five years :)
19:25 < _cheerios> hmm. must've blinked.
19:25 < _cheerios> have to stop doing that.
19:26 < horros> haha
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19:39 < Spica> Huomenta
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22:03 < _cheerios> heh @ polish army statements; "job market doesn't look good. atleast in the army you can be sure of steady livelyhood, like a monthy salary" and "a soldiers occupation beats, for example, working at your local supermarket"
22:09 < ttj> I'm sure they're right. I guess I would rather take a bullet than work in a supermarket.
22:15 < _cheerios> http://salaisuus.org/swf/life.swf
22:34 < ttj> Haha.
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09:00 < _cheerios> huomenta
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13:43 < v-dogg> REPORT of '/!svn/vcc/default': 200 OK (http://svn.agavi.org)
13:43 < v-dogg> woot?
14:41 < saracen> I still cant get the rewrite rules to work with nginx, I did once upon a time. They work, apart from when the page is just domain.tld/ - Then all the routing generated links have a "index.php" in them
14:41 < saracen> Which wont work
14:41 < saracen>                 if (!-e $request_filename) {
14:41 < saracen>                         rewrite ^/(.*)$ /index.php?/$1  last;
14:41 < saracen>                         break;
14:41 < saracen>                 }
14:41 < saracen> anybody got any ideas?
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16:11 < _cheerios> http://thenextweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/2344695659_c898fc36a4_o.jpg
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21:15 < _cheerios> http://www.wimp.com/streetart/ coolness
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22:52 < _cheerios> “Most successful people begin with two beliefs: the future can be better than the present, and I have the power to make it so. They were often showered by good fortune, but relied at crucial moments upon achievements of individual will. Most successful people also have a phenomenal ability to consciously focus their attention. We know from experiments with subjects as diverse as obsessive-compulsive disorder sufferers and Buddhist mo
22:52 < _cheerios> nks that people who can self-consciously focus attention have the power to rewire their brains.”
23:06 < _cheerios> <3<3
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03:38 < Wombert> huomenta :>
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07:31 < digitarald> Huomenta!
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09:30 < E_mE> huomenta!
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10:19 < E_mE> has anyone here encountered problem with the decimal placement symbol being converted on float numbers with PDO_MYSQL?
10:19 < E_mE> in the DB it looks like 1.23 but when PDO_MYSQL passes the value to PHP, its 1,23
10:23 < Wombert> E_mE: wrong locale?
10:23 < E_mE> in PHP or MySQL Wombert ?
10:24 < E_mE> because if i perform $a = (float)1.23; and then  echo $a; its correct
10:24 < E_mE> and if i view data in mysql, it displays 1.23 not 1,23
10:25 < E_mE> so my natural suspicition is that PDO seems to cause the problem, because if i use MySQL or MySQLi it works fine 
10:35 < E_mE> Wombert: thank you :D i used setlocale() to en_GB and works fine now :D
10:35 < Wombert> E_mE: that means your locale is set to de or something
10:35 < Wombert> which doesn't feel right :)
10:36 < E_mE> where should this be defined in Agavi, ive set it in my AgaviPdoDatabase Connect function
10:36 < Wombert> nowhere in agavi
10:36 < Wombert> maybe in app/config.php
10:36 < Wombert> or fix the server configuration
10:36 < E_mE> ok ... ill check it out :) thank you again, i was tearing my hair out with this
10:37 < Wombert> E_mE: you really should figure out why it isn't en_GB on that box in the first place :)
10:37 < E_mE> since it worked in with mysql but not pdo_mysql
10:37 < Wombert> I guess pdo is locale aware
10:37 < E_mE> would this be something to do with Mac OS X configurations then?
10:37 < E_mE> or PHP?
10:51 < E_mE> since ive upgrade to agavi 1.0b6 i got "Configuration file "/Users/jeramy/Workspace/gasworld/app/config/validators.xml" does not exist or is unreadable"
11:12 < CIA-57> felix * r3448 /branches/felix-testing-implementation/ (16 files in 10 dirs): (log message trimmed)
11:12 < CIA-57> Merged revisions 3428,3430-3443,3445-3447 via svnmerge from
11:12 < CIA-57> https://svn.agavi.org/branches/1.0
11:12 < CIA-57> ........
11:12 < CIA-57> r3428 | felix | 2008-12-10 23:34:19 +0100 (Wed, 10 Dec 2008) | 3 lines
11:12 < CIA-57> adds some tests for the webrequestdataholder
11:13 < CIA-57> - sort of refs #955 #956
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12:02 < E_mE> which validator do people think is best used for checkboxes?
12:08 < digitarald> E_mE: checkboxes with "name[]" ?
12:09 < E_mE> ja
12:09 < E_mE> im wondering how best to validator them, because if its not chekced, then the feature is not enabled and then vice versa
12:09 < E_mE> but oviously its not transmitted if unchecked
12:14 < digitarald> right
12:15 < E_mE> any ideas digitarald ?
12:15 < digitarald> rethink your approach ;)
12:16 < digitarald> if its not checked, null is given as name[] ... isn't that enough?
12:16 < digitarald> name can default to array
12:16 < E_mE> well checkbox is inside blog[enabled]  .. its not an array
12:17 < E_mE> sorry, slight confusion there
12:18 < digitarald> why not a simple isset()?
12:19 < E_mE> will the isset validator give me a false in the parameters then?
12:20 < digitarald> isset validator with argument-base should work
12:20 < E_mE> ok ill play with that, cheers digitarald 
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13:54 < _cheerios> jee
13:56 < E_mE> man the pound has almost reach parity with the Euro, £1 = €1.02
13:56 < E_mE> insantiy
13:58 < v-dogg> so you reckon you guys will soon come to your senses, ditch the imperialistic relic currency and join the EMU?-)
13:59 < E_mE> im pro euro =P so i want them too
13:59 < _cheerios> hmm, gotta rid meself of £30 lying around then
13:59 < E_mE> now is the perfect time _cheerios ... if not next week or two hehe
14:00 < E_mE> not long till it becomes weaker then the europ heh
14:00 < v-dogg> _cheerios: hurry! soon no-one will want them
14:00 < _cheerios> TOO MUCH PRESSURE!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
14:00 < _cheerios> i'll just go eat these delicious treats i just bought
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14:09 < Wombert> nom
14:22 < E_mE> Wombert: you think there will ever be a chm version of the API docs?
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14:49 < Rozza> Huomenta!
14:50 -!- Rozza is now known as RossC0
14:50 < v-dogg> hey RossC0 
14:50 < v-dogg> what's up
14:52 < RossC0> norra lorra - working from home :D
14:52 < RossC0> so has access to IRC for a change
14:54 < E_mE> RossC0: yo! :D
14:54 < E_mE> hows it going
14:54 < RossC0> good good - how about yourself?
14:54 < E_mE> not too bad, gonna be moving up towards your neck of the woods in 3-4 months time
14:55 < E_mE> going to chesterfield
14:55 < E_mE> and got me self a new Macbook ;)
14:56 < RossC0> kewl
14:56 < E_mE> hows python going for you?
14:57 < RossC0> good - but just before xmas annouced reduancies in the new year :(
14:57 < RossC0> whats in chesterfield?
14:58 < E_mE> jesus redunancies :( sorry to hear dude
14:58 < RossC0> *redundancies
14:58 < RossC0> well - not sure of the scope - but will mean a morale dive at work 
14:58 < RossC0> as generally the best people leave!
14:59 < E_mE> well Lorna (my GF) parents are moving to France, and we can adopt there nice house for like £25 more then what we pay now for our one bedroom flat down here, so perfect bargain .. and better pay ;)
15:00 < E_mE> ekk, i hope you remain safe, morale in my company is pretty low
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15:01 < E_mE> im gonna be sending out my CVs around the north in the next month or so
15:01 < E_mE> so hopefully i should aquire some form of employment
15:01 < RossC0> cool - well good luck!
15:02 < E_mE> thank you, you got good feeling about your job or complete unsure?
15:04 < E_mE> RossC0: did you see top gear yday?
15:04 < Wombert> shhhhht
15:04  * Wombert hasn't seen it yet
15:05 < RossC0> of course
15:05 < RossC0> Hurry up Wombert
15:05 < E_mE> it was amazing :D
15:05  * RossC0 hugs Wombert - Merry Xmas!
15:05 < Wombert> dude!
15:05 < Wombert> merry christmas to you!
15:05 < E_mE> i really want to visit Vietnam now :D
15:05 < RossC0> Ssshhhh
15:05 < RossC0> all I can say is its good ;)
15:06 < E_mE> its ++
15:06 < E_mE> and its extended as well
15:06 < E_mE> is there a German top gear?
15:08 < E_mE> question: How can i make my blog[enabled]  be off if it does not exist
15:08 < E_mE> ive currently got an Or validator with a isset and set inside
15:08 < E_mE> but no success
16:26 < v-dogg> heeelp
16:26 < v-dogg> wtf is this: REPORT of '/!svn/vcc/default': 200 OK (http://svn.agavi.org)
16:26 < v-dogg> my svn up fails on externals
16:31 < v-dogg> wtf. it was my firewall interfering with the traffic
16:31 < v-dogg> but another thing: 'svn://svn.phpunit.de/phpunit/phpunit/branches/feature/isolated_test_execution/PHPUnit'
16:32 < v-dogg> beta5
16:44 < Wombert> v-dogg: yeah, it wasn't pinned to a revision back then
16:44 < Wombert> it is now
16:45 < v-dogg> yup
16:45 < Wombert> hoem tiem
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17:46 < _cheerios> RossC0, happy holidays! pop in more often you snake-coding salesman! :D
17:47 < nfq> hey RossC0 is back
17:47 < nfq> damn cool
17:47 < RossC0> yo _cheerios happy holidays!
17:47 < nfq> how you been mate?
17:47 < RossC0> hey nfq
17:47 < RossC0> good - busy 
17:47 < v-dogg> how's the family btw?
17:48 < RossC0> need irc.freenode access on port 80 then I'd always be on!
17:48 < RossC0> good v-dogg Felix is a little star and Imogen is a cheeky imp and loves the terrible twos!
17:48 < v-dogg> we just got the first ultrasound image of our second one :)
17:48 < nfq> hehe.. sounds like fun actually
17:49 < nfq> v-dogg: congrats man
17:49 < nfq> how long now?
17:49 < v-dogg> RossC0: good to hear
17:49 < v-dogg> it's due at the end of august
17:49 < RossC0> oww cool :D
17:49 < nfq> ah, nice
17:49 < v-dogg> 6+ weeks now
17:50 < nfq> RossC0: how's the Django stuff going?
17:51 < RossC0> yeah good - I looove Python
17:51  * RossC0 hugs Python
17:51 < RossC0> Django is ok as well ;)
17:51 < nfq> hehe
17:51 < v-dogg> heretic
17:51 < nfq> totally
17:51 < RossC0> I'd say libertine :D
17:52 < RossC0> right all I gotta fly
17:52 < v-dogg> _o/
17:52 < RossC0> I'll be back tomorrow!!
17:52 < v-dogg> fun fun :)
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18:11 < moritz__> huomenta
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18:13 < moritz__> within an executeWrite() can I call another action?
18:16 < moritz__> that is, how do I rewrite the URL after I serve a request?
18:21 < v-dogg> redirect the user to another page?
18:21 < v-dogg> or what do you want?
18:21 < v-dogg> I don't understand the question. explain the use case please.
18:31 < moritz__> hi
18:31 < moritz__> Ok, so I have a LoginAction
18:31 < moritz__> on executeRead it returns the login form view
18:32 < moritz__> when the login form submits via post I execute the executeWrite in that some login action
18:32 < moritz__> and return the tableview view which displays the data
18:33 < moritz__> when I reload the page however the browser has to resend the login data and asks every time if that's ok
18:34 < moritz__> that's because the url is still on the loginaction route $/login
18:34 < moritz__> I would like to rewrite the route to the $/tableview route after the user successfully logged in
18:34 < moritz__> v-dogg: how is that done?
18:38 < v-dogg> by redirecting (http redirect)
18:39 < v-dogg> $url = $this->context->getRouting()->gen('my.route'); $this->getResponse()->setRedirect($url);
18:39 < v-dogg> in the view's executeHtml
18:39 < moritz__> awesome
18:39 < moritz__> thank you so much
18:39 < v-dogg> and remove everything else from the view (i.e. don't do setupHtml() or anything else to load a layout)
18:40 < v-dogg> it's often a good idea to redirect after a successful POST to prevent those "do you really want to post the for again" messages 
18:41 < moritz__> again, thank you
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19:32 < _cheerios> http://fauxfire.com/ *g*
19:33 < v-dogg> haha
19:34 < v-dogg> the room feels so cosy and warn all of a sudden
19:35 < v-dogg> got get a glass of red wine and enjoy the warmth 
19:45 < Rendez> hahah
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19:55 < _cheerios> mmh... been looking at sennheiser hd 595 headphones. listened to some music here at parents, and my home stereos suddenly feel weak :)
20:05 < E_mE> _cheerios: get better stereo ;)
20:06 < _cheerios> maybe that too, as i rearrange the apartment a bit :D
20:06 < E_mE> ah nice 
20:07 < E_mE> i have 5.1 DVD system, the sub-woofer makes music good ;D
20:07 < E_mE> hehe
20:07 < _cheerios> damn. should've ordered earlier today, and would've had the product at my local post office by tomorrow for 5e delivery cost -- rather than spend an hour going shopping.
20:08 < _cheerios> im surrounded by old people. sub woofers won't mix too well :p
20:09 < E_mE> oh well, when your rich =P
20:10 < _cheerios> E_mE, http://doom.herograw.net/The%20Dark%20Side%20of%20Phobos/Disk%20One%20-%20Phobos/DSoP_00_WelcomeToHell(Intro).mp3 does this sound good on your system?
20:11 < v-dogg> has anyone tried any wlan speakers?
20:12 < E_mE> _cheerios: yes it does sound quite eary :> sounds pretty good
20:12 < _cheerios> doom1 e1m1, classic
20:12 < E_mE> i could do with some eary music actually.. im gonna get that damned Ext drive hooked in
20:12 < E_mE> v-dogg: batteries :(
20:12 < v-dogg> we are moving to a new appartment and I finally get a separate workroom. but that means I can't play music from the computer and listen to it in the living room :)
20:13 < E_mE> you can get wireless units which you can connect to your amp and you PC
20:13 < v-dogg> yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about
20:13 < v-dogg> anyone tried any? user experiences?
20:14 < E_mE> ah, well i knew someone that had one, they got me round to get it to work wirelessly with there itunes, and worked fine
20:14 < E_mE> think it depends on your amp on how good it may sound in your system
20:15 < E_mE> id have one
20:15 < E_mE> _cheerios: ill check them out :)
20:15 < _cheerios> amps are friggin expensive
20:16 < E_mE> well, key part of any good stereo system
20:16 < E_mE> my 5.1 DVD Player Amp does me fine besides the fact it doesnt play DVDs anymore
20:17 < E_mE> _cheerios: you heard any darkthrone?
20:17 < _cheerios> no, havent been much into music listening of late, except just a few days ago listened thru a few albums (alternative/indie/rock/pop/strange)
20:18 < _cheerios> need to pack my gear. 05 wakeup, flying back home tomorrow.
20:19 < v-dogg> where about are you?
20:21 < _cheerios> heart of scandinavia, stockholm
20:22 < v-dogg> are you from sweden?
20:23 < _cheerios> and there's nothing wrong with being from sweden.
20:23 < _cheerios> no, all finnish, just holidays here.
20:24 < v-dogg> ok :)
20:35 < _cheerios> YOU CAN ADD ME BACK TO YOU FACEBOOK FRIENDS NOW, V-DOGG! :p
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21:04 < v-dogg> bah, like I would have something agains swedes :p
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05:39 < v-dogg> huomenta
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10:17 < _cheerios> huomenta
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10:19 < Rozza> Huomenta!
10:22 < _cheerios> mmm... i glad i left something in the fridge not necessitating an immediate walk to the mall for some foood
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11:33 < Rozza> _cheerios I'm glad you're glad
11:35 < Fou4th> is it ok to generate some html code in View classes?
11:42 < v-dogg> of course
11:42 < Rozza> Fou4th: well depends - it can be frowned upon
11:42 < v-dogg> if you really want generate html code
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11:43 < Rozza> but depends if you have a developer / designer differentitation
11:43 < v-dogg> yup yup
11:43 < v-dogg> but the view is the place to do it (or a template or a template/view helper)
11:44  * Rozza agrees
11:51 < Fou4th> well, ok
11:51 < Fou4th> I need to process some data before displaying (dates for example)
11:52 < Fou4th> code for converting it to html code in templates looks badly
11:53 < Fou4th> so I decided to process such values into html in the View class
11:53 < Rozza> just formatting?
11:54 < Fou4th> yep
11:54 < Fou4th> maybe some calculations, I don't know yet
11:55 < Rozza> well formatting is fine in the view / template
11:55 < Rozza> calculations / data munging I'd generally do in the action
11:56 < Rozza> as its not output dependent
11:56 < Rozza> data might be used in xml, html etc..
12:19 < splatch> hello :)
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13:01 < _cheerios> burr.. afternoon nap. good. does.
13:12 < splatch> i loove drupal :P
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13:40 < _cheerios> splatch, what's good about drupal?
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13:43 < splatch> _cheerios: extensions
13:43 < splatch> a lot of extensions
13:44 < splatch> and cool content tree model - you can add constraints between nodes
13:45 < splatch> for example you have node of type City and constraint - the city must have set Country
13:45 < splatch> where Country is other node type
13:48 < splatch> and plugin system with dependencies
13:48 < splatch> for example module calendar depends on dateapi
13:52 < _cheerios> damn. electricity is expensive. i paid 28,9e/mo this year, and i don't even have a sauna and the freezer was off most of the year.
13:59 < v-dogg> but you have computer and an lcd display on 24/7/365?
14:02 < Fou4th> hmm
14:02 < Fou4th> how much electricity costs in your country?
14:05 < _cheerios> v-dogg, yeah, 16/7/365
14:05 < _cheerios> have to calculate how much everything takes... maybe i have some evil energy sucking lightbulbs or something...
14:06 < _cheerios> my usage is on line with the average consumption, atleast as told by the company charging me (Fortum), for an apartment of this size (~30m2)
14:09 < _cheerios> Fou4th: 7,35c/kwH (sale) + 2,78c/kWh (transfer)
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14:10 < Fou4th> what is "sale" and "transfer"? What's the difference?
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14:12 < Fou4th> I pay about 3 c/kwH, according to el. counter
14:12 < _cheerios> there's sellers of electricity, and then there's companies carrying the energy charging for the transfer costs
14:12 < Fou4th> got it
14:13 < Fou4th> In Russia 1 kwH costs differently in most regions
14:15 < Fou4th> Usually in one region just one company cells electricity
14:16 < _cheerios> my consumption was 1741kWh for the year
14:17 < _cheerios> off to the shops. new year's means another reason to buy something to even out the shock of becoming more smarter and handsome every year...
14:18 < Fou4th> mine is about 1000-1200
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15:08 < _cheerios> clearleh, someone is pirating my electrizities!
15:14 < Fou4th> how does nested route work?
15:15 < Fou4th> say the followinr route exists 
15:15 < Fou4th> What action will be called for nested route? ProductShow?
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15:24 < _cheerios> http://www.explosm.net/comics/1511/ ace
15:30 < _cheerios> Fou4th, afair, if you want a "sub-module" you do 
15:32 < Fou4th> No, I don't want a submodule
15:32 < Fou4th> Actually I'm looking at auto-generated code and don't understand how it's supposed to work
15:33 < Fou4th> 
15:33 < _cheerios> a module has a number of actions, and you nest via the xml, and the name's just accumulate as you nest deeper
15:34 < v-dogg> nesting routes is optional, though
15:34 < v-dogg> but very convenient
15:34 < _cheerios> that seems to be missing the parent route that doesn't have a . in front
15:35 < Fou4th> 
15:35 < Fou4th> is it valid route&
15:35 < v-dogg> valid but probably not what you want
15:35 < _cheerios> a route needs a name, pattern and and action at minimum (and a module if root)
15:35 < Fou4th> i've omitted them
15:36 < Fou4th> but they are there
15:36 < v-dogg> Fou4th: that inner route would call ShowAction in Public module
15:37 < Fou4th> ok, and if I write ".Show" instead of "Show"?
15:37 < v-dogg> but  would trigger Product_ShowAction
15:37 < v-dogg> (Public_Product_ShowAction)
15:37 < Fou4th> hmmm
15:37 < v-dogg> (module name is part of the action class name)
15:37 < Fou4th> I thought it's just a concatenation
15:38 < v-dogg> in a way it is in routing.xml
15:39 < Fou4th> thank, I see now
15:39 < v-dogg> but for agavi action name Product.Show means MyModule_Product_ShowAction class in app/modules/MyModule/actions/Product/ShowAction.class.php
15:40 < v-dogg> and like I said, nesting routes is optional (but recommended). you can also write 
15:41 < Fou4th> is it possible to create such nested actions using agavi tool?
15:42 < v-dogg> the correct term is sub action (which is a stupid name :) and yes, you can create them
15:42 < v-dogg> using the dot notation
15:43 < v-dogg> "agavi action" => action name: Product.Show
15:43 < Fou4th> yep, just checked
15:43 < Fou4th> nice feature
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15:45 < _cheerios> anyone here used guid's instead of just autoincrementing ints in their services? how's that worked out? any kinks?
15:47 < Fou4th> I've used
15:47 < Fou4th> but don't know why
15:47 < Fou4th> it was not really necessary
15:48 < Fou4th> I create single pool of GUID's so all primary keys guids were unique in the application scope
15:48 < Fou4th> stupid idea
15:50 < Fou4th> so better to use GUIDs as GUIDs and primary keys as primary keys
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16:02 < MikeSeth> OH HAI! 
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16:06 < Wombert> huomenta
16:07 < v-dogg> hey wombs and MikeSeth 
16:07 < _cheerios> hai hai
16:08 < _cheerios> MikeSeth, been drafted? ;)
16:16 < MikeSeth> no, did it for the lulz!
16:16 < MikeSeth> whats up all
16:16 < CIA-57> felix * r3449 /branches/1.0/test/tests/unit/request/ (3 files): 
16:16 < CIA-57> rewrote the tests for the AgaviWebRequestDataHolder to match the specified behaviour
16:16 < CIA-57> - sort of refs #955
16:16 < CIA-57> - refs #308
16:18 < Wombert> MIEK
16:18 < Wombert> where have you been!!!!!!!!
16:18  * Wombert hugs
16:18  * Wombert hugs
16:18 < Wombert> hugs
16:18 < Wombert> :>
16:18  * Wombert ohai v-dogg 
16:21 < v-dogg> lotta luv :)
16:24 < MikeSeth> I've been PWNT by PHP
16:24 < MikeSeth> dog bless Agavi, srsly
16:24 < MikeSeth> it saved me so many pain
16:25 < MikeSeth> im becoming dyslexic
16:25 < MikeSeth> so *much* pain
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16:45 < Fou4th> ammm
16:46 < Fou4th> I've found that variable with template params named $t not $template as in the tutorial
16:46 < Fou4th> I mean variable inside template file
16:47 < Fou4th> Is it bug? or feature?
16:48 < MikeSeth> Fou4th: no, it's a change in Agavi defaults that wasnt propagated into the tutorial
16:48 < MikeSeth> if its easier for you you can change it back to $template in output_types.xmol
16:48 < MikeSeth> .xml
16:48 < MikeSeth> and please file a ticket for me, I'll fix it
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16:57 < Fou4th> http://trac.agavi.org/ticket/965
16:58 < MikeSeth> thks
16:58  * MikeSeth pets impl 
16:59 < impl> hi
16:59 < impl> :o
17:02 < MikeSeth> how you be?
17:02 < impl> okey
17:02 < impl> I'm on vacation :D
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17:05 < MikeSeth> bastard
17:06 < impl> :>
17:06 < impl> Don't you get Jewdays off for your candle-holiday?
17:07 < _cheerios> heh @ finland at times. woman goes to note neighbour about loud music, neighbour stabs women.
17:07 < MikeSeth> a bag of dicks, maybe
17:07 < MikeSeth> jewdays, no
17:08 < impl> :(
17:09 < DracoBlue> hello :)
17:09 < DracoBlue> I recently updated a 0.11 app to 1.0, and noticed that I still can use $template in my templates. So I was wondering where to cahnge that to $t?
17:10 < DracoBlue> guessed it may be in output_types.xml for the renderer, but not sure, though.
17:10 < MikeSeth> DracoBlue: output_types.xml is generated during the creation of the application
17:10 < MikeSeth> if you recreate it with 1.0 you will see that $template changed too
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17:11 < DracoBlue> ah I see, t is about to do the trick.
17:11 < _cheerios> v-dogg, is alko open tomorrow?
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17:16 < impl> WOMBERT
17:18 < Wombert> WAT HAPEN
17:18 < Wombert> ah dude!
17:18 < Wombert> fucking hell where have you been all the time
17:18 < Wombert> :>
17:18 < Wombert> is this some sort of jew joke
17:18 < Wombert> all the people who were MIA for weeks suddenly turn up again :>
17:18  * Wombert hugs MikeSeth 
17:18  * Wombert hugs impl 
17:19 < impl> I'm on vacation :P
17:19 < impl> Thanks for the book, too :D
17:19 < Wombert> ah dude
17:19 < Wombert> right
17:19 < Wombert> :>
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17:24 < DracoBlue> btw. wombert, is the "old" documentation somewhere up now? (e.g. cookbook)
17:24 < DracoBlue> sorry, that I missed to write you an email about that issue :-).
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17:56 < v-dogg> _cheerios: yup
17:56 < v-dogg> I think
17:58 < Wombert> moar bugs in ze docs btw, MikeSeth 
17:58 < Wombert> like validators...
17:58 < Wombert>  elements are not in ae namespace, I think, and there is an  element that shouldn't be there
18:02 < v-dogg> http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/rogue-ca/
18:03 < v-dogg> "We have identified a vulnerability in the Internet Public Key Infrastructure (PKI) used to issue digital certificates for secure websites. As a proof of concept we executed a practical attack scenario and successfully created a rogue Certification Authority (CA) certificate trusted by all common web browsers."
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18:44 < MrJeep> happy new year eveyone :)
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19:41 < Wombert> bollocks
19:41 < Wombert> is wikipedia down?
19:42 < E_mE> proberbly censored =P
19:59 < CIA-57> felix * r3450 /branches/1.0/test/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
19:59 < CIA-57> -added a test that checks behavior with object values
19:59 < CIA-57> - removed the base test from the suite and moved it to autoload
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20:38 < _cheerios> THAT'S THE SPIRIT!
20:56 < _cheerios> jew movies are the best
20:58 < _cheerios> smoking, selling weed all day long
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22:03 < Wombert> 'tis cold in ze office
22:03 < Wombert> hoem tiem
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02:51 < erisco> where is the original agavi docs?
02:51 < erisco> I want the opening "what a framework is an is not" speech, it rocks
02:53 < erisco> this *is* urgent, I am trying to stop someone from making a mistake with making yet another framework. please, for the sake of PHP and the Internet at whole!
02:54 < erisco> I need your words of wisdom, original Agavi documentation writer person
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02:55 < erisco> MikeSeth, you are particularly well voiced in these matters. do you know where it went? impl? someone? sorry to make such a fuss
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03:10 < erisco> icyt, do YOU know?
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08:19 < v-dogg> huomenta
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09:09 < MikeSeth> oh hai
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12:56 < E_mE_> hehehe look what someone wrote in #javascript: `saml: is there C++ to Javascript compiler?`
12:56 < E_mE_> hehehe
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14:58 < _cheerios> jee
15:27 < horros> japajapa
15:46 < _cheerios> free drinks in leppävaara if anyone is around that region
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15:54 < horros> One (1) free lager at my apartment in Kalkku if anyone's in the neighbourhood :P
15:55 < ttj> Kalkku?
15:55 < horros> Yessir.
15:56 < _cheerios> do you guys clean your mobile phone contact lists alot? i have some entry like "minna, lastenvahti" -- and i don't order babysitters. 
15:57 < ttj> I clean my contact list every time I try one of our synchronization software products.
15:57 < ttj> Or actually the software does the cleaning for me, regardless of whether or not I want to delete everything. I typically don't. *shrug*
15:57 < horros> I have a shetload of completely weird contacts in my mobile.
15:58 < ttj> Me too, and I would certainly like to know who Natalie is.
15:58 < horros> In fact, I had "ankkalinna" too, which I found rather amusing and also confusing at the same time.
15:58 < horros> I sort of wondered what I've been doing the day before.
16:00 < _cheerios> ttj: indeed, all these female first names whom you have no recollection of
16:01 < horros> I know a Natalie!
16:01 < ttj> Could it be the same?
16:01 < _cheerios> is there a lazy mans (=programmers) option to send an sms to everyone on your mobile contact list?
16:01 < horros> ttj: I dunno!
16:01 < horros> _cheerios: I dunno!
16:02 < _cheerios> seems i can do groups, and send to that group, or click thru the whole list
16:02 < _cheerios> wtf, got an "sms can't be sent" msg back 15mins after sending sms
16:02 < ttj> +44. This must be the random chick who picked me up from a bar in the UK.
16:02 < ttj> Why would you want to spam everyone in your phonebook at once?
16:04 < horros> _cheerios: I got an MMS from my mum yesterday morning at 8:10.
16:04 < horros> She had send it the previous day at noon.
16:04 < ttj> Hmm... Interesting scratches have appeared on my hands after last night.
16:04 < ttj> And for some odd reason I don't feel like drinking anything tonight. :(
16:04 < horros> Oh dear :(
16:05 < horros> I can't get completely shitarsefaced today, I need to drive some 250km tomorrow.
16:05 < horros> :(
16:08 < _cheerios> ok. spamming everyone. lets see how many "thanks, but who the fuck are you?" do i get back.
16:08 < horros> I daren't do that. 
16:08 < _cheerios> PLUS I USED CAPS. MUHAHAHAHA.
16:09 < horros> I have too many suspicious phone numbers and a lot of customers' private phone numbers.
16:10 < _cheerios> "I appreciate your efforts and Thanks for your response. My office browser is IE6. That could be the issue" // YEAH. IT IS.
16:11 < _cheerios> no, i won't do email support tonight :)
16:11 < _cheerios> horros, heh, well, we live only once!
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16:13 < horros> hehe
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16:22 < _cheerios> disappointing. many "thanks" and "cu, and lets party next year" replies, but no "wtf?"'s
16:23 < ttj> Hmm... I wonder if I should go back to the office...
16:23 < horros> Umm...
16:23 < horros> "No".
16:25 < ttj> Well, there are some bottles of champagne there...
16:25 < horros> Ah
16:25 < horros> In that case.
16:25 < horros> "Yes".
16:25 < ttj> :P
16:27 < ttj> Haha. "We see that there is no need for a cease fire, even in the name of humanitarian aid."
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17:34 < _cheerios> hmm, closest thing so far is "LOL. YOU?" plus they give me their email. what the hell does that mean.
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22:08 < v-dogg> happy new year
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22:50 < erisco> why can I only route based on path info?
22:50 < erisco> what was the reasoning behind this? say I wanted to route on GET or POST data, why was this not supported?
23:10 < v-dogg> extend AgaviWebRouting and add it
23:11 < v-dogg> takes about 2 lines (I have tried it once)
23:13 < v-dogg> public function startup(){ parent::startup(); $this->sources['_POST'] = new AgaviRoutingArraySource($_POST); }
23:13 < v-dogg> there :)
23:14 < v-dogg> but I'm not sure it really is a good idea
23:14 < v-dogg> I haven't decided
23:15 < Seldaek> doesn't seem very useful 
23:15 < Seldaek> but then if you need it why not.. doesn't sound harmful either
23:16 < v-dogg> lemme find you a post thread from the users's list ...
23:16 < v-dogg> http://groups.google.com/group/agavi-users/browse_thread/thread/f55d62787c48678b#
23:17 < Seldaek> so v-dogg are you not freaking partying ?
23:19 < erisco> v-dogg, I understand better now, thank-you
23:19 < v-dogg> nah, we were out visiting a friend but came home for midnight
23:20 < v-dogg> I'm old and tired :)
23:20 < v-dogg> and almost father of two :)
23:20 < Seldaek> what two at a time? :p
23:21 < Seldaek> the lady didn't seem that close to having two mini-dogg at the ipc :)
23:21 < v-dogg> thank god no!
23:21 < Seldaek> heh
23:21 < v-dogg> our first one is 1,5 years old 
23:21 < Seldaek> ah alright
23:22 < v-dogg> and the next one wasn't initialized then :)
23:23 < Seldaek> hehe 
23:24 < Seldaek> ah well I guess I'll go do a commit on the laptop so I can work here a bit instead of slacking with beer
23:26 < v-dogg> and what's your excuse for not partying? (coding - even with beer - does not count as partying!)
23:26 < Seldaek> whaaaa?:)
23:26 < Seldaek> I thought it did
23:26 < v-dogg> no, sorry
23:26 < Seldaek> no well I was just pissed off at holidays
23:26 < v-dogg> not even during php conferences :)
23:27 < Seldaek> we kept going from place to place for christmas and back and bleh and this 
23:27 < Seldaek> so I thought fuck it I'll stay home 
23:27 < Seldaek> have one evening of true rest during my 2 weeks of holidays..
23:28 < v-dogg> and what better way to rest is there than do some nice coding is there :D
23:29 < v-dogg> but anyhows, gotta take to dog out and hit the sack
23:29 < Seldaek> well
23:29 < Seldaek> until now I was drinking and watching crap
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23:29 < Seldaek> but now I'm bored
23:29 < Seldaek> and my rss feeds are empty.. fucking holidays! :)
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