--- Log opened Sun Jun 01 00:00:09 2008 00:06 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-051-142.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 00:15 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 00:24 -!- IcyT is now known as icyt 05:12 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 06:34 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 06:43 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 07:12 < v-dogg> huomenta 07:38 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-061-001.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 08:01 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 08:04 < MikeSeth> hay guise 08:04 < MikeSeth> huomenta 08:21 < Wombert> huomenta marklar|omni 08:21 < Wombert> err MikeSeth 08:23 < _cheerios> huomenta 08:23 < MikeSeth> halo 08:26 < MikeSeth> sigh 08:26 < MikeSeth> the first thing in the morning is an email that begins like this 08:26 < MikeSeth> "is it come from firewall?" 08:35 < _cheerios> i had won 750,000 08:45 < _cheerios> govt slackers: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.635619.17 08:58 < marklar|omni> hai guise 09:12 -!- icyt is now known as IcyT 11:15 -!- fholmstrom [n=fredrik@host136.visattranr1.se] has joined #agavi 11:16 < fholmstrom> Huomenta! ;) 11:32 < Wombert> somafm down :p 11:36 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 11:43 < MikeSeth> :< 11:58 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 12:22 < MikeSeth> WOMBART 12:22 < MikeSeth> WOMBART 12:22 < MikeSeth> WAEKUP 12:22 < MikeSeth> http://karwin.blogspot.com/2008/05/activerecord-does-not-suck.html 12:22 < MikeSeth> SOMEONE FINALLY GETS IT!!!1! 12:24 < Wombert> dis guy 12:24 < Wombert> we must drag him in 12:24 < Wombert> rite? 12:25 < MikeSeth> I don't know 12:25 < MikeSeth> but I will try anyway :> 12:25 < Wombert> Many developers have complained that Zend Framework provides no base Model class. Of course it doesn't provide a base Model class! That's your job. This complaint is like saying that Microsoft Word sucks because it doesn't provide finished documents for you. 12:25 < Wombert> WOOHOOOO 12:25 < Wombert> :> 12:25 < Wombert> WE WIN WE WIN 12:25 < Wombert> :> 12:25 < Wombert> "for an explanation on why agavi rocks, see http://karwin.blogspot.com/2008/05/activerecord-does-not-suck.html" :p 12:26 < MikeSeth> hahahahaha 12:26 < MikeSeth> ill contact the guy by mail when im home (he left comments on my blog) 12:26 < MikeSeth> also Wombert 12:26 < MikeSeth> i'm about to release the demo CMS for agavi 12:26 < Wombert> win 12:26 < MikeSeth> let's find some use for it 12:26 < Wombert> I can has demo? 12:27 < MikeSeth> i need to rip out the current design and put in e.g. a stock template 12:50 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 12:51 < _cheerios> the final word on cms's? :) 13:15 < marklar|omni> ohai 13:16 < MikeSeth> lol wtf 13:16 < MikeSeth> boss just came in 13:16 < MikeSeth> as i was in the middle of coding 13:16 < MikeSeth> unplugged my monitor 13:16 < MikeSeth> removed it from the table 13:16 < MikeSeth> and put a new 19" instead 13:16 < MikeSeth> wtf 13:18 < Macen> lol 13:33 < marklar|omni> hehe 13:39 < marklar|omni> I haz 3 17" 13:39 < marklar|omni> maybe I should ask for two 24" 13:39 < marklar|omni> :\ 14:08 < MikeSeth> you're a jew 14:28 < MikeSeth> Wombert: have you seen my win ashtray? 14:29 < Wombert> yes 14:29 < Wombert> what was the size of the old one, MikeSeth 14:33 < MikeSeth> old one? 14:33 < MikeSeth> [[CONFUS[ 14:41 < Wombert> the old monitor 14:42 < Wombert> MikeSeth: 14:42 < Wombert> MikeSeth: 14:42 < Wombert> MikeSeth: 14:45 < MikeSeth> wat 14:47 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 15:01 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:04 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 15:05 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-061-001.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 15:08 < marklar|omni> ohai 15:16 -!- saracen [n=saracen@cpc2-pete5-0-0-cust624.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #agavi 15:27 < Macen> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/votes.cgi?action=show_user&bug_id=436777#vote_436777 15:27 < Macen> please vote either way if you use a mac.. (and save my sanity) ...... 15:28 < _cheerios> wth is up with eclipse today: An error has occurred. See error log for more details. Illegal UTF8 string in constant pool in class file com/ibm/icu/text/DecimalFormat 15:32 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 15:34 < Wombert> oh hai 15:34 < Wombert> err, huomenta 15:34 < Wombert> <: 15:34 < Macen> hihi 15:34 < Macen> or huomenta (sp??) 15:34 < Macen> either one 15:38 -!- JamieWolf [n=JamieWol@dslb-088-068-222-230.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 15:39 < JamieWolf> Huomenta everyone. 15:41 < JamieWolf> I'm currently working with the FPF to prefill a form with data. Then I came to point where I what to fill a $value): ?> 15:49 < Wombert> 15:49 < Wombert> 15:50 < Wombert> I'd make a small helper function for that 15:50 < Wombert> but that is out of the scope of a framework 15:51 < saracen> Wombert, is there a way to disable parsing of html tags on form errors? I wanted to put a link in one, but it just shows the html. 15:52 < Wombert> eh? 15:52 < Wombert> ah 15:52 < Wombert> I don't think so 15:52 < Wombert> interesting 15:52 < Wombert> hmm 15:52 < Wombert> :) 15:53 < saracen> It's not essential, I was just going to flag "Password incorrect. Have you Forgotten your password?" on the login form when the username/password is incorrect. 15:53 < saracen> I can easily put the link at the bottom of the page though :P 15:54 < Wombert> yes you need to do this by hand I'm afraid 15:55 < Wombert> hmm 15:55 < Wombert> there is a way to do this, saracen :) 15:56 < Wombert> you could define a special error markup rule 15:56 < Wombert> in your error view 15:56 < Wombert> to handle this 15:57 * Wombert ponders 15:57 < Wombert> yeah 15:57 < Wombert> haha 15:57 < Wombert> win 15:57 < Wombert> :> 15:57 < Wombert> you ready saracen? 15:57 < saracen> sure =) 15:57 < Wombert> oh I gotta run 15:57 < Wombert> are you around later? 15:57 < Wombert> you'll love this 15:57 < Wombert> :) 15:57 < JamieWolf> Okay :) Thanks. 15:57 < Wombert> but gotta get into a meeting now 15:57 < saracen> lol, yeah, I will be :) 15:57 < Wombert> cool 15:57 < saracen> No problem, speak to you later. Have fun :P 15:58 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 16:01 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 16:02 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 16:03 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 16:04 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Client Quit] 16:09 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 16:42 < Whisller> Ahh Portugal - Poland 7 to 13. Na na na na na na na na 16:43 < Whisller> good game. I must eat something 16:50 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 16:50 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 16:52 < v-dogg> Wombert: woot woot woot 16:52 < v-dogg> tell us 16:52 < v-dogg> saracen can read it later, we want to know now 16:53 < saracen> Yeah, I can read it later. They want to know now. 17:04 < Wombert> no time 17:04 < Wombert> laterd 17:12 < v-dogg> ah, it was Wombs, not saracen, who was going to a meeting :) 17:15 < saracen> lol, yeah :P 17:17 -!- ricardo [n=ricardo@189.26.20.157.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #agavi 17:17 -!- ricardo [n=ricardo@189.26.20.157.adsl.gvt.net.br] has left #agavi [] 17:23 < Macen> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436777 17:23 < Macen> all mac users ^^ 17:23 < Macen> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/votes.cgi?action=show_user&bug_id=436777#vote_436777 17:40 < marklar|omni> haiz 17:48 < Whisller> is it for FF 2.x ? I'm waiting for 2.0 :) 17:48 < Whisller> *3.0 17:50 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 17:50 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit ["see you later"] 17:54 < Macen> bleh 18:57 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit ["bai"] 19:00 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:33 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-062-204.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 19:53 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 20:36 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 20:37 < Macen> Whisller: it is for FF3 20:38 < Macen> they didn't fix it, and i was hoping they would 20:38 < Wombert> saracen: sorry, I'm still mad busy 20:39 < Macen> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/createaccount.cgi then https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/votes.cgi?action=show_user&bug_id=436777#vote_436777 20:39 < Macen> go, no, etc 20:39 < Macen> now* 20:41 < Macen> they seem to fix bugs all the time, according to "Firebot" on irc.mozilla.org/firefox, but i don't want to take the risk 20:42 < saracen> Wombert: No worries :). Just spam it in here whenever you can. If i'm not about, I'll just check the irc logs later on 20:42 < Wombert> tuesday, more likely wednesday 20:42 < Wombert> the general idea is 20:43 < Wombert> you read the field_error_messages request attrib from the fpf namespace 20:43 < Wombert> its an array as you configured it in global_filters.xml 20:43 < Wombert> then you add a new rule to the beginning 20:43 < Wombert> that only matches the password field 20:43 < Wombert> and then you define a different container for this 20:43 < Wombert> that also contains the "forgot your password? blah blah" line 20:44 < Macen> wombert please don't ever make docs like the extjs ones :< 20:44 < Macen> they are quite bad.. 20:44 < Wombert> no worries Macen 20:45 < fholmstrom> Nite nite people :) 20:46 -!- JanK [n=jan@P3106.pallas.wh.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #agavi 20:47 < JanK> which php do you suggest for developing on osx 10.5? 20:48 < Wombert> entropy.ch or macports 20:48 < Macen> the latest one? 20:48 < Wombert> or compile by hand 20:50 < Whisller> latest ;) 20:55 < JanK> i would prefer something as simple as possible, but entropy is missing a few libs as do the built in php? 20:56 < nfq> JanK: not many mate.. 20:57 < nfq> as you know, I was using MAMP for a while 20:57 < nfq> but so glad to be using entropy 20:57 < JanK> mamp sucks 20:57 < nfq> touche 21:06 -!- LBO_ [n=chatzill@dlb42.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 21:06 < LBO_> huomenta 21:10 -!- LBO__ [n=chatzill@aave41.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 21:11 < Macen> wb 21:11 < Macen> right i'm off 21:11 < Macen> bai 21:12 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 21:13 < Whisller> ehh there is somehting wrong with washer. I can't understand how it works ;p 21:13 < Whisller> Maybe soft is broken hmm 21:17 < Whisller> ohh it start working...or just playing with me ;) 21:29 -!- LBO_ [n=chatzill@dlb42.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:30 -!- LBO___ [n=chatzill@dmt131.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 21:30 -!- LBO___ is now known as LBO_ 21:49 -!- LBO__ [n=chatzill@aave41.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:06 -!- JanK [n=jan@P3106.pallas.wh.tu-darmstadt.de] has left #agavi [] 22:20 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-062-204.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 22:30 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [] 23:15 -!- LBO___ [n=chatzill@dmc86.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 23:20 -!- LBO____ [n=chatzill@dms160.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 23:20 -!- IcyT is now known as icyt 23:29 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:33 -!- LBO_ [n=chatzill@dmt131.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:39 -!- LBO___ [n=chatzill@dmc86.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] --- Day changed Mon Jun 02 2008 00:15 -!- LBO____ [n=chatzill@dms160.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]"] 00:40 -!- saracen [n=saracen@cpc2-pete5-0-0-cust624.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:05 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 03:23 < v-dogg> huomenta 03:41 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-062-204.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 03:45 -!- JamieWolf_ [n=JamieWol@dslb-084-059-109-120.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 03:55 -!- JamieWolf [n=JamieWol@dslb-088-068-222-230.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] --- Log closed Mon Jun 02 04:01:20 2008 --- Log opened Mon Jun 02 04:01:24 2008 04:01 -!- Chuckwalla [n=chuckwal@agavi.org] has joined #agavi 04:01 -!- Irssi: #agavi: Total of 24 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 23 normal] 04:01 -!- Irssi: Join to #agavi was synced in 2 secs 04:22 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 05:00 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-062-204.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["bai"] 06:32 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@apn-77-113-177-137.gprs.plus.pl] has joined #agavi 06:42 < marklar|omni> ohai 06:46 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 07:06 < Whisller> morning 07:10 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:16 -!- saracen [n=saracen@cpc2-pete5-0-0-cust624.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #agavi 07:16 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 07:28 < E_mE> huomenta 07:31 < marklar|omni> huomenta 07:32 < marklar|omni> just saw a giant praying mantis outside 07:32 < marklar|omni> scary-ass insect 07:37 < _cheerios> huomenta 07:55 < E_mE> marklar|omni: step on it ;) 07:55 < E_mE> or stab it =P 07:57 < v-dogg> *sigh* 07:57 < _cheerios> 4chan it! 07:57 < v-dogg> *SIGH* 07:57 * v-dogg wants to stab someone or something, too 07:57 < _cheerios> someone drank your office milk? 07:58 < v-dogg> Finnish banks have this nice xml standard for electronic invoices 07:58 < v-dogg> and, of course, our software can output that 08:00 < v-dogg> now, after Sampo Bank switched to a new system, we need to remove a few newlines from the xml data because they can't parse the xml otherwise 08:00 * v-dogg wants to send XML for Dummies to someone 08:01 < v-dogg> we have already _added_ a few newlines for Nordea (another bank) 08:02 < v-dogg> luckily those aren't the ones Sampo trips over 08:03 < MikeSeth> ohai 08:03 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: make picturz! 08:03 < _cheerios> newlines tripping xml parsing? eh? eh? not suprised its sampo :) 08:05 < marklar|omni> kek 08:05 < marklar|omni> ZOMG NEWLINES IN XML 08:05 < v-dogg> me neither 08:05 < marklar|omni> HOW CAN BE 08:05 < marklar|omni> :( 08:05 < marklar|omni> MikeSeth: the guy with the 5k USD camera isn't here yet 08:05 < marklar|omni> I'd make some real nice pics 08:05 < v-dogg> no can haz empty lines in the data, parse error 08:05 < marklar|omni> ;[ 08:08 < Whisller> shit is there no good svn client for mac os x O.o I thought svnx is good but it doesn't support merge O.o 08:11 -!- E_mA [n=jeramy@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has joined #agavi 08:13 < Whisller> ehh shit 08:14 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 08:16 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has joined #agavi 08:16 < Flukey> morning champs 08:17 -!- E_mE [n=jeramy@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 08:17 -!- E_mA is now known as E_mE 08:36 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 09:00 < marklar|omni> wassah 09:01 < MikeSeth> loldongs 09:05 < marklar|omni> sup maik 09:05 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: paid arnona 09:06 < MikeSeth> also the new bill, so total is ~3k and not ~2k 09:06 < marklar|omni> did you cash my check? 09:06 < MikeSeth> no, tomorrow, was too late after the municipality 09:06 < MikeSeth> had to go to work 09:06 < marklar|omni> k 09:07 < marklar|omni> whaddaya mean total is 3k 09:07 < marklar|omni> sec 09:11 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 09:20 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 09:20 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 09:30 < Macen> apple bootcamp ftw 09:30 < Macen> brb 09:30 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [" E_mE: logarithms aren't hard, they're just inverse exponents"] 09:31 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 09:32 < E_mE> how can i find out the encoding type of a web page? 09:32 < E_mE> which has not meta tags or informtation about it 09:37 < v-dogg> headers 09:39 < E_mE> response headers saying nothing :( 09:40 < v-dogg> then there is only guessing 09:40 < v-dogg> what does firefox say (Tools -> Page Info) 09:42 < E_mE> ah yes there is 09:42 < E_mE> ISO-8859-1 09:42 < E_mE> thank you :) 09:59 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@apn-77-113-177-137.gprs.plus.pl] has quit [] 10:05 < Flukey> http://pastebin.com/m35d4eacc . How can i get it to return t.type in the array? 10:06 < v-dogg> #doctrine, perhaps 10:07 < E_mE> would there be a reason why when i request index.php that a blank page is returned 10:07 < E_mE> i even put var_dump();die; in it too 10:07 < E_mE> and it wont var_dump me value 10:15 < v-dogg> do you have something before that var_dump()? 10:18 < E_mE> its okay now, 10:18 < E_mE> was php config 10:18 < E_mE> but now im getting this XML error: 10:18 < E_mE> XML Schema validation of configuration file "/var/www/html/sgr_old/admin/agavi/config/defaults/config_handlers.xml" failed due to the following errors: 10:18 < E_mE> Line 4: Element 'handlers', [lax WC]: The namespace of the element is not allowed. 10:18 < E_mE> im assuming it might be to do with the libxml? 10:21 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 10:23 < MikeSeth> E_mE: make sure it's 2.6.30+ 10:23 < E_mE> 2.6.16 atm 10:24 < MikeSeth> duh 10:25 * v-dogg slaps E_mE 10:25 < v-dogg> newbie ;) 10:25 < v-dogg> http://trac.agavi.org/wiki/WTF 10:26 < v-dogg> people usually get this after 1-2 days with agavi :) 10:26 < v-dogg> "A typical version exhibiting this bug is 2.6.16" 10:26 * E_mE feels shameful! :( 10:27 < E_mE> i shall bookmark that bitch of a page ;) 10:28 < E_mE> v-dogg: that was a rightfully good brouse .. thank yo 10:28 < E_mE> u 10:31 < Flukey> http://pastebin.com/m3d4a923e :-( 10:33 < v-dogg> #doctrine :( 10:33 < Flukey> they don't answer :( 10:33 < v-dogg> those bastards! 10:33 < v-dogg> kill'em 10:33 < Macen> lol 10:34 < Flukey> i'm so alone in doctrine :( *smallest violin* 10:35 < v-dogg> I would love to say "switch to propel" but unfortunately #propel is even worse :) 10:35 < Flukey> never had any problems with propel :P 10:35 * Flukey holds help up high 10:35 < v-dogg> the mailing list is active and helpfull, tho 10:35 < Flukey> *hold head 10:42 < marklar|omni> * fail 10:44 < MikeSeth> Flukey: ->execute(array(), Doctrine::FETCH_ARRAY) 10:44 < MikeSeth> http://pastebin.com/m3d4a923e <- 10:49 < Flukey> MikeSeth: thanks, but i would prefer it to be like this.... http://pastebin.com/m76459fe4 10:50 < MikeSeth> Flukey: e.g. w/o the linked objects? 10:50 < Flukey> precisely MikeSeth :) 10:50 < MikeSeth> then in SQL SELECT only select the primary object 10:51 < MikeSeth> er 10:51 < MikeSeth> s/SQL/DQL 10:52 < Flukey> .... :S ? 10:54 < MikeSeth> Flukey: $q->from('WhatEverObject o')->leftJoin('o.SomeOtherObject p')->where('p.someField = ?') etc 10:54 < MikeSeth> or maybe even more explicit 10:54 < MikeSeth> $q->select('o.*')->from(...) 10:55 < Flukey> $result = $q->select('o.*, t.*') 10:55 < Flukey> ->from("QuestionnaireQuestionsOptionsRecord o") 10:55 < Flukey> ->leftJoin('o.QuestionsType t') 10:55 < Flukey> ->where('o.questionnaire_questions_id = :id', array(':id' => 14)) 10:55 < Flukey> ->execute(); 10:55 < Flukey> apologies for pasting in here :) 10:56 < Flukey> it doesn't like that :( 10:56 < MikeSeth> wait i are confus 10:56 < MikeSeth> why are you left joining t then? 10:56 < Flukey> ditto heh 10:57 < MikeSeth> if you dont mean to return it why join it? 10:57 < Flukey> i do want to return it, i want to return o.* and t.type 10:57 < MikeSeth> ooh 10:57 < MikeSeth> Doctrine is buggy 10:57 < Flukey> i don't like it :-( 10:58 < MikeSeth> when I had to do something like this I just did SELECT o.*, o.foreign_object_id, t.field 10:58 < MikeSeth> dunno if you have to select _id explicitly if you already selected * 10:58 < MikeSeth> but if you havent selected _id either way then the associated object is also not returned 11:00 < Flukey> hmmmnn. what a pain. 11:01 < Flukey> $result = $q->select('o.*, o.QuestionsType, t.type') alas, no :( 11:01 < MikeSeth> what do you get tho? 11:02 < MikeSeth> also not o.QuestionsType 11:02 < MikeSeth> you can only select fields 11:02 < MikeSeth> (imo) 11:03 < Flukey> it only returns everything in o.* 11:03 < Flukey> no t.type 11:04 < Flukey> so what do you mean about o.foreign_object_id? 11:04 < MikeSeth> well if you receive results as objects and touch the related object it would lazy-load it if you didnt ask for it in the query 11:05 < MikeSeth> if you do this in array there is no lazy loading 11:05 < MikeSeth> so you need to be explicit that you're requesting the related object in the query 11:05 < Flukey> okay. so in my case it would be? :) (afayk) 11:05 < MikeSeth> I donno it fetches the related object already, no? 11:06 < MikeSeth> QuestionsType 11:06 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@apn-77-113-177-137.gprs.plus.pl] has joined #agavi 11:06 < MikeSeth> also I see that it returns an array of QuestionsType, you sure you have the relation set to hasOne and not hasMany? 11:09 < Flukey> $this->hasMany('QuestionnaireQuestionsTypeRecord as QuestionsType', array('local' => 'questionnaire_questions_type_id', 'foreign' => 'id')); 11:09 < Flukey> def hasMany 11:10 < MikeSeth> so how are you asking for a single field when there are many associated objects? 11:13 < Flukey> indeed, but i tried with hasOne and i got the same result. 11:13 < Flukey> This is what the sql returns http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/375647/Picture_2.png.html 11:13 < Flukey> thats what i want to have in the array 11:13 < Flukey> just a straight forward array 11:14 < MikeSeth> well IMO Doctrine cant do that, write a simple wrapper to alter the result 11:15 < Flukey> but that should be basic functionality, should it not? 11:16 < MikeSeth> lemme look into my code 11:16 < Flukey> thanks buddy :) 11:17 < MikeSeth> $q = Doctrine_Query::create()-> 11:17 < MikeSeth> select('h.*, c.code as code, c.player_id, p')-> 11:17 < MikeSeth> from('GuessingGameRoundHistory h')-> 11:17 < MikeSeth> leftJoin('h.Coupon c')-> 11:17 < MikeSeth> leftJoin('c.Player p')-> 11:17 < MikeSeth> where('h.round_id = ?')-> 11:17 < MikeSeth> orderBy('h.ts DESC')->limit($last); 11:17 < MikeSeth> this works 11:19 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@ip-87-108-51-178.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 11:20 < Flukey> hhmmmm but thats setup exactly like mine 11:20 < Flukey> :s 11:20 < Flukey> what do you have that i don't.... 11:22 < MikeSeth> t.foo AS foo 11:22 < Flukey> Message 11:22 < Flukey> =========== 11:22 < Flukey> Unknown column foo 11:22 < MikeSeth> well not literally foo lol 11:23 < Flukey> haha 11:23 < MikeSeth> select('h.*, c.code as code, c.player_id, p') 11:23 < Flukey> if i do t.type as type 11:23 < Flukey> it doesn't return type in the array 11:23 < MikeSeth> careful, type may be a reserved keyword 11:23 < Flukey> in the array it makes 'questionnaire_questions_type_id' => null 11:23 < Flukey> if i don't have it in 11:23 < Flukey> then 11:23 < Flukey> it's 11:23 < MikeSeth> check in the database that it isn't 11:24 < Flukey> 'questionnaire_questions_type_id' => string '3' (length=1) 11:24 < Flukey> intriguing 11:24 < Flukey> i quickly need to go to the opticians mike. Will you be on when i get back in about an hour? :) 11:24 < Flukey> i reallllllllly appreciate your help 11:25 < MikeSeth> idk 11:25 < MikeSeth> im going to lunch now 11:26 < Flukey> speak soon 11:26 < Flukey> thank you :) 11:26 < MikeSeth> np :> 12:16 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 12:57 < Macen> meeting :> 12:57 < Macen> baiii 12:57 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 13:00 < marklar|omni> meeeeeeeep~ 13:12 < Flukey> back :) 13:15 < Flukey> damn it. i have a meeting too :-( 13:15 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has joined #agavi 13:16 < Whisller> 25 C I love that weather. 13:26 < marklar|omni> hai 13:27 < marklar|omni> some wanadoo.nl faggot tried to hammer a vhost of mine for some reason 13:27 < marklar|omni> iptables++ 13:33 < Flukey> how can you be sure he's a 'faggot'? 13:34 < Flukey> douche. 13:36 < ttj_> If you define faggot as someone from wanadoo.nl who hammers marklar|omni's vhosts, then obviously it was a faggot, then. ::think 13:37 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 13:39 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 13:40 < Flukey> the general definition of faggot isn't 'someone from wanadoo.nl who hammers marklar|omni's vhosts' ::think 13:41 < ttj_> That doesn't mean that one couldn't redefine the term for the scope of this discussion. 13:41 < Flukey> or indeed renowned definition. 13:41 < Flukey> thats absurd 13:41 < Flukey> i'm going to re-define the word fuck as hello 13:42 < Flukey> fuck 13:42 < ttj_> Fuck to you too. 13:43 < Flukey> :P 13:44 < marklar|omni> kek 13:44 < marklar|omni> he's a faggot due to using wanadoo 13:44 < marklar|omni> faggot in the general meaning of the term; anal sex is optional 13:45 < ttj_> Fancy a fag? 13:46 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:47 < marklar|omni> nah, the smelly butts turn me off 13:47 < marklar|omni> :D~ 13:48 < ttj_> Touché. 13:51 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@ip-87-108-51-178.customer.academica.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:52 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@ip-87-108-51-178.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 13:53 < Flukey> MikeSeth: i still have that problem:( 13:53 < Flukey> And what do you use marklar|omni ? 14:02 < marklar|omni> a provider that does not ignore its abuse@ mailbox 14:02 -!- JamieWolf_ [n=JamieWol@dslb-084-059-109-120.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #agavi [] 14:37 -!- nfq_ [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has joined #agavi 14:38 < _cheerios> marklar|omni: does openbsd work the same when it comes to .ssh/authorized_keys ? plus where are the sshd_config settings located? 14:46 < _cheerios> found settings. now just to find where to restart things on openbsd 14:49 -!- saracen [n=saracen@cpc2-pete5-0-0-cust624.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:54 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:05 -!- saracen [n=saracen@cpc2-pete5-0-0-cust624.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #agavi 15:10 -!- saracen [n=saracen@cpc2-pete5-0-0-cust624.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:12 < marklar|omni> _cheerios: yes, /etc/ssh/ and /etc/rc.d/ 15:12 < marklar|omni> respectively 15:14 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@apn-77-113-177-137.gprs.plus.pl] has quit [] 15:16 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 15:18 -!- saracen [n=saracen@cpc2-pete5-0-0-cust624.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #agavi 15:32 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@ip-87-108-51-178.customer.academica.fi] has quit ["eek"] 15:55 -!- icyt is now known as IcyT 15:57 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [":: www.scopealley.com ::"] 15:59 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 16:16 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 16:19 < E_mE> wooo: http://www.overclock3d.net/news.php?/input_devices/ocz_prepares_neural_impulse_actuator_for_shipping_next_week/1 16:19 < E_mE> no more mouse =P 16:21 < _cheerios> went to the dentist today. found no holes. yet tooth feels very sensitive to stuff :| suggested http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juurihoito for next time if pain sticks. 16:21 < _cheerios> same in english http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_canal 16:22 < _cheerios> gaah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endodontic_therapy 16:23 < E_mE> eeee root canal fillings 16:24 < E_mE> i had one of those when i was about 11-12 years old 16:24 < E_mE> not fun 16:24 < _cheerios> it sure looks like a whole lot of fuck-you 16:27 < E_mE> i dought you will need a root canal filling if your teeth look fin 16:27 < E_mE> e 16:27 < E_mE> proberbly just sensative teeth 16:30 < E_mE> _cheerios: http://www.overclock3d.net/news.php?/input_devices/ocz_prepares_neural_impulse_actuator_for_shipping_next_week/1 <-- that whill cheer you up ;) 16:38 < Flukey> Oh i hate doctrine 16:38 < Flukey> i hate it so much 16:39 < _cheerios> Flukey: tell us, tell us! 16:39 < Flukey> once upon a time.... 16:39 < Flukey> :P 16:43 < _cheerios> E_mE: it is a scam? :) 16:44 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 16:44 < E_mE> _cheerios: dont believe so 16:49 < _cheerios> E_mE: http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.php?/input_devices/ocz_neural_impulse_actuator_nia_-_the_log/1 (review) 16:49 < E_mE> bai 16:51 < _cheerios> seems they were all frustrated with the thing as it was so hard to leanr 16:55 < _cheerios> hmm, the bananas are under attack! 16:59 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 16:59 -!- saracen [n=saracen@cpc2-pete5-0-0-cust624.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:05 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has quit [] 17:21 < MikeSeth> IT IS DONE 17:22 < MikeSeth> I am to become Wombert's bit^H^H^Hcontractor 17:23 < sikkle> MikeSeth; great news, bad news ? :) 17:24 < MikeSeth> well 17:24 < MikeSeth> basically i quit my job to work on Agavi full time 17:24 < MikeSeth> awesome news ;> 17:27 < sikkle> MikeSeth; does agavi have enough found to make you happy & 17:27 < sikkle> ? 17:28 < MikeSeth> I'm sure it does 17:28 < sikkle> hehe k 17:29 < sikkle> good news for agavi though 17:29 < sikkle> very very very good news 17:32 < MikeSeth> i hope so 17:32 < sikkle> it is. be confident 17:32 < sikkle> hehe 17:43 < _cheerios> woot? :) 17:43 < MikeSeth> _cheerios: what you heard 17:43 < MikeSeth> ;D 17:44 < _cheerios> nothing, just checked if its april 1st 17:46 -!- nfq_ [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:46 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has joined #agavi 18:00 < sikkle> MikeSeth; how much memory for standard page loading with agavi & doctrine loaded (average) indeed ? 18:02 < MikeSeth> sikkle: no idea! but I am about to start profiling something heavy and I'll make sure to tell of my findings 18:04 -!- impl [n=impl@atheme/member/impl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:09 -!- impl [n=impl@atheme/member/impl] has joined #agavi 18:16 < sikkle> MikeSeth; thanks. 18:29 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 18:35 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [] 18:36 < marklar|omni> ohai 18:36 < marklar|omni> heh 18:37 < marklar|omni> now all bugs -> maik 18:53 < E_mE[Stilgar]> is there a way i can see what the FPF will attempt to insert into a form? 18:53 < E_mE[Stilgar]> im passing data to the name space but its not appearing in my fields :( 18:54 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has quit [] 19:04 < E_mE[Stilgar]> does this look correct: 19:04 < E_mE[Stilgar]> $this->context->getRequest()->setAttribute( 19:04 < E_mE[Stilgar]> 'populate', 19:04 < E_mE[Stilgar]> new AgaviParameterHolder( array('newtimeslot' => $this->getAttribute('timeslot') ) 19:04 < E_mE[Stilgar]> ), 19:04 < E_mE[Stilgar]> 'org.agavi.filter.FormPopulationFilter'); 19:11 < v-dogg> depends on what your html form looks like 19:14 < E_mE[Stilgar]> does the form action have to be filled? 19:14 < v-dogg> I'd think so, if you don't specify form id 19:15 < E_mE[Stilgar]> ahhh, clever 19:15 < E_mE[Stilgar]> thank you 19:15 < E_mE[Stilgar]> wish there was some doci's about fpf 19:26 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-25-17.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #agavi 19:26 * _cheerios hugs kaos|work_ 19:27 < kaos|work_> hi 19:59 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 20:04 -!- LBO [i=LBO@dmo62.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 20:04 < LBO> Huomenta guys 20:05 < LBO> I've got a MVC architure question to You. 20:05 < LBO> Do U use models inside Views? 20:11 < MrJeep> I rarely have 20:11 < marklar|omni> LBO: no need usually 20:13 < LBO> uhum, thanks.... and did U read Mike Seths post about Active Record and his Model understending? 20:14 < _cheerios> but... mike... is crazy 20:15 < LBO> hehe... but do U agree with him? 20:16 < LBO> I partially do, in his understending Model is object with set of highly specialized methods 20:16 < marklar|omni> and? 20:17 < LBO> Model represents some entity and provides tasks (domain logic) 20:17 < LBO> is this correct aproach 20:17 < LBO> if I developed Model only for one task? 20:18 < LBO> In my last project i created Search Model 20:18 < v-dogg> what was that link the other day... 20:18 < LBO> and basicly it has only one task method, everything else are just setters and getters 20:19 < v-dogg> HERE: http://karwin.blogspot.com/2008/05/activerecord-does-not-suck.html 20:19 < LBO> It works for me... but after reading mikes post I'm not so sure anymore :) 20:20 < LBO> v-dogg: I red that, Mike reffered to those articles. 20:20 < LBO> reed* 20:21 < marklar|omni> * read 20:21 < marklar|omni> anyway 20:21 < LBO> : pffff 20:21 < LBO> :P 20:21 < marklar|omni> it depends on your application logic 20:21 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [] 20:21 < marklar|omni> in some cases -- it's proper and prudent 20:21 < marklar|omni> in other cases, it can be done differently 20:22 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 20:22 < _cheerios> listen to the voices inside your head while developing those models 20:23 < marklar|omni> yes 20:23 < marklar|omni> besides 20:23 < marklar|omni> mike knows where you live 20:23 < MikeSeth> I do 20:24 < MikeSeth> :D 20:24 < LBO> _cherios: I did - it works for me.. i have stable model interface which I have to stick in if I will change what is beneatch model (database,service) 20:24 < marklar|omni> as long as it works, can be maintained and free of sars code 20:25 < marklar|omni> why fix it? 20:25 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [Client Quit] 20:26 < LBO> I think U just answered the bothering me question - thanks marklar 20:26 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:26 < marklar|omni> LBO: always remember that people still run phpnuke sites 20:26 < marklar|omni> :< 20:27 < LBO> yeah, crappy :/ 20:27 < LBO> Oh, one more think 20:28 < LBO> does anybody of U have link to FlashMessenger Filter? 20:28 < LBO> (in bookmarks or something:)) 20:29 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 20:51 -!- MrJeep_ [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 21:04 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:13 -!- LBO [i=LBO@dmo62.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:13 < MikeSeth> where is wombart 21:14 < sikkle> MikeSeth; prolly left with ur money :) 21:16 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 22:01 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:35 -!- IcyT is now known as icyt 23:04 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-25-17.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [] 23:34 -!- impl [n=impl@atheme/member/impl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:34 -!- impl [n=impl@atheme/member/impl] has joined #agavi --- Day changed Tue Jun 03 2008 00:17 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-208-081.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 00:50 -!- erisco [n=erisco@brisco.kent.net] has joined #agavi 00:50 < erisco> huomenta 00:52 < erisco> coughphp, anyone look at it yet? 01:07 < sikkle> make me thing about qcodo 01:32 < erisco> sikkle, totally heard of that before 01:32 < erisco> gave it a shot but I was a little lost and confused 01:32 < erisco> too much generation for my taste 01:32 < sikkle> for a certain kind of apps, qcodo do a great job 01:33 < sikkle> but it's a god damn pain in the ass to build entire web application with that 01:33 < sikkle> application isnt just grid anymore indeed. 01:34 < erisco> I am still a fan of my forced indirection orm flavour... still working out relations, although I haven't given it much thought yet 01:34 < sikkle> don't like DOCt? 01:35 < erisco> its fine for most things, but was missing things I needed 01:35 < erisco> and what I needed was simplistic enough that I could get by with spending a couple hours throwing something together 01:36 < erisco> but then I began to like the concept... and started to come up with more ideas 01:36 < erisco> *shrug* its something I tinker with in my spare time 01:36 < erisco> gotta have a few of those things ;) 01:36 < erisco> sikkle, you know what is really great that I found? 01:36 < sikkle> nope ? 01:37 < erisco> I was all excited about my new computer, with 3gb of ram and all, so I could finally and efficiently use eclipse 01:37 < erisco> well, I get eclipse installed, go through the hassle of getting PDT to work 01:37 < erisco> but wasn't really impressed overall... I mean the functionality was convenient, like the code folding and inline documentation 01:38 < erisco> before I was just using GEDIT, which does not understand the source code 01:38 < erisco> I was really thrown off by eclipse's huge startup time 01:38 < sikkle> erisco; honestly i flight small, windows i use e-text, mac textmate. 01:38 < erisco> I'm kind of reckless and open and close apps only as I need em 01:38 < erisco> so eclipse just was not the answer for the majority of edits I need to do 01:39 < erisco> plus it seemed cumbersome with its whole "workspace" concept and all 01:39 < sikkle> i can't stand workspace realy 01:39 < sikkle> hehe 01:39 < impl> oh hai 01:39 < erisco> ANYWAYS, got searching and I found a guy who posted with similar findings I had 01:39 < erisco> and he said he found an editor called Geany 01:39 < erisco> I tried it... it rocks 01:40 < sikkle> yep small geany work well realy 01:40 < erisco> super-fast, as fast as gedit, but it supports nearly everything you'd want in a quick ide 01:40 < erisco> code folding, snippets, documentation, etc etc 01:40 < impl> I've been using Geany too recently, actually 01:40 < impl> it has some quirks 01:40 < erisco> I feel much more complete having an IDE by my side I can actually enjoy 01:40 < impl> but cool coincidence anyway :P 01:41 < erisco> impl, I noticed some strange things happen with code folding 01:41 < erisco> definitely had a weird bug happen once or twice... but it hasn't been overly inconvenient 01:41 < erisco> starts up fast again 01:41 < erisco> I've actually had more bugs in eclipse and PDT 01:43 < erisco> impl, do you have a copy of that lexer fholmstrom wrote? 01:44 < erisco> at least I think it was fholmstrom... the one for the abstract sql... TQL he called it 01:44 < erisco> I think I lost my copy 01:44 < impl> I don't think so 01:44 < impl> might still be in the logs though 01:45 < erisco> I tend to lose things in the backup process going from one computer to another 01:45 < erisco> one time I didn't realize the "www" on my desktop was a symlink 01:45 < erisco> that was fun :P 01:46 < erisco> now its an actual directory... to correct that problem 01:47 < impl> haha 01:49 < erisco> luckily most of it was recoverable 01:49 < erisco> lost one application that I had to rebuild 01:49 < erisco> at least it was a simple one 01:50 < erisco> actually one of the things was kind of neat. see I maintain a website that is on an IIS server 01:50 < erisco> it doesn't have PHP installed, so I cannot use include() or anything to get the site consistent 01:50 < erisco> now it does have ASP, (not even .NET), and I did that for a while 01:51 < erisco> the issue was that I cannot run ASP locally because I am on linux (at least I never heard of a way) 01:52 < erisco> so what I ended up doing was changing the asp to php. then I built a script that'd recursively crawl the site and curl the compiled output 01:52 < erisco> thankfully the site is static 01:52 < erisco> which is all fine and dandy,but I had lost the whole setup 01:53 < erisco> so this time I wrote a script to crawl the static site online by recursively checking for page links and reconstructing the dynamic version locally 01:53 < impl> o.O 01:53 < erisco> not overly exhilarating, but I thought it was neat :) 01:54 < erisco> so once again I have my local dynamic php copy and the server receives its static html pages 01:55 < erisco> it was neat because I got to use to programming to solve an out of the normal problem 01:55 < erisco> at least it was for me, anyways ;) 01:56 < erisco> impl, and you know what is even more impressive than my story? 01:57 < erisco> impl, the little time/date/weather taskbar-let actually gives me the correct temperature and conditions 01:58 < erisco> I've never had one of those work before. I was pleasantly surprised when I first took a look and it said there were broken clouds 01:58 < erisco> and it was 13 degrees outside 01:58 < erisco> I was like, phft, as if! 01:58 < erisco> well, I open my window and whoosh! cold air 01:58 < erisco> and I look up? broken clouds! 01:58 < erisco> hell, with that kind of accuracy I won't even need a window anymore 01:59 < erisco> which will ultimately save on heating, which means more money for my computing :) 02:19 < impl> lawl 02:47 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 03:51 -!- erisco [n=erisco@brisco.kent.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:14 -!- MrJeep_ [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["I Quit!"] 05:20 -!- MugeSo [n=Tanaka_K@220x218x27x242.ap220.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #agavi 05:45 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 06:32 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:02 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@ip-87-108-51-178.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 07:09 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@apn-77-113-162-218.gprs.plus.pl] has joined #agavi 07:09 < _cheerios> huomenta 07:10 < Whisller> morning 07:11 < E_mE> huomenta! 07:35 < MugeSo> huomenta! 07:40 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 07:42 < _cheerios> q: does zend encoded php stuff work with apc? 07:46 < fholmstrom> Wombert: you here? 07:51 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 07:56 < trophaeum> cheer zended files arent cached or something from memory 07:57 < _cheerios> just that there's no library collisions and that apc can be on while still using zend encoded php stuff 08:07 < MikeSeth> huomenta 08:07 < MikeSeth> sup guise 08:18 < marklar|omni> sup 08:25 < MikeSeth> dongs? 08:28 < marklar|omni> loldongz 08:32 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 08:47 -!- siksdkakd [i=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 08:48 -!- sikkle [i=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:50 -!- MugeSo [n=Tanaka_K@220x218x27x242.ap220.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]"] 09:02 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.139.214] has joined #agavi 09:09 < marklar|omni> sup maik 09:10 < Wombert> saracen: hi 09:13 < saracen> Hi =/ 09:13 < saracen> How did you know I only just got up =( 09:14 < digitarald> Huomenta! 09:16 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@ip-87-108-51-178.customer.academica.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:16 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@ip-87-108-51-178.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 09:17 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has joined #agavi 09:17 < Flukey> morning chaps 09:18 < saracen> morning 09:18 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:19 < digitarald> anybody uses git here? 09:22 < MikeSeth> I played with it a little 09:22 < MikeSeth> its nice and comfy 09:27 < MikeSeth> o/~ This was a triumph 09:29 < digitarald> I remember that some people here worked on a blog/cms with agavi? Is it already an open development? :) 09:30 < MikeSeth> digitarald: my project is very soon to go public - it's now in working state on an unrelated site, it has to be cleaned up etc 09:31 < digitarald> an unrelated site with an unrelated link? 09:32 < digitarald> I wanted to make my blog open-source, since u use it to teach some people a agavi 09:33 < MikeSeth> digitarald: it isn't public at the moment, we havent finished with it 09:33 < digitarald> since it shows all the basic pattern and does not use a database ... its a simple example 09:33 < MikeSeth> digitarald: but it's Coming Real Soon Now 09:33 < digitarald> B) 09:33 < Wombert> did you get the fpf stuff working saracen 09:35 < Flukey> doctrine has a bug :( 09:35 < Flukey> damn it 09:35 < MikeSeth> it has ZILLIONS 09:35 < MikeSeth> lol 09:36 < digitarald> I tried to use the Search template to make my life easier ... 09:36 < digitarald> ... didn't work to make my life easier but my nights longer 09:36 < digitarald> bugger 09:37 < digitarald> they really focus on the wrong milestones ... they should revamp their code base 09:37 < MikeSeth> they have MILESTONES? 09:37 < MikeSeth> heh 09:38 < digitarald> like ... "hey ... lets try that" ... 09:40 < _cheerios> digitarald: how's moo 1.2 coming along? 09:44 < Flukey> throws up a bug on this $results = $q->from("QuestionnaireQuestionsOptionsRecord o, QuestionnaireQuestionsTypeRecord t") 09:44 < Flukey> ->where("o.questionnaire_questions_type_id = t.id AND o.questionnaire_questions_id = $this->id") 09:44 < Flukey> ->execute(); 09:44 < Flukey> when i know for a fact that the sql is perfect that it produces 09:44 < Flukey> stupid doctrine 09:45 < digitarald> _cheerios: Coming Real Soon Now 09:45 < digitarald> we just moved to git/lighthouse 09:45 < digitarald> since the hoster sucks ... trac was down ... 09:45 < digitarald> maybe not the best server admins 09:46 < Wombert> whats the big deal with lighthouse 09:46 < Wombert> its a proprietary(?) commercial service 09:46 < Wombert> why is everyone using it 09:46 < Flukey> how do i execute raw sql in doctrine? (god help me!) 09:48 < MikeSeth> Flukey: using RawSql 09:48 < MikeSeth> Wombert: dunno wtf lighthouse is but git is full of win 09:48 < Flukey> Doctrine_RawSql? 09:48 < MikeSeth> at least because you get to work on multiple commits at the same time 09:48 < MikeSeth> Flukey: yep 09:49 < Wombert> just like everyone is using github 09:49 < Wombert> I mean wtf 09:50 < Flukey> MikeSeth: thanks 09:51 < digitarald> Wombert: because trac was very unstable and hosting from lighthouse is free for us 09:51 < Wombert> with this open source thing right? 09:51 < Wombert> http://sera.lighthouseapp.com/plans ? 09:51 < digitarald> right 09:51 < Wombert> but just two user accounts there? 09:51 < Wombert> or do you get a free gold account or what 09:51 < digitarald> I was not the one who opened the account 09:52 < digitarald> I think they just asked 09:52 < digitarald> and trac really killed the MT server 09:53 < _cheerios> 80$/mo to store your code. lolwtf 09:56 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@apn-77-113-162-218.gprs.plus.pl] has quit [] 10:01 < Wombert> no _cheerios 10:01 < Wombert> to store your tickets 10:01 < Wombert> not the code 10:06 < Flukey> http://pastebin.com/m836cfc2 any ideas guys? :) 10:07 < _cheerios> iirc, rawsql requires you to add {} around the stuff you select 10:07 < _cheerios> beyond that rawsql felt quite broken for anything bar simple queries 10:08 < _cheerios> also, iirc, you need to define the aliases in addComponent 10:09 < Flukey> ah, ok. that worked 10:09 < Flukey> now i get this doctrine problem: 10:09 < Flukey> ( ! ) Notice: Undefined index: parent in /home/jamie/www/bizedge/libs/doctrine/Doctrine/Hydrate.php on line 1190 10:09 < Flukey> damn it 10:10 < _cheerios> don't use rawsql is your solution :) 10:10 < _cheerios> or, doctrine? run! 10:11 < Flukey> what do you use? 10:13 < _cheerios> my own orm, which hasnt passed quality testing yet (and... that might take a long time :)) 10:17 < MikeSeth> Wombert: does shutdown() get called for models? 10:22 < Flukey> fuck sake. even with rawsql, doctrine still meddles with it. damn it :@ 10:22 < Flukey> :'( 10:22 < Flukey> parodn my language 10:25 < Wombert> no MikeSeth 10:26 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has left #agavi [] 10:34 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@ip-87-108-51-178.customer.academica.fi] has quit ["newlappyhereicome"] 10:37 < MikeSeth> doesnt matter 10:39 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 10:49 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 10:50 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 10:50 < kaos|work_> http://developers.facebook.com/news.php?blog=1&story=117 10:50 < kaos|work_> php4 10:50 < kaos|work_> procedural 10:50 < kaos|work_> ahahahaha 10:55 < digitarald> ok ... one more ticket for doctrine 10:58 < E_mE> kaos|work_: the whole of FB is php4? 10:58 < kaos|work_> E_mE: i just had a quick look 10:59 < kaos|work_> class HTTPNoResponseException extends HTTPException { 10:59 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@apn-77-113-162-218.gprs.plus.pl] has joined #agavi 10:59 < kaos|work_> was about the only php5 thing i could find 10:59 < E_mE> hehehe.. id never of thought it 11:06 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-208-081.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 11:15 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 11:16 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 11:22 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 11:26 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has quit [Client Quit] 11:28 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 11:29 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 12:10 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 12:15 -!- kaos|work_ is now known as kaos|work 12:18 < fholmstrom> hey guys 12:19 < fholmstrom> how do you like this security vuln. I found in the CMS i do maintanc eon 12:19 < fholmstrom> include $_GET['v']."body.inc"; 12:19 < fholmstrom> and url_include is ofc. on :) 12:21 < v-dogg> classic :) 12:21 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 12:24 < _cheerios> gotta love eclipse giving me a jvm error on start. i'll boot... 12:27 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:29 < MikeSeth> fholmstrom: autoowned grade a+++ would hax again 12:29 < Flukey> wow. i didn't think facebook would have such crap code 12:30 < MikeSeth> anyone stupid enough to pay $250m for a web site deserves php4 as end product 12:31 < fholmstrom> MikeSeth: haha ;D 12:32 < rick111> bottom line is genetlemen, no matter how pretty your code is, it's how the end product looks, I think facebook have done pretty well 12:32 < fholmstrom> MikeSeth: autoowned grade a+++ what? o.O 12:35 < MikeSeth> fholmstrom: old ebay joke 12:36 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 12:38 < MikeSeth> fholmstrom: "received bobcat instead of laptop; very good seller a++++ would buy again" 12:39 < MikeSeth> holy shit wrapping a whole invocation in a database transaction speeds up Doctrine 12:40 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 12:55 < fholmstrom> MikeSeth: ;P 12:55 < fholmstrom> never heard that before 13:02 < _cheerios> eclipse started again. seems it corrupted the workspace folder. how nice of eclipse. :| 13:10 -!- shesek` [n=shesek@212.29.214.231] has joined #agavi 13:11 < MikeSeth> fholmstrom: http://xkcd.com/325/ 13:16 < fholmstrom> lol 13:16 < fholmstrom> <3 xkcd 13:17 < fholmstrom> http://xkcd.com/327/ 13:17 < fholmstrom> by far the best one ever ;P 13:22 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:25 < MikeSeth> let's help #php get acquainted 13:30 < Flukey> rofl 13:50 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 14:00 * E_mE Rubs his hands like a evil sourcerer! 14:12 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 14:19 < MrJeep> so MikeSeth, how'S your agavi CMS app comming ? 14:20 < MikeSeth> MrJeep: it works. I'm gonna add a couple of features, strip it from the production templates and opensource it 14:21 < MrJeep> nice, is your code somewhere right now ? 14:21 < MikeSeth> not really but it will be soon 14:23 < MrJeep> k cool. Keep me updated 14:23 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has joined #agavi 14:23 < MrJeep> I really want to see this code, it's gonna be a good way for me to compare what I have done so far with models 14:24 < MikeSeth> ;> 14:26 < MrJeep> I mean if I'm doing stuff correctly or not... 14:35 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 14:44 -!- siksdkakd is now known as sikkle 14:44 < MikeSeth> MrJeep: I dont think anyone is 14:44 < MikeSeth> MrJeep: its the question of principles, no implementation is 100% correct 14:45 < MikeSeth> MrJeep: for example, passing ORM objects from models to views to templates is wrong 14:45 < MikeSeth> MrJeep: but we do it anyway 14:46 < MrJeep> well, I guess we have to be a little lazy somewhere 14:46 < MrJeep> but still, I asked for some code a long long time ago. I'll finally be able to see something 14:46 -!- keerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 14:47 < shesek`> you do it anyway? why? :\ 14:47 < shesek`> you break the MVC concept :S 14:49 < MikeSeth> shesek`: oh look who showed up! 14:49 < MikeSeth> hello 14:51 < shesek`> hey 14:51 < MikeSeth> welcome to the conspiracy! :> 14:51 -!- _cheerios is now known as Guest50210 14:51 < shesek`> :) 14:52 < shesek`> or you meant the general community by "we" ? 14:52 < shesek`> cause I rememner that you talked about it once 14:52 < MikeSeth> I talk about it all the time 14:52 < MikeSeth> Agavi makes people happy :> 14:53 -!- keerios is now known as _cheerios 14:53 < Flukey> almost makes me as happy as having gordon brown as my PM 9.9 14:53 < shesek`> yeah, my memory kinda sucks 14:53 < MikeSeth> would you rather Blair instead? 14:53 < MikeSeth> hehe 14:53 < shesek`> all that weed is f*ing me up ^_^ 14:53 < Flukey> Absolutely. At least he doesn't talk like a fish 14:54 < MikeSeth> shesek`: same here 14:54 < MikeSeth> Flukey: you should get rid of the damn conservatives 14:54 < MikeSeth> wtf is wrong with UK 14:54 < MrJeep> conservatievs are here in canada too... :( 14:55 < shesek`> wait, you live in israel, or am I confusing you with someone else ? 14:55 < MikeSeth> shesek`: yes, no. :> 14:55 < MikeSeth> MrJeep: your conservatives are way less retarded 14:55 < shesek`> ah. cool 15:00 < Flukey> Err, no. New labour are socialist dictating controlling bastards. 15:00 < Flukey> At least conversvatives take the small government approach 15:00 < Flukey> Labour needs to get ousted. ASAP. 15:01 < Flukey> Tory is the way forward for the UK. 15:01 < Flukey> *tories 15:03 < shesek`> MikeSeth, what do you do for living ? 15:03 < shesek`> (just wondering..) 15:08 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@apn-77-113-162-218.gprs.plus.pl] has quit [] 15:08 < MikeSeth> shesek`: codez 15:08 < MikeSeth> what else 15:20 -!- gingerbob [n=gingerbo@80.4.120.163] has joined #agavi 15:24 < gingerbob> evening 15:25 < MikeSeth> huomenta! 15:25 < gingerbob> quickie....... 15:26 < gingerbob> I have an attribute set in the Baseview if the site being viewed is from a certain domain 15:26 < gingerbob> that is needed by the executeWrite - how! 15:27 < MikeSeth> gingerbob: have routing set a certain request parameter, have view translate parameter into attribute 15:27 < MikeSeth> or, write a custom filter that sets a container attribute 15:27 < MikeSeth> (I wouldn't, not worth it) 15:28 < gingerbob> how do you get routing to set a param? 15:30 < MikeSeth> make a non-stopping rule 15:30 < E_mE> Flukey: Tories also are nutters who a front man that would hang is own children if it ment he would become leader... 15:30 < MikeSeth> stop="false" 15:30 < E_mE> whose* 15:30 < E_mE> sorry, With* 15:30 < gingerbob> the only things like that are to do with output_types atm 15:31 < gingerbob> so how do you set the rd param? 15:32 < MikeSeth> gingerbob: an interesting question, let's see 15:33 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:33 < MikeSeth> 15:33 < MikeSeth> 15:33 < MikeSeth> en 15:33 < MikeSeth> 15:34 < MikeSeth> 15:34 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has joined #agavi 15:34 < gingerbob> let me play.... 15:34 < gingerbob> :) 15:34 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 15:35 < E_mE> Flukey: and dont forget Maggie! ;) fucked millions of peoples lifes up! abosulte millions and did do fuck all to help to recover 15:35 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has joined #agavi 15:38 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 15:38 < E_mE> MikeSeth: can you cascade parameters by using the stop="false" method? so for example the locale route there will define a parameter wit hthe country code, and then moves off to anther rule? 15:38 < MikeSeth> E_mE: I never tried, but I bet you can ;> 15:38 < E_mE> which im assuming the example above describes 15:39 < MikeSeth> E_mE: and if you can't, fuck that and write a callback 15:39 < MikeSeth> E_mE: re: conservatives.. when we're done with scientology, I wonder what would be the next objective :> 15:39 < MikeSeth> :D 15:40 < Flukey> E_mE: Yes, well at least Maggie cleared most of the debt, now look at the crisis we're in. We owe absurd amounts of money to countries and the IMF. I shall continue this later. need to crack on :P 15:40 < gingerbob> Flukey - focus 15:41 < E_mE> Flukey: blame the world economy for that, not Labour 15:41 < gingerbob> MikeSeth: your example doesnt use the HTTP_HOST though 15:41 < E_mE> MikeSeth: after scientology, can you fight for proponital voting in the UK! so the Conservatives and Labour get a hot poker in there face ;) 15:41 < MikeSeth> gingerbob: so what, match against it instead 15:42 < gingerbob> MikeSeth: so put source in there? 15:42 < MikeSeth> E_mE: NYPA! Your country - you riot in it! :> 15:42 < MikeSeth> gingerbob: yep 15:42 < gingerbob> MikeSeth: and I want it to simply be true or false - what does in pattern? 15:43 < MikeSeth> gingerbob: whether it matches or not 15:43 < E_mE> MikeSeth: its not worth me doing that, im not allowed to vote :( 15:44 < MikeSeth> E_mE: ??? 15:44 < gingerbob> in your example - and the ones I have here - it assigns the var based on the pattern - I want a boolean based on the pattern 15:45 < E_mE> im not english, as a Germany im not allowed to vote for government 15:45 < E_mE> im allowed to vote for councils and stuff but no governments 15:46 < MikeSeth> you're not a citizen? 15:46 < MikeSeth> gingerbob: have the value default to false, and if matches, change it to true 15:46 < E_mE> well, ive not given my oath to the queen no 15:46 < E_mE> and Never will.. 15:47 < shesek`> MikeSeth, got a job? freelancer? 15:47 < MikeSeth> shesek`: you looking for one? 15:47 < shesek`> nope, just wondering.. 15:48 * shesek` just working as a programmer... nothing more 15:48 < MikeSeth> shesek`: I am quiting my current job to join Wombert's company 15:49 < shesek`> Wombert? 15:49 < shesek`> oh, Wombert is a nickname 15:50 < gingerbob> MikeSeth: :( 15:50 < gingerbob> 15:50 < gingerbob> echo $rd->getParameter('is_jlb'); 15:51 < MikeSeth> you can't do is_jlb="true" 15:51 < MikeSeth> 15:51 < MikeSeth> ... 15:51 < MikeSeth> 15:51 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:51 < gingerbob> but what bit sets is_jlb to true? 15:52 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 15:52 < MikeSeth> gingerbob: the bit 15:52 < gingerbob> that sets it to false! 15:52 < gingerbob> ahhhh! 15:52 < gingerbob> I see! 15:52 < gingerbob> ahhh! 15:52 < gingerbob> I see! 15:52 < gingerbob> carry on 15:52 < gingerbob> as you were 15:52 < gingerbob> nothing to see here 15:53 < MikeSeth> . 16:00 < E_mE> bai bai for now 16:00 * MikeSeth & 16:09 -!- siksdkakd [i=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 16:09 -!- sikkle [i=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:09 -!- siksdkakd [i=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:10 -!- sikkle [i=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 16:14 < marklar|omni> ohai 16:19 < MrJeep> marklar|omni: you're doing a lot of Java right ? 16:20 < marklar|omni> not right now 16:20 < marklar|omni> javascript now 16:20 < marklar|omni> what is it, tho? 16:44 -!- gingerbob [n=gingerbo@80.4.120.163] has quit [] 16:45 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has quit [] 16:47 -!- shesek` [n=shesek@212.29.214.231] has quit [] 16:50 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 16:50 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [Client Quit] 16:50 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 16:53 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has quit [] 16:55 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.139.214] has quit ["... is gone ... www.digitarald.de ... but he is coming back!"] 17:01 < marklar|omni> MrJeep? 17:01 < MrJeep> oh sorry 17:01 < MrJeep> well, I wantend your opinion about the speed of java compared to Visual Basic 6 17:01 < MrJeep> if it's faster 17:02 < MrJeep> and how much 17:14 < kaos|work> MrJeep: vb SIX ? 17:14 < kaos|work> vb 6 is probably slower then php :P 17:14 < MrJeep> yeah vb 6 17:14 < MrJeep> hehe 17:15 < kaos|work> the last vb 6 development happened uuh 17:15 < kaos|work> 1998 ? 17:15 < kaos|work> if you really want to use vb at least use vb.net 17:15 < kaos|work> but vb 6 17:15 < kaos|work> uuuh 17:15 < kaos|work> *g* 17:16 < _cheerios> someone converted ror again (nice site tho) http://framework.maintainable.com/ 17:16 < marklar|omni> uhm 17:17 < marklar|omni> MrJeep: are those the only options? 17:17 < marklar|omni> vb.net is probably faster for the most part 17:19 < kaos|work> marklar|omni: vb6 is an interpreted language while vb.net is compiled 17:19 < kaos|work> so i'd say vb.net is in every case faster 17:19 < MrJeep> yeah but I'm on mac 17:19 < marklar|omni> there's probably a crazy edge case where java outperforms it 17:19 < MrJeep> and the program will have to run on linux eventually 17:19 < marklar|omni> MrJeep: so python 17:19 < marklar|omni> +gtk 17:19 < marklar|omni> :D 17:20 < kaos|work> marklar|omni: hm, this depends on the java version 17:20 < kaos|work> java 6 is quite fast ;) 17:20 < marklar|omni> kaos|work: yeah, I know 17:20 < MrJeep> i think however it will be easier to me with Java 17:20 < marklar|omni> 1.6 is nice, 17:20 < marklar|omni> but it's gotten too verbose for me, dunno 17:20 < MrJeep> since I'm closer to java than python 17:20 < marklar|omni> especially after ~2kloc of javascript 17:20 < kaos|work> hehe 17:20 < marklar|omni> MrJeep: what's the program going to do? 17:21 < marklar|omni> I wrote a 100% ajax trading app in pure js 17:21 < MrJeep> simulate stock exchange 17:21 < marklar|omni> ie6 + moz 17:21 < marklar|omni> + opera + safari 17:21 < marklar|omni> 20ms total latency (excl. line lag) 17:21 < marklar|omni> ftw :D 17:21 < E_mE[Stilgar]> marklar|omni: your loving the JS up? 17:21 < marklar|omni> if done properly, it works 17:22 < marklar|omni> funnily enough, it's little and simple stuff that got me confused for a while 17:22 -!- kaos|work [n=dominik@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit [] 17:22 < marklar|omni> like substring(start,stop) not being (start,length) 17:22 < marklar|omni> but after a while, it just works 17:22 < marklar|omni> especially the OO side 17:22 < E_mE[Stilgar]> i quite like how everything in JS is pretty much an object in one form or another 17:22 < marklar|omni> yeah 17:22 < marklar|omni> the implicit type juggling is kinda annoying 17:22 < E_mE[Stilgar]> pretty damn powerful 17:23 < marklar|omni> but I just cast everything to the proper type before I actually act on the data 17:23 < marklar|omni> oddly enough, it all just works and pretty damn fast 17:23 < marklar|omni> plus it's as multiplatform as possible 17:23 -!- Guest50210 [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:23 < E_mE[Stilgar]> i wrote a mastermind game engine in JS 17:23 < marklar|omni> hehe 17:23 < E_mE[Stilgar]> though on respects to how compatible its with IE is another question 17:24 < E_mE[Stilgar]> but FF it works well 17:24 < E_mE[Stilgar]> all that is required is the programmer write an interface for it, ill give you a copy if you like? 17:24 < E_mE[Stilgar]> marklar|omni: have you experimented with closure in JS yet? 17:25 < marklar|omni> a little 17:25 < marklar|omni> can't deploy it live to clients so kinda useless for me for now 17:27 < E_mE[Stilgar]> working with mootools is quite nice :D 17:28 < marklar|omni> jquery for me :< 17:29 < E_mE[Stilgar]> :) 17:29 < E_mE[Stilgar]> bbl 17:29 < marklar|omni> kbye 17:51 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit ["bai"] 17:56 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [] 18:01 < _cheerios> is there a better way to kill a directory with lots of files than rm -rf ? this one seems to take forever + creates quite the load 18:06 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-73-211-99.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 18:21 < nfq> hey MikeSeth 18:22 < MikeSeth> oh hai 18:22 < nfq> I am hearing some good stuff about your future! 18:22 < nfq> ;) 18:33 < marklar|omni> ohai 18:37 -!- brasileiro__ [n=fdfdf@201-10-11-119.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #agavi 18:39 -!- icyt is now known as IcyT 18:39 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:05 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:06 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-212-200.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 19:07 < MikeSeth> nfq: true true 19:09 < MikeSeth> 19:00 i'm trying to use doctrine CLI to dump my data but i keep hitting the memory limit, i increased the limit to 1GB but it still does it. is this a bug or is it just too much data for php? 19:10 < MikeSeth> 19:01 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-212-200.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #doctrine 19:10 < MikeSeth> 19:04 nm i set it to 4GB and it worked :D 19:10 < MikeSeth> :< 19:10 < _cheerios> lol 19:19 < marklar|omni> ohai 19:19 < marklar|omni> zomg 19:35 < nfq> MikeSeth: glad to hear! 19:36 < MikeSeth> nfq: me too! 19:36 < MikeSeth> nfq: I'm dying for this 19:37 < nfq> Going to be real fun I think! 19:39 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 19:40 < marklar|omni> oh 19:40 < marklar|omni> i hax ur boat 19:46 -!- erisco [n=erisco@brisco.kent.net] has joined #agavi 19:50 < MikeSeth> nfq: it damn better be 19:53 < _cheerios> anyone else use lighttpd + latest php version + apc ? 19:55 < marklar|omni> yes, sans apc 19:55 < marklar|omni> on freebsd 7.0-release upgraded from 6.3 19:55 < marklar|omni> why, what happen~ 19:56 < erisco> lighttpd... any big reason to use it in a dev environment over apache? 19:57 < marklar|omni> I dev on whatever's going to be in prod 19:57 < erisco> always apache in my case 19:57 < marklar|omni> right~ 19:58 < erisco> anyone heard apache pronounced with the pache rhyming with cache? 19:58 < _cheerios> been getting this "too many open files" error lately on new deployments. never run into it before, wondering if php/apc has gained a bug on this matter. 19:58 < marklar|omni> only by frenchmen that also say mysequel 19:58 < erisco> heheh :P 19:58 < marklar|omni> and pronounce database as databuzz 19:58 < erisco> they do too 19:59 < marklar|omni> _cheerios: er, on tehlunix? 19:59 < _cheerios> yep 19:59 < marklar|omni> or bsd? 19:59 < marklar|omni> oh lunixfail 19:59 < marklar|omni> I'd ask you for sysctl and stuff 19:59 < marklar|omni> but lunix is fail by default 19:59 < marklar|omni> so pf 19:59 < _cheerios> it doesnt happen on my current stuff. just on new deployments ive done. 19:59 < marklar|omni> meh 19:59 < _cheerios> which have never versions of php+apc 19:59 < marklar|omni> what's the load? 19:59 < _cheerios> like, nothing at all. 19:59 < marklar|omni> rp/s? 19:59 < marklar|omni> s/\///g 20:00 < marklar|omni> blah tired 20:00 < _cheerios> i have to restart the process every 2hrs, so it doesnt build up enough open files in that time to choke 20:00 < marklar|omni> um 20:00 < erisco> plaster over the hole with a cron job then :P 20:00 < marklar|omni> whats the ulimit 20:01 < _cheerios> its 1024 on a working conifg. i upped it to 36000 on the ones that are failing 20:01 < marklar|omni> hm 20:01 < marklar|omni> wanna gimme a shell? 20:02 < marklar|omni> which kernel 20:02 < _cheerios> 2.6.18-6-xen-amd64 #1 SMP 20:02 < marklar|omni> k 20:02 < marklar|omni> gimme shellz 20:33 < E_mE[Stilgar]> suggestions please: which do you think is the better approach for this scenario, ive got a schedule which i've got an action to add new 2 hour time slots into, should i perform error checking for double bookings via a validator or manually check in the action? 20:38 -!- erisco [n=erisco@brisco.kent.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:41 < E_mE[Stilgar]> nudge _cheerios, ill pick on you for a suggestion.. :) 20:43 < _cheerios> i have no sides on that issue 20:44 < v-dogg> E_mE[Stilgar]: why shouldn't you do it as a normal validation? 20:45 < E_mE[Stilgar]> i think i will go with the action->model approach and have the insert function return a status 20:45 < E_mE[Stilgar]> v-dogg: what do you mean? 20:47 < E_mE[Stilgar]> v-dogg: what do you mean by "normal validation"? 20:47 < _cheerios> xml, validate* 20:47 < v-dogg> I mean do you have a reason not to use validation and wait until the execute* is called? 20:48 < E_mE[Stilgar]> not really, only need to perform a DB query 20:54 < E_mE[Stilgar]> if validation fails, how does it know which view to use? does it use the default one? 20:57 -!- what_ [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 20:58 < v-dogg> handleWriteError() { return 'MyErrorView'; } 20:58 < v-dogg> or put logic in there 20:59 < v-dogg> you can ask the validation manager what caused the validation to fail 20:59 < v-dogg> (how to do that, you need to bug Wombs :) 20:59 < E_mE[Stilgar]> i was used validateWrite() { return false; } 21:00 < E_mE[Stilgar]> and perform data checks in that function 21:00 < marklar|omni> return 'ReplaceUserTryAgainView'; 21:00 < E_mE[Stilgar]> but ill put the view name into the handleWrite 21:00 < E_mE[Stilgar]> marklar|omni: thanks :D 21:00 < marklar|omni> np anytime drvthru 21:01 * E_mE[Stilgar] kisses the workings of agavi! 21:02 -!- erisco [n=erisco@brisco.kent.net] has joined #agavi 21:02 < E_mE[Stilgar]> thank you v-dogg :D 21:12 < what_> grrr 21:12 < what_> anyone know how to change output_type in action? 21:12 < what_> without using routing.xml? 21:13 < Wombert> you change it in the view 21:13 < Wombert> not in the action 21:13 < Wombert> it does not belong into the action 21:13 < Wombert> you can use a view's initialize() method 21:13 < Wombert> remember to call parent::initialize() first 21:13 < Wombert> then $this->getContainer()->setOutputType(...); 21:13 < Wombert> why "grrr"? 21:13 < what_> oh thanks 21:14 < impl> wat 21:14 < marklar|omni> wathappen 21:14 < what_> becouse a was searching in agavi sources for a while and i couldnt find anything good for me 21:15 < what_> i tried in action setOutputtype 21:16 < what_> i dont like to ask i prefer to find solutions myself but agavi docs are empty :) 21:16 < what_> and thats way i said "grrr" 21:16 < what_> ;) 21:17 * E_mE[Stilgar] passes what_ a grappa .. chill :) 21:19 -!- brasileiro__ [n=fdfdf@201-10-11-119.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [] 21:22 -!- what_ is now known as _stachu 21:35 < _cheerios> re: lighttpd woes, apc 3.0.18 is bugged. end of story. 21:38 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-73-211-99.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:40 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-73-211-99.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 21:44 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit ["sleep"] 22:26 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-73-211-99.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:53 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 23:07 < erisco> impl, I think I need to explode my idea into more than one class now 23:07 < erisco> impl, although it deviates from the original desire of simplicity, I have ideas... and its fun... so why not :) 23:07 < impl> erisco: Go for it :D 23:09 < erisco> impl, the trouble I have is figuring out what the separation should be 23:09 < erisco> I haven't played with forced indirection before... and one class seems to be able to cleanly deal with things API-wise 23:10 < erisco> but behind the scenes it gets cluttered... yet there isn't any apparent separation need 23:10 < erisco> well look at Doctrine. 1000-2000 line scripts... that is what I am considering cluttered from the standpoint that a hell of a lot of logic is being done in a single file 23:11 < erisco> now that my script is nearing 1000 lines it just feels unwieldy 23:12 < erisco> I seem to get a sense of source files just being too lengthy... just like you get the feeling a line of code is too long and needs to be broken up 23:12 < impl> Yeah 23:13 < impl> you could probably separate out the adapters for the connectivity 23:13 < erisco> I have ideas for things, but one I am still struggling with is a robust relations system 23:13 < erisco> when you gave an example of the cross reference table adding information to the relation 23:14 < erisco> well, that brings up a lot of potentially complex situations 23:14 < erisco> I actually shortly later needed to design a survey that could have (but didn't end up) taking advantage of the cross reference table to do just that 23:15 < erisco> its also a question of how the API ties into the pseudo-sql language 23:15 < impl> aye 23:16 < erisco> one thing that really limits options is the need for efficiency 23:16 < erisco> Doctrine does that through DQL, where you can do joins and whatnot to load many things at the same time 23:17 < impl> Doctrine also caches that 23:17 < impl> (the query) 23:17 < erisco> but the DQL still needs some API to call to even register the fact 23:17 < erisco> impl, yes, thanks to fholmstrom's lexer caching should be easy 23:18 < erisco> if you are talking about the specific translation between the pseudo-sql and the rdbms sql 23:18 < impl> aye 23:19 < erisco> I believe it should also be possible to cache what relationships are already loaded 23:19 < erisco> I believe Doctrine does this, although I am not entirely sure 23:20 < erisco> in most or some cases anyways the relationships could be updated without having to query 23:20 < erisco> until execution destruction of course 23:20 < erisco> I think what I'd want to do is figure out a lazy system 23:21 < erisco> where you may state to load X and Y, but until you actually want to use either of them none of them are queried for 23:21 < erisco> that way you could state you are going to use X and all it's Y's in a one-to-many relationship, say, in separate API calls 23:22 < erisco> then the query is formulated that combines all necessary selection, or a best number of queries to accomplish things 23:22 < erisco> in Doctrine things are loaded as you state you need them, which is why they tell you to use joins in DQL instead 23:23 < erisco> that's all I am essentially theorizing on how to fix 23:23 < impl> how 'separate' are the API calls? 23:24 < erisco> well they'd be too different method calls 23:24 < erisco> I could use some wacky __call voodoo to try and comprehend what should be loaded and whatnot 23:24 < erisco> but that gets ridiculous 23:24 < impl> I think __call is stupid :\ 23:25 < erisco> so I would state something like $model->get(5); then I would state $model->getRelation(5, 'friends'); 23:25 < erisco> say $model was like $userTable or something, and friends was an alias for a one-to-many relationship in a self reference 23:25 < erisco> nothing would be executed until either one of 5's friends was accessed or 5 was accessed 23:26 < erisco> and because I am returning handles this could be possible 23:27 < erisco> $model->getRelation(); would likely be more like loadRelation, because it could not return even an array of handles without querying 23:27 < impl> aye 23:27 < erisco> I could do something like $model->startTransaction(); then do all my getting, then $model->endTransaction(); or whatever 23:27 < erisco> which would also tell the model when I am done specifying everything 23:28 < erisco> I think I could do it more subtly though 23:28 < erisco> ultimate goal is to A) figure out how DQL communicates with the rest of Doctrine 23:29 < erisco> and if I don't like it then plan B is to be able to have a working querying system based on API calls 23:29 < erisco> and then the query language is a nice wrapper over top of it for defining your own getters and whatnot 23:30 < erisco> just like I could make a proxy class to remove the look of forced indirection 23:30 < erisco> $user = new User(5); would simply pass all var lookups and method calls to the $userTable and supply the handle automatically 23:30 < impl> How would one define a getter in that fashion? 23:30 < erisco> now you are back to your traditional API 23:30 < impl> (in the querying) 23:31 < erisco> how do you mean? 23:31 < impl> in the wrapper you talked about 23:31 < erisco> you mean the pseudo-sql? 23:31 < impl> 19:29:28 < erisco> and then the query language is a nice wrapper over top of it for defining your own getters and whatnot 23:31 < impl> yeah 23:32 < erisco> well if you had, say, getLatest10Articles() 23:32 < Wombert> wat 23:32 < Wombert> nonono 23:32 -!- saracen [n=saracen@cpc2-pete5-0-0-cust624.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #agavi 23:32 < Wombert> retrieve 23:32 < Wombert> see 23:32 < Wombert> I saw this other orm 23:32 < erisco> you're here to argue Wombert. I need ideas 23:32 < Wombert> CoughPHP? 23:32 < Wombert> theyhave 23:32 < erisco> yeah I saw coughphp 23:32 < Wombert> getLolz_Collection 23:32 < Wombert> such a fail 23:32 < erisco> I mentioned it yesterday 23:32 < Wombert> just cause they also have getters for fields 23:32 < Wombert> I mean wtf 23:32 < Wombert> how hard can it be to have... getName(), but retrieveCategories() 23:32 * Wombert shakes head 23:33 < erisco> oh, I see, geg 23:33 < erisco> heh* 23:33 < Wombert> I mean it's not like an ORM is not allowed to reflect the relational structure 23:33 < erisco> yeah that's a naming issue 23:33 < Wombert> I'd also make this php 5.3+ 23:33 < erisco> good idea actually 23:33 < Wombert> with LSB 23:33 < erisco> as soon as I can find out a shorter word for retrieve 23:34 < Wombert> grab 23:34 < Wombert> load 23:34 < Wombert> find 23:34 < erisco> because I cannot spell it... 23:34 -!- _stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 23:34 < Wombert> fetch 23:34 < erisco> fetch is great 23:34 < Wombert> it is! 23:34 < Wombert> if you need any other help with stuff like this 23:34 < Wombert> I'll be around 23:34 < erisco> :P 23:34 * Wombert puts on his anally-retentive-api-consistency-nazi hat 23:34 < Wombert> actually, imma hit the sack 23:34 < impl> retrieve = eat, send = barf 23:34 < impl> name it like that 23:34 < Wombert> but you could talk tomorrow 23:34 < Wombert> haha 23:35 < Wombert> :> 23:35 < Wombert> -talk+ask 23:35 < Wombert> night 23:35 < erisco> anyways, the concept was that in that fetcher you could use the pseudo-sql language for clarity 23:35 < erisco> over the api calls 23:36 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-212-200.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 23:37 < erisco> I'll need to look over DQL the best I can to see how it actually communicates with doctrine 23:37 < erisco> it has to call methods of some sort... and if that is the case there must be a working API-query language in Doctrine 23:37 < erisco> even if it was internal 23:38 < erisco> I guess it doesn't have to quite be like that. it could just translate it to sql, get the result, and then dictate what records are hydrated 23:40 < erisco> as much as we agree to dislike Criteria I seem to see some good in it 23:41 < erisco> caching is impractical in that case though, if even possible 23:42 -!- IcyT is now known as icyt 23:42 < erisco> anyways, later all. 23:43 < erisco> huomenta! 23:43 < erisco> or I guess the inverse of that 23:43 -!- erisco [n=erisco@brisco.kent.net] has quit ["Leaving"] --- Day changed Wed Jun 04 2008 00:35 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 00:46 -!- MugeSo [n=Tanaka_K@220x218x27x242.ap220.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #agavi 00:47 < MugeSo> huomenta 01:05 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 01:07 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 01:08 -!- sikkle [i=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has 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-!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 06:40 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:40 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 07:06 < marklar|omni> ohai 07:10 < E_mE> huomenta!¬ 07:24 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 07:26 < splatch_> hello :) 07:30 < _cheerios> huomenta 07:38 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 07:39 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [Client Quit] 07:41 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:43 < fholmstrom> I WANT TO FUCKING KILL SOMEONE 07:43 < fholmstrom> HONESTLY 07:43 < fholmstrom> THE FUCKING AGONY OF BEING FORCED TO WORK WITH THIS PIECE OF SHIT 07:44 < v-dogg> more include($_GET[]) ?-) 07:44 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 07:44 < E_mE> hahahha include($_GET) 07:45 < E_mE> that can't honestly be true? 07:45 < fholmstrom> v-dogg: hm not not really 07:45 < fholmstrom> E_mE: yes I found a like yesterday 07:45 < fholmstrom> that was 07:45 < fholmstrom> include $__GET['v']; 07:45 < fholmstrom> eh $_GET ofc. 07:45 < E_mE> :| 07:46 < fholmstrom> but the main problem 07:46 < fholmstrom> I have with this app 07:46 < E_mE> wow, i love scripties ;) 07:46 < fholmstrom> is that it's HUGE 07:46 < fholmstrom> but not only that 07:46 < fholmstrom> it's a HUGE PIECE OF SHIT 07:46 < E_mE> what does it do? 07:46 < fholmstrom> it's a CMS 07:46 < E_mE> or whats the point of it 07:46 < E_mE> oh 07:46 < fholmstrom> that they sell to their customers 07:47 < E_mE> is this for that new company your working for (if my memory serves me correct) 07:47 < fholmstrom> no still the old 07:47 < fholmstrom> not done here yet 07:47 < fholmstrom> the thing about this cms 07:47 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 07:47 < fholmstrom> is that the guy that did 90% of the work on it 07:47 < fholmstrom> have NO IDEA how to code properly 07:48 < fholmstrom> he was like the bosses friends 20yr old son 07:48 < E_mE> haha, no proffintialism applied to him 07:48 < fholmstrom> nope. 07:48 < E_mE> yeah i know the types 07:48 < fholmstrom> so it's like 250k lines or something of css/js/html/php mixed 07:48 < E_mE> proberbkly his first project he ever wrote 07:48 < fholmstrom> yepp 07:48 < fholmstrom> he doesnt even work as a programer now a days 07:48 < fholmstrom> since he didnt like it 07:48 < fholmstrom> ;< 07:49 < E_mE> Ha! 07:49 < fholmstrom> so yeah 07:49 < fholmstrom> its like 07:49 < fholmstrom> I cant fix things 07:49 < E_mE> is the HTML,JS inline with the PHP? 07:49 < fholmstrom> because I CANT FUCKING FIND THEM 07:49 < fholmstrom> E_mE: yes, EVERYWHERE 07:49 < fholmstrom> i've been trying to track down where he builds the top-navigational bar for like a day now 07:49 < fholmstrom> and I CANT FIND it 07:49 < E_mE> jesus.. that must be eye straining 07:50 < fholmstrom> lemme show you an example, 2 sec ;P 07:50 < E_mE> hehe ok 07:50 < E_mE> why not grep all the files for some assumed static HTML of the top-nav? 07:50 < fholmstrom> because the html is like 07:51 < fholmstrom> pieced together 07:51 < fholmstrom> over like 10 files 07:51 < fholmstrom> in different php functions 07:52 < E_mE> omg 07:52 < E_mE> thats pretty scary 07:52 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 07:53 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 07:54 < fholmstrom> realized im probably not allowed to show you the code 07:54 < fholmstrom> so yeah ;P 07:54 < fholmstrom> but it sucks 07:54 < fholmstrom> and when you cant fix things because you cant FIND them, then you know the person before you did something horribly wrong 07:55 < _cheerios> no need to see sucky code, tyvm :) 07:56 < fholmstrom> ;P 08:06 < MikeSeth> fholmstrom: maybe you should quit your job and become an Agavi contractor :D 08:22 < E_mE> a 5-gigapixel image of the milky way: http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/03/207256 08:22 < E_mE> though its not the fully sized one ;) 08:25 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:26 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 08:32 < fholmstrom> MikeSeth: *whistles* 08:32 < fholmstrom> Why would someone do this: float/**/:/**/none; 08:32 < fholmstrom> honestly? 08:32 < MikeSeth> fholmstrom: brain damage 08:32 < fholmstrom> I've never seen that before, anyone that got an idea+ ;P 08:32 < fholmstrom> he's done that 08:32 < fholmstrom> ON EVERY CSS ATTRIBUTE 08:32 < MikeSeth> fholmstrom: though maybe it's a browser-specific hack 08:33 < fholmstrom> no it's everywhere 08:33 < fholmstrom> on like every attribute 08:33 < MikeSeth> o/~ There are no atheists in the foxholes 08:33 * fholmstrom cries 08:34 < fholmstrom> Yeah I was thinking about the Agavi Contractor thingies btw 08:35 < fholmstrom> seems fun 08:35 < fholmstrom> MikeSeth: u a contractor with/for agavi? 08:37 < MikeSeth> fholmstrom: I am going to be! 08:37 < MikeSeth> I quit my day job 08:37 < MikeSeth> these are my last days full time 08:37 < fholmstrom> oh 08:37 < MikeSeth> and its gonna kick ass 08:37 < fholmstrom> so u going to be employed for W. then ? 08:37 < fholmstrom> *by 08:37 < MikeSeth> yeap 08:37 < fholmstrom> cool 08:38 < MikeSeth> fholmstrom: make no mistake, there is great future for Agavi :> 08:43 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:45 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 08:49 < MugeSo> I've found FPF bug, 08:49 * fholmstrom chokes on a piece of html and php intermized. 08:51 < marklar|omni> um heh 08:51 < marklar|omni> hai 08:51 < MikeSeth> MugeSo: hmmmm? 08:51 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: ur boat. 08:51 < marklar|omni> nono 08:51 < marklar|omni> UR boat. 08:51 < MikeSeth> NO U 08:51 < marklar|omni> it is... 08:51 < marklar|omni> haxd~ 08:52 < marklar|omni> HAXDED I TELL YEW 08:52 < fholmstrom> NANO FAG 08:52 < fholmstrom> ;( 08:53 < MugeSo> in my case, XML Declaration　is just before "", there is no space between them. 08:53 < MugeSo> 08:54 < MugeSo> so, http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/0.11/src/filter/AgaviFormPopulationFilter.class.php#L560 is not work. 08:54 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [":: www.scopealley.com ::"] 08:54 < v-dogg> MugeSo: not sure but I'd blame libxml 08:55 < MikeSeth> we always do :> 08:55 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: $25/mo perm. donation to Soma FM y/n? 08:55 < v-dogg> do you tell FPF to parse as html or xml? 08:55 < MugeSo> no, 08:56 < v-dogg> no? which 08:56 < v-dogg> default is xml 08:58 < MugeSo> ok, i' set it. 08:58 < MugeSo> i'll 09:02 < MugeSo> html 09:02 < MugeSo> right? 09:04 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has joined #agavi 09:04 < Flukey> morning all 09:04 < Flukey> houmenta even 09:04 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-212-200.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 09:05 < MugeSo> ok, i've check, and it' parse as html. 09:06 < MugeSo> but, there is xml XML Declaration :( 09:07 < marklar|omni> soma fm? 09:08 -!- Flukey is now known as Flukey_ 09:09 -!- Flukey_ is now known as Flukey 09:09 < MugeSo> libxml is 2.6.26. 09:12 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 09:15 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 09:21 < Wombert> problems MugeSo? 09:21 < MugeSo> yeah 09:22 < _cheerios> libxml... 09:22 < MugeSo> i think so. 09:24 < MugeSo> it' sure that doc->saveHTML() is called, but the out put includes xml declaration. 09:29 -!- _stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 09:30 < Wombert> MugeSo: okay, we should look into that 09:30 < Wombert> but its late in japan right? 09:30 -!- _stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Client Quit] 09:31 < MugeSo> humm 09:31 < Wombert> I don't have a lot of time right now 09:31 < Wombert> you're parsing a document in html mode? 09:31 < Wombert> and it has no xml prolog? 09:31 < MugeSo> it's time to home. 09:32 < Wombert> but after FPF processing, there is a prolog? 09:32 < MugeSo> yes, 09:32 < MugeSo> right 09:33 < MugeSo> maybe saveHTML do that :( 09:34 < Wombert> yes 09:34 < Wombert> but 09:34 < Wombert> fpf cleans that up 09:34 < Wombert> look at lines 560+ 09:34 < Wombert> is it a correct xml prolog, or does it have two question marks or something? 09:35 < Wombert> or do you have another filter that works on the document using dom? 09:35 < Wombert> and that inserts the prolog? 09:35 < MugeSo> i found that lines 560+　is not executed in html mode. 09:36 < Wombert> aha 09:36 < Wombert> strange 09:36 < Wombert> do you have cdata_fix off? 09:37 < MugeSo> use default. 09:37 < Wombert> oh wait that is another if branch 09:37 < Wombert> so neither 09:37 < Wombert> if($cfg['remove_auto_xml_prolog'] && !$hasXmlProlog) { 09:37 < Wombert> nor } elseif(!$cfg['parse_xhtml_as_xml']) { 09:37 < Wombert> ? 09:37 < Wombert> that means fpf thinks your document has a prolog 09:38 < Wombert> line 138+ 09:38 < Wombert> what's the result there? 09:38 < Wombert> oh wait 09:38 < Wombert> we add a prolog there 09:39 < Wombert> eh wtf 09:41 < Wombert> hm can't find the cause, MugeSo 09:41 < MikeSeth> oh boy 09:41 < MikeSeth> bork bork bork 09:41 < MikeSeth> ;> 09:44 -!- _stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 09:47 < MugeSo> now i commetout line 143 and prolog gone 09:50 < MugeSo> and, line 556 is in if-statement begining at line 485 09:51 < MugeSo> if it's html mode, line 556 is not executed. 09:51 < MugeSo> so, prolog is not cleaned. 09:52 < MugeSo> i think, 09:53 < MugeSo> I'm sorry, but i should go home. bye. 09:53 -!- MugeSo [n=Tanaka_K@220x218x27x242.ap220.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit 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I assume view, because if in the action, and i hit post on the form it throws up an error. 10:58 < E_mE> Flukey: depends, if you need to generate infromation which is passed to the view then in the action 10:58 < E_mE> but if its information that is always required by the view, then in the view 10:59 < E_mE> so ive got an example where upon the initial displaying of a form 10:59 < E_mE> i pass default values into it by executing ym model in the action which the view checks to see if it exists 10:59 < E_mE> if it does, it populates the form.. else if the action is not fired due to an error 10:59 < Flukey> ah, excellent 10:59 < E_mE> then the view will use the FPF to automatically fill the form with previous values entered by the user/.. understand? 10:59 < Flukey> done it right then :D 11:00 < Flukey> I have a model which retrieves a bunch of questions. the view gets the data. When the user posts the form and there is an error, i still need to display the questions etc. 11:00 < Flukey> Thanks E_mE 11:00 < E_mE> np :) 11:15 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@142.Red-83-55-79.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 11:22 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 11:26 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 11:27 -!- saracen [n=saracen@cpc2-pete5-0-0-cust624.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #agavi 11:31 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 11:32 -!- MugeSo [n=MugeSo@FLH9Aab091.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #agavi 11:33 < MugeSo> huomenta 11:33 < Wombert> hai MugeSo 11:33 < Wombert> what you discovered is indeed a bug 11:33 < Wombert> your document is not XHTML right? 11:34 < Wombert> it's an HTML doc? 11:34 < Wombert> and parsed in HTML mode 11:34 < MugeSo> yes, right 11:37 < MugeSo> html 4.01 Transitional document. 11:46 < Wombert> ok 11:51 < Wombert> guise 11:51 < Wombert> http://docs.php.net/manual/en/locale.composelocale.php 11:51 < Wombert> look at this bullsht 11:55 < v-dogg> ehm... :) 11:56 < Wombert> variant0, variant1, ... 11:56 < Wombert> IS HE FUCKING STUPID? 11:56 < Wombert> god 11:56 < Wombert> stas is so annoying 11:56 < Wombert> one of those zend guys that never write a single line of php code 11:56 < Wombert> he is a brilliant implementor, but he can't design things 11:56 < Wombert> IntlDateFormatter, but NumberFormatter 11:57 < Wombert> because DateFormatter collides with date extension 11:57 < Wombert> and he thinks the prefix is ugly 11:57 < Wombert> so no, he won't use the prefix for all classes from the Intl extension 11:57 < Wombert> ... 11:57 < Wombert> and I gave some i18n examples that don't work because the max locale length is 64 characters 11:57 < Wombert> his response: "that is not a frequent case" 11:57 < Wombert> ... 11:58 < Wombert> GRRRRRR 11:58 < Wombert> MugeSo: bugfix coming 11:59 < MugeSo> nice 12:00 < Wombert> MugeSo: try this please http://p.caboo.se/208566 12:00 < Wombert> let me know if it works 12:00 < marklar|omni> ohai 12:08 < CIA-5> david * r2515 /branches/0.11/CHANGELOG: changelog fix, refs #768 12:08 -!- MugeSo_ [n=MugeSo@FLH9Aab091.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #agavi 12:09 < Wombert> MugeSo_ ! 12:09 < Wombert> [14:00] Wombert: MugeSo: try this please http://p.caboo.se/208566 12:09 < Wombert> [14:00] Wombert: let me know if it works 12:09 < MugeSo_> ok, 12:10 < CIA-5> david * r2516 /trunk/CHANGELOG: merge [2515] 12:10 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 12:18 -!- MugeSo [n=MugeSo@FLH9Aab091.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:21 < MugeSo_> great!!! 12:22 < MugeSo_> prolog has gone!! 12:24 < MugeSo_> thanx Wombert ;) 12:34 < Wombert> cool 12:35 < v-dogg> *sigh* 12:35 < Macen> *groan* 12:35 < CIA-5> david * r2517 /branches/0.11/ (CHANGELOG src/filter/AgaviFormPopulationFilter.class.php): Fix #771: Form Population Filter incorrectly inserts XML prolog into HTML documents 12:35 < Macen> question 12:35 < v-dogg> jpgraph has issues 12:35 < CIA-5> david * r2518 /trunk/ (CHANGELOG src/filter/AgaviFormPopulationFilter.class.php): merge [2517] 12:35 < Macen> does agavi have a built in PDF output type? 12:35 < Macen> or would i need a custom model? 12:36 < Wombert> !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!? 12:36 < v-dogg> heh 12:36 < Wombert> agavi has _no_ built in output types, Macen 12:36 < Macen> so that's a no 12:36 < Macen> ok :) 12:36 < Wombert> a model? 12:36 < Wombert> what for? 12:36 < Wombert> ... 12:36 < Macen> ok 12:37 < Macen> the quote is for a web site that can display a very bespoke services with a wide range of categories .... and they don't have much/any documentation ... so the web site will create it for them 12:37 < Macen> s/a/ 12:37 < Macen> so basically it will print to pdf from it's own .html/.css 12:37 < Macen> it's ok i just didn't want to research something else and then find agavi did it 12:38 < v-dogg> what Wombert implies is this: Output belongs to: (a) Model, (b) View or (c) Controller 12:38 * Macen blank expression 12:39 * Wombert shakes head 12:39 < Wombert> macen 12:39 < Wombert> your action runs 12:39 < Wombert> and then yo 12:39 < Wombert> ur view runs 12:39 < Wombert> and if the output type is html 12:39 < Wombert> then it runs executeHtml() 12:39 < Wombert> and so on 12:39 < Wombert> so you define a pdf output type 12:39 < Wombert> you have executePdf() 12:39 < Macen> i get that 12:39 < Wombert> in there, you generate a pdf 12:39 < Macen> really, i do 12:39 < Wombert> with Zend_Pdf or something 12:39 < Macen> yes 12:39 < Wombert> ah you meant if we have built in pdf generation? 12:39 < Wombert> nah 12:40 < Wombert> on purpose 12:40 < Macen> ok 12:40 < Wombert> there are other solutions that solve this problem already 12:40 < Wombert> so we don't have to reinvent the wheel 12:40 < Macen> fine 12:40 < Wombert> that's the type of clutter we're trying to avoid since it adds so much bloat to frameworks 12:41 < Macen> yeah i take your point 12:41 < Wombert> you'd simply return the generated pdf content from executePdf() 12:41 < Wombert> define an without any layouts 12:41 < Wombert> just the http_headers thing with the correct Content-Type 12:41 < Macen> do things like this "plugin" well? 12:42 < Macen> or should i cost for a bit of hacking.. 12:42 < v-dogg> generating the pdf is not trivial (mostly because pdf libs suck) but co-operating with Agavi is not a problem 12:43 < Macen> i used pdf's a while back 12:43 < Macen> when there was no standard solutions 12:43 < Macen> i remember how much of a pain they were :> 12:43 < v-dogg> basically your executePdf() looks like "$pdf->doThisAndThat($this->getAttribute('foo')); return $pdf->render(); " 12:44 < Macen> i'll check it out 12:44 < Macen> thanks 12:46 -!- saracen [n=saracen@cpc2-pete5-0-0-cust624.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:48 < Macen> just for the record, i wasn't expecting (hoping maybe) agavi to have this function, as long as i know that what i am using *is* the best then i don't mind sourcing other things like this 12:48 < Macen> it's just a pain doing so heh 12:50 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 12:51 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 13:03 < Wombert> LOLOL 13:05 < Macen> ? 13:05 < Wombert> I despise of Zend 13:05 < Wombert> they make me sick 13:06 < Macen> write a blog about it 13:07 < v-dogg> what did they do now? 13:07 < Wombert> ext/intl 13:08 < Wombert> is deliberately ruined 13:08 < Wombert> because 13:08 < Wombert> a) stas, like any zend engineer, cannot design an API or a system 13:08 < Wombert> b) they want it in 5.2 for their fucking ZF and thus have retarded naming 13:08 < v-dogg> Wombert: we really should start some quality assurance movement 13:09 < v-dogg> because the project management of php development is currently just one heck of a mess 13:09 < v-dogg> i.e. there is no management 13:09 < Wombert> http://news.php.net/php.i18n/start/1223 13:09 < Wombert> nobody looks at this list 13:09 < Wombert> stas can do what he wants 13:10 < Wombert> its not discussed in internals 13:13 < MikeSeth> what the world needs is a complete rewrite of the fail that is PHP 13:14 < MikeSeth> or at least community process 13:16 < Macen> MikeSeth: what did you get on the typo test? 13:17 < Macen> You are 2nd out of 2 in your friends! 13:17 < Macen> doh ! 13:17 < Macen> Your typing is faster than 61.9% of all Facebook users! 13:17 < Macen> eh!! 13:17 < Macen> Tests Taken: 8 13:17 < Macen> Top Speed: 64 wpm 13:17 < Macen> Median: 56 wpm 13:17 < Macen> Slowest: 49 wpm 13:17 < Macen> yeh but all with 90%+ accuracy :< 13:17 < MikeSeth> Macen: what? 13:17 < MikeSeth> Wombert: god damn zend 13:18 < Macen> didn't you invite me ? 13:18 < Macen> on facebook 13:18 < MikeSeth> Macen: fuck no 13:18 < MikeSeth> Macen: I havent been on facebook for months 13:18 < Macen> ohohoh 13:18 < Macen> marklar|omni: !! 13:18 < Macen> what did you get??? 13:18 < MikeSeth> I even blocked it on my perimiter firewall so that other people dont go too 13:18 < Macen> !!!! 13:18 < Macen> Mark Rappoport 13:18 < Macen> 107 wpm 13:18 < Macen> WHAT 13:19 < Macen> no wai 13:19 < Macen> hackery clearly 13:19 < MikeSeth> lolwned 13:22 < E_mE> type speed means shit all macen 13:22 < Macen> what did you get? 30 :p 13:22 < Macen> lemme invite youz 13:23 < E_mE> i wouldn't even bother 13:23 < E_mE> no you dare invite me to a fb app and ill shot you ;) 13:23 < Macen> already done :x 13:23 < MikeSeth> close your failbook accounts before you make into nationalwide databases 13:23 < MikeSeth> dumbasses 13:23 < Macen> when they close phorm i'll think about it lol 13:23 < E_mE> my FB doesnt have my real name ;) 13:23 < E_mE> mwhaha 13:24 < E_mE> but my surname is quite unique 13:24 < E_mE> so id be isolated 13:32 < Flukey> Form Populaton filter error: Line 82: Attribute name redefined 13:33 < Flukey> quick fire, any ideas? :) 13:33 -!- saracen [n=saracen@cpc2-pete5-0-0-cust624.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #agavi 13:33 < v-dogg> Attribute name redefined 13:34 < v-dogg> just a guess :) 13:34 < Flukey> which means? 13:34 < Wombert> Flukey: you have a duplicate attribute in your markup 13:34 < Wombert> 13:34 < Flukey> oh ok 13:34 < Flukey> thank you 13:34 < Wombert> Flukey: if you have logging enabled 13:34 < Wombert> then FPF will log these errors for you 13:34 < Wombert> including the markup it processed 13:34 < Wombert> helps you find the line in question 13:34 < Flukey> thanks chaps :) 13:35 < MikeSeth> <3 fpf 13:36 < Flukey> line 73 where though? 13:36 < Flukey> as in the source or? 13:37 < Wombert> 82 it says 13:37 < Wombert> in the document the FPF parsed 13:38 < Wombert> [15:32] Flukey: Form Populaton filter error: Line 82: Attribute name redefined 13:38 < Wombert> that's like 82 in your final html document 13:38 < Flukey> oh i see. thank you :) 13:38 < Flukey> the only thing that could be doing it is a style attribute 13:39 < Flukey> http://pastebin.ca/1038623 13:40 < Flukey> (not nicely formatted. agreed ) 13:42 < v-dogg> 13:42 < v-dogg> name 13:43 < Flukey> haha 13:43 < Flukey> oops 13:43 < Flukey> how embarassing :$ 13:43 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:44 < Flukey> yay 13:44 < Flukey> thank you v-dogg 13:48 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 13:49 < Flukey> interesting "Line 91: Entity 'pound' not defined" 13:49 < Flukey> does this mean i have to define £ somewhere? 13:49 < Flukey> i mean is there an array of entities that form population filter uses? 13:50 < _cheerios> argh how do i disable the speaker in my laptop to get only sounds via headphones :| 13:51 < Wombert> Flukey: why don't you just insert a pound sign directly 13:51 < v-dogg> Flukey: use ʚ (or whateve pound is 13:51 < v-dogg> or insert it directly :) 13:51 < Wombert> with utf-8, you only really have to use html special chars (>, <, & and quotation marks) 13:51 < Wombert> the reason why it complains is because those entities are defined in the (X)HTML DTD 13:51 < Wombert> you have several options 13:51 < Wombert> a) insert the pound sign directly 13:52 < Wombert> b) insert a numeric entity, as v-dogg suggested 13:52 < Wombert> c) use HTML parsing mode (not recommended; DOM/libxml might ruin your markup) 13:52 < Flukey> Excellent .you guys are so helpful :P 13:52 < Flukey> Option A it is 13:52 < Flukey> thankies 13:53 < Wombert> d) tell FPF to tell DOM to resolve the external DTD and use it for parsing (not recommended, since its slow, at least unless your machine has XML catalog caching set up properly) 13:53 < Wombert> Flukey: you'll need  , too. that is not defined in xml, just html. so same problem again. use   for that 13:54 < Flukey> thank you :) 13:54 < Flukey> any plans for the form populaton filter to sort all this stuff out automagically? 13:54 < Flukey> ooooo it works :D 13:54 < Wombert> it can't 13:55 < Wombert> there is no way to do this 13:55 < Flukey> i'm quite impressed 13:55 < Flukey> that would of taken me ages to populate 50fields seperately 13:55 < Flukey> heh 13:55 < _cheerios> macs are taking over the office. white mac, black mac and even an air :< 13:55 < Wombert> :) 13:55 < Flukey> agavi: 1 mortal: 0 13:55 < Wombert> heh Flukey 13:55 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has joined #agavi 13:56 < Flukey> _cheerios: macbook pro's ftw :D 14:02 < E_mE> someone offered me a Powerbook G4 2ghz at work for £500 14:02 < E_mE> i kindly refused 14:04 < Wombert> E_mE: there is no such thing 14:04 < Wombert> 1.67GHz is the fastest 14:04 < Wombert> and... don't buy one 14:04 < Wombert> I like mine 14:04 < Wombert> except for the speed 14:04 < Wombert> the G4 is just unacceptably slow 14:05 < E_mE> eyah that what i thought 14:05 < E_mE> and the fact it was £500 was bit pricy 14:06 < E_mE> the laptop is looking at me and winking... :( 14:12 < E_mE> yet another reason to leave the UK: http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/04/government_database_volunteers/ 14:14 -!- rick111_afk [n=BigRyan@ryanpartington.com] has quit ["laters"] 14:15 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 14:17 -!- rick111 [n=BigRyan@ryanpartington.com] has joined #Agavi 14:18 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 14:20 -!- sikkle [n=sikk@bas4-montreal02-1096720986.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #agavi 14:24 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 14:51 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 14:51 -!- MugeSo_ [n=MugeSo@FLH9Aab091.kng.mesh.ad.jp] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]"] 14:51 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has quit [Client Quit] 15:04 < digitarald> choose your CMS wisely! 15:04 < digitarald> http://www.silverstripe.com/careers/successfullyinstalled 15:15 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:15 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 15:16 < _cheerios> hmm... shrimp macdonalds 15:18 < _cheerios> quite good! 15:21 < _cheerios> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7KFZ2iLHkI good finnish tune, right v-dogg! \o/ 15:33 < Flukey> thats quite a nice cms system 15:37 < digitarald> ... http://www.silverstripe.com/?debug_profile=true 15:37 < digitarald> maybe a bit too much debug code for a production environment 15:39 < trophaeum> that feels very much like an apd output? 15:40 -!- eremit [n=martin@p5B237967.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #agavi 15:43 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [" E_mE: logarithms aren't hard, they're just inverse exponents"] 15:45 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 15:48 < Flukey> hello again folks 15:49 < Flukey> on my doctrine record, i have preSave, can i access the session user id? 15:49 < Wombert> if your doctrine record knows the agavi context, yes 15:49 < Flukey> i.e. public function preSave($event){ $this->user_id = $rdSessionblahblah } 15:49 < Flukey> if it does, what would it be? 15:49 < Wombert> you should be able to access it through the connection 15:49 < Wombert> or the manager 15:51 < Flukey> ok, so how would i access it through the connection? 15:51 -!- icyt is now known as IcyT 15:51 < Flukey> (sorry, haven' touched the user sessions stuff yet) 15:52 < Wombert> I just realized that you can't 15:52 < Wombert> doctrine does not allow setting of arbitrary values on the manager/connection 15:52 < Flukey> yay. we've learnt something new :P 15:52 < Wombert> that's why we cannot set the agavi context 15:52 < Flukey> ok 15:52 < Flukey> i'll have to do it from the executeWrite then 15:52 < Flukey> damn 15:54 * E_mE Demands taht someone gives him there Macbook Pro! 15:54 < E_mE> ;) 15:54 < Flukey> E_mE: You can have mine seeing as i'm about to chuck it out of the window :P 15:55 < E_mE> if im under the window can i have it? 15:55 < Wombert> finders keepers! 15:57 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 15:58 < Flukey> absolutely 15:58 < Flukey> heh 15:58 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 16:01 < sikkle> E_mE; i just received my 17". 16:02 < E_mE> sikkle: throws toys out of pram! :: humpf :: 16:03 < E_mE> within 6months i shall have either and iMac or Macbook Pro! You watch ... you watch ;) 16:03 < sikkle> E_mE; sexxxy huge.. but realy it's a pain, 4k for a god damn laptop, crazy crazy stupid :) 16:04 < E_mE> :| 4k 16:04 < E_mE> thats truely insane 16:04 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 16:04 < sikkle> E_mE; hehe but usually one decent client feel the big apple and will cover this charge easy hehe 16:05 < sikkle> E_mE; look like a pro even if ur naked man. 16:05 < sikkle> 4k. 16:05 < sikkle> this should be the apple TM. 16:06 < E_mE> well, i think id prefer you in a 15" macbook ... i cant accept 17 inches! ho ho ho ho ;) 16:06 < digitarald> the 4k are a good reason to invest half the money in a fast "normal" notebook 16:07 < digitarald> but thats just me I think 16:07 < sikkle> E_mE; gimme one night with 17" you'll never go back :) 16:07 < sikkle> digitarald; yep, i have that already indeed. 16:07 -!- Gibbed [i=rick@pool-71-189-11-16.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 16:07 < sikkle> digitarald; but who care, i can watch tv on 21" too hehe 16:08 -!- Rick [i=rick@unaffiliated/rick] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 16:08 -!- Gibbed is now known as Rick 16:08 < sikkle> digitarald; it's same to anything you buy, car, phone, girlfriend :) 16:08 < sikkle> what matter VERY much is how that hurt E_mE :) 16:09 < digitarald> I have a smartphone, no iPhone ... also for half the money :D 16:09 < digitarald> so, you are right 16:09 < digitarald> but my girlfriend marries me ... for nothing ... not sure how to top that :D 16:10 * E_mE slaps sikkle... feel that mofo ;) 16:13 < nfq> digitarald: dude, you are missing something huge 16:13 < nfq> the iPhone is amazing! 16:13 < nfq> but of course I think that 16:15 < digitarald> I know some owners .. loosing their enthusiasm after 2 months 16:15 < sikkle> digitarald; marries me... for nothing.... and you talk about macbookpro price ? shhhhh :) 16:16 < sikkle> i think we can easyly make the link between, marries me.. AND half the money :P 16:16 < digitarald> some things are priceless ;) 16:17 < sikkle> need to lunch see ya :) 16:17 -!- eremit_ [n=martin@p5B2363E5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #agavi 16:17 -!- eremit [n=martin@p5B237967.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:18 < nfq> digitarald: you teasing? I can't believe that enthusiasm dies after 2months 16:18 < nfq> friends must be weird 16:18 < nfq> :D 16:18 < nfq> Wombert: ping 16:19 < Flukey> how do i find out a users id from the sesson? 16:20 < E_mE> Flukey: what use ID? 16:20 < E_mE> user* 16:22 < sikkle> digitarald; but i agree about the iphone though, i feel it's like a funny boy with tiny.... 16:22 < sikkle> digitarald; but i'm not enjoy much working or play too much with my cellphone hehe 16:23 < Flukey> done it :D 16:23 < Flukey> $user = $this->context->getUser(); 16:23 < Flukey> :) 16:35 < Flukey> caio folks 16:35 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has quit [] 16:35 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has joined #agavi 16:35 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has quit [Client Quit] 16:36 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has joined #agavi 16:36 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has quit [Client Quit] 16:46 -!- sikkle [n=sikk@bas4-montreal02-1096720986.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:48 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 16:48 < Whisller> evening 16:53 -!- IcyT is now known as icyt 17:13 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 17:29 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 17:40 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 17:44 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-26-77.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #agavi 17:51 < marklar|omni> ohai 17:57 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 17:59 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 18:22 < _cheerios> MSG4 out!? my source of console gaming addiction. :| 9.9/10 on IGN. damn them for saying it's good :( 18:23 -!- icyt is now known as IcyT 18:27 < ttj_> _cheerios: You mean MGS4? 18:27 < _cheerios> yes, indeed, Metal Gear Solid 18:27 < ttj_> I know the feeling. Had to buy a PS3 because of GTA 4. 18:29 < marklar|omni> zomg. 18:29 < marklar|omni> want. 18:29 < saracen> What platforms is MGS4 out on? 18:29 < _cheerios> 450e for PS3, 64e for the game x_X 18:30 < saracen> Also, am i correct in thinking MGS3 came out for the game cube? 18:30 < ttj_> _cheerios: Well, I got the console for 400e and a couple of games with that. And after I get tired of it, I can just sell it along and recover, oh, 75% of the tied capital? 18:31 < _cheerios> i was just looking at my msn list to see if someone wants to lend their ps3 for a while :p 18:36 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@142.Red-83-55-79.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["I'll come back ... digitarald.de"] 18:51 -!- splatch_ [n=splatch@code-house.org] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:53 -!- sikkle [i=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 18:54 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 18:54 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 18:55 * E_mE[Stilgar] ponders! 18:55 -!- Hamerr [n=stock@87.246.12.46] has joined #agavi 18:55 < Hamerr> huomenta 18:57 < ttj_> _cheerios: Damnit, you should've said that earlier. I'm on sick leave and out of town for ~5 weeks and I could've lent you the PS3 for that time. 18:59 < _cheerios> is that called pouring the salt in, after not jumping on the ps3 offer? :) 19:00 < ttj_> :P 19:09 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 19:24 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 19:26 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 19:26 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 19:37 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has quit [] 19:38 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 19:38 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 19:51 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 19:51 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 20:00 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:05 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@lbcomm-gx.abacom.com] has joined #agavi 20:07 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 20:07 -!- pookey [n=pookey@emo.two-pebbles.com] has joined #agavi 20:08 < pookey> E_mE: MOO 20:08 < pookey> E_mE: I hae aubergine and courgette to use up, help! ;) 20:09 < pookey> I'm thinking that's pretty mcuh asking for a pasta dish.... 20:14 < pookey> well, he's no good is he ! :P 20:16 < pookey> http://vegbox-recipes.co.uk/recipes/courgette-recipe-2.php ahh. perfect 20:19 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit ["bai"] 20:37 < _cheerios> why do the patches for php5 have to be different w/debian & ubuntu. gah. 20:57 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@lbcomm-gx.abacom.com] has left #agavi [] 21:06 < E_mE[Stilgar]> pookey: opps sorry 21:07 < pookey> it's too late now young man, i've cooked! 21:07 < E_mE[Stilgar]> sorry :) 21:08 < pookey> that vegbox-recipes.co.uk site is good... especially as we get a vegbox :) 21:08 < E_mE[Stilgar]> i was just looking up for half a pig 21:08 < E_mE[Stilgar]> hehe 21:09 < pookey> I gave away all my plants today E_mE[Stilgar] :( 21:09 -!- erisco [n=erisco@brisco.kent.net] has joined #agavi 21:09 < erisco> join ##php 21:09 < E_mE[Stilgar]> :( you finally moving? 21:09 < pookey> I put an post on freecycle, had someone come pick them all up :/ 21:09 < pookey> yep, 2.6 weeks 21:09 < E_mE[Stilgar]> found a new place yet? 21:09 < erisco> I meant that with a slash... this isn't propaganda 21:09 < pookey> maybe! 21:09 < pookey> E_mE[Stilgar]: justien is in ipswich looking today/yesterday, she's foind a really nice place 21:10 < E_mE[Stilgar]> garden? 21:10 * pookey finds link 21:10 < pookey> however... oen she is looking at tomorrow has a catflap! 21:11 < E_mE[Stilgar]> hmpf! if you find a property that allows pets i shall be very upset! 21:11 < E_mE[Stilgar]> hardly anywhere in Cornwall allows pets 21:11 < pookey> http://www.rightmove.co.uk/viewdetails-21599075.rsp?pa_n=2&tr_t=rent tat's the current favorate.. and it's furnished/unfernished.... and considering their table and sofa is far better then ours, I think I'll just sell ours and keep thiers :) 21:11 < pookey> E_mE[Stilgar]: we've found lots it seems! 21:12 < pookey> E_mE[Stilgar]: maybe people in suffolk are more cat accomidating :) 21:12 < pookey> accomodating? that looks wrong too 21:14 < E_mE[Stilgar]> that house looks wicked, im only paying £20 less a month for a ground floor flat 21:14 < E_mE[Stilgar]> pah! 21:14 -!- E_mE [n=jeramy@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:14 < E_mE[Stilgar]> doh! server at work has gone down AGAIN! 21:14 -!- E_mE [n=jeramy@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has joined #agavi 21:14 < E_mE[Stilgar]> spoke to soon :) 21:15 < pookey> I think the hosting market has changd a little in the last few months 21:15 < pookey> ermm.... renting I mean 21:15 < E_mE[Stilgar]> its got a nice garden too, though not much space for planting out 21:15 < E_mE[Stilgar]> what do you mean? 21:15 < pookey> I think I'm kinda sold on the idae of container planting now anyway... maybe - and.. I think there's plenty of allotments in ipswich... 21:16 < pookey> I mean, becuase house prices are dropping, some people are putting their houses out to rent rather htn to sell, lowering prices 21:16 < pookey> 21:16 < E_mE[Stilgar]> very good point 21:16 < E_mE[Stilgar]> plus Falmouth is not cheap place to live either 21:17 < pookey> student town and being a common retirement place I imagine? 21:17 < E_mE[Stilgar]> i think the retirement is falling and the students and young people are flooding cornwall 21:18 < E_mE[Stilgar]> not that i can talk hehe 21:18 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 21:18 < pookey> I might apply for an allotment.... 21:18 < E_mE[Stilgar]> you going to attempt hydroponic pot plants? 21:18 < pookey> I'm not sure if i'll actaully keep it up though... 21:18 < pookey> E_mE[Stilgar]: I'm undecided :) 21:18 < E_mE[Stilgar]> thats what ive found the problem with allotments, need to travel to them 21:19 < E_mE[Stilgar]> and to keep them up and happy is fair amount of effort 21:19 -!- saracen [n=saracen@cpc2-pete5-0-0-cust624.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:19 < E_mE[Stilgar]> pookey: you been to Eden recently? 21:19 < pookey> nope, never have 21:20 < E_mE[Stilgar]> they have a few examples of zero energy hydroponic systems 21:20 < E_mE[Stilgar]> based on gravity or black plastic to generate moisture 21:20 < pookey> zero energy? how do the pumps work? 21:20 < pookey> hmmm... thats interesting! 21:20 < pookey> oh ffs, ipswich.gov.uk is dead 21:20 < pookey> thats the first time I've ever wanted to go there too 21:21 < E_mE[Stilgar]> they showed an example of growing plants in a soiless medium such as a old cloth rags etc, was saying its perfect for disaster ridden areas 21:21 < E_mE[Stilgar]> because they can pretty much use any substance 21:21 < impl> it should be called ipswitch 21:22 < impl> :< 21:22 < pookey> impl: they did try to sell teh city as 'IP City', as it's postcode is 'IP' however.... the companies never really turned up 21:22 < pookey> HP build a large office, but then when they merged with Compaq, it went unused... 21:22 < impl> ah :( 21:22 < E_mE[Stilgar]> evening impl, i understand you will be in london in aug, i shall have the pleasure of meeting you 21:23 < pookey> the local council would subsidie tech companies too... so you're not the first person with the idea I'm afraid :) 21:23 < pookey> E_mE[Stilgar]: I migth be there too 21:23 < E_mE[Stilgar]> ahh nice :D morrreeee 21:23 < pookey> E_mE[Stilgar]: you any idea how much tey cost a month? 21:23 < impl> E_mE[Stilgar]: so I heard :D 21:24 < pookey> I'm going to come wearing a Symfony t-shirt! :) 21:24 < pookey> actaully, I don't own one, and have no intention of buying one, so I won't :) 21:24 < E_mE[Stilgar]> pookey: what cost? 21:24 < pookey> allotments 21:24 < E_mE[Stilgar]> it varies i think 21:24 < E_mE[Stilgar]> but if you get 6 people together you can request the local council to get you some land 21:24 < E_mE[Stilgar]> and can be as little as £10/mth 21:25 < E_mE[Stilgar]> i will get a t-shirt with optimus prime on the front with his fuck off big gun censored 21:25 < pookey> I could get a 'I was heckled by a crazy guy' t-shirt printed..... 21:26 < E_mE[Stilgar]> if you heard about the guy who was refused passed the security because there was a Tou gun drawn on his shirt 21:26 < pookey> infact, that's seriously tempting ;) 21:26 < E_mE[Stilgar]> hhahahah 21:27 < pookey> no, i didn't hear about that 21:27 < E_mE[Stilgar]> ill link you, one sec 21:27 < E_mE[Stilgar]> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/03/transformers_bust/ 21:29 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-049-185.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 21:30 < E_mE[Stilgar]> i mean the article was raised by the sun newspaper, so who knows what the truth is 21:30 < E_mE[Stilgar]> impl: when are you going to ze nazi land? 21:31 < pookey> E_mE[Stilgar]: I don't get it.....I can't even begin to understand how you could stop someone for that t-shirt 21:31 < E_mE[Stilgar]> opps pookey i linked you to a lego man scetch hehe: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/02/transformers_t_shirt/ 21:31 < pookey> E_mE[Stilgar]: I figured it out :) 21:31 < E_mE[Stilgar]> me neither 21:31 < impl> E_mE[Stilgar]: about two weeks from now 21:31 < pookey> well, dinner was edible, but... not wonderfully fantastic 21:31 < pookey> thank god I put extra cheese on top! :) 21:31 < impl> E_mE[Stilgar]: what's the name of the toy that they modeled that image out of, do you know? 21:31 < pookey> optimus prime 21:32 < impl> no, like the people 21:32 < pookey> transformers? 21:32 < impl> no, lol, hold on 21:32 < impl> I used to have some that looked like it 21:32 < Wombert> lawl 21:32 < Wombert> btw 21:32 < Wombert> speaking of transformers 21:32 < Wombert> a dude 21:32 < Wombert> in a megatron tshirt 21:32 < Wombert> wasnt allowed to board a plane the other day at heathrow airport 21:32 < Wombert> too offensive 21:32 < Wombert> stupid brits 21:33 < pookey> Wombert: scroll up about 5 more lines then you did :P 21:33 < Wombert> YOU HEAR ME pookey 21:33 < impl> Wombert: that's just what we're talking about hehe 21:33 < Wombert> oh 21:33 < Wombert> lawl 21:33 < impl> and 21:33 < Wombert> ah 21:33 < impl> this is the toy: http://store.playmobilusa.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-US-Site 21:33 < Wombert> hey I joined after you talked bout it 21:33 < Wombert> zomg sorry 21:33 < Wombert> :> 21:33 < pookey> Wombert: GOOD! violent t-shirts are the beginning of a slppery slope! 21:33 < pookey> first t-shrits, then bombs on the underground 21:34 * Wombert chuckles 21:34 < Wombert> man pookey, sometimes its hard to judge whether you're serious or not :> 21:34 < pookey> Wombert: it's always best to assume I'm not :) 21:34 < Wombert> didn't you like these CCTV cams 21:35 < E_mE[Stilgar]> someone commented on the register that htey went through security at heathrow, and the guards would allow him to take a little laptop bag padlock with him because, as quote "It could be used to tie someone up".... the stupid thing was that you could buy another padlock in the dixon past the security gate! hahaha 21:35 < E_mE[Stilgar]> idiots 21:35 < Wombert> filming the bastard that stole your bike 21:35 < pookey> Wombert: well yes, that is true :) then they should haev sent me the footage so I could go reap vengence 21:36 < pookey> if noly ther was a camera... there'd be a kid in a coma... rather then on the streets planning bomb attacks against our wonderful country 21:36 < pookey> i'd have done my part! 21:36 < pookey> E_mE[Stilgar]: the bombs are getting closer to cornwall youknow... exeter was last! 21:37 < Wombert> haha 21:38 < impl> can you grow corn along a wall? 21:38 < impl> I thought it needs full sun 21:39 < pookey> make the wall from mirrors 21:39 < impl> oh, brilliant! :< 21:39 < pookey> it's lucky one of us is a klevor man 21:39 < impl> does Cornwall feature one of these? 21:39 < pookey> yes, it's called The Fictional Wall of Cornwall 21:40 < impl> :( 21:40 < pookey> built by the ompaloompa in 1924 AC/DC 21:40 < Wombert> ahaha 21:40 < Wombert> :> 21:40 < Wombert> [23:38] impl: can you grow corn along a wall? 21:40 < Wombert> [23:38] impl: I thought it needs full sun 21:40 < Wombert> you know 21:41 < Wombert> since you are american 21:41 < Wombert> I gotta say 21:41 < Wombert> kudos for knowing that corn doesn't come from a factory 21:41 < Wombert> harhar 21:41 < pookey> haahaa: D 21:41 < impl> hey! 21:41 < Wombert> YOU REALLY THINK THATS WHY ITS CALLED "CORNWALL" DO YOU? :>>> 21:41 * Wombert hugs impl 21:41 < impl> I'm going to compile a list of silly place names in Britain and bring it with me 21:41 < impl> then we'll see who's klevor 21:42 < pookey> Fingering Hoe is a great one 21:42 < pookey> sorry, there's no space, it's jsut fingeringhoe ... I really wish I was joking 21:42 < impl> haha 21:42 < impl> excellent. 21:43 < pookey> impl: Brown Willy... in Cornwall.. 21:44 < impl> Is that the name of a neighborhood? 21:47 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:51 < pookey> no, it's a hill or something 21:51 < impl> haha.. a hill. 21:51 < impl> :D 21:52 < pookey> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Willy 21:52 < impl> quite the impressive stub you've got there! 21:52 < pookey> the highest point in cornwall 21:52 < pookey> it's the most exciting thing in cornwall too ;) 21:52 * pookey sniggers 21:52 < impl> lool 21:52 < Wombert> lawl 21:52 < Wombert> :>>>> 21:53 < Wombert> "the cornish live there. friendly, but backwards" 21:55 < impl> wtf 21:55 < impl> ===> ImageMagick-nox11-6.4.1.3_1 SVG support requires X11 libraries, please unset WITHOUT_X11. 21:55 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 21:56 < Wombert> pkefc 21:56 < Wombert> ! 21:56 < Wombert> THERE WAS AN ATOM ACCIDENT IN SLOVENIA 21:56 < Wombert> OMG 21:56 < Wombert> AN ATOM LEAKED 21:56 < Wombert> WE ARE DOOOOOMED 21:57 < impl> wat 22:02 < E_mE[Stilgar]> pookey: most exciting point in cornwall is me ;D 22:02 < E_mE[Stilgar]> hoho 22:05 < E_mE[Stilgar]> Wombert: impl: pookey you may take the piss out of cornwall but this is where i live ;) http://www.moorgoodshelicopters.co.uk/images/photos/falmouthPendennisPoint.jpg 22:05 < E_mE[Stilgar]> =P 22:05 < E_mE[Stilgar]> and i live pretty much at the thinnest point of the town bit you can see 22:06 < pookey> ahhh.. but do you have a cat?! :P 22:07 < E_mE[Stilgar]> no, but ill tease the local ones 22:07 < pookey> I et told off for stopping at too many kitties :| 22:07 < E_mE[Stilgar]> i went to stroke one and it meow Really loudly... walked off in freight 22:07 < impl> sounds like a heavy cat 22:07 < pookey> heehee 22:08 < impl> BADUM TSH 22:08 < E_mE[Stilgar]> some more pictures of cornwall: http://www.moorgoodshelicopters.co.uk/photography.aspx 22:08 < E_mE[Stilgar]> impl: be jealous, i want to feel better then you... Be jealous damn it! ;) 22:10 < E_mE[Stilgar]> anyway, nite nite guys 22:10 < pookey> good plan 22:10 < pookey> nigth :) 22:17 -!- E_mE [n=jeramy@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:17 -!- E_mE [n=jeramy@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has joined #agavi 22:22 < impl> E_mE[Stilgar]: hehe :D 22:33 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit ["good night"] 22:51 -!- erisco [n=erisco@brisco.kent.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:13 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-26-77.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [] 23:31 -!- IcyT is now known as icyt 23:37 < Wombert> nn 23:37 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-049-185.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] --- Day changed Thu Jun 05 2008 00:12 -!- saracen [n=saracen@cpc2-pete5-0-0-cust624.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #agavi 00:12 -!- saracen [n=saracen@cpc2-pete5-0-0-cust624.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:35 -!- saracen [n=saracen@cpc2-pete5-0-0-cust624.pete.cable.ntl.com] has joined #agavi 00:41 -!- MugeSo [n=Tanaka_K@220x218x27x242.ap220.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #agavi 00:41 < MugeSo> huomenta! 01:10 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 01:21 -!- MugeSo_ [n=Tanaka_K@220x218x27x242.ap220.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #agavi 01:39 -!- MugeSo [n=Tanaka_K@220x218x27x242.ap220.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:09 -!- MugeSo__ [n=Tanaka_K@220x218x27x242.ap220.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #agavi 02:09 -!- MugeSo__ is now known as MugeSo 02:10 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: ttj_ 02:10 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: MrJeep, impl, icyt, Zeelot3k 02:10 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ttj_ 02:11 -!- Netsplit over, joins: MrJeep, impl, icyt, Zeelot3k 02:28 -!- MugeSo_ [n=Tanaka_K@220x218x27x242.ap220.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:42 -!- saracen [n=saracen@cpc2-pete5-0-0-cust624.pete.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 04:51 < marklar|omni> ohai 05:01 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 05:11 -!- eremit_ [n=martin@p5B2363E5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 05:47 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 05:47 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:07 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@aasz8.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 06:07 < Whisller> morning 06:08 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@aasz8.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Client Quit] 06:08 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@aasz8.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 06:08 < Whisller> . 06:32 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.139.214.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #agavi 06:40 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 06:40 < _cheerios> huomenta 06:40 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-049-185.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 07:01 < MikeSeth> huomenta 07:12 < E_mE> huomenta! 07:32 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 07:39 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 07:55 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has joined #agavi 07:56 < Flukey> morning all 08:11 < E_mE> this article might be interesting for you sweds in the room: http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/04/sweden_wiretap_bill/ 08:11 < E_mE> *channel 08:12 < Flukey> lol why would sweden do that? 08:12 < Flukey> There's not exactly any terrorist threat to Sweden. 08:12 < Flukey> I can understand why the UK would do it 08:14 < Flukey> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1533054/Britain-the-most-spied-on-nation-in-the-world.html interesting 08:14 < Flukey> anyhows, work time 08:14 < Flukey> :) 08:29 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 08:34 < E_mE> Flukey: intresting article :) 08:36 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.139.214.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit ["... is gone ... www.digitarald.de ... but he is coming back!"] 08:38 < Flukey> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/24/switch_switchnap_rob_roy/ 08:38 < Flukey> now that is very interesting 08:38 < Flukey> good read if you've got a bit of time 08:48 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 08:51 < Flukey> folks, is it possible to save a submitted form to pdf? 08:51 < Flukey> i'm sure it is, but i haven't done it before 08:51 < Flukey> so i guess my question is 08:51 < Flukey> how would i do this? 08:51 < Flukey> heh 08:52 < MikeSeth> Flukey: PDF rendering is non-trivial 08:53 < MikeSeth> Flukey: it's basically a markup language of its own 08:53 < MikeSeth> Flukey: you can hook up a PDF renderer lib to Agavi and even render it as a native output type 08:53 < MikeSeth> I personally wouldn't unless absolutely neccessary 08:54 < Flukey> bugger. the reason why i ask is because our client wants a user to submit a questionnaire on our site and the submitted form gets emaled with the form as a pdf attachment 08:54 < MikeSeth> Flukey: oh you absolutely can 08:54 < MikeSeth> Flukey: you will just have to design the form in PDF language 08:55 < MikeSeth> look at examples in any PDF generation library, maybe what you want is simple enought to be done in 10 minutes 08:55 < Flukey> do you have a person favourite pdf library? 08:55 < Flukey> *personal 08:56 < MikeSeth> yes. In Ruby ;> 08:56 < Flukey> what about php? 08:56 < Flukey> :p 08:57 < MikeSeth> Never had the patience to figure out the least crap library/extension to do that 09:01 < MugeSo> I generate PDF with haru :) 09:02 < E_mE> what is it with idiots wanting to create website front pages that are like 1MB 09:02 < E_mE> so many of fucks now... 09:02 * E_mE slaps webdesigners! 09:05 < MikeSeth> I say we bring back lynches 09:05 < fholmstrom> lynchmobs = win 09:06 < MikeSeth> if they ever legalize lynches again, I'm so investing in a torch & pitchfork store 09:14 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 09:14 < Flukey> haha :P no money in IT any more, it's all in old-skool justice. 09:14 < Flukey> heh 09:14 < Flukey> anyhows, who's good at regex? 09:27 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 09:28 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@aasz8.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:29 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@aasz8.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 09:30 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 09:32 < Flukey> question_24_option_49 = how would i split that with regex so i just get 24 and 49 out of it? :) 09:36 < v-dogg> grep (\d+) 09:36 < Wombert> nice. rocketboom blog is made with tumblr 09:36 < Wombert> and 09:37 < Wombert> the pouring rain stopped 09:37 < Wombert> so I can go to the office! 09:37 < Wombert> \o/ 09:37 < v-dogg> hey Wombs, did you look up the dates for this years IPC yet? 09:37 < Wombert> nah 09:38 < Wombert> doubt they are decided yet 09:38 < v-dogg> ah 09:38 < Wombert> from what I understood last year, they're looking for a new venue 09:38 < v-dogg> yup 09:38 < MikeSeth> RAIN!!! 09:39 < Flukey> v-dogg: that doesn't work :( 09:42 < v-dogg> then you use it wrong ;) 09:43 < Flukey> $split = preg_split('(\d)', 'question_23_option_5'); 09:43 < Flukey> (btw, the second parameter will be a variable) 09:43 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@192.Red-83-55-61.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 09:43 < Flukey> Array ( [0] => question_ [1] => [2] => _option_ [3] => ) 09:44 < v-dogg> nono, not split, grep 09:44 < E_mE> in agavi, does there need to be seprate routing rules for SSL URLs? 09:46 < v-dogg> Flukey: umm... ok. preg_grep doesn't work like I assumed 09:46 < v-dogg> hang on a sec 09:46 < Flukey> thanks :) 09:48 -!- Whisller_ [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 09:50 < v-dogg> Flukey: preg_match('/\d+/'... or preg_split('/\D+/'... 09:50 < Flukey> yay! :D 09:50 < Flukey> thanks ever so much v-dogg 09:50 < Flukey> i haven't done much regex 09:51 < Flukey> how can i tell it to only match two times? 09:52 < v-dogg> preg_match matches only _one_ time :) 09:52 < v-dogg> so you need preg_match_all 09:55 < Flukey> Array 09:55 < Flukey> ( 09:55 < Flukey> [0] => 09:55 < Flukey> [1] => 23 09:55 < Flukey> [2] => 5 09:55 < Flukey> ) 09:55 < Flukey> hmmm why is [0] blank? :S 09:55 -!- Whisller_ [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 09:56 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@aasz8.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Connection timed out] 09:58 < Flukey> oh i see 09:59 -!- MugeSo [n=Tanaka_K@220x218x27x242.ap220.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]"] 10:06 < Wombert> no E_mE 10:06 < Wombert> unless you want certain urls to work over ssl only 10:07 < Wombert> 10:07 < Wombert> 10:07 < Wombert> oh man 10:07 < Wombert> so win 10:07 < Wombert> try that with symfony :> 10:08 < E_mE> thank you wombert 10:08 < E_mE> nudges pookey ... ah ah! try that in symfony ;) 10:08 < digitarald> hey, be nice to pookey! 10:08 < Wombert> "it's easy, you only have to patch these 27 files" 10:09 < E_mE> im always nice to pookey ;) 10:09 < digitarald> mh, that rule always routes to login. what if he is already logged in? 10:09 < Wombert> !? 10:10 < Wombert> 10:10 < Wombert> 10:10 < digitarald> ah, no 10:10 < Wombert> this? 10:10 < digitarald> sorry 10:11 < digitarald> was a bit slow on the uptake 10:11 < digitarald> ... having a blonde moment 10:11 < Wombert> 10:11 < pookey> you can do it in symfony, you'd just need to extend the routing class 10:11 < Wombert> 10:11 < Wombert> 10:11 < Wombert> if you want :p 10:11 < Wombert> andthe config handler, pookey 10:11 < Wombert> and foo 10:11 < Wombert> and bar :> 10:12 < digitarald> it works out-of-the-box with changes in the core classes 10:12 < pookey> so.. symfony has stuff out the box that agavi doesn't :P 10:13 < pookey> I don't imagine it would be much work to get agavi's routing workign under symfony if one was inclind to do so :) 10:13 < Wombert> I'm not giving up on you, pookey 10:13 < Wombert> you shall see the light eventually 10:14 < pookey> maybe :) 10:14 < MikeSeth> Wombert: fuck the light, show him the money 10:14 < MikeSeth> ;> 10:16 < pookey> I dont' actually do much web work at the moment anyway 10:19 < Flukey> lol php channel is amusing. 10:20 < pookey> ug, that channel makes me want to die 10:20 < MikeSeth> pookey: that channel makes me want to kill 10:21 < v-dogg> well, there you have it - supply and demand 10:21 < v-dogg> go for it! 10:21 * MikeSeth looks at pookey 10:22 < v-dogg> oh, unless killing is illegal at your current location 10:22 < MikeSeth> shit 10:22 < MikeSeth> did you have to remind me 10:33 < Flukey> chaps, i wish to loop $rd posted variables, how can i do thaT? 10:33 < Flukey> :) 10:35 < Wombert> foreach($rd->getParameters() as $key => $value) { } ? 10:35 * Wombert slaps Flukey around with the API docs 10:36 < Flukey> heh 10:36 < Flukey> thank you 10:36 < Flukey> my irc guru 10:36 < Flukey> :D 10:36 < Wombert> office tiem 10:36 < Wombert> -> 10:36 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-049-185.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 10:37 * digitarald has to give support for a symfony app ... and hates the "Oops! An Error Occurred" 10:47 < digitarald> the client ask about that oops ... :/ 10:47 < MikeSeth> oh nice 10:47 < MikeSeth> mozilla forgot to release the changelog for firefox 3rc2 10:47 < MikeSeth> gj opers 10:47 < MikeSeth> fail. 10:55 -!- sikkle [i=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 10:59 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 11:11 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:37 -!- trophaeum [n=trophaeu@59.167.212.13] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:40 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 11:44 -!- sikkle [n=sikk@bas4-montreal02-1096703933.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #agavi 11:57 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@192.Red-83-55-61.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:06 -!- trophaeum [n=trophaeu@59.167.212.13] has joined #agavi 12:08 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 12:11 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 12:18 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:21 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 12:44 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 12:44 < Macen> Wombert: first customer just signed that contract o/ 12:44 < Macen> also 12:45 < Macen> agavi was on the telle :D or at least the plants name was in a question on the weakest link :p 12:46 < Macen> it was "what is the name of the plant that is famously mistaken with the agavi plant that dies once a year" or something 12:46 < Macen> and the answer was century plant (duhh ???!!) lol 12:47 < Macen> once a century * 12:49 < v-dogg> (it's agave plant) 12:51 < Macen> rofl 12:51 < Macen> they don't write the questions on screen with weakest link :) 13:05 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@lbcomm-gx.abacom.com] has joined #agavi 13:05 < Wombert> should I add a footnote to agavi.org 13:05 < Wombert> "Agavi is not the plant that dies once a year 13:05 < Wombert> "really" 13:05 < Wombert> "it's not even a plant, actually" 13:05 < Wombert> "okay?" 13:05 < Wombert> "FRAME-WORK" 13:05 < Wombert> :> 13:07 < MrJeep> lolz 13:24 < MrJeep> what's up Wombert ? 13:34 < MikeSeth> Wombert: sire, raep tonight? 13:34 < MikeSeth> Wombert: tf2 cheated me out of my crit gun :< 13:34 < Wombert> no MikeSeth 13:34 < Wombert> man haven't had a chance to play for days and weeks 13:34 < Wombert> bugger 13:34 < Wombert> :< 13:35 < MikeSeth> you busy with business? 13:36 < Wombert> ya 14:03 * Macen humps Wombert 14:03 < Macen> you most certainly should :D 14:04 < Macen> man, i've had such a day 14:04 < Macen> just woot-ness throughout 14:13 -!- Hamerr [n=stock@87.246.12.46] has quit ["My damn controlling terminal disappeared!"] 14:21 < Flukey> i like cheese 14:39 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has quit ["jamaaaaaaaaaan"] 14:45 < Flukey> chaps, i have 50 form elements on a page for a questionnaire, what would be quickest way to say to agavi, i want everyone of these fields to have a value? they all have the same naming convention, i.e. option_2, option_3, option_4 etc. 14:49 < MikeSeth> Flukey: FPF :> 14:49 < Flukey> the FPF is working as it should....but i don't know how to set it so all fields are required 14:50 < MikeSeth> Flukey: just feed the FPF an array of values? 14:51 < Flukey> oh ok 14:51 < Flukey> what about the validation xml? 14:53 < MikeSeth> set up custom validation in the action, it has callback methods for that 14:53 < Flukey> rightio. thanks :) 14:56 < Macen> eww 14:59 -!- eremit [n=martin@p5B236790.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #agavi 15:00 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 15:03 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 15:09 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit ["bai"] 15:16 < _cheerios> heh @ "driver hits kid, flips finger, escapes" 15:16 < MikeSeth> winner 15:21 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #agavi [] 15:21 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 15:42 < _cheerios> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2078695/World%27s-largest-fake-breasts---Maxi-Mounds.html 15:45 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 15:49 < Flukey> Fail. 15:49 < Flukey> 20pounds each 15:49 < Flukey> jessssssssssus 15:49 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 15:49 < Flukey> 3stone boobs 16:02 < _cheerios> eh. i got google analytics flash charts burned to my screen. browser crashed, flash stayed -- on top of every app. 16:05 < Flukey> crt? 16:06 < _cheerios> had to kill the process that's all. 16:14 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [":: www.scopealley.com ::"] 16:21 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 16:23 -!- icyt is now known as IcyT 16:26 < Macen> plasmas get actual screen burn 16:26 < Macen> as you probably know 16:26 < Macen> but i only found out last week 16:26 < Macen> like, wtf :> 16:27 < Macen> accidentally leave screen on when you go on holiday 16:27 < Macen> one fucked screen 16:27 < Macen> heh 16:27 < Macen> anyway, i'm offski 16:27 < Macen> bai all 16:27 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 16:31 -!- fholmstrom [n=fredrik@host136.visattranr1.se] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:39 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 16:41 < E_mE> bye 16:41 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 16:57 < Flukey> cya folks 16:57 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has quit [] 17:18 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 17:37 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-26-77.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #agavi 17:41 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [] 17:41 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 17:41 < Whisller> . 18:38 -!- LBO_ [n=chatzill@dlb55.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 18:38 < LBO_> huomenta guys!!! 18:38 < LBO_> some time ago i asked u about using models in view 18:39 < LBO_> how do U deal with errors (db error/no web service)? 18:39 < LBO_> then 18:41 < LBO_> and read that, take a closer look at (about symfony) "And even now, I’m reminded that these changes (like using YAML instead of XML for schemas for instance) were mistakes." 18:41 < LBO_> http://redotheweb.com/2008/05/16/no-one-is-irreplaceable/ 18:41 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-215-207.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 18:44 < LBO_> Hi Wombert how is XML improvement doing? 18:44 < Wombert> hi LBO_ 18:44 < Wombert> it's cleanup work to be done mostly 18:45 < _cheerios> LBO: siding with XML gets noone friends :) 18:47 < LBO_> _cherios: ur absolutly right 18:48 < LBO_> Wombert: where can i find (in SVN) those changes? 18:48 < Wombert> as last time 18:48 < Wombert> http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/david-xml_only_config_system 18:49 < LBO_> last time? sorry, I had to missed that 18:52 < _cheerios> http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/OORP/ 18:52 < _cheerios> "The documentation is missing or obsolete, and the original developers have departed. Your team has limited understanding of the system, and unit tests are missing for many, if not all, of the components. When you fix a bug in one place, another bug pops up somewhere else in the system. Long rebuild times make any change difficult. All of these are signs of software that is close to the breaking point." 18:52 < _cheerios> it's like made for fholstrom 18:53 < Wombert> 21:35 < LBO> If U'll implemet that feature 18:53 < Wombert> 21:35 < LBO> ill be glad to test that 18:53 < Wombert> 21:36 < LBO> and provide "XML Catalog" configuration files for every eclise user 18:53 < Wombert> 21:36 < LBO> eclipse user 18:53 < Wombert> 21:36 < Wombert> cool 18:53 < Wombert> 21:46 < LBO> Wombert: AgaviConfigParser::parse($config, $validationFile, $alternativeNamespace) 18:53 < Wombert> 21:46 < Wombert> eh what? 18:53 < Wombert> 21:47 < LBO> if ull add $alternativeNamespace to the parse method 18:53 < Wombert> 21:47 < Wombert> nono 18:53 < Wombert> 21:47 < LBO> why? 18:53 < Wombert> 21:47 < Wombert> http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/david-xml_only_config_system 18:53 < Wombert> may 28 :p 18:53 < LBO_> Oh come ooooooon :P 18:54 < Wombert> <: 18:54 < _cheerios> less vodka than me, clearleh. i only remember today. 18:59 < MikeSeth> woot win book! 18:59 -!- trophaeum [n=trophaeu@59.167.212.13] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:04 -!- trophaeum [n=trophaeu@59.167.212.13] has joined #agavi 19:24 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:11 < MrJeep> just wondering ... can a layer be stored in a module template directory 20:11 < MrJeep> I mean the template file for a layer 20:11 < E_mE[Stilgar]> you mean like a skeleton MrJeep? 20:11 < E_mE[Stilgar]> but for the module 20:12 < MrJeep> yeah 20:12 < E_mE[Stilgar]> i dont see why not, just need to put the path to it i guess 20:12 < MrJeep> or something like a module specific decorator 20:13 < E_mE[Stilgar]> its a good question tohugh, i wonder if layer's can accept paths 20:13 < MrJeep> the thing is.. I don't see where 20:13 < MrJeep> public function createLayer($class, $name, $renderer = null) 20:13 < Wombert> eh what 20:14 < Wombert> what are you guys talking about 20:14 < MrJeep> I'd like to create a layer in a view using create layer (or appendLayer ...) 20:14 < Wombert> okay 20:14 < Wombert> but why not define it in a layout? 20:14 < MrJeep> but I'd also like to store this layer inside the module template directory 20:15 < E_mE[Stilgar]> can output_type.xml accept paths to a skeleton template? 20:15 * Wombert shakes head 20:15 < Wombert> guys 20:15 < MrJeep> this could also be done 20:15 < Wombert> stop stop stop 20:15 < Wombert> what happens when you render a normal empty layer 20:15 < Wombert> 20:15 < Wombert> liek it is the case with your content template 20:17 < E_mE[Stilgar]> ...modules root template folder... 20:17 < Wombert> nonono 20:17 < Wombert> no no no 20:17 < Wombert> tell me what happens when you have an empty layer 20:17 < Wombert> what does it render 20:17 < MrJeep> the "default output" is thrown at it 20:18 < E_mE[Stilgar]> pure content? mp decpratpr 20:18 < E_mE[Stilgar]> no decortator 20:18 < Wombert> nonono 20:18 < Wombert> too complicated 20:18 < Wombert> assume that is your content layer 20:18 < Wombert> and you hve a million decorator layers 20:18 < Wombert> does not matter 20:18 < Wombert> but what does it do for this layer 20:18 < Wombert> which template does it pick 20:18 < MrJeep> the view's template 20:19 < Wombert> well 20:19 < MrJeep> I'm not sure I understand where you're going with this Wombert to be honest 20:19 < Wombert> what is that, exactly? 20:20 < MrJeep> php code, the content layer, not sure what answer you are looknig for 20:20 < MrJeep> could be a million thing 20:20 < Wombert> no 20:20 < Wombert> what template does it render 20:20 < Wombert> the name of it 20:20 < Wombert> the location 20:20 < Wombert> ... 20:20 < MrJeep> the action's name, module directory 20:21 < Wombert> exactly 20:21 < Wombert> well not quite 20:21 < Wombert> the view's name 20:21 < Wombert> is the template name 20:21 < Wombert> and the module directory is the directory where its looking for that 20:21 < MrJeep> yeah you're right 20:21 < Wombert> but your does not have that info, right? 20:21 < MrJeep> nop it does not 20:22 < MrJeep> so this is the first place it's looking for ? 20:22 < Wombert> not quite 20:22 < Wombert> its just the defaults it assumes 20:22 < Wombert> for "directory" and "template" 20:22 < Wombert> so all you need is 20:22 < Wombert> 20:22 < Wombert> MyDecorator 20:22 < Wombert> 20:22 < Wombert> done 20:22 < Wombert> it looks for that in the module's dir 20:23 < Wombert> look at the createLayer() source code, too 20:23 < MrJeep> and each and every view (event not in the same module) which use this layout will automatically look for this layer ... ? 20:23 < Wombert> if it is defined in your layout, yes 20:23 < Wombert> I mean 20:23 < Wombert> what do you want 20:24 < MrJeep> but each module counld have a sightly different MyDecorator 20:24 < Wombert> you want a module specific wrapper template, right? 20:24 < MrJeep> exacly 20:24 < MrJeep> could not find better words 20:24 < Wombert> http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/0.11/samples/app/config/output_types.xml#L23 20:24 < Wombert> see that? 20:24 -!- LBO__ [n=chatzill@dlb55.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 20:25 < MrJeep> yeah of course 20:25 < Wombert> what happens if you remove the "directory" parameter 20:25 < MrJeep> I'll have ot guess it looks for the Master template in the module directory 20:25 < Wombert> exactly! 20:26 < MrJeep> but what I'm looking for is more like a 3 layer layout 20:26 < MrJeep> so i guess I'll only have to add another layer between the content and decorator 20:26 < MrJeep> could call it navigation 20:26 < MrJeep> does it throws an exception if the file does not exists ? 20:29 < Wombert> yes 20:29 < MrJeep> ok 20:29 < MrJeep> well, thanks wombert for explaining 20:29 < Wombert> you could define a different list of path targets 20:30 < Wombert> so it falls back to an empty "" template if it cannot find a per-module decorator 20:30 < MrJeep> makes sense :) 20:30 < MrJeep> anyway, I have to go home 20:30 < MrJeep> later 20:31 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@lbcomm-gx.abacom.com] has quit [] 20:39 < LBO__> If I have a User model, what is the best aproach of creating new user? 20:40 < LBO__> passing an array of values (with "slted" paswword and salt itself) to the create method 20:40 < LBO__> or hashing password and generating salt in model? 20:40 < LBO__> for me it is controller part, or maybe Im wrong? 20:43 -!- LBO_ [n=chatzill@dlb55.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:44 -!- LBO__ [n=chatzill@dlb55.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]"] 20:44 -!- LBO_ [n=chatzill@dlb55.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 20:45 < Wombert> pass it a password, LBO_ 20:45 < Wombert> the calling code should not be concerned with the way the password is salted etc 20:49 < LBO_> Thanks W. I still have a problem with differentiating what should model and what should controller do 20:53 < LBO_> hmmm, controllers (i mean action by that :D) are becoming extremly slim and easy to read if I move a huge part of code - i developed so far - to models 20:57 < _cheerios> <3 mogilefs 21:09 < E_mE[Stilgar]> oh fucking hell! What is it with coders and thinking that 500K is a good start size for a website GRR 21:09 < E_mE[Stilgar]> ive put a target for the front page of the site to not exceed 300K 21:10 < E_mE[Stilgar]> and now people are going behind my back and saying "nah nah 500k is a good target" 21:10 < E_mE[Stilgar]> Bull fecking shit! 21:10 < trophaeum> e_me 150k uncompressed uncached is my normal target 21:11 < E_mE[Stilgar]> well, theres gonna be fair few graphics etc so i though 300k was good 21:11 < E_mE[Stilgar]> not too large and should be reasonable on slower machines 21:12 < E_mE[Stilgar]> trophaeum: well i wish you would tell the people im doing this site for that, so they know im being genirous :) 21:12 < E_mE[Stilgar]> orginally i said 200k, but i increased it 21:12 < trophaeum> haha, learn the ways of getn away with doing things as css instead of images :) 21:13 < trophaeum> if ur usin prototype+scriptaculous though your screwed from step 1 21:14 < E_mE[Stilgar]> trophaeum: thats what i tried to say, use CSS ... i argued that instead of have 5 seprate buttons with graphics for text on each 21:14 < E_mE[Stilgar]> just have one button with no text 21:15 < E_mE[Stilgar]> and use it as a background image and put HTML text ontop using CSS for a rollover 21:15 < trophaeum> well u can do the hover state as well in the single image with css 21:15 < E_mE[Stilgar]> and to make it more swanky use CSS to perform fades etc 21:15 < E_mE[Stilgar]> yeah 21:15 < E_mE[Stilgar]> did not compute with him 21:17 < E_mE[Stilgar]> he even came with the argument "i spoke to a coder who gets £65/hr and he said 500k is a good target" 21:17 * E_mE[Stilgar] cries! 21:19 < E_mE[Stilgar]> 21:19 < _cheerios> 500k euroes would've been interesting. but size. bleh :| 21:22 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:22 < E_mE[Stilgar]> hehe 21:23 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 21:28 < _cheerios> ppl have 10-100Mbit/s internets these days.. a few k's here and there... is nothing 21:29 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit ["sleep"] 21:46 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 21:49 < LBO_> Guys, how do You create multiform? 21:49 < LBO_> One Action multiple views? 21:49 < MrJeep> multi page form ? 21:49 < LBO_> Multiple actions? 21:49 < LBO_> yes 21:50 < MrJeep> I did using multiple action and session variables 21:51 < MrJeep> not sure if it's the best thing 21:51 < LBO_> it have sense if u dont want validate hiden inputs :) 21:52 < LBO_> validate more than once of course 21:52 < MrJeep> well, since I store the form data in sessions, I don't have to validate more than once 21:52 < LBO_> this is my point.. 21:53 < LBO_> ...and yours :P 21:53 < MrJeep> something like : $user->setAttribute('form', $formdata, 'special.namespace'); 21:53 < MrJeep> oh sorry. I'm feeling very tired today and my focus has been affected hehe 21:54 < LBO_> no worries MrJeep 21:54 < LBO_> thanks for the answer 21:56 < E_mE[Stilgar]> you can use the same action, and use method="funcName" in your routing 21:57 < LBO_> E_mE: something like */create/part-1, */create/part-2 etc? 21:57 < LBO_> oooooooo, , understand 21:58 < LBO_> diferent execute*'s 22:02 < LBO_> but isn't that conflict with 4 request types? 22:03 < E_mE[Stilgar]> ?? 4 request types? 22:03 < E_mE[Stilgar]> sorry LBO_ im not sure what your getting at 22:03 < LBO_> GET POST PUT and something else... dont remember 22:05 < LBO_> as far as i know execute* methods are mapped to those request. 22:16 -!- sikkle [n=sikk@bas4-montreal02-1096703933.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [] 22:16 -!- sikkle [i=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 22:16 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit ["Good night"] 22:29 < Wombert> and DELETE 22:29 < Wombert> LBO_: method="writeStep1" 22:29 < Wombert> etc 22:29 < Wombert> executeWriteStep1() then 22:29 < Wombert> there will be native support for this in 1.1 or so 22:30 < Wombert> if it can be done elegantly 22:34 < LBO_> hehe, and there are even docs on that :) 22:35 < LBO_> I recall that I read something about that... donno why forgot :/ 22:35 < LBO_> very nice feature 23:17 -!- LBO__ [n=chatzill@dke114.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 23:23 -!- IcyT is now known as icyt 23:30 -!- LBO___ [n=chatzill@dkw90.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 23:34 < impl> :O 23:34 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-26-77.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [] 23:35 -!- LBO_ [n=chatzill@dlb55.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:35 -!- LBO___ is now known as LBO_ 23:39 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-26-77.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #agavi 23:41 -!- LBO_ [n=chatzill@dkw90.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]"] 23:49 -!- LBO__ [n=chatzill@dke114.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:51 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-215-207.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] --- Day changed Fri Jun 06 2008 00:10 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-26-77.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:55 -!- eremit_ [n=martin@p5B2349AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #agavi 02:57 -!- eremit [n=martin@p5B236790.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:07 -!- eremit_ [n=martin@p5B2349AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 04:27 -!- trophaeum [n=trophaeu@59.167.212.13] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:52 -!- trophaeum [n=trophaeu@59.167.212.13] has joined #agavi 05:03 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 05:43 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:05 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 06:08 -!- Whisller_ [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 06:08 -!- Whisller_ [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:08 -!- Whisller_ [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 06:08 < Whisller_> hi 06:10 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 06:11 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 06:11 -!- Whisller__ [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 06:11 < _cheerios> huomenta 06:19 -!- Whisller___ [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 06:20 -!- Whisller____ [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 06:23 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 06:27 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:28 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 06:31 -!- Whisller_ [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:32 -!- Whisller_ [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 06:37 -!- Whisller___ [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Connection timed out] 06:38 -!- Whisller__ [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:43 -!- Whisller__ [n=Whisller@aasi191.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 06:43 -!- Whisller____ [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:48 -!- Whisller_ [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Connection timed out] 06:48 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-215-207.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 06:50 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@aatr21.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:03 < v-dogg> huomenta 07:10 < E_mE> huomenta! 07:10 < v-dogg> how's it going in the UK 07:11 < E_mE> not too bad, v-dogg what do you think of a page size capped at 300K to aim for 07:11 < E_mE> ive got the opinion that too many sites are too large 07:12 < v-dogg> I agree 07:12 < v-dogg> 300K sounds ok 07:13 < _cheerios> facebook is like over a meg. it has what, 100mil users? :) 07:13 < E_mE> yeah doesn't mean its right, what about the poor sods on narrowband 07:13 < E_mE> or slow computers, i bet FB is crap 07:15 < _cheerios> just saying, it ain't that big of a deal 07:16 < E_mE> saves bandwidth 07:16 < E_mE> ;) 07:17 < v-dogg> one should aim for smaller size but also take the audience into account 07:17 < v-dogg> you gotta have blingbling :p 07:18 < E_mE> jah, i was discussing yday that instead of having 5 seprate images for the row of buttons, due to each button have a different graphical word on it, just to have one button and use it as a background and place HTML over it, so it would save 4x the amount of bandwidth 07:20 < _cheerios> how near your hosts bandwidth limit are you? 07:20 < E_mE> well the server will have 4TB bandwidth, but that still aint the point 07:20 < E_mE> ;) 07:20 < _cheerios> and you expect to use how much monthly serving your pages? 07:21 < E_mE> no real predictions, but we should have 10 djs streaming with a listener base of about 50 or so 07:22 < E_mE> i think psychologically its better to get the designer to believe that the page should no larger then 300k to start with, so they don't go over the top if you get my drift 07:23 < _cheerios> not much audience for the djs. are they like home djs, anyone can dj, or? 07:24 < _cheerios> did you test how much outgoing bw you need for 10 live streams with 50 listeners? 07:24 < E_mE> well we will have 100Mbit connection 07:25 < E_mE> 128kbps 07:25 < E_mE> which sould be able to handle over 700 listeners 07:25 < E_mE> yes they are home dj's 07:25 < E_mE> drum and bass DJs 07:25 < E_mE> there is a community of them which like to do there radio sets each week 07:26 < E_mE> will be charging £5/month for a promised 2 hour slot a week 07:27 < E_mE> well, there will only be 1 live stream btw 07:27 < E_mE> its all schedules 07:27 < E_mE> -s +d 07:36 < Wombert> well that's 60 megabytes per hour per listener, roughly 07:36 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 07:37 < Wombert> isn't there any p2p radio blah these days 07:38 < E_mE> yeah there is a p2p service, but i get highly concerned on how stable it is.. since using p2p file sharing aint the most relaiable 07:38 < E_mE> i guess its worth experimenting with 07:39 < Macen> noob 07:39 < Macen> http://p2p-radio.sourceforge.net/ 07:39 < Macen> etc.. 07:39 < Macen> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=p2p+radio&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a 07:45 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:57 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 08:28 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has joined #agavi 08:28 < Flukey> hey chaps 08:28 < E_mE> morning Flukey 08:29 < Flukey> http://openid.net/ - i *wish* sites would use this system more 08:29 < Flukey> it's such a good idea 08:31 * v-dogg adds a new output type 08:31 < v-dogg> MVC <3 08:31 < v-dogg> and.... 08:31 < v-dogg> there. Houston, we have a JSON API 08:32 < v-dogg> and did I have to touch my actions? of course not :) 08:34 < Flukey> if only there was a beer api.... 08:34 < Flukey> that literally had a physical output :D 08:35 < Macen> heh 08:52 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-215-207.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 08:53 < Macen> god i have a bad throat today 08:54 * Macen drinks some more water 08:56 < E_mE> shot of whisky and chew some garlic will help 09:00 < E_mE> hahahahha http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/05/henry_nicholas_indicted/ -- this guy is mad 09:01 < E_mE> Nicholas is also accused of using ecstasy to spike the drinks of industry executives and employees of Broadcom customers. hahahahahha 09:02 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.166.75.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #agavi 09:03 < digitarald> Huomenta! 09:04 < E_mE> morning digitarald, this article will perk you up first thing: http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/05/henry_nicholas_indicted/ 09:05 < _cheerios> heh 09:06 < digitarald> hey, they know how to party 09:08 < Flukey> ROFL 09:09 < digitarald> at least they keep their invoices 09:17 < Flukey> "One incident alleges Nicholas and others smoked so much marijuana during a flight on his private plane between Orange County and Las Vegas that the pilot had to put on an oxygen mask." hahaha 09:19 < Flukey> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2698507.stm - best article EVER. heh 09:20 * digitarald wonders if nobody has to work 09:35 < Macen> haha 09:35 < Macen> obviously not!! ;) 09:37 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 09:37 < Wombert> <: 10:00 -!- saracen_ [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 10:01 -!- Whisller__ [n=Whisller@aasi191.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 10:03 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-26-77.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #agavi 10:04 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: saracen, rick111_afk, um 10:12 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has left #agavi [] 10:12 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 10:30 -!- rick111 [n=BigRyan@ryanpartington.com] has joined #Agavi 10:34 -!- Netsplit over, joins: um 11:04 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@aasi191.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 11:34 < E_mE> hahahha if you want to see a office man go crazy: http://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/06/office_rampage/ 11:34 < E_mE> the guy goes mental 11:36 < E_mE> throwing montiors around the office and kicking the cubicles in 11:43 < v-dogg> the guy gets a few pretty nasty bunches himself 11:44 < v-dogg> punches* 11:47 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 12:00 < Macen> the kick with 20 seconds left on the mobile cam had to hurt 12:01 < Macen> he was properly trying to cause damage as well 12:01 < Macen> bet he got locked up for that 12:31 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-26-77.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [] 12:34 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@obc-r22-325-217-66-62-6.exozet.com] has joined #agavi 12:46 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 12:51 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 12:55 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [":: www.scopealley.com ::"] 12:57 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 13:08 < Macen> marklar|omni: you type far too fast 13:08 < Macen> can't be healthy 13:09 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 13:24 < Macen> omg 13:25 < Macen> i <3 textmate so much and you can't print landscape or with syntax highlighting 13:25 < Macen> this is going to give me a headache............... 13:27 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:27 < Wombert> yes, it's a pain 13:31 < Macen> so many options but the main ones missing 13:31 < Macen> heh 14:04 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 14:17 -!- gingerbob [n=gingerbo@80.4.120.163] has joined #agavi 14:17 < gingerbob> hey guys 14:18 < gingerbob> quickie 14:18 < gingerbob> when I browse to jlbstaging.venturenavigator.co.uk it redirects to www. - any ideas what config is making it do this? 14:22 < gingerbob> sorted - thanks as ever 14:23 < gingerbob> :) 14:26 -!- gingerbob [n=gingerbo@80.4.120.163] has quit [] 14:32 < Flukey> hey guys. (probably a simple question, but i'm under a tight deadline to work it out :( ) 14:32 < Flukey> http://pastebin.ca/1040425 how do i check if any files have been uploaded? 14:33 < Flukey> i.e. how do i access the file name property? 14:38 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has quit ["beer"] 14:41 < E_mE> Flukey: check getFiles() 14:41 < E_mE> in the API docs 14:43 < Flukey> i did. couldn't find it :( 14:44 < Flukey> found it 14:44 < Flukey> thank you E_mE 14:45 < E_mE> np 14:48 -!- gingerbob [n=gingerbo@80.4.120.163] has joined #agavi 14:49 -!- saracen_ [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:49 < gingerbob> Huomenta 14:49 -!- saracen_ [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 14:55 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@aasi191.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 15:01 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 15:15 < Wombert> huomenta gingerbob 15:35 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 15:37 -!- Xylakant [n=fgilcher@obc-r22-325-217-66-62-6.exozet.com] has joined #agavi 15:37 < Xylakant> #robert_harald_and_me 15:37 < Xylakant> sorry, wrong window :) 15:37 < Xylakant> hello all 15:42 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 15:42 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 15:44 < _cheerios> hello xylakant :) 15:58 < Wombert> owww Xylakant! 15:58 < Wombert> hai2u 16:01 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@lbcomm-gx.abacom.com] has joined #agavi 16:02 * E_mE has successfully managed to pass a POST record to HSBC Bank :D \o/ 16:12 -!- Xylakant [n=fgilcher@obc-r22-325-217-66-62-6.exozet.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:13 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit ["bai"] 16:13 < _cheerios> stay tuned, next up GET! 16:13 * _cheerios goes to shop for some hard liquor 16:22 -!- JanK [n=jan@P3106.pallas.wh.tu-darmstadt.de] has joined #agavi 16:49 < E_mE> have good weekend all 16:49 < E_mE> bye bye 16:55 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 17:27 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 17:32 < marklar|omni> ohai 17:32 -!- JanK [n=jan@P3106.pallas.wh.tu-darmstadt.de] has left #agavi [] 17:53 < Flukey> hey guys 17:54 < Flukey> where do i pass into the form population filter which fields to validate? 17:54 < Flukey> there are quite a few :) 17:55 < v-dogg> fpf doesn't validate anything, the validation system does 17:56 < Flukey> ...? :s 17:56 < v-dogg> you are really talking about input validation, aren't you? 17:56 < v-dogg> http://www.agavi.org/docs/HEAD/manuals/manual/ch03s11.html 17:56 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@obc-r22-325-217-66-62-6.exozet.com] has quit [] 17:57 < Flukey> yups. i have a bunch of input types on my form. I want every field to be required. 17:58 < v-dogg> that manual chapter should get you started 17:59 < Flukey> thank you v-dogg. Much appreciated :) 18:00 < v-dogg> you might want to use isnotempty validator for all fields and then more precise validators for some fields 18:00 < Macen> forms && extjs == massive fail 18:00 < Macen> baiii 18:01 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 18:01 < v-dogg> (you can define several inputs for isnotempty) 18:01 < Flukey> isnotempty = standard ? 18:01 < v-dogg> as in ships with agavi? yes 18:01 < Flukey> indeed. excellent :) 18:03 < Flukey> ok right, so $arguments are my field names, yeah? 18:06 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 18:09 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.166.75.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit ["... is gone ... www.digitarald.de ... but he is coming back!"] 18:09 < Flukey> v-dogg: can i group in validation i.e.? 18:09 < Flukey> i pass through 5fields, and i want one of those fields to be filled in? (doesn't matter which one) 18:09 < Flukey> as long as on the group is filledi n 18:09 < Flukey> *filled 18:10 < Flukey> *as long as one of the group is filled in 18:10 < Flukey> arrrgh. getting tired. 18:30 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-060-119.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 18:31 < _cheerios> Flukey: listen to some summer tunes to stay awake http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7KFZ2iLHkI 18:35 < Flukey> not my cup of tea. :P 18:41 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has quit [] 18:41 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 18:42 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@lbcomm-gx.abacom.com] has quit [] 18:42 < impl> whomp 19:05 -!- eremit [n=martin@p5B2349AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #agavi 19:06 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@courrier.geoimagesolutions.com] has joined #agavi 19:07 -!- eremit [n=martin@p5B2349AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:11 -!- martin__1 [n=martin@p5B2349AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #agavi 19:11 -!- martin__1 is now known as eremit 19:12 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:26 < impl> http://dev.rubyonrails.org/ticket/10919 19:29 < saracen_> lawl 19:33 < _cheerios> a real letdown :) 19:34 < _cheerios> i thought it was a joke, but amazon really is half-down 19:35 < saracen_> Ooo, they've updated the site ;x 19:35 < _cheerios> nothing quite like fixing pressing problems on friday evenings! 19:35 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.166.75.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #agavi 19:43 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 19:49 < _cheerios> http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/02/pf/retirement/vallejo.moneymag/index.htm?cnn=yes 19:56 < Whisller> Hmm --configure-options from php-config is for adding config values for php? Doesn't it? 19:57 < Whisller> Like new extensions etc :> 19:57 < Whisller> Or I'm thinking wrong 20:12 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 20:31 -!- saracen_ [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:31 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 20:46 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@courrier.geoimagesolutions.com] has quit [] 20:53 < saracen> I has problems 20:54 < saracen> I need a validator thats like IsEmpty, rather than IsNotEmpty. Will I have to make this? Or is there a way to "reverse" the output or something? 20:55 < saracen> I'm using at a dependancy for another validator. Basically, "If the checkbox is checked... _dont_ validate these other fields" "If the checkbox isn't checked... validate these other fields" 20:55 < digitarald> u can use regexp 20:55 < saracen> I'm using it as* 20:55 < digitarald> mh, no 20:55 < digitarald> u use your own class, right? 20:56 < saracen> I'm using the build in validator classes, so far. I could use IsSet, but theres no IsNotSet :P 20:56 < saracen> built* 20:56 < digitarald> u need to write your own validator 20:56 < saracen> Ah, kk. Shouldnt be too difficult =) 20:57 < saracen> Thank you 20:58 < digitarald> just copy the Isset Validator and add some ! ;) 20:59 < saracen> So, just to be sure, there isnt like a not_depends parameter? :P 20:59 < saracen> Hmm, that wouldnt make sense 20:59 < saracen> nevermind :P 20:59 < digitarald> one more thing, the default validator checks that ALL arguments are given, you need to override that method in yours 20:59 < digitarald> protected function checkAllArgumentsSet($throwError = true) { 20:59 < digitarald> return true; 20:59 < digitarald> } 21:00 < digitarald> otherwise the validator fails because he does not have any value to check 21:01 < digitarald> checkAllArgumentsSet: Returns whether all arguments are set in the validation input parameters. Set means anything but empty string. 21:01 < digitarald> thats why you hack it to "true" 21:01 < digitarald> ok, laters. good luck 21:02 < saracen> thank you :) 21:04 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.166.75.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit ["... is gone ... www.digitarald.de ... but he is coming back!"] 21:09 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 21:29 < Wombert> ... 21:29 < Wombert> nonsense 21:29 < Wombert> just wrap it in a "not" validator, saracen 21:39 -!- LBO_ [n=chatzill@dkd93.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 21:39 < LBO_> huomenta guys! 21:41 < LBO_> Wombert: Hi, can I ask U an another question about MVC? 21:43 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:52 < LBO_> Some time ago I made a model which only goal is to search users – so no methods like getUserBy*() deleteUserBy*() etc. rather method which corensponds to form inputs values e.g. showFields($name) if user marks some adequate checkboxes. Short: controller do all stuff, sets up model for searching. Is this proper way? Or as u told me yesterday about salting password, I should just pass form... 21:52 < LBO_> ...data to search() method of standard model and let it do all the stuff? 21:53 < LBO_> all the work* 22:53 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 23:38 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [] 23:48 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] --- Day changed Sat Jun 07 2008 00:02 -!- erisco [n=erisco@brisco.kent.net] has joined #agavi 01:11 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 02:07 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-060-119.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 02:42 -!- erisco [n=erisco@brisco.kent.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:55 -!- eremit_ [n=martin@p5B234239.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #agavi 03:09 -!- eremit [n=martin@p5B2349AA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:32 -!- eremit_ [n=martin@p5B234239.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 05:49 -!- LBO_ [n=chatzill@dkd93.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]"] 07:06 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 07:06 < _cheerios> huomenta 07:40 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 07:40 -!- codecop_ [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 07:41 -!- codecop_ [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Client Quit] 07:50 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 08:08 < Whisller> hi 08:25 < Whisller> hmm I cannot execute entropy on leopard :> Heh I must compile php hard way ehhh 08:26 < Whisller> I never doing it ;p 08:54 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:07 < _cheerios> i made debs for kubuntu earlier, thinking "nice -- now i can do the same for debian". as if. only more headaches. 09:07 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 09:34 < Whisller> ehh shit I crash my php 09:34 < Whisller> kurwa mac 09:39 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-060-119.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 09:46 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [] 09:46 -!- liutis [n=codecop@88.119.253.245] has joined #agavi 09:49 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 09:51 < E_mE[Stilgar]> huomenta 09:52 < marklar|omni> ohai 10:58 -!- Wombert_ [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-175-037.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 11:07 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-060-119.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:18 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 11:19 < Whisller> ha i got php :D first time I compiled apache and php :) 11:19 < Whisller> I'm proud of myself 11:20 < Whisller> applause please ;) 11:22 < Whisller> heh ok :P 11:29 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [] 12:01 -!- liutis [n=codecop@88.119.253.245] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:02 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 12:15 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 12:15 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 13:14 < E_mE[Stilgar]> hehehe some fail here: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/wtflibphp.aspx 13:54 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 13:55 < Whisller> huh did you saw that http://youtube.com/watch?v=XyVDF6BiKtQ ? google rocks ;) 14:03 < _cheerios> mmm... steak 14:06 < Whisller> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwyWKMRsIfg&feature=related huh :D 14:06 < Whisller> And other office ;) 14:06 < Whisller> but not from google :D 14:18 < _cheerios> not bad! 14:56 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 15:00 < Wombert_> http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/06/02.html 15:07 -!- Wombert_ is now known as Wombert 15:19 < _cheerios> http://img.terra.com.br/i/2008/06/06/777805-3843-ga.jpg competition 15:20 < Whisller> who won? ;) 15:47 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit ["I'll back"] 15:52 < Macen> having a problem with pass by reference 15:53 < Macen> i'm trying to figure a more efficient way of cleaning data passed from user 15:54 < Macen> so i have mysql::encode() which can either accept an array from func_get_args() or in list format 15:55 < Macen> http://paste2.org/p/36739 15:56 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 15:56 < Macen> purpose is to be able to pass the method as many arguments as is required, and even in some cases, just do mysql::encode(func_get_args()); and have all the variables in the method being called from cleaned via pass by reference 15:58 < Macen> is this even possible? 15:58 < trophaeum> Macen, u should strip tags before escaping 15:58 < trophaeum> u probably also should call iconv to make sure it matches the charset of the db 16:13 < Macen> trophaeum: added runtime config to mysql construct class (couldn't think of a better place heh): array(3) { ["input_encoding"]=> string(5) "UTF-8" ["output_encoding"]=> string(5) "UTF-8" ["internal_encoding"]=> string(5) "UTF-8"} 16:14 < Macen> trophaeum: seems ok you can convert encodings, but how do you detect what the character encoding the string passed is in? 16:14 < trophaeum> "" is autodetect in iconv, i dunno how well it picks up say utf7 though 16:14 < trophaeum> mostly youll want it for bad isoblah data but utf7 is my main concern normally 16:15 < Macen> string iconv ( "" , string $out_charset , string $str ) <--will auto-detect? 16:15 < Macen> as bdest it can 16:15 < trophaeum> ya 16:16 < Macen> k ty 16:16 < trophaeum> out charset being your db content encoding 16:16 < Macen> yea 16:16 < Macen> mb_* is sooo slow 16:16 < trophaeum> haha, they are, but utf8 is just painful, end of story 16:17 * Macen <3 utf8 16:17 < Macen> it's quite a complete package imo? 16:17 < Macen> anyway :) 16:17 < trophaeum> it is, its just not that friendly when it comes to coding at times 16:17 < trophaeum> shit like worrying about utf7 vs utf8 and mb_* 16:17 < trophaeum> bleh 16:18 < Macen> hopefully my other problem will now be apparent :> 16:56 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 16:58 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 17:18 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@e178145188.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #agavi 17:18 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@e178145188.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Client Quit] 18:04 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 18:06 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 19:17 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 19:34 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 19:42 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: E_mE[Stilgar] 19:42 -!- Netsplit over, joins: E_mE[Stilgar] 19:45 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: E_mE[Stilgar] 19:48 -!- Netsplit over, joins: E_mE[Stilgar] 19:53 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: E_mE[Stilgar] 19:53 -!- Netsplit over, joins: E_mE[Stilgar] 19:55 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:59 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: E_mE[Stilgar] 20:00 -!- Netsplit over, joins: E_mE[Stilgar] 20:02 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 20:02 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 20:07 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: E_mE[Stilgar] 20:07 -!- Netsplit over, joins: E_mE[Stilgar] 20:11 -!- E_mE[Stilgar] [n=jeramy@bb-195-172-54-217.ukonline.co.uk] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:11 -!- E_mE[Stilgar] [n=jeramy@bb-195-172-54-217.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #agavi 20:12 < E_mE[Stilgar]> wtf's happening? is everyone getting made netsplits? 20:17 < _cheerios> just you 20:18 < trophaeum> ur on the losing end :) 20:23 < E_mE[Stilgar]> :/ 20:28 < marklar|omni> ohai 20:44 < Wombert> phai 20:51 < Whisller> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419 21:08 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 21:50 < marklar|omni> hrm 21:50 < marklar|omni> I have a slotted Menu action 21:50 < marklar|omni> and I want to check the parameters to the "parent" action 21:50 < marklar|omni> can has? 21:51 < _cheerios> it's 1am and i need more vodka :< 22:06 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [] 23:22 < Wombert> marklar|omni: noes 23:22 < Wombert> marklar|omni: or well hmm 23:22 < Wombert> what do you want? :p --- Day changed Sun Jun 08 2008 00:34 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 01:24 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 01:32 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 01:52 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-175-037.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 02:29 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 02:29 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 02:59 < marklar|omni> eh hai 03:31 -!- sikkle [i=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 03:31 -!- sikkle [n=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 03:31 -!- sikkle [n=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 03:31 -!- siksdkakd [n=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 03:32 -!- siksdkakd [n=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Client Quit] 04:23 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 04:34 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 04:44 -!- shoan [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has joined #agavi 04:56 -!- shoan_ [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 04:57 -!- shoan_ [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 04:57 -!- shoan_ [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 04:58 -!- shoan_ [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Client Quit] 05:15 -!- shoan [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:32 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:08 < v-dogg> huomenta 07:09 < MikeSeth> huomenta 07:10 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 07:10 < ttj_> Hmm... Still in Turku. :O 07:11 < v-dogg> so why leave at all 07:12 < ttj_> Because it's Turku. 07:12 < MikeSeth> what's Turku? 07:12 < ttj_> It's never a good sign to wake up in Turku. 07:13 < ttj_> MikeSeth: A silly little town on the western coast of Finland. 07:14 < v-dogg> MikeSeth: the capital of Finland (up till ~200 years ago :) 07:14 < ttj_> Where all the people talk funny... 07:14 < v-dogg> heh 07:14 < ttj_> And try to fall on top of you in the grill queue... :( 07:15 < ttj_> Granted, that also happens in Helsinki, so maybe the problem is with me. 07:32 -!- MikeSeth_ [n=youdie@62.90.159.110] has joined #agavi 07:33 -!- MikeSeth [n=youdie@unaffiliated/mikeseth] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 07:35 -!- MikeSeth_ is now known as MikeSeth 07:50 < _cheerios> huomenta 08:23 -!- liona29 [n=liona29@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr] has joined #Agavi 08:25 -!- liona29 [n=liona29@d033.dhcp212-198-248.noos.fr] has quit [Client Quit] 08:51 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-175-037.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 09:22 < E_mE[Stilgar]> huomenta 09:36 < E_mE[Stilgar]> if i want to use $t instead of $template, which file must i modify to allow this? 09:52 < v-dogg> E_mE[Stilgar]: output_types (see tequila) 09:53 < v-dogg> http://svn.projectbin.org/tequila/trunk/app/config/output_types.xml 09:55 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 09:57 -!- MikeSeth_ [n=youdie@62.90.159.110] has joined #agavi 10:09 < E_mE[Stilgar]> v-dogg: thank you 10:10 -!- MikeSeth [n=youdie@unaffiliated/mikeseth] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:40 < E_mE[Stilgar]> aaahhh what a beautiful down! hot sunshine and nice beach :D 10:42 -!- Arme[N] [n=Arme[N]@unaffiliated/armen/x-394205] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:44 < E_mE[Stilgar]> day* 10:50 -!- Wombert_ [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-172-087.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 10:52 < Wombert_> you guys using plural tags there throughout? 10:52 < Wombert_> interesting 10:53 < Wombert_> hah you forgot one for http_headers <: 10:54 < v-dogg> that's copied from some older project of mine 10:55 < v-dogg> and, despite the ever so active development team, there might still be some sillyness :) 10:56 -!- Arme[N] [n=Arme[N]@unaffiliated/armen/x-394205] has joined #agavi 10:56 < v-dogg> "Revision 3: /trunk" 10:56 < v-dogg> :p 10:56 < Wombert_> :p 11:06 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-175-037.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:20 < stachu> hello 11:21 < stachu> Wombert: I saw your post or something like that, some days ago, about speeding up agavi 11:21 < stachu> could you remind me where i can find it? 11:22 < stachu> becouse im thinking about server configuration etc. best for agavi 11:38 < Wombert_> me? 11:38 < Wombert_> nah 11:38 -!- Wombert_ is now known as Wombert 12:28 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:29 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:30 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 12:30 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:30 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 13:01 -!- saracen_ [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 13:01 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:14 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:15 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 14:42 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 14:53 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 14:57 < _cheerios> installed vmware server, but it won't start the console. what blackmagic voodoo did this software need to work again? 15:07 < Wombert> WINDOWS :> 15:23 < _cheerios> :) install fine, says all is fine, yet console never comes up, and no errors anywhere to be found. 15:53 < _cheerios> probably yet another 64bit running 32bit software problem. running via console gives a "locking assertion failure" 16:12 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:13 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 16:22 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit ["Konversation terminated!"] 16:24 -!- saracen_ [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:24 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 16:24 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 16:30 -!- sikkle [n=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 16:33 < _cheerios> seems like an older version of vmware was the trick here 16:44 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 16:45 < E_mE[Stilgar]> mmm tequila is perfect sun spirit :D 16:46 < E_mE[Stilgar]> Germany vs Poland in couple of hours :D 16:49 < _cheerios> mass fights ahoy :p 16:52 < E_mE[Stilgar]> you think? 16:58 < E_mE[Stilgar]> _cheerios: i hear what you mean now, just said on the TV that 17 where arrested for violence yday 16:59 < _cheerios> f1 stream won't start :/ damn 17:08 < E_mE[Stilgar]> isnt it on TV in finland? 17:19 < _cheerios> paytv 17:19 < _cheerios> (plus i dont have a tv) 17:20 < marklar|omni> fail 17:20 < _cheerios> haha at alonsons overtaking. MOVE BOY 17:20 < marklar|omni> bought a new box for gf 17:20 < marklar|omni> won't power up 17:20 < marklar|omni> looks like psu is full of fail 17:21 < marklar|omni> ;[ 17:28 < _cheerios> aww :{ 17:31 < _cheerios> LOOL 17:31 < _cheerios> crashed in the pits 17:32 < _cheerios> hamilton ran into räikkönen. both out.. in the pits! 17:38 < Wombert> so ace 17:38 < Wombert> :> 17:38 < Wombert> red lights mean you have to stop, lewis 17:38 < Wombert> ... 17:38 < Wombert> rosberg was too fast, too 17:38 < Wombert> didn't pay attention either 17:39 < Wombert> marklar|omni: buy her a mac :p 17:39 < _cheerios> did you see räikkönen after that ? 17:40 < _cheerios> he tapped hamilton on the back, and pointed his finger at the red lights, then just walked on 17:40 < _cheerios> i've never seen that happen in f1 before 17:41 < _cheerios> yer, nico was as blind as hamilton 17:47 < _cheerios> second time this year hamilton has been crashing into people by being careless 17:48 < _cheerios> (iirc, unless that previous one was last years -- been a while :)) 18:05 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 18:22 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:23 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 18:37 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #AGAVI 19:19 < _cheerios> kubica leads the rankings now. that's a surprise if something :) 19:28 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 19:34 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 19:40 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 19:56 < _cheerios> hehe http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii94/kerhardman/woodeye.jpg 19:57 < _cheerios> "if the red light is on, when you're leaving the pit, you need to stop. then some woodeye ran into me, Räikkönen grumbled" 20:06 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 20:16 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 20:45 < Wombert> woodeye? oO 20:46 < ttj_> Wow, I was able to feel pain by pinching my lip. That must mean that the nerve isn't entirely dead. \o/ 20:50 < _cheerios> Wombert: finnish expression. it's pretty funny, "puusilmä" :) 20:51 < impl> crazy Finns 20:52 < Wombert> it was a good race either way 20:53 < Wombert> except that barrichello was holding everyone up and I'm not quite sure how webber managed to so completely ruin his race while DC managed fine 20:53 < Wombert> and rosberg, of course, was just as much of a puusilmä as hamilton 20:55 < _cheerios> ace race 20:55 < _cheerios> formula drivers, like hamilton, arent used to braking :) 21:27 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@24-122-39-195.ab.cgocable.ca] has joined #agavi 22:20 < _cheerios> aww, rain all week :/ 22:23 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@24-122-39-195.ab.cgocable.ca] has quit [] --- Day changed Mon Jun 09 2008 00:06 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-172-087.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 00:09 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@24-122-39-195.ab.cgocable.ca] has joined #agavi 00:26 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@24-122-39-195.ab.cgocable.ca] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:28 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 00:34 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 01:02 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:23 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 01:36 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@24-122-39-195.ab.cgocable.ca] has joined #agavi 02:03 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@24-122-39-195.ab.cgocable.ca] has left #agavi [] 02:25 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: @ChanServ 02:26 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @ChanServ 02:47 -!- brasileiro_ [n=dsad@201-35-184-231.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #agavi 02:47 -!- MichaelV- [n=Trance@201-66-218-167.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #agavi 02:57 -!- MichaelV- [n=Trance@201-66-218-167.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit ["The 7 Deadly Sins: its all day strong, all day long   [www.t7ds.com.br]"] 02:58 -!- brasileiro_ [n=dsad@201-35-184-231.smace701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [] 03:12 -!- saracen_ [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 03:13 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: saracen 03:20 -!- Netsplit over, joins: saracen 03:21 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:43 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 07:12 -!- keerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 07:14 < E_mE> huomenta 07:19 -!- gingerbob [n=gingerbo@80.4.120.163] has quit [] 07:23 -!- _cheerios is now known as Guest59399 07:24 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has joined #agavi 07:25 < Flukey> Morning all. 07:26 -!- keerios is now known as _cheerios 07:28 -!- Guest59399 [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:37 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@aast124.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 07:37 < Whisller> hi 07:40 < Flukey> hello all. can agavi do valdation grouping? i.e. i have 6 groups of fields each with 5 options. can i validate each group so have at least one of their options filledi n? 07:45 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 07:46 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 07:58 < Flukey> public function registerWriteValidators(){ $validationManager = $this->getContext()->getValidationManager(); 07:58 < Flukey> error: Fatal error: Call to undefined method AgaviContext::getValidationManager() 07:58 < Flukey> :S 08:06 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 08:08 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@aast124.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 08:09 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 08:33 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 08:33 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 08:39 -!- Arme[N] [n=Arme[N]@unaffiliated/armen/x-394205] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:40 < nfq> Wombert: http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1114.html 08:46 -!- Arme[N] [n=Arme[N]@unaffiliated/armen/x-394205] has joined #agavi 08:49 < E_mE> is there a quick way of flushing the DNS data on a windows server??? 08:49 < E_mE> not client based, but the server cache 08:54 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 09:00 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 09:06 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@aast124.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 09:09 -!- Whisller_ [n=Whisller@aast124.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 09:19 -!- Whisller__ [n=Whisller@aast124.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 09:26 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@aast124.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Connection timed out] 09:27 < Flukey> http://www.agavi.org/docs/HEAD/manuals/manual/ch03s11.html the examples in there don't work. :s 09:27 < Flukey> i.e. example 11.3.2.1 i put in my action class 09:27 < Flukey> but i get erros telling me validation manager isn't found 09:30 < Wombert> this->getCOntainer() 09:35 < Flukey> oh brililant :) thanks 09:35 -!- Whisller_ [n=Whisller@aast124.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:35 < Flukey> is that a recent change or just a mistake? 09:40 < Wombert> mistake 09:40 < Wombert> it used to be like this a long time ago 09:41 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 09:41 < Flukey> oh ok :) thanks Wombert 09:41 * Macen humps Wombert 09:41 < Wombert> that's very kind of you, Macen, but I'd rather not 09:42 < Macen> you don't have much of a say tbh Wombert 09:42 < Macen> it's more rape than consexual sex 09:42 * Wombert shudders 09:44 < _cheerios> huomenta 10:11 < Flukey> huomenta _cheerios 10:18 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@62.159.95.202] has joined #agavi 10:19 < Flukey> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7443557.stm cool 10:25 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 10:33 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 10:33 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 10:34 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 10:51 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@220.Red-83-58-165.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 10:54 < _cheerios> http://jquery.com/blog/2008/06/09/jquery-ui-v15-released-focus-on-consistent-api-and-effects/ 10:54 < _cheerios> sounds good 10:56 < digitarald> "What we came up with, was an API that removed 95% of our exposed methods, and kept only one single overloaded method per plugin." ... don't like their super-powerful one-method-for-all style 11:01 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 11:18 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@62.159.95.202] has quit [] 11:33 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #agavi 11:40 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has joined #agavi 11:41 -!- shoan [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 12:12 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 12:20 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@62.159.95.202] has joined #agavi 12:30 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 12:48 -!- shoan [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:13 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:17 -!- shoan [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has joined #agavi 13:18 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@62.159.95.202] has quit [] 13:38 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 13:44 < Flukey> afternoon fellas 13:47 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 13:49 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 14:00 < Wombert> a new face! 14:00 < Wombert> welcome to Agavi, MerlinDMC 14:01 < MerlinDMC> hum ... face controlled channel -.- 14:01 < MerlinDMC> hello. :) 14:07 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 14:14 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 14:16 -!- E_mE [n=jeramy@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:17 -!- shoan [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:20 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 14:21 -!- E_mE [n=jeramy@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has joined #agavi 14:21 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 14:22 -!- E_mE [n=jeramy@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has quit [Client Quit] 14:38 < Flukey> does $rd->hasFiles() exist or it's equivalent? 14:45 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Leaving..."] 14:46 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:56 -!- E_mE [n=jeramy@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has joined #agavi 15:03 -!- Whisller__ [n=Whisller@aast124.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [] 15:17 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 15:28 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:28 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 15:37 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has quit [] 15:45 < _cheerios> does rsync choke with big files (>10G) ? 15:50 < Macen> well, in fact, yes it does 15:50 < Macen> when i switched from ftp to rsync i did a lot of reading, and the problem is, it checks against hash tables 15:50 < Macen> thus with large files collisions are prone 15:51 < Macen> [root@localhost ~]# rsync --version 15:51 < Macen> rsync version 2.6.3 protocol version 28 15:51 < Macen> imac:~ craigfairhurst$ rsync --version 15:51 < Macen> rsync version 2.6.3 protocol version 28 15:52 < Macen> pretty sure i checked i was reading up to date info 15:54 < Macen> _cheerios 15:54 < Macen> ^ 15:54 < _cheerios> i got hangups transferring a file last night 15:54 < Macen> just googled, i was 15:54 < _cheerios> then again today. just wondering. 15:55 < _cheerios> i know my new comp is an unstable pos, but still :) 15:55 < Macen> http://lists.samba.org/archive/rsync/2005-April/012198.html 15:55 < E_mE> is rubbish 15:55 < E_mE> in you put a url http://foo/index.htm with it 15:55 < E_mE> it says taht you include is 404 15:55 * E_mE slaps #include 15:56 < Macen> _cheerios: it won't fail but it will go dead slow, so could be either that or maybe connection 15:56 < Macen> obviously 15:56 < Macen> heh :) yes there is a known problem with file sizes :> 15:56 < E_mE> svn++ 16:06 < _cheerios> "Bad page state in process" 16:06 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [":: www.scopealley.com ::"] 16:06 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 16:11 -!- icyt is now known as IcyT 16:16 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 16:24 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@220.Red-83-58-165.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:27 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 16:31 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:32 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 16:36 < _cheerios> try #5... 16:39 -!- siksdkakd [n=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 16:40 -!- sikkle [n=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:45 -!- pookey [n=pookey@emo.two-pebbles.com] has left #agavi [] 16:58 -!- MikeSeth_ is now known as MikeSeth 17:03 < marklar|omni> fuck goddamnit 17:03 < marklar|omni> mike 17:04 < marklar|omni> do we have a spare psu at home 17:04 < marklar|omni> an atx one 17:06 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has quit [] 17:07 < MikeSeth> maybe one 17:09 < marklar|omni> mh 17:23 -!- MikeSeth [n=youdie@unaffiliated/mikeseth] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:27 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@dslb-084-062-163-017.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 17:30 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@dslb-084-062-163-017.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Client Quit] 17:35 < marklar|omni> http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=373150 17:53 < _cheerios> i removez one memory stick. guess this is a 6GB board with this type of ram then. atleast dont have to worry about crashes *fingers crossed* 17:54 < _cheerios> not overclocked to 4Ghz yet? 17:59 < marklar|omni> nope 17:59 < marklar|omni> just put in the cpu today 17:59 < marklar|omni> and it's hot 17:59 < marklar|omni> I mean, ~30c 17:59 < marklar|omni> :D 17:59 < marklar|omni> I need a tuniq tower and some better ram before I OC 17:59 < marklar|omni> and more money 17:59 < marklar|omni> blah 18:05 < _cheerios> gah. why does vmware have to overwrite key bindings for virtual desktops hotkeys .8 and my keyboard is all funky now too. bleh 18:06 < _cheerios> i wonder if 'host clock rate change request' spam affects the host 18:11 < _cheerios> and the odd effect of sudo stops working and things just feel like everythings broken. gah. 18:14 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@dslb-084-062-163-017.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 18:15 < marklar|omni> _cheerios: :( 18:15 < marklar|omni> there's that creeping feeling of overwhelming fail 18:15 < marklar|omni> I hate that 18:16 < _cheerios> seems starting vmware switched the kb layout to us, messing up things good 18:17 < _cheerios> ive just had way too much trouble with this new puter than i could've ever imagined 18:17 < _cheerios> that little things annoy even more so when they happen 18:18 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@dslb-084-062-163-017.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Client Quit] 18:26 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@202.Red-79-144-210.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 18:42 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit [] 18:52 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 18:57 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:06 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 19:13 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@202.Red-79-144-210.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [":: www.scopealley.com ::"] 19:17 < Whisller> hi 19:38 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-169-054.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 19:54 < _cheerios> http://www.hs.fi/kuvat/iso_webkuva/1135237042427.jpeg ouch (finnish. graph on how fked you are with a house loan) 19:54 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 19:55 < ttj_> Nice. 19:55 < ttj_> 19:58 -!- shoan [n=shoan@216.26.225.163] has joined #agavi 19:59 -!- shoan_ [n=shoan@216.26.225.163] has joined #agavi 19:59 -!- shoan [n=shoan@216.26.225.163] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 20:01 < _cheerios> mm... new apple iphone specs and prices announced. at that price could be the next phone i buy. 20:03 < _cheerios> nokia n61i looks tempting too. all those keys to press! 20:04 < ttj_> The problem with the iPhone is still that even with that price, Apple will arm wrestle Sonera to get a decent slice of their ARPU, causing the price of the contract to be sort of high. 20:04 < _cheerios> The iPhone 3G will be available July 11th in 22 countries for $199 for 8 GB and $299 for 16 GB... but how much is that thing in monthly fees? 20:05 < _cheerios> i'll get one if i can ditch the monthly costs at the employer :) 20:06 < ttj_> I doubt I can get one since we use Elisa. 20:07 < ttj_> But I did have an iPhone for a short while last autumn. 20:07 < ttj_> It was useful for sabotaging meetings. 20:08 < _cheerios> :) 20:09 < _cheerios> nokia is coming out with touchscreen phones this year. give us the scoop! 20:09 < E_mE[Stilgar]> anyone implemented Paypal into one of there sites before here? 20:11 < ttj_> Sorry, no idea about the touchscreen stuff. But considering the previous track record, I wouldn't be surprised if we'd fuck this up too. 20:11 < ttj_> (Obligatory disclaimer: these views are my views and do not reflect the views of my employer. :P) 20:12 < _cheerios> another n-gage? *g* 20:30 < _cheerios> gas is upto 1.8e/l in finland, and in us, they're stealing from each others tanks (the cars there dont have locks in the tank knobs) at a mere 0.63e/l. cheapskates! 20:40 < ttj_> I think someone should start gathering statistics about traffic jams in the Helsinki metropolitan area and then plot them against the gas prices. 20:45 -!- shoan [n=shoan@216.26.225.163] has joined #agavi 20:45 -!- shoan_ [n=shoan@216.26.225.163] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:47 -!- shoan_ [n=shoan@216.26.225.163] has joined #agavi 20:47 -!- shoan [n=shoan@216.26.225.163] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 21:11 -!- shoan_ [n=shoan@216.26.225.163] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:29 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:33 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 22:09 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [] 22:15 -!- CIA-5 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 22:19 -!- CIA-5 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #agavi 22:27 -!- CIA-5 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:31 -!- shoan [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 22:34 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-169-054.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 22:35 -!- CIA-5 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #agavi 22:58 -!- shoan_ [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has joined #agavi 23:04 -!- shoan [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:25 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:28 -!- IcyT is now known as icyt 23:29 -!- shoan_ [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:34 -!- shoan [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi --- Day changed Tue Jun 10 2008 00:54 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 02:50 -!- shoan [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:07 -!- shoan [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 03:24 -!- shoan [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:24 -!- shoan [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 03:29 -!- shoan_ [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 03:40 -!- shoan__ [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has joined #agavi 03:42 -!- shoan [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:47 -!- shoan_ [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:03 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 05:21 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 05:32 -!- shoan__ [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 05:48 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:14 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #agavi 06:16 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 06:17 < _cheerios> huomenta 06:23 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 06:31 < _cheerios> mm...morning gift, kubuntu packages upgraded firefox to rc2 06:58 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 07:31 < marklar|omni> ohai 07:41 < E_mE> huomenta 07:45 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 07:45 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Client Quit] 07:50 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@62.159.95.202] has joined #agavi 08:13 -!- MikeSeth [n=youdie@unaffiliated/mikeseth] has joined #agavi 08:15 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 08:21 < MikeSeth> huomenta 08:23 < E_mE> pets MikeSeth 08:46 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has joined #agavi 08:46 < Flukey> Morning chaps 08:46 < Flukey> is there a way in any of the agavi app config to make a site offline? 08:47 < E_mE> what do you mean offline? 08:47 < E_mE> like display a holding page? 08:48 < Flukey> yups 08:48 < Flukey> i.e. 'This site is down for maintenance' 08:48 < Flukey> just a general agavi setting 08:48 < E_mE> mmm thats a good question 08:48 < _cheerios> settings.xml 08:48 < E_mE> id think something in routing would need to be done 08:49 * E_mE puts ear upto _cheerios for any opinion on the matter 08:51 < _cheerios> huh? true 08:51 < E_mE> ahhhhh 08:51 < E_mE> what happens if that is false? does it just display 404 or so? 08:51 -!- MikeSeth_ [n=youdie@62.90.159.110] has joined #agavi 08:52 < _cheerios> look into Default module and it the end result should be evident 08:54 < E_mE> ah see see.. ill have to do that later 08:58 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@62.159.95.202] has quit [] 08:59 < Flukey> sorry for late response guys 08:59 < Flukey> damn. i should of read this earlier! 08:59 < Flukey> i just had to change an action to return 'Maintenance' on a module 08:59 < Flukey> heh 09:02 -!- fredrik [n=fredrik@209-20-72-71.slicehost.net] has joined #agavi 09:02 -!- fredrik is now known as fholmstrom 09:02 < fholmstrom> yo bitches 09:03 -!- MikeSeth [n=youdie@unaffiliated/mikeseth] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 09:06 < _cheerios> hello fholstrom 09:08 < fholmstrom> been a fucking horrible week and previous weekend so far, wooooooooooooooooorking constantly 09:08 * fholmstrom cries 09:09 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-169-054.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 09:15 < fholmstrom> Wombert: heya 09:15 < fholmstrom> been of from irc for a few days, etc. 09:15 < fholmstrom> eat-work-sleep for a f ew days now ;P 09:25 < Macen> serious back pains today :x 09:25 < Macen> o..m..g 09:25 < Macen> srsly bad back pains 09:25 < fholmstrom> serious work paints today ;P 09:25 < fholmstrom> ouch ;( 09:25 < Macen> i kno :/ 09:25 < fholmstrom> I used to have that a while back, apparently got it from my father 09:25 < fholmstrom> oncei couldnt get out of bed 09:26 < fholmstrom> but havnt had it in ages now 09:26 < fholmstrom> it sucks tho! 09:26 < Macen> it does indeed big time 09:26 < fholmstrom> but if it hurts enough you get to go the doctors and get morphine 09:26 < fholmstrom> now THAT is fun 09:26 < Macen> i can't even remember what i dreamt :( 09:26 < Macen> lol fholmstrom 09:26 * fholmstrom always takes to many morphine pills 09:26 < Macen> i never had morphine , yet :) 09:26 < fholmstrom> and you get all fuzzy 09:27 * fholmstrom only slept like 3h or so tonight 09:27 < fholmstrom> falling asleep at my kboard 09:27 < Macen> i've spent half the morning on my couch lol 09:27 < fholmstrom> :P 09:28 < fholmstrom> at home or at the office? 09:28 < E_mE> send some of those pills down here ;) 09:28 < fholmstrom> dont have any left :( 09:28 < Macen> office, they gave me a nice leather one 09:28 < fholmstrom> you always get like 20 or so pills 09:28 < fholmstrom> and only need maybe 6 total 09:28 < fholmstrom> but i always end up eating all of them anyway over a few days :P 09:28 < Macen> just take 7/8 and enjoy the show 09:28 < Macen> apparently it can be quite fun ! 09:28 < fholmstrom> well 09:28 < fholmstrom> 7-8 is frekn dangerous 09:29 < fholmstrom> that slike 09:29 < fholmstrom> leathal 09:29 < fholmstrom> so nothnx ;P 09:29 < Macen> haha lol 09:29 < Macen> depends on the strength ofc 09:29 < fholmstrom> yeah but the ones I had ;P 09:29 < Macen> and - always read the label !!! 09:30 < Macen> couch is calling.. 09:30 < Macen> it's so darn comfortable 09:30 < fholmstrom> They asked me to accessibilkity-enable a site 09:30 < fholmstrom> i wonder if they'll be happy if i increase the font-size with 500% and contrast all the colors ;( 09:31 < Macen> most of the guidelines are either common sense or are very similar to SEO techniques 09:31 < fholmstrom> ye 09:31 * Macen humps w3c 09:31 < fholmstrom> im just lazy as fuck 09:31 < fholmstrom> today 09:31 < Macen> there is that 09:31 * Wombert has a proper office chair; back pains gone since 09:31 < fholmstrom> yeah got a nice one here also 09:32 < Macen> good point 09:32 < fholmstrom> to bad the only good thing about this job 09:32 < fholmstrom> is the fucking chair i sit in 09:32 < fholmstrom> ;( 09:32 < Macen> well, back to the couch :p 09:32 < fholmstrom> enjoy M;D 09:32 < Macen> heh sole trader is more apt :p 09:33 < fholmstrom> think im going to disect a ball-pen 09:33 < fholmstrom> brb getting a knife 09:33 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@62.159.95.202] has joined #agavi 09:38 < Flukey> what on earth does 'vis-a-vis' mean? 09:43 < Wombert> french 09:43 < Wombert> compared to, next to, blah 09:44 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-169-054.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["bai"] 09:45 -!- LBO_ [i=d4a06aa0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6a206732e69969b0] has joined #agavi 09:45 < LBO_> huomenta guys 09:45 < ttj_> Flukey: Apropos, using French idioms is lame. :P 09:46 < LBO_> I've got a problem with login form validation :/ 09:46 < LBO_> Ive got working xml validation config 09:46 < LBO_> but it work only if I loggin in from {base_url}/login 09:47 < Flukey> thankies :D 09:47 < LBO_> if login form is trigerred by auth mechanism validation apears not working :/ 09:50 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #agavi 09:51 < LBO_> oh, my fault validation works, but FPF do not insert error messages 09:53 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@196.Red-83-50-116.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 09:53 < v-dogg> by default it doesn't 09:53 < digitarald> Huomenta 09:53 < Flukey> Huomenta digitarald 09:54 < LBO_> v-dogg: but it insert error messages if login action is called directly. 09:59 < LBO_> okay, I've got it - it was form action fault. IT was $ro->gen(null) not $ro->gen('login') 10:03 -!- LBO_ [i=d4a06aa0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-6a206732e69969b0] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 10:05 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-169-054.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 10:06 < E_mE> Wombert: new OSX Snow Leapold on the horrison 10:06 < E_mE> horizon* 10:06 < Wombert> Leopard :p 10:07 * Wombert pets E_mE 10:07 < fholmstrom> OS X Leopold 10:07 < fholmstrom> givfe. 10:07 < fholmstrom> OS X Greg 10:07 < E_mE> :S 10:08 < E_mE> Wombert: rumours there going to discontinue support for PwPC 10:09 -!- LBO_ [i=d4a06aa0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cac45bd0f9f07e8f] has joined #agavi 10:09 -!- LBO_ [i=d4a06aa0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-cac45bd0f9f07e8f] has quit [Client Quit] 10:09 -!- LBO_ [i=d4a06aa0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a2679685e3c003ea] has joined #agavi 10:10 < LBO_> d 10:10 -!- LBO_ [i=d4a06aa0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a2679685e3c003ea] has left #agavi [] 10:11 -!- LBO_ [i=d4a06aa0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8951dca41654b181] has joined #agavi 10:11 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 10:19 < Flukey> PwPC = Poo :p 10:20 < ttj_> "Steve Jobs's reality distortion field is generated by Chuck Norris." <-- Well, there you have it, folks. 10:24 -!- MerlinDMC|away is now known as MerlinDMC 10:30 < E_mE> is there an alternative to KDESVN? 10:30 < E_mE> besides console 10:31 < Flukey> doesn't tortoise work on linux now? 10:32 < saracen_> I dont think so. I use esvn on linux, although it's not great =(. 10:32 < _cheerios> subclipse for eclipse 10:32 < MikeSeth_> use command line client, cowards 10:32 -!- MikeSeth_ is now known as MikeSeth 10:32 < Flukey> http://sourceforge.net/projects/esvn 10:33 < Flukey> Command-line ftw :P 10:33 < _cheerios> crazy caveman arriveth 10:33 < Flukey> Oh. You beat me to it saracen_ :) 10:33 < saracen_> :P 10:33 < MikeSeth> BE VEWY AFWAID 10:33 < Flukey> lol someone in the css irc channel said last night, 'YAML is JSON' heh 10:34 < saracen_> Cheezburger is JSON 10:38 < Flukey> "cheezburger" : { "is" : "JSON" } 10:38 < Flukey> :P 10:38 * Wombert puts on his german engineer hat 10:38 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #agavi [] 10:38 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 10:38 < Wombert> ZIS IS NOT KORREKT JSON 10:39 * Flukey slaps Wombert 10:39 < Flukey> :P 10:39 < digitarald> JSON is indeed a subpart of YAML ... YAML wiki sais that ... BUT I can't believe that 10:39 < fholmstrom> syntactially it is true 10:40 < fholmstrom> but JSON wasnt designed as a subset of YAML no 10:49 < fholmstrom> bbl, lunch 10:54 < Macen> anybody got any experience with on the fly language translation they want to share? 10:55 < Macen> i could hijack http://www.google.com/language_tools 10:55 < Macen> however i would like an api , any suggestions? 11:00 -!- Wombert_ [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-166-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 11:06 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-169-054.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:07 < Flukey> http://code.google.com/apis/ajaxlanguage/ 11:08 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #agavi [] 11:09 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 11:13 -!- shoan [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has joined #agavi 11:15 < marklar|omni> ohai 11:24 < Flukey> anyone know of a command in MySQL which creates the insert. i.e like what show create table tblName 11:24 < Flukey> so something like SHOW INSERT tblName 11:25 -!- Wombert_ is now known as Wombert 11:29 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-166-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 11:31 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 11:41 < saracen_> Jesus, I didnt realise a UPS would be this heavy 11:42 -!- LBO_ [i=d4a06aa0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8951dca41654b181] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 12:16 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:22 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 12:28 -!- MerlinDMC|away is now known as MerlinDMC 12:33 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 12:42 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@62.159.95.202] has quit [] 12:44 -!- shoan [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:47 < fholmstrom> i want an IPS 12:47 < fholmstrom> Interruptable Power Suply 12:49 -!- 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AgaviIValidatorContainer 13:26 < LBO_> wrong, must extend AgaviOperatorValidator 13:26 < digitarald> E_mE ... uses 500Mb Ram on github.com 13:28 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 13:28 < trophaeum> E_mE, workin well locally 13:29 < trophaeum> fholmstrom, oh dude, im completely opposite, once your used to it... :) 13:32 < E_mE> digitarald: 166mb here 13:33 < trophaeum> 400meg with about 20 tabs open and its been running for more than 24hrs, still lightning fast and lots of addons running 13:43 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 13:48 < fholmstrom> No honestly 13:48 < fholmstrom> HOW CAN they sell this PIECE OF SHIT 13:49 < fholmstrom> to customers 13:49 < fholmstrom> its a fucking outrage 13:49 < fholmstrom> that they CHARGE for this 13:49 * fholmstrom is owrkign on that fucking CMS again 13:52 < trophaeum> fholmstrom, u dont want to know what my old workplace called a cms before i started then lol 13:52 -!- LBO_ [i=d4a06aa0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f072299468451477] has 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E_mE gave him 14:18 < E_mE> fholmstrom: ive actually good a wooden axe at home i carved with a pocket knife a few years ago. though its a wooden spike instead of a nail ;) 14:18 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:18 < fholmstrom> ;> 14:45 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 14:46 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 14:47 < Flukey> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7445324.stm hahaha gutted 14:47 < Flukey> fools for buying! 14:47 < Flukey> \ 14:48 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:51 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 14:54 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:55 -!- Macen 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validator 15:28 < Wombert> to achieve the same thing 15:28 < _cheerios> problem with laptops is that the screens go dim in <2 years, and they're slow to begin with too :| 15:28 < E_mE> _cheerios: look into LED backlights 15:29 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:30 < digitarald> ok, or write your own and save space 15:36 -!- siksdkakd [n=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 15:53 -!- icyt is now known as IcyT 15:57 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [":: www.scopealley.com ::"] 15:59 * E_mE off home 15:59 < E_mE> byee 16:08 < Flukey> caio E_mE 16:19 -!- nfq [n=nfq@cust.static.62-152-212-19.swisscomdata.ch] has joined #agavi 16:19 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["I Quit!"] 16:29 -!- Arme[N] [n=Arme[N]@unaffiliated/armen/x-394205] has quit ["leaving"] 16:30 -!- Arme[N] [n=Arme[N]@unaffiliated/armen/x-394205] has 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and can u tell what "severity " is for? 18:34 < LBO_> i reed comments in base AgaviValidator class, but just dont understand 18:36 < v-dogg> "fatal" => abort validation (i.e. validation doesn't continue after a fatal error has occured), "error" => continue but mark the validation as failed 18:36 < v-dogg> um.. don't remember how "warning" and "notice" work exactly 18:37 < LBO_> so there are 4 predefinied constants? 18:37 < v-dogg> at least, possibly more 18:39 < LBO_> :) in that case Wombert should put some additional rules to validation.dtd 18:39 < LBO_> it would really nice to have code completion of that 18:39 < v-dogg> not sure how "constant" those really are 18:40 < Wombert> yes LBO_ you can do that 18:40 < Wombert> depends="foo bar baz" 18:40 < Wombert> space separated list, of course 18:40 * v-dogg stands corrected 18:40 < v-dogg> and learns 18:41 < v-dogg> what up Wombs 18:42 -!- LBO_ [i=53180af6@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-458466dd00f55ae2] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com 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Is it the same source like in routing? 18:44 < v-dogg> yup 18:45 * v-dogg hopes he gets at least this one right :) 18:45 < impl> hmhmhm 18:45 < impl> so much to do and not enough time in the day 18:46 < LBO_> where can I find source variables/constant? I would really like to know them :) 18:48 < v-dogg> AgaviRequestDataHolder 18:48 < Wombert> nope v-dogg :D 18:49 < Wombert> "parameters", "cookies", "files", "headers" 18:49 < Wombert> for web request 18:49 < Wombert> "parameters" is default 18:49 < LBO_> $parameters['source'] = AgaviRequestDataHolder::SOURCE_PARAMETERS; 18:49 < LBO_> found it! 18:50 < v-dogg> Agavi*Web*RequestDataHolder, duh :) 18:51 < Wombert> I meant its not the same as in the routing :) 18:51 < Wombert> routing source is stuff like "_SERVER[HTTP_HOST]" 18:51 * saracen pokes Wombert 18:51 < marklar|omni> ohai 18:51 < Wombert> hai saracen 18:51 < Wombert> just a heads up 18:51 < Wombert> you can wrap that string validator into a "not" validator 18:51 < Wombert> for your provides/depends problem you had the other day 18:52 < saracen> Ah, I see. Thank you =) 18:54 < LBO_> Wombert: so source can be "cookies", "files", "headers" i.e. if I use "headers" I can validate some specific header vaue - is that correct? 18:56 < LBO_> e.g. check if form is send by AJAX? 18:57 < Wombert> yes LBO_ 18:58 < LBO_> nicee 18:59 < v-dogg> though just that check is usually done in the routing part :) but there are other things you might want to validate from the headers 18:59 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 19:03 < LBO_> one last (i hope) thing: What is "base"? In comments it stands as "base path for validation of arrays", but it gives me no clue... 19:08 < v-dogg> foo 19:08 < LBO_> aaaa, so no more login[email], login[password] 19:09 < v-dogg> umm.. actually I'm not sure about that example (I don't have any example code here available) 19:09 < v-dogg> Wombert! :) 19:14 < v-dogg> should prolly go to bed. busy day tomorrow (making sure no-one shoots each others or themselves at the field exercise) 19:16 * Wombert pets v-dogg 19:17 < v-dogg> uuh yeah that's the spot right there 19:34 < Wombert> bai 19:34 < Wombert> dinner, finally :p 19:34 < Wombert> then hoem tiem 19:34 < Wombert> actually, work after that, too 19:34 < Wombert> meh meh 19:34 < Wombert> bai 19:34 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit ["bai"] 20:03 -!- Arme[0] [n=Arme[N]@unaffiliated/armen/x-394205] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:16 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@dslb-084-062-136-106.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 20:37 -!- IcyT [i=bnc@icysoft.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:38 -!- IcyT [i=bnc@icysoft.de] has joined #agavi 20:54 -!- shoan [n=shoan@216.26.225.163] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:02 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@dslb-084-062-136-106.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Leaving..."] 21:22 < _cheerios> http://dwoo.org/ << smarty for php5.2+ from pear2 projects 21:26 < _cheerios> http://dwoo.org/_coverage/ need more of these for php projects! 21:47 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 21:58 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-166-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 21:58 < _cheerios> anyone run into "General error: 2014 Cannot execute queries while other unbuffered queries are active. Consider using PDOStatement::fetchAll()." with phpunit? On their trac this was fixed in 3.1.x, I'm on 3.2.19? o_O 22:03 -!- IcyT is now known as icyt 22:04 -!- shoan [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 22:19 < _cheerios> fetching data that shouldn't have been retrieved was my mistake 22:22 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit ["sleep"] 22:49 -!- shoan_ [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has joined #agavi 22:57 -!- shoan [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:40 -!- LBO_ [i=531826f8@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-15a8faa67b95192c] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 23:47 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-166-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] --- Day changed Wed Jun 11 2008 00:01 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit ["Good night :)"] 00:18 -!- shoan_ [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:27 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:29 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 01:39 -!- jake [n=jake@cpe-65-29-93-211.indy.res.rr.com] has joined #agavi 01:40 < jake> Does anyone know if it's possible to modify the route from within a routing callback? 01:41 < jake> Or to populate some variables used for routing within the routing callback, and then fail the route test, so that a later route test will pass? 02:01 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:04 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 02:25 -!- sikkle [n=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 02:45 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 03:15 -!- shoan [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 04:33 -!- sikkle [n=sikkle@modemcable089.215-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 05:03 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 05:16 -!- Arme[N] [n=Arme[N]@unaffiliated/armen/x-394205] has joined #agavi 05:54 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:05 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-166-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 06:09 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #agavi 06:30 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 06:36 < _cheerios> huomenta 07:04 -!- Arme[N] [n=Arme[N]@unaffiliated/armen/x-394205] has quit ["leaving"] 07:04 < _cheerios> "MooTools 1.2, the new shiny version, is out now!" o_O 07:04 -!- Arme[N] [n=Arme[N]@unaffiliated/armen/x-394205] has joined #agavi 07:07 -!- Zeelot3k [i=WinNT@zeelot.fiu.edu] has quit ["-=SysReset 2.55=-"] 07:09 -!- Arme[N] [n=Arme[N]@unaffiliated/armen/x-394205] has quit [Client Quit] 07:09 -!- Arme[N] [n=Arme[N]@unaffiliated/armen/x-394205] has joined #agavi 07:13 < E_mE> huomenta 07:20 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-166-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 07:34 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 07:54 < _cheerios> quite cool http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/1075-bmws-fascinating-gina-light-visionary-model-design-study 08:08 < Rendez> morning 08:08 < Rendez> What do these lines in agavi.sh? 08:08 < Rendez> PWD_PATH=$(pwd) 08:08 < Rendez> CWD_NAME=$(basename $PWD_PATH) 08:12 < MerlinDMC> pwd gives the full path to the dirctory youre executed the script 08:12 < MerlinDMC> basename strips of the last part (name of actual directory) from that 08:13 < Rendez> so I should exe agavi from a dir I want the project 08:13 < Rendez> to be created 08:14 < MerlinDMC> from the guide: 08:14 < MerlinDMC> Once you have everything set up, create a new directory for your application and, in there, run 08:14 < MerlinDMC> agavi project 08:14 < MerlinDMC> (short answer: yes) 08:16 < Rendez> I respond to everything with "yes" 08:16 < Rendez> ? 08:17 < MerlinDMC> for a basic project to test things this works (for me actually it does) 08:17 < Rendez> I have to set "1" or "yes" sometimes 08:17 < Rendez> yeah, I wanna test 08:18 < MerlinDMC> I've used agavi for first time yesterday ;) 08:18 < marklar|omni> ohai 08:19 < Rendez> but it created folders called 1, yes inside /src 08:20 < MikeSeth> hay guise 08:21 < marklar|omni> sup maik 08:21 < MikeSeth> are sleepy 08:21 < marklar|omni> yeah 08:21 < marklar|omni> do you have a computer shop near yer office? 08:21 < MikeSeth> umm 08:21 < MikeSeth> not rly 08:21 < MikeSeth> why? 08:21 < marklar|omni> meh fale 08:21 < marklar|omni> I need a psu 08:21 < marklar|omni> but a non-generic one 08:21 < marklar|omni> like an antec or an enermax 08:21 < MikeSeth> uh 08:21 < MikeSeth> idk 08:21 < marklar|omni> fale 08:22 < MikeSeth> what like asus and stuff? 08:22 < marklar|omni> asus don't make psus afaik 08:22 < marklar|omni> sec 08:23 < marklar|omni> http://www.net-click.co.il/Product.asp?Pid=ELT400AWT&Cat2Cat1ID=17&Cat2ID=0&aff=Zap&lang=HE 08:23 < marklar|omni> http://www.zap.co.il/zapnewmodels.asp?Sog=c-powersupply&keyword=enermax%20liberty&orderby=price 08:24 < MikeSeth> well then 08:24 < MikeSeth> ORDER IT?! 08:24 < MikeSeth> kek 08:24 < MikeSeth> MerlinDMC: new here? 08:24 < MerlinDMC> MikeSeth, for some days now ... yes 08:24 < MikeSeth> MerlinDMC: oh, welcome to the conspiracy 08:24 < marklar|omni> MikeSeth: I need it tomorrow 08:25 < MerlinDMC> (two or three) 08:25 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: then find a store in jlem or something 08:25 < MikeSeth> ;< 08:26 < marklar|omni> meh fale 08:26 < marklar|omni> :((((( 08:26 < MikeSeth> no srsly i dont have anything other than office depot 08:26 < MikeSeth> and we're.. better than that. 08:26 < marklar|omni> lawlz cobrapc 08:26 < marklar|omni> http://www.cobrapc.co.il/Product.asp?productid=414 08:26 < marklar|omni> lawlez~ 08:27 < MikeSeth> "Liberty" 08:27 < MikeSeth> who in their right mind calls a god damn power supply "liberty" 08:27 < MikeSeth> LOL cable management system 08:27 < MikeSeth> aids 08:28 < marklar|omni> kek 08:28 < marklar|omni> it's a very good psu actually 08:29 < marklar|omni> I haz one 08:29 < marklar|omni> http://picasaweb.google.com/gmarklar/PC/photo#5080259424101709186 08:30 < MerlinDMC> is there any (mostly complete) tutorial for using doctrine ORM with agavi? (configuring database connections is not the problem ... more the creation of models and instantiating them ^^) 08:31 < marklar|omni> meh 08:31 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 08:31 < MikeSeth> MerlinDMC: actually I have a template package with pre-setup Doctrine install 08:32 < MikeSeth> http://mikeseth.com/agavi-doctrine-plugin.tgz 08:33 < MerlinDMC> I've used the normal download and configured the doctrine database connection ... but your's seems to be more complete ;) 08:34 < MerlinDMC> I'll try that today 08:34 < MerlinDMC> thx 08:36 < MikeSeth> :D 08:36 -!- Yossi [n=nospam@62.90.159.110] has joined #agavi 08:36 < Yossi> Huomenta 08:36 < Yossi> Hey you guys, do you know how i get the time stamp for the last day of the month? 08:40 < MerlinDMC> mktime() for month + 1 subtract one day from that? ... just an idea ^^ 08:46 < Yossi> yeah somthing like that might work, thanks 08:47 < Yossi> $lastday = mktime(0, 0, 0, $month+1, 0, $year) 09:10 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 09:15 < Yossi> Hey - does some hav 09:15 < Yossi> Hey - does anyone have some refrence about formating dates with agavi translation manager? 09:28 < Yossi> and btw, how do I get the locale that is currently set? 09:51 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@62.159.95.202] has joined #agavi 10:13 < E_mE> does anyone know a good site with progress wheels or some sort of "Please Wait animated icon"? 10:14 < MerlinDMC> http://www.ajaxload.info/ ? ^^ 10:14 < E_mE> ah thats wat i was looking for ages ago Thanks MerlinDMC :D 10:14 < MerlinDMC> np 10:31 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 10:34 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 10:39 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has joined #agavi 10:39 < Flukey> hello chaps 10:39 < Flukey> hello chaps. in a sql query what would be the easiest way to return a blurb? i.e. i have a load of text and i only want like 40words back.... 10:39 < E_mE> is the best way to see if a request arrived from an ajax request is to check: X-Requested-With XMLHttpRequest 10:43 -!- MerlinDMC|away is now known as MerlinDMC 10:44 < MerlinDMC> E_mE, mostly every framework I've tested does this ... so I think this should be the easiest way 10:46 < E_mE> :) cool 10:48 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 10:51 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 11:01 -!- shoan_ [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 11:02 < MikeSeth> E_mE: I just define a route for that 11:03 < MikeSeth> 11:10 -!- shoan__ [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has joined #agavi 11:14 -!- shoan___ [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 11:14 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has joined #agavi 11:15 -!- shoan [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:16 -!- shoan_ [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:24 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@62.159.95.202] has quit [] 11:31 -!- shoan__ [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 11:37 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@56.Red-83-55-31.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 11:41 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [":: www.scopealley.com ::"] 11:44 < E_mE> thanks MikeSeth 11:59 -!- shrink0r [i=shrink_s@i577B6943.versanet.de] has joined #agavi 11:59 < E_mE> marklar|omni: how much did you all the parts to your new machine cost you? 12:00 < shrink0r> huomenta 12:12 -!- shoan [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 12:17 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 12:23 -!- shoan___ [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:24 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 12:31 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 12:42 < marklar|omni> E_mE: er, the machine in that album is from last year 12:42 < marklar|omni> it cost around $1k usd back then 12:43 < marklar|omni> I replaced the 6420 with an e8500 12:45 < MerlinDMC> that's cheap ... perhaps I should by my parts in the US next time ... If shipping to germany is not that expensive ;) 12:46 < E_mE> £500 :o 12:46 < E_mE> wow 12:46 -!- shoan [n=shoan@static-71-98-251-103.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:46 < E_mE> fecking hell TFT monitors are cheap now 12:46 < E_mE> £160 for a 22" TFT 12:46 < saracen> They're not cheap for decent ones =( 12:47 < saracen> Like, PVA/IPS screens 12:48 -!- jake [n=jake@cpe-65-29-93-211.indy.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:48 -!- jake [n=jake@cpe-65-29-93-211.indy.res.rr.com] has joined #agavi 13:01 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 13:03 -!- MerlinDMC|away is now known as MerlinDMC 13:16 < nfq> E_mE: hey mate 13:16 < E_mE> yoyo nfq 13:18 < Flukey> nooooooooooooooooooo. i've got glasses now :( only for VDU, reading and driving though :P 13:21 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 13:32 -!- shoan [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has joined #agavi 13:41 -!- shoan [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has quit [] 13:52 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 13:57 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 13:58 < MrJeep> Wombert: did you see the new iphone 3g ??? 13:58 < MrJeep> i bet you did 13:58 < MikeSeth> THIS CHANNEL IS IPHONE FREE 13:59 < MrJeep> free as speech or free as beer ? 14:00 < MikeSeth> free as in "this channel is free of it" 14:00 < MikeSeth> lol 14:00 < MrJeep> heheh i know i was fooling around 14:00 < MrJeep> oh mike, what about your cms code ? 14:00 < MrJeep> done yet ? 14:00 < MikeSeth> almost! 14:00 < MrJeep> :-) 14:01 < MikeSeth> its progressing slow cuz im otherwise busy ;< 14:01 < digitarald> when it'll go public? after 1.'¿ 14:01 < MikeSeth> dunno I hope asap :> 14:02 < digitarald> will u move it to git, so I can fork it? ;) 14:03 < MikeSeth> i dont have git set up 14:03 < MikeSeth> and the main repo is svn 14:03 < MikeSeth> but I could 14:03 < MrJeep> Does the word "highlight" has an antonym ? other that unhighlight ? 14:03 < MikeSeth> MrJeep: dim 14:03 < MikeSeth> "the light was dimmed" 14:03 < MrJeep> oh thanks 14:03 < digitarald> blur? 14:04 < digitarald> I saw "remove highlight" 14:04 < digitarald> "highlight" like "to mark sth"? 14:05 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 14:06 < Macen> MrJeep: dulled 14:06 < Macen> MrJeep: shaded 14:06 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has quit ["TIME TO ROLL"] 14:06 < MrJeep> :D 14:06 < MikeSeth> digitarald: blur is distortion 14:06 < MrJeep> thnx again 14:07 < MikeSeth> shaded is also good 14:07 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 14:07 < Macen> will somebody make me a brew? i take one sugar 14:10 < Macen> i'll make my own then 14:10 < Macen> lazy fucks 14:10 < Macen> :x 14:14 < E_mE> does getParameters() return keys in the array? 14:15 < E_mE> which corresponds to the field names? 14:15 < MikeSeth> E_mE: duh 14:15 < E_mE> just needed to make sure :) 14:15 * E_mE pets MikeSeth with catnip 14:23 < Flukey> http://moomonth.com/demo/index.html 14:23 -!- MerlinDMC|away is now known as MerlinDMC 14:23 < Flukey> know of any more calendars like that? 14:23 < digitarald> Moo! 14:23 < nfq> digitarald: boo 14:24 -!- shoan [n=shoan@74.223.127.194.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #agavi 14:24 < saracen> I'm confused 14:24 < saracen> http://uk2.php.net/is_float 14:24 < saracen> Shouldnt the uk2 indicate it should be in english? 14:25 -!- shoan [n=shoan@74.223.127.194.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:25 < Flukey> it is in english :S 14:25 -!- shoan [n=shoan@74.223.127.194.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #agavi 14:25 < saracen> I'm getting german ;x 14:26 < saracen> I just cleared cookies and everything 14:26 < saracen> its still german ;x 14:26 < Flukey> :S 14:26 < saracen> Do they do geoIP or something and think im a german? =( 14:26 < Flukey> http://de.php.net/is_float 14:26 < Flukey> thats still english 14:26 < Flukey> http://fr.php.net/is_float 14:26 < Flukey> so's that. heh 14:26 < saracen> Theyre all german to me 14:26 < saracen> lol ;x 14:27 < saracen> whats going on =( 14:27 < digitarald> they take over php.net only because they won one euro2008 game 14:29 < saracen> Its just the documentation pages =( 14:29 < MerlinDMC> they have set two cookies for country and language preference set 14:29 < MerlinDMC> big black magic -.- 14:30 < saracen> Country: GBR%2C91.84.44.213 14:30 < saracen> Last_Lang: de 14:30 < saracen> Even when i remove the cookie and refresh, its there 14:31 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 14:31 < MerlinDMC> told your browser to not send your language preference? 14:31 < _cheerios> fracking rain. soaked. 14:31 < saracen> Oh, i didnt even see this "view your page in". It was already on english, so I selected english again 14:31 < saracen> now its displaying english 14:31 < MerlinDMC> most of them do send the language within the identification string 14:33 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 14:33 < Flukey> http://code.google.com/apis/chart/ cooooooool 14:35 < Macen> http://www.aditus.nu/jpgraph/ 14:35 < liutis> yep yep 14:35 < Flukey> i dont like jpgraph :P 14:36 < Flukey> they don't look 'web 2.0' enough :P 14:36 * Macen fluffles web 2.0 14:36 < liutis> google rools everythere 14:36 < Macen> google is like the anti-christ to microsoft lol 14:36 < Flukey> i'm still deciding which css framework to use 14:36 < Flukey> i'm tempted to just go all out YUI 14:36 < Flukey> and use the YUI JS library and CSS library 14:36 < Macen> css frameworks............... 14:36 < digitarald> I use blueprint 14:36 < Flukey> yeah. i like css frameworks alot 14:37 < Flukey> BluePrint easy to learn? 14:37 < digitarald> very easy 14:37 < digitarald> YUI is rocket science ;) 14:37 < Flukey> and for a js library? 14:37 < Macen> mootools obviously 14:37 < Flukey> ok. blueprint and mootools have swung it for me :P 14:37 < Macen> and ext for backend :p 14:37 < Flukey> i'm easily persuaded 14:37 < Flukey> extjs? 14:37 < Macen> yea 14:38 < Flukey> as in for admin etc.? 14:38 < Macen> it rocks for back end development 14:38 < Macen> yes 14:38 < Macen> the grids are win 14:38 < Macen> easily adds sort by column and filtering functionality 14:38 < Macen> really makes your apps special 14:39 < Macen> mootools + extjs are compatible, too 14:39 < Flukey> I would agree with that, however, i'd end up spending more time with the backend than the frontend 14:39 < Flukey> purely because certain things in extjs take ages 14:39 < Macen> i've just created 8 user interfaces and an admin layout in less than 8 days 14:40 < Macen> just hack the code into php funcs and pass it the common vars 14:40 < Macen> then there is no head scratching when you come to do the same thing twice :) 14:40 < Macen> but yeh, you will love mootools 14:42 -!- EoN [n=EoN@c211-30-128-119.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #agavi 14:42 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has quit [] 14:44 < digitarald> +1 for mootools ;) 14:54 -!- shoan_ [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has joined #agavi 14:57 < E_mE> how can i disable the FPF in a particualr action? 14:58 < E_mE> well infact on a particlar view i need it to not be run 14:59 < Yossi> mootools over jquery? 15:00 < digitarald> Yossi: whats jquery? 15:00 * digitarald trolls 15:01 < digitarald> Yossi, I never heard good arguments, why I should use jQuery ... thats why I use MooTools even for everything and the kitchen sink :) 15:02 < Yossi> Oh ok, I just never heard any arguments for one over the other... I used both a bit, more jquery and I think they are very similer 15:04 < MikeSeth> jquery is generic 15:05 -!- Greg_ [n=Greg@ool-18b9b367.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #agavi 15:06 < digitarald> method name like attr|is|lt|not|val are too generic for me ... some more characters in the name would be useful 15:06 < E_mE> MikeSeth: how can i disable filters (fpf) in my view? 15:07 < E_mE> just remove it from the array of filters? 15:07 < MikeSeth> E_mE: why disable it? 15:07 < MikeSeth> E_mE: if you need to explicitly disable it may you shouldnt have enabled it in first place 15:07 < E_mE> because im dealing with a shit html layout 15:07 < E_mE> im using agavi as a backend plugin to the site 15:07 < E_mE> when is worse then a nightmare 15:07 < E_mE> i need to be able to disable thje FPF in this isntance 15:08 < digitarald> or fail silently 15:09 < E_mE> well its a legacy site which we are in the processes of re-writing 15:09 < E_mE> check it out and you will see what i mean, www.specgasreport.com 15:09 < Greg_> hey y'all 15:11 -!- shoan [n=shoan@74.223.127.194.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:19 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 15:41 < E_mE> does anyone have any notes on disabling filters at run time??? 15:41 < E_mE> or function callls i use 15:54 < Macen> omfg 15:54 < Macen> that site is massive fail 15:54 * Wombert blinks 15:55 < Wombert> looks liek a hoa to me :> 15:55 < Wombert> hi Greg_ ! 16:00 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [] 16:08 < MikeSeth> ohai Wombart sir 16:09 -!- Yossi [n=nospam@62.90.159.110] has quit [] 16:12 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 16:14 < E_mE> Macen: Wombert: Don't worry our new one goes live end of augest, that site is really really horrid! 16:15 < E_mE> the guy who wrote it was like, "it took me 10 years to get the sourcing guide setup, i dont see how you guys are gonna manage it any quicker.." i managed to rip off the sourcing guide in one day ;) 16:15 < E_mE> even with highly unstructured and fucked HTML 16:15 < Macen> When i saw it a little bit of sick crept up my throat 16:15 < Macen> best of luck :p 16:16 < E_mE> well we are taking that site over 16:16 < E_mE> that one you see is being ditched 16:16 < Macen> well yeh :) 16:16 < Macen> if that's what they're used too then you're in for some wicked pay rises ;) 16:16 < E_mE> we asked for FTP information but he kept sending the wrong details 16:17 < Macen> LOL 16:17 < E_mE> gave us server addresses which where incorrect 16:17 < E_mE> so i've had to wget the site 16:17 < Macen> trying to protect his precious code :p 16:17 < E_mE> his frontpaging 16:20 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 16:26 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 16:29 < Flukey> E_mE: haha. Best. Site. Ever. 16:29 < marklar|omni> ohai 16:29 < E_mE> Flukey: you should see the magazine.. 16:29 < E_mE> baaaaaaaiiiiiii 16:29 < marklar|omni> where you going 16:29 < marklar|omni> *stab* 16:30 < marklar|omni> MikeSeth: still here? 16:30 < MikeSeth> ya 16:30 < marklar|omni> got a psu 16:30 < MikeSeth> waiting for joe to pick me up 16:30 < MikeSeth> shiny 16:30 < marklar|omni> got to the store like 10mins b4 teh close 16:31 < marklar|omni> thermaltake tr2 rx 500w 16:31 < marklar|omni> should suffice and it's not a generic pos 16:31 < marklar|omni> so it's good 16:31 < marklar|omni> zomg we had an epic fale at work today 16:31 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:31 < Flukey> E_mE: I should, eh? :P Don't keep me hanging! :P 16:31 < marklar|omni> I'll tell you when you get home 16:34 < MikeSeth> Wombert: I have people banging on my door asking for a CMS 16:35 < marklar|omni> liez, your door is always open~ 16:35 < marklar|omni> :< 16:36 < MikeSeth> buki knocked the last tiem! :> 16:36 < marklar|omni> haha 16:36 < Flukey> MikeSeth: you have your own office? 16:36 * Flukey is jealous 16:36 < MikeSeth> Flukey: no, at home 16:36 * Flukey feels appeased 16:36 < marklar|omni> hehe 16:37 < marklar|omni> offices suck 16:37 < marklar|omni> ones you can't smoke in, anyway 16:37 < Flukey> Yeah but subsidised canteens rock 16:37 < Flukey> but i'd prefer to work ath ome 16:37 < Flukey> meh 16:39 < marklar|omni> the only downside of working at home is that sometimes, you just don't want to do anything 16:39 < marklar|omni> and since you're at home already, well... 16:39 < marklar|omni> hehe 16:39 < Flukey> yeah. you have to get over the old *ahem* stage heh 16:39 < marklar|omni> heh yea 16:40 < Flukey> I like the sociable side of an office tbh, however, i wouldn't mind working at home 2or 3 times a week and working in the office 2days a week 16:40 < Flukey> that'd be ideal 16:40 < marklar|omni> well 16:40 < marklar|omni> I drive 75km every day, in each direction 16:40 < marklar|omni> to the office and back 16:40 < marklar|omni> :[ 16:40 < Flukey> wha?!?! FAIL 16:40 < Flukey> heh 16:40 < Flukey> why? 16:40 < marklar|omni> work pays for it 16:40 < marklar|omni> so eh 16:40 < Flukey> but still. ouch. 16:41 < MikeSeth> pays for it? 16:41 < MikeSeth> they GAVE YOU A FUCKING MAZDA 16:41 < MikeSeth> don't jew it down 16:41 < Flukey> I walk 10mins to work everyday. Work doesn't pay for my carbon footprint :( :P 16:41 * Macen has an appointment at the smoking clinic on friday :o 16:41 < Macen> i plan to quit tbh 16:41 < Macen> it's shit 16:42 < marklar|omni> nissan 16:42 < MikeSeth> well 16:42 < marklar|omni> plz, 16:42 < marklar|omni> :P 16:42 < MikeSeth> I wish I wanted to quit lol 16:42 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: olol 16:43 < Macen> my gran's cough scares me heh 16:43 < Macen> she sounds like he lungs may explode at any moment 16:43 < Macen> her* 16:43 < Macen> and you can hear the phlegm build up as she chokes 16:43 < Macen> disgusting 16:44 < Macen> plus there is no guarentee i'll be able to get the cure on the nhs (free med care) when they invent it, because they virtually banned smoking everywhere so there is no excuse no more 16:44 < Macen> faggots 16:44 < Macen> plus 16:44 < Macen> it's expensive 16:45 < Macen> all logic for smoking is now gone heh 16:46 < Flukey> makes you look cool (H) 16:46 < Flukey> ofc. 16:46 < Macen> nobody smokes anymore cause they banned it 16:46 < Flukey> lol in the uk there is a new thing called 'smirting' 16:46 < Macen> it's just the last few hardcores 16:46 < Flukey> apparently more people have pulled outside by asking for lighters then inside a pub 16:46 < Flukey> :P 16:46 < Flukey> hell, it's worked for me! And i don't even smoke :P 16:47 < Macen> i may take a week off to get it out my system 16:47 < Macen> i do smoke quite a bit 16:48 < Macen> anyways, home time 16:48 < Macen> baiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 16:48 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 16:48 < Flukey> baiiiii 16:53 < Flukey> night chaps 16:56 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has quit [] 16:59 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 17:01 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [Client Quit] 17:01 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 17:01 < Whisller> hi 17:04 < marklar|omni> hai 17:04 < marklar|omni> can anyone recommend an all-in-one printer/fax/scanner? 17:05 < MikeSeth> post office? 17:05 < marklar|omni> er 17:05 < marklar|omni> hehe 17:05 < marklar|omni> for my mom 17:05 < marklar|omni> she regularly needs to scan and fax stuf 17:05 < marklar|omni> post office lo mishtalem 17:10 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 17:18 -!- sikkle [n=sikk@bas4-montreal02-1096703933.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #agavi 17:21 < marklar|omni> er, wtf, getfirebug.com down? 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20:15 < Whisller> ServerName is in first example.com in sencod sub.example.com 20:16 < Whisller> ahh 20:16 < Whisller> I didn't add host to /etc/hosts ;p heh :) 20:16 < Whisller> ok works good :) 20:50 -!- Whisller_ [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 21:06 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:06 -!- shrink0r [i=shrink_s@i577B6943.versanet.de] has quit [] 21:07 -!- Whisller_ [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [] 21:16 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@e178145189.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #agavi 21:23 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@e178145189.adsl.alicedsl.de] has left #agavi [] 22:09 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-190-220.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 22:19 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 22:23 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 22:31 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 22:33 -!- trophaeum [n=trophaeu@59.167.212.13] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:42 -!- trophaeum [n=trophaeu@59.167.212.13] has joined #agavi 22:51 < _cheerios> what's the correct place for enable_caching=false? 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I think i might just change my career path from IT! I'd quite happily drive for that money. 08:35 < Flukey> At the end of the day, it's a low skilled job, how much are they expecting to be paid? Just another fine example of how new Labour has forced communism down our throats. Everyone expects to be paid equally, whether it's a low or high skilled job. 08:35 < Flukey> Absolutely ridiculous. If only the IT industry had Unions... 08:35 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 08:35 < Flukey> :P 08:35 < Flukey> [/end of morning rant] 08:51 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [" E_mE: logarithms aren't hard, they're just inverse exponents"] 08:52 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 08:59 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [":: www.scopealley.com ::"] 09:22 < MikeSeth> om nom nom 09:23 < E_mE> Flukey: im sure there are unions you can join... 09:24 < Flukey> E_mE: Havent come across any.... 09:24 < E_mE> £39k to drive lorries jesus 09:24 < MikeSeth> lorries! I haven't heard that word since high school 09:24 < E_mE> MikeSeth: its an english word 09:25 < E_mE> not truck which is american 09:25 < E_mE> but then they do pretty boring jobs, driving for upto 13 hours streight 09:25 < MikeSeth> yes, I know :> 09:25 < E_mE> :) 09:25 < MikeSeth> they were teaching us british English in the school 09:25 < saracen> yellow lorry. 09:26 < E_mE> red lorry 09:26 < saracen> Still can't do it 09:26 < MikeSeth> yellow/red = uk joke? 09:26 < saracen> Years of schooling, wasted! 09:26 < MerlinDMC> driving ... and have a notebook with you seems to be nice ;) 09:26 < saracen> MikeSeth: It's a tongue twister thing 09:26 < E_mE> MikeSeth: try saying it repeatidly fast as you can 09:26 < E_mE> out loud though 09:26 < MerlinDMC> and with £39k a umts card is not that expensive :P 09:26 < saracen> "red lorry yellow lorry red lorry yellow lorry" etc. 09:26 < MikeSeth> they'll confine me if I dooo 09:27 < MikeSeth> ok bb work 09:30 < Flukey> I always thought it 'red lolly yellow lolly' :$ 09:34 -!- MugeSo [n=Tanaka_K@220x218x27x242.ap220.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]"] 09:34 < marklar|omni> red lorry, yellow lorry, stab die 09:38 < MikeSeth> yellow loli = azn 09:44 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 10:01 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 10:03 < _cheerios> added a sessionstorage class for my orm. it's that advanced that it can do complex things like that already :) soon it'll replace doctrine in meh project entirely! hiRr 10:13 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 10:15 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 10:16 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 10:18 -!- MerlinDMC|away is now known as MerlinDMC 10:27 < MerlinDMC> _cheerios, is your orm frmework public ... and also how feature complete is it? 10:28 < _cheerios> aim is public, but it needs a lot of design love still -- functionality/feature-wise it's quite good 10:29 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 10:29 < MerlinDMC> _cheerios, where can I find it online? 10:30 < _cheerios> nowhere. i won't put it out until it's passed the smell/WTF test from people on this channel, when I hand it out for people to test 10:30 < MerlinDMC> kk 10:48 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:48 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 10:58 < E_mE> is there a command in linux which returns to me what memory module types the mother board uses? 11:07 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 11:17 < _cheerios> /open-box-and-look 11:17 < _cheerios> /look-in-bios 11:17 < _cheerios> those two usually work 11:21 < MerlinDMC> forgot the "read the manual" part ... 11:26 < marklar|omni> kek 11:26 < marklar|omni> E_mE: lshw 11:27 -!- lucifer4u [i=HydraIRC@87.252.235.129] has joined #agavi 11:34 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit ["bai"] 11:35 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 11:35 < E_mE> marklar|omni: thanx 11:40 < marklar|omni> np enjoy :< 12:12 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 12:19 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 12:20 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 12:21 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit ["bai"] 12:24 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 12:24 < Wombert> re 12:25 < Macen> wb 12:28 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 12:28 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@62.159.95.202] has quit [] 12:35 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [" E_mE: logarithms aren't hard, they're just inverse exponents"] 12:35 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 12:36 -!- saracen_ [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 12:37 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 12:38 < MikeSeth> Wombert: anything new w/traits? 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(login/logout methods with session creation/destruction but also testing for authorization to use actions and redirection to login page) 14:38 < fholmstrom> anyone here good at flash? 14:38 < fholmstrom> i suck at flash 14:38 < fholmstrom> need help with a simple thing 14:38 < fholmstrom> on (release) { 14:38 < fholmstrom> getURL (_root.clickTag, "_blank"); 14:38 < fholmstrom> } 14:38 < fholmstrom> is that AS2 or AS3 ? 14:38 < MerlinDMC> I just want to see those things in some frameworks to choose one that uites my needs best 14:39 < Rick> MerlinDMC: there isn't a tutorial per se but the demo app for agavi shows how to do login 14:39 < MerlinDMC> fholmstrom, seems to be nothin AS3 special ... should compile as AS2 well 14:39 < fholmstrom> ok and I just paste that in the actions tab of a button to get it to execute on release? 14:39 < MerlinDMC> Rick, seems that I've missed that ... I'll look at this 14:40 < MerlinDMC> fholmstrom, yes ... my flash days are more than 2 years ago ;) but this should work. 14:41 < Rick> MerlinDMC: no worries, I missed it too 14:41 < Rick> :p 14:42 < fholmstrom> ok so I just paste it in the action-code-window of my button MerlinDMC ? 14:43 < MerlinDMC> fholmstrom, yes 14:43 < fholmstrom> ok thnx 14:47 < MerlinDMC> hmm ... any1 an idea how to lock a windows desktop without using a mouse on an IBM Laptop? (no windows key) 14:47 < Rick> ctrl+alt+del 14:47 < Rick> k 14:47 < Rick> or if your ctrl+alt+del opens a task mgr it has it in there too I think 14:47 < Rick> maybe 14:48 < Rick> wait why don't you just use the start menu? 14:48 < MerlinDMC> hmm ... thought of using ctrl + esc for menü popup nd navigating with cursor keys ... but I'm lazy ^^ 14:49 < Rick> ? 14:49 < Rick> that's like 3 keystrokes 14:49 < MerlinDMC> hmm ... yes ... but if you use that 10 to 20 times a hour ... it sucks ;) 14:50 < Rick> ? 14:51 < Rick> eh 14:51 < Rick> get a decent keyboard? 14:51 < Rick> :P 14:51 < Rick> even my cheapass ps/2 keyboard has a windows key 15:01 < Macen> or don't use windows 15:03 < MerlinDMC> Macen, I've got my MacBook here but the company I'm working for is using Microsoft Outlook with Exchange for todo planning ect. 15:03 < MerlinDMC> and Mail.app doesn't work that nice with Outlook stuff :( 15:04 < Macen> i don't know what you're doing but you can get outlook etc on mac 15:05 < MerlinDMC> yes ... but Entourage does not work with that Windows outlook features well too ... 15:05 < Macen> ya 15:05 < MerlinDMC> and also I don't want that Office stuff on my Mac :P 15:05 < Macen> then use vmware :) 15:09 * Wombert pets fusion 15:14 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 15:20 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 15:26 -!- fill88 [n=Felix_We@ip-88-207-239-188.dyn.luxdsl.pt.lu] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:39 -!- icyt is now known as IcyT 15:39 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 15:41 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@158.Red-79-153-13.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["I'll come back ... digitarald.de"] 15:57 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 16:19 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["Leaving..."] 16:29 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 16:37 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.139.62.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #agavi 16:46 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 16:56 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 16:56 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 16:59 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has left #agavi [] 17:44 < _cheerios> Wombert, you watching the german chaps play footie? 17:53 < Wombert> I watched them lose, yes 18:06 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 18:06 < Whisller> hi 18:13 < _cheerios> "A spokesman for China's foreign ministry says that — China being the 'developing nation' that it is — he doubts that his country has the sophistication to hack foreign systems. This in response to statements by two congressmen regarding apparent probing by China-based crackers into congressional systems for information about communication between US officials and activists in China." :D 18:17 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 18:44 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [] 18:51 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@dslb-084-062-184-019.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 18:51 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@dslb-084-062-184-019.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:25 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:56 -!- shoan_ [n=shoan@74.223.127.194.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #agavi 20:13 -!- shoan [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:25 -!- shoan [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has joined #agavi 20:33 -!- shoan_ [n=shoan@74.223.127.194.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:43 -!- shoan [n=shoan@evey.shoan.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:52 -!- digitarald is now known as another-guy 20:56 -!- another-guy is now known as digitarald 20:58 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit [] 21:04 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.139.62.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit ["... is gone ... www.digitarald.de ... but he is coming back!"] 21:17 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 21:20 < marklar|omni> hai * 21:39 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-213-047.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 21:51 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-213-047.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 22:02 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit ["sleep"] 22:24 -!- EoN [n=EoN@c211-30-128-119.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [] 22:24 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 22:39 -!- IcyT is now known as icyt --- Day changed Fri Jun 13 2008 00:22 -!- lucifer4u [n=kirill@87.252.235.129] has quit ["leaving"] 00:39 -!- MugeSo [n=Tanaka_K@220x218x27x242.ap220.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #agavi 00:39 < MugeSo> huomenta! 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:D 08:31 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit ["bai"] 08:42 -!- saracen_ [n=saracen@89.243.4.239] has joined #agavi 09:03 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 09:08 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-43-230.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #agavi 09:14 -!- lucifer4u [i=HydraIRC@87.252.235.129] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:22 -!- MugeSo [n=Tanaka_K@220x218x27x242.ap220.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #agavi 09:22 < MugeSo> huomenta 09:28 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has joined #agavi 09:28 < Flukey> Huomenta 09:28 < MugeSo> huomenta 09:30 < saracen_> Huomenta (first time said!) 09:31 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 09:31 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 09:32 -!- MugeSo [n=Tanaka_K@220x218x27x242.ap220.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]"] 09:38 -!- rick111_afk [n=BigRyan@ryanpartington.com] has quit ["laters"] 09:43 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@28.Red-83-55-70.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 09:43 < digitarald> Hurray, iPhone 3G ... http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/2b6dc10edf 09:50 -!- rick111 [n=BigRyan@ryanpartington.com] has joined #Agavi 09:51 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 09:52 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 09:53 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 09:56 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 10:15 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 10:15 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@obc-r22-325-217-66-62-6.exozet.com] has joined #agavi 10:42 < Flukey> How does one go about clearing the agavi cache? 10:44 < Macen> delete the files from app/cache 10:44 < Macen> rm -rf app/cache/* 10:44 < Flukey> haha oh 10:44 < Flukey> as simple as that :P 10:44 < Flukey> thanks 10:44 < Macen> np 10:45 < saracen_> Or if its on windows. Install linux, then rm -rf app/cache/* 10:46 < saracen_> :D 10:46 < Macen> what's windows? 10:46 < Macen> :p 10:47 < Flukey> uname - a 10:47 < Flukey> Linux web1.venturenavigator.co.uk 2.6.9-55.ELsmp #1 SMP Fri Apr 20 17:03:35 EDT 2007 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux 10:47 < Flukey> ;) 10:50 < _cheerios> what year is that kernel from? :p 10:52 < Flukey> 2.6.9-55.ELsmp #1 SMP Fri Apr 20 17:03:35 EDT 2007 :P 10:55 < MerlinDMC> never change a running system ;) 10:56 < saracen_> Especially if it's running Gentoo 11:05 < _cheerios> 2.6.9 came out in like 2004. seems that one is "somewhat" patched :) 11:06 < MikeSeth> hay guis 11:17 < Flukey> anyone know of any good web application where i can document things, such as setting up an email account, changing passwords, etc.? 11:17 < Flukey> Apart from MediaWiki 11:17 < Flukey> Hey Mike, all well? 11:22 < MikeSeth> Flukey: mediawiki is a pain but its probably the most stable codebase out there 11:22 < Macen> wombert mentioned a good customer management tool a couple weeks back 11:22 < Macen> will be in logs 11:22 < Macen> used by amazon iirc 11:22 < MikeSeth> jira? 11:22 < Macen> really not sure 11:22 < MikeSeth> it's excellent but non free 11:22 < MikeSeth> and written in java 11:23 < Macen> womberts was free, php+mysql based 11:23 < Macen> not exactly pretty however 11:23 < Macen> more functional 11:24 < Macen> customer management software rather than documentation tbh 11:24 < Macen> but would fit the bill still 11:24 < Macen> i plan to develop my own as soon as i get some money back in 11:25 < Macen> first full on agavi proj. 11:29 < Flukey> oooooo Macen. Sounds like a nice idea 11:29 < Flukey> i would like a funky wiki 11:29 < Flukey> for example a wiki which implements extjs 11:29 < Flukey> that'd be cool 11:29 < Flukey> only for internal use, mind you. 11:29 < Macen> ya 11:30 < Macen> i just don't have time for patience :) 11:30 < Macen> so best i wait 11:37 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 11:39 -!- MerlinDMC|away is now known as MerlinDMC 12:18 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 12:20 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 12:22 -!- MerlinDMC|away is now known as MerlinDMC 12:55 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@28.Red-83-55-70.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:57 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@obc-r22-325-217-66-62-6.exozet.com] has quit [] 12:57 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@obc-r22-325-217-66-62-6.exozet.com] has joined #agavi 12:58 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 13:04 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 13:04 -!- saracen_ [n=saracen@89.243.4.239] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:27 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 13:30 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 14:02 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 14:02 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 14:08 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-180.customer.academica.fi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:09 < E_mE> i recommend everyone have lunch time BBQ's at work ;) 14:11 -!- MerlinDMC|away is now known as MerlinDMC 14:14 < Flukey> lol http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/food_and_drink/article4124211.ece that article is sooooooo british 14:14 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.139.62.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #agavi 14:15 < Macen> Related Links 14:15 < Macen> * Why loose tea is better than the teabag 14:15 < Macen> * The perfect cup of tea 14:15 < Macen> lol 14:15 < Macen> heh 14:32 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 14:32 < _cheerios> mooo 14:33 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 14:33 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 14:35 < rick111> mike 14:35 < rick111> MikeSeth 14:42 < Macen> i'm off, long day :> 14:42 < Macen> baiii 14:42 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 14:46 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:47 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 14:54 < _cheerios> friday \o/ off from work, time to start working! 15:02 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 15:02 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 15:09 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 15:35 < MikeSeth> rick111: sup 15:35 -!- stachu [i=sayonara@enc170.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:42 < rick111> like my new banner? http://ryanpartington.com/ 15:43 < MikeSeth> what the eyes thing? 15:53 < rick111> yeah 15:58 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 15:58 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 15:59 < MikeSeth> is nice 15:59 < MikeSeth> i'd tone it down a bit towards greyscale 15:59 < MikeSeth> ;> 15:59 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 16:00 < rick111> humm interesting, cheers 16:03 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 16:03 < rick111> cheers guys 16:03 -!- icyt is now known as IcyT 16:04 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 16:05 < Flukey> night guys 16:06 < Flukey> hehe i love at the end of your posts you have 'Cheers, Ryan Partington' :P 16:07 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has quit [] 16:25 < marklar|omni> ohai 16:37 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@obc-r22-325-217-66-62-6.exozet.com] has quit [] 16:49 < E_mE> bbyeee 17:21 < E_mE[Stilgar]> new memooorrryyyy :D 17:21 < E_mE[Stilgar]> faster computer :D 17:22 -!- E_mE[Stilgar] [n=jeramy@bb-195-172-54-217.ukonline.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:22 -!- lucifer4u [i=HydraIRC@87.252.235.129] has joined #agavi 17:27 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.139.62.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit ["... is gone ... www.digitarald.de ... but he is coming back!"] 17:54 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 17:56 -!- E_mE[Stilgar] [n=jeramy@bb-195-172-54-217.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #agavi 17:57 < E_mE[Stilgar]> at last my computer runs a resonible speed :D 17:58 < CIA-55> david * r2519 /branches/0.11/src/filter/AgaviFormPopulationFilter.class.php: code and comments cleanup 18:02 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 18:02 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 18:07 < marklar|omni> heh 18:08 < marklar|omni> E_mE[Stilgar]: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=373150 18:08 < marklar|omni> new cpu :D 18:23 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 18:23 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 18:29 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 18:39 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 18:49 -!- Arme[0] [n=Arme[N]@unaffiliated/armen/x-394205] has quit ["leaving"] 19:00 < _cheerios> o_O 19:06 < E_mE[Stilgar]> very nice marklar|omni 19:06 -!- Arme[N] [n=Arme[N]@unaffiliated/armen/x-394205] has joined #agavi 19:07 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 19:09 < E_mE[Stilgar]> marklar|omni: how much did the CPU set you back? 19:43 < marklar|omni> 1200 NIS, around $400 19:45 < E_mE[Stilgar]> hope its worth it marklar|omni :) 19:46 < marklar|omni> it is 19:46 < marklar|omni> this is the last upgrade for this box before it's replaced in 20010 19:46 < marklar|omni> 2010 even 19:51 < E_mE[Stilgar]> thats quite well prepared, im planning on getting a new machine in the near future 19:51 < E_mE[Stilgar]> when i upgraded the memory of this one earlier, it took about 15-20 attempts to boot up 19:51 * E_mE[Stilgar] slaps computer! 19:52 < marklar|omni> er 19:52 < marklar|omni> perhaps your bios fucked up the voltages to the dimms 19:52 < marklar|omni> did you reset the cmos? 19:52 < marklar|omni> which ram/mobo/ 19:52 < marklar|omni> ? 19:55 < E_mE[Stilgar]> its not the ram, its always like it 19:55 < E_mE[Stilgar]> just sometimes its worse then other times 19:56 < marklar|omni> mobo then 19:57 < E_mE[Stilgar]> yeah... thats why the machine stays on 24/7 19:59 < E_mE[Stilgar]> marklar|omni: hows your photography going? 20:00 < marklar|omni> haven't had much time to upload new stuf 20:00 < marklar|omni> f 20:00 < marklar|omni> E_mE[Stilgar]: you can get a really good mobo for like $120USD 20:01 < marklar|omni> and if you splurge 150GBP 20:01 < marklar|omni> you can get an x38 gigabyte mobo 20:01 < E_mE[Stilgar]> well im planning on getting a new PC 20:01 < E_mE[Stilgar]> or Mac 20:01 < marklar|omni> ga-x38-dq6, for example 20:01 < E_mE[Stilgar]> thinknig about Mac Mini maybe 20:01 < E_mE[Stilgar]> show you the monitor i wanna get 20:02 < marklar|omni> 2408wfp ftw 20:02 < E_mE[Stilgar]> http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?LG-L226WT 20:03 < E_mE[Stilgar]> i wouldn't mind going for a 24" even ;D 20:03 < marklar|omni> oh 20:03 < marklar|omni> I have an lg-228wa 20:03 < marklar|omni> got one for my gf 20:04 < E_mE[Stilgar]> good review from you? 20:06 < E_mE[Stilgar]> ill finally get room on my desk at home too, ive got a 19" CRT... takes up half the desk :S 20:08 < marklar|omni> yeah 20:08 < marklar|omni> it's nice 20:09 < marklar|omni> I'd get a dell though 20:09 < E_mE[Stilgar]> i was surprised to learn that the iMac TFT monitors are only 750:1 contract ratio 20:09 < E_mE[Stilgar]> thought they'd be least a 1000 20:10 < E_mE[Stilgar]> i got a 17" dell TFT at work 20:11 < marklar|omni> fail 20:11 < marklar|omni> I have 3 17" 20:11 < marklar|omni> and they all suck 20:11 < E_mE[Stilgar]> haha 3 of um, why? 20:11 < E_mE[Stilgar]> monitoring different sectors of the company on each monitor =P 20:11 < marklar|omni> sorta 20:12 < E_mE[Stilgar]> i had a Viewsonic 17" and dell 15" on my PC at my last job 20:12 < E_mE[Stilgar]> viewsonic are nice 20:12 < marklar|omni> http://marklar.biz/post/23135605/officeplz 20:13 < marklar|omni> upgraded to msft natural 4000 since then 20:14 < E_mE[Stilgar]> wow 3-1 to holland 20:14 < E_mE[Stilgar]> 2 goals in like 1 minute 20:14 < E_mE[Stilgar]> 1 for france and 1 for holland 20:14 -!- Greg_ [n=Greg@ool-18b9b367.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #agavi 20:14 < E_mE[Stilgar]> talk about hyper match 20:15 < E_mE[Stilgar]> marklar|omni: how did you manage to get 3 monitors?? 20:15 < E_mE[Stilgar]> you stab the boss ;) 20:17 < marklar|omni> hehe 20:18 < marklar|omni> I said that I needed them 20:18 < marklar|omni> for, um 20:18 < marklar|omni> I don't rememebr 20:18 < E_mE[Stilgar]> ;) 20:18 < marklar|omni> hehe 20:18 < marklar|omni> I'd settle for 2 x 22" 20:18 < E_mE[Stilgar]> i think in the future i shall get another 22", then put one where the tv is on an extenstion lead 20:18 < marklar|omni> the center monitor is driven by a windows box, rightmost two are a continuous xinerama-driven display 20:19 < E_mE[Stilgar]> and then play films to it ;) 20:19 < marklar|omni> the lg I have has dvi/rgb/svideo/component/antenna inputs 20:19 < marklar|omni> does the one you're speccing has those? 20:19 < E_mE[Stilgar]> the one you got for your GF? 20:19 < marklar|omni> yah 20:19 < marklar|omni> 228ma or 228wa 20:19 < marklar|omni> not sure 20:19 < marklar|omni> maybe ma228w 20:19 < E_mE[Stilgar]> l226 WT from the looks of it 20:20 < marklar|omni> m228wa 20:20 < marklar|omni> http://www.lge.com/products/model/detail/m228wa.jhtml 20:20 < marklar|omni> I highly recommend it 20:21 < marklar|omni> she also has her sat-tv stb plugged into it 20:21 < marklar|omni> which is nice 20:21 < E_mE[Stilgar]> hah the specs say contract ratio of 5000:1, but the header desc says 3000:1 20:21 < E_mE[Stilgar]> on the 228wt 20:22 < marklar|omni> probably dynamic contrast 20:23 < marklar|omni> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrast_ratio#Dynamic_contrast_ratio 20:23 < marklar|omni> 3k:1 is not bad at all 20:23 < marklar|omni> anyway 20:23 < marklar|omni> the panel is pretty good for the price 20:23 < marklar|omni> I'd still get a dell 20:24 < marklar|omni> but when I bought it, there weren't any available in the country 20:25 < marklar|omni> k bbiab 20:25 * marklar|omni & 20:25 < E_mE[Stilgar]> cya marklar|omni 20:25 < E_mE[Stilgar]> just £$$$$ 20:31 * E_mE[Stilgar] is gonna go out to the Falmouth Sea Santy festival in abit... how cool! 20:32 < E_mE[Stilgar]> big bearded blokes singing at the top of there voices :D 20:35 < E_mE[Stilgar]> 4-1 to holland :D wow! 20:46 < _cheerios> that's big play 20:53 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-177-061.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 20:54 -!- lucifer4u [i=HydraIRC@87.252.235.129] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The future of IRC"] 21:13 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 21:20 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.139.62.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #agavi 21:40 < _cheerios> fuck. why do good ideas come at 00:30 denying any possibility to get sleep due pondering deeper. *sigh* 21:40 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.139.62.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit ["... is gone ... www.digitarald.de ... but he is coming back!"] 21:58 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@e178191202.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #agavi 22:01 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-177-061.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 22:02 < _cheerios> http://www.technoccult.com/archives/2008/03/26/supacat-on-sex-and-flirting-in-japan/ 22:02 < _cheerios> MikeSeth: being the regular reddit addict, got the original livejournal entry stacked somewhere? 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08:40 < marklar|omni> heheh 08:40 < marklar|omni> "Ubuntu" is an African word meaning "Slackware is too hard for me" 08:41 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:15 < _cheerios> it's been holding stronger with 6GB ram only 09:15 < _cheerios> was this the last ep of galactica? 09:17 < _cheerios> ah... continuing 2009... ok, that's not too far... 09:23 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 09:23 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 11:10 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-216-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 11:12 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 11:12 < Whisller> hi 11:27 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 11:46 -!- E_mE[Stilgar is now known as E_mE[stilgar] 13:21 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 14:31 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [] 14:35 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 14:49 -!- IcyT is now known as icyt 15:13 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.139.62.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #agavi 15:14 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 15:23 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.139.62.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit ["... is gone ... www.digitarald.de ... but he is coming back!"] 15:46 -!- icyt is now known as IcyT 15:48 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 15:54 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 16:17 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:17 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 16:24 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 17:12 < marklar|omni> hai 17:15 < MikeSeth> hai 17:15 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: i just returned from scientology raid! We got our own PI following us! 17:16 < Wombert> lulz 17:16 * Wombert pokes nfq 17:16 < MikeSeth> also I has an EFG mask now guise 17:50 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 17:51 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 17:51 < nfq> Wombert: you poked? 17:55 < impl> oh mai 18:07 < Greg_> we all pooked. 18:07 < Greg_> mikeseth: watch V for Vendetta. 18:07 < Greg_> that's a much cooler mask :) 18:22 < marklar|omni> heh 18:22 < marklar|omni> haha 18:22 < marklar|omni> Wombert: poek 19:05 < _cheerios> fracking oo design. i fail at it. can't even plug-in lazy init without really going into details :| 19:08 < MikeSeth> Greg_: that's the exact mask 19:11 < impl> :D 19:17 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 19:17 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 19:18 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Client Quit] 19:19 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 19:19 < Wombert> it's a guy fawkes mask fwiw :p 21:19 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 21:19 < Whisller> hmm maybe you wil know, when I'm trying to start apache it return error "ser takes one argument, Effective user id for this server" after compilation :/ 21:23 < Whisller> ehh :/ 21:37 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [] 22:16 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:38 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-216-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] --- Day changed Sun Jun 15 2008 00:13 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 00:29 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 00:51 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [] 00:55 -!- IcyT is now known as icyt 04:44 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 05:33 < v-dogg> huomenta 06:23 < marklar|omni> ohi 06:46 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.139.62] has joined #agavi 07:56 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.139.62] has quit ["... is gone ... www.digitarald.de ... but he is coming back!"] 08:34 -!- icyt is now known as IcyT 09:00 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@dslb-084-062-182-088.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 09:18 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 09:19 -!- MerlinDMC|away is now known as MerlinDMC 09:23 < MerlinDMC> Huomenta 09:26 < MikeSeth> ohai 09:26 < MikeSeth> huomenta 09:50 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-216-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 10:07 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 10:15 -!- MerlinDMC|away is now known as MerlinDMC 10:20 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.139.62.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #agavi 10:40 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 10:59 -!- Wombert_ [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-214-136.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 11:09 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-216-223.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:14 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 11:42 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 12:18 -!- Wombert_ is now known as Wombert 12:41 -!- lucifer4u [n=kirill@87.252.235.129] has joined #agavi 12:57 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 13:17 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 13:19 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.139.62.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit ["... is gone ... www.digitarald.de ... but he is coming back!"] 13:33 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:46 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 14:22 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 15:33 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 15:56 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:01 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@202.Red-79-144-210.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 16:26 -!- MerlinDMC|away is now known as MerlinDMC 16:59 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 17:01 < marklar|omni> maik maik maik 17:01 < marklar|omni> hear? 17:02 < marklar|omni> http://hwzone.co.il/community/index.php?topic=341181.0;topicseen 17:24 < Wombert> man you weirdos with your rtl gibberish 17:24 < Arme[N]> me? _o/ :P 17:59 < Greg_> hey guys 17:59 < Greg_> Do you have a good ORM? 17:59 < Greg_> for agavi 18:02 < Wombert> most people use propel or doctrine 18:02 < Wombert> agavi comes with convenience adapters for both 18:05 < Greg_> Wombert: I have a good suggestion for you. Use PalDb :) 18:05 < Greg_> I mean, it's an alternative. Propel and Doctrine are both very good. 18:06 < Greg_> (although propel is a bit verbose) 18:06 < Greg_> "Exceedingly long value being assigned to mobile.activation_code" <-- I just got this message from it. It automatically generates checks for your model like this. 18:09 < Wombert> if (Ajax::isAjaxRequest()) 18:09 < Wombert> echo Pal::component('componentToUpdate', $errors); 18:09 < Wombert> if (!$errors) 18:09 < Wombert> Pal::redirect('success_action_uri_here'); 18:09 * Wombert shudders 18:31 < v-dogg> umh? 18:31 < v-dogg> what is that? 19:06 < MikeSeth> when Wombert shudders 19:06 < MikeSeth> it is usually not good 19:10 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 19:10 < _cheerios> heelou 19:22 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.139.62.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #agavi 19:26 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 19:34 < _cheerios> summer \o/ 19:34 < Whisller> ehh why apple add apache for leopard why why why 19:35 < Whisller> and 64-bit architecture 19:35 < Whisller> kurwa why 19:35 < lucifer4u> kurwa :) 19:35 < Whisller> Now I cannot compile php 19:36 < Whisller> Someone of you was installed PHP on Leopard Apache? 19:36 < lucifer4u> tol'ko tut inogda posredine anglijskogo jazika mozhno uvidet' chto-to podobnoje :) 19:36 < digitarald> Someone who'll send me Mac, so I can test? 19:36 < Whisller> :P 19:39 < Whisller> lucifer4u: in which language is it :> 19:40 < lucifer4u> Whisller: russian. You said 'kurwa'.. It is one of the russian words.. 19:40 < Whisller> no it isn't 19:40 < Whisller> It is Polish word :P 19:40 < Whisller> Maybe I should re-compile apache, but how they compile php for 64-bit apache hmm 19:41 < Whisller> Google must help me ;) 19:42 < lucifer4u> Whisller: in a dictionary of the russian language this word means prostitute. What about Polish? 19:43 < Whisller> It has many means. One of them is prostitue 19:44 < Whisller> But not only it. You can use it when you are angry, when want ugly "it piss me off" -> "wkurwia mnie to" and so on. 19:44 < Whisller> Many many means 19:45 < Whisller> It is popular in UK - I'm not proud of it. 19:45 < lucifer4u> Whisller: I will be in Poland this summer. Now i know what to tell if one of the suppliers will tell me that they do not want to work with me :) 19:45 < Whisller> hehe 19:45 < lucifer4u> :) 19:46 < Whisller> But it is ugly word, using by people which cannot explain their angry by other way. Like that stupid polish assholes which goes to UK 19:49 < Whisller> lucifer4u: Where you will work? 19:49 < Whisller> btw sorry for my english 19:51 < lucifer4u> Sorry for my english too in that case :) I will join Warszawa and one small city (currently looking for its name in English) 19:53 < Whisller> lucifer4u: I'm living in Warsaw :) 19:53 < Whisller> which company? 19:55 < lucifer4u> Whisller: it is trading company. We want to buy some kids clothes .. Wojcik 19:56 < Whisller> I don't know it :) 19:56 < Whisller> Btw maybe you're looking job in Warsaw :) As PHP Programer. 19:57 < lucifer4u> Whisller: me too. I just have seen some of that clothes.. and i found them from internet.. Our customers like it .. so why should not i help them to get what they want :) 20:12 < Whisller> . 20:26 < Wombert> Whisller: your options are 20:26 < Wombert> a) compile php in 64 bits (explained on my blog) 20:26 < Wombert> b) force/trim apache to run as 32 bits 20:26 < Wombert> c) install apache by hand, from macports etc 20:26 < Wombert> d) use fastcgi instead of apache modules 20:27 < Whisller> Wombert: Can you give me an url for your blog? 20:27 < Whisller> *to 20:28 < Wombert> http://blog.wombert.de/post/23017941/compiling-php-5-3-in-64-bit-on-os-x-leopard 20:28 < Wombert> you need to fix the quotation marks, WYSIWYG messed them up 20:30 < Whisller> Thanks a lot! I will try with it :) 20:31 < Whisller> I tried one time with CFLAGS=”-arch x86_64" ./configure... but it crash whole make :/ 20:31 < Whisller> But I try with your solution 20:32 < Wombert> I think it doesn't work with 5.2 20:32 < Wombert> not sure tho 20:33 < Whisller> Ohh I downloaded 5.2.6 20:34 < Whisller> hmm is 5.3 stable? 20:34 < Whisller> Yes it still dev but is it stable :> 20:41 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@202.Red-79-144-210.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [":: www.scopealley.com ::"] 21:00 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: MerlinDMC|away 21:06 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:08 -!- Netsplit over, joins: MerlinDMC|away 21:10 -!- E_mA [n=jeramy@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has joined #agavi 21:11 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: E_mE, Greg_, Zeelot3k 21:15 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Greg_, Zeelot3k 21:15 -!- Greg_ [n=Greg@ool-18b9b367.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 21:15 -!- Greg_ [n=Greg@ool-18b9b367.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #agavi 21:22 < Whisller> Wombert: any of the links to entropy library from thread for which you gave link on your post do not work ;p 21:22 < Whisller> I checked 19 pages ; 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I'm not saying about extending in database, just in schema :> I have many tables where difference is only in one to max two fields. 08:19 < MerlinDMC> http://propel.phpdb.org/docs/en/user_guide/chapters/AdvancedObjectModel.html#AdvancedOM.Inheritance ... something like that perhaps? 08:23 -!- l3l [n=Mr_Poe@office.activisu.org] has joined #agavi 08:23 < Whisller> Hmm but it is an inheritance in models hmm but I only need it in schema, but I will check it. Thanks MerlinDMC 08:24 -!- FuRom [n=samuel@cpe-076-182-064-038.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #agavi 08:26 < FuRom> What is agavi? <_< 08:26 < digitarald> :D 08:26 < Whisller> agavi.org 08:26 < FuRom> Went there 08:26 < FuRom> Too confusing. 08:26 < digitarald> u should not join a channel and ask what it is ;) 08:26 < MikeSeth> helloz 08:26 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: sup 08:26 < FuRom> They really need an "about us" page. 08:26 < digitarald> here u go http://www.ohloh.net/projects/agavi 08:26 < MerlinDMC> Whisller, and also ... what's the difference in those "one or two fields"? ... completely different datatypes or just added/removed fields? 08:26 < digitarald> read the first review 08:26 < FuRom> digitarald, I figure that, since the people here know what it is, they can tell me? 08:27 * FuRom reads 08:27 < Whisller> MerlinDMC : added/remove, because that fields referer to another tables. 08:27 < FuRom> Alright 08:27 < MerlinDMC> perhaps it's enough to add them all to the database schema and left them in some of your class definitions? ... 08:27 < Whisller> FuRom : good question, what is agavi :> Hmm my god what are I'm doing here :> :D 08:28 < FuRom> Let me rephrase my question. What can this "framework" do? <_< 08:28 < FuRom> Samething I read a min ago. 08:28 < Whisller> blowjob 08:28 < Whisller> ;) 08:28 < Whisller> Sorry :P 08:28 < FuRom> Whisller, digitarald directed me here. 08:28 < FuRom> xD 08:29 < FuRom> I was like "OoOoOooOoOo! Shiny!" 08:29 < digitarald> I did suggest it as expert php meeting place ;) 08:30 < digitarald> not as place to lurk around ;) 08:30 < v-dogg> FuRom: are you asking "what is an application framework" or "how is agavi different from other (php) frameworks"? 08:31 < FuRom> v-dogg, I'm just trying to find out what can be accomplished with it, to get an idea of what it is. xD 08:31 < digitarald> FuRom: digitaralde runs on agavi 08:32 < digitarald> digitarald.de 08:32 < FuRom> v-dogg, I'd just download and play, but I'm studying mootools. 08:32 < FuRom> So..... it's.... a CMS? 08:32 < digitarald> its doing the magic behind web applications, its a framework to build them 08:32 < digitarald> not a cms, can be a cms 08:33 < FuRom> x_X 08:33 < FuRom> Oh 08:33 < Whisller> MerlinDMC: but I don't want to complicate. I just thought it is a simply way to create base schema for table, and other tables will extends from it. But only in schema, I don't want to do any inheritance in models. It is only a idea for smaller schema, without unnecessary code. But I see it is more complicated. 08:33 < FuRom> Pretty much... a php for php thing? 08:33 < digitarald> can be a shop, can be a pr0n serving application 08:33 < FuRom> Yup..... php for php thing. 08:33 < FuRom> lmao 08:34 < digitarald> and now download the sample app and shut up until u tried it ;) 08:34 < FuRom> lol 08:35 < FuRom> I'mma try it out later, after I get my mootool class extension complete. I've been lookin for stuff to gawk at. Hopefully this will be as good as a medium well juicy steak. 08:43 < marklar|omni> MikeSeth: I bought TF2 08:43 < marklar|omni> and installed steam on the lappy too 08:50 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: YOU ARE WINNER 08:50 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: add hailsword to friends 08:50 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: played it before? 08:51 < marklar|omni> nope 08:51 < marklar|omni> iz newb 08:51 < marklar|omni> obtw 08:51 < marklar|omni> you haz nvidia card, right? 08:51 < MikeSeth> in my desktop box 08:51 < MikeSeth> i have ati x300 on the lappy 08:51 < marklar|omni> oh 08:51 < marklar|omni> did you redeem the nvidia promo? 08:51 < marklar|omni> for portal? 08:52 < MikeSeth> no 08:52 < marklar|omni> um 08:52 < marklar|omni> do it plz 08:52 < MikeSeth> what for I have Portal bought 08:52 < marklar|omni> portal: first slise? 08:52 < marklar|omni> slice, even 08:52 < MikeSeth> wwat 08:52 < MikeSeth> there's new portal? 08:53 < marklar|omni> http://www.steamgames.com/nvidia1 08:53 < MikeSeth> omg hahahahaha 08:53 < marklar|omni> plz visit kthx 08:53 < MikeSeth> I got email from playtech 08:53 < MikeSeth> Subject: Mail server migration 08:53 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.139.62] has quit ["... is gone ... www.digitarald.de ... but he is coming back!"] 08:53 < marklar|omni> to exchange 2003? 08:53 < marklar|omni> kek 08:53 < MikeSeth> Content: a single attached picture that says "Playtech: your source of success" 08:53 < marklar|omni> hahahaha 08:55 < marklar|omni> I got a cap and a t-shirt from work 08:55 < marklar|omni> :\ 08:59 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 09:00 < marklar|omni> didja see the link, mike? 09:07 < MikeSeth> no 09:07 < MikeSeth> are in office 09:07 < MikeSeth> in teh evening 09:13 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=61f_1213548609 09:13 < MikeSeth> i lol'd 09:20 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 09:20 < Rendez> huomenta 09:20 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #agavi [] 09:20 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 09:22 < MikeSeth> oh hai 09:22 < MikeSeth> and FuRom hello, welcome to the conspiracy 09:23 < Rendez> Installing Entropy I find an issue 09:23 < Rendez> This line fails... 09:23 < Rendez> Include /private/etc/apache2/other/*.conf 09:23 < Rendez> So it's not loading the entropy conf file 09:23 < Rendez> Any idea? 09:24 < Rendez> "httpd: Syntax error on line 484 of /private/etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/other/+entropy-php.conf: No such file or directory" 09:24 < MikeSeth> Rendez: why is there a + in the file name? 09:24 < Rendez> don't know 09:25 < MikeSeth> is there one in the actual file's name? 09:25 < Rendez> yep 09:25 < Rendez> Should I remove it? 09:25 < Rendez> rename it 09:25 < MikeSeth> I suppose 09:26 < Rendez> I'll try it out 09:26 < Rendez> same issue 09:26 < Rendez> :( 09:27 < MikeSeth> what are the permissions on the file? 09:27 < MikeSeth> can apache read it? 09:27 < Rendez> lrwxr-xr-x 09:28 < Rendez> it says it is not found 09:28 < Rendez> but it is there 09:28 < Rendez> this works: find /private/etc/apache2/other/*.conf 09:28 < MikeSeth> are you sure youre looking at the file in /private/etc/apache2 and not in /etc/apache2? 09:28 < MerlinDMC> I've compiled my php for leopard locally ... I can send the configure line (thats somewhat bigger) to get a fat-file php for leopard or tiger 09:29 < MikeSeth> because its trying to open the one in /etc not the one in /private 09:29 < MerlinDMC> MikeSeth, /etc is symlinked to /private/etc 09:29 < MikeSeth> MerlinDMC: not you 09:29 < MikeSeth> Rendez 09:29 < MerlinDMC> I know ... but it's osx :P 09:29 < MikeSeth> ah 09:29 < MikeSeth> well shit I dont know anything about OS X 09:30 < Rendez> yeah 09:30 < Rendez> well, this... 09:30 < Rendez> sudo ln -sf /usr/local/php5/entropy-php.conf /etc/apache2/other/+entropy-php.conf 09:30 < Rendez> should symlink 09:30 < MikeSeth> why +?! 09:30 < Rendez> but the original isn't there I just realized 09:30 < MikeSeth> stop using + 09:30 < Rendez> http://www.entropy.ch/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=2945 09:30 < MikeSeth> lol Apple 09:31 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@142.Red-83-35-143.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 09:31 < MerlinDMC> I've got problems with Entropy's binary ... some module was missing ... dunno which it was ^^ 09:31 < MerlinDMC> gd2 or iconv ... one of them 09:31 < Whisller> And it is why I compile yesterday by myself php 09:32 < Whisller> without any that packages like entropy 09:32 < Whisller> MerlinDMC: with iconv was a problem on entropy as I read :> 09:32 < Rendez> I see 09:34 < Whisller> Btw I was a big problem with compile PHP on Leopard Apache, because it is in 64-bit architecture. Huh but google save me ;) 09:34 < Whisller> So if you want use PHP or other libraries with Leopard Apache remember compile it on 64-bit architecture 09:34 < MerlinDMC> Whisller, jip ... ive written a bash script for later updates ;) 09:34 < Rendez> that's why I'm trying this package 09:36 < Whisller> Rendez: But compile newest PHP with Leopard Apache is really simply, just add before ./configure CFLAGS="-arch x86_64" \ Today I must re-compile PostgreSQL because I also compiled it on 32-bit architecture 09:36 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 09:37 < Whisller> Btw. Wombert wrote on his blog how to install entrpy package 09:37 < Whisller> With newest PHP and Leopard 09:37 < MerlinDMC> Whisller, i've used a postgres binary package ... worked for me :P 09:37 < Whisller> MerlinDMC: but on Leopard? 09:37 < MerlinDMC> yes 09:37 < Whisller> With Leopard Apache :> 09:37 < MerlinDMC> yes 09:37 < Whisller> Can't be :> 09:38 < Whisller> But you compiled it using 64 bit? 09:38 < MerlinDMC> should i take a video? :P 09:38 < Whisller> Yes 09:38 < Whisller> Show me a scree :P 09:38 < Whisller> with -V of httpd :P 09:38 < Whisller> *screen 09:40 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@obc-r22-325-217-66-62-6.exozet.com] has joined #agavi 09:43 < marklar|omni> lol wtf 09:44 < marklar|omni> loltigerz 09:52 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:55 < Rendez> ok then 09:56 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 10:51 < marklar|omni> waaaaaah 10:52 < MerlinDMC> woohoo? 10:58 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:09 < digitarald> somebody had too much coffee 11:09 < MikeSeth> no such thing 11:12 < Macen> blah 11:12 < Macen> don;t bother updating realplayer if anyone uses it on mac 11:12 < Macen> it's entirely shit 11:13 < Macen> crap theme and they added a "play" icon to the dock image when something is playing and it's a png8 or gif with alpha channel 11:13 < Macen> very unsexy 11:16 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 11:17 < Macen> GET OUT OF MY MAC YOU SHIT THING 11:17 < Macen> argh 11:17 < Macen> fucking windows born programs should of been shot at birth 11:18 * Macen downgrades 11:19 < Macen> hah 11:19 < Macen> their ssl certificate expired 11:27 -!- Whisller [n=Miranda@aars241.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:32 -!- MerlinDMC|away is now known as MerlinDMC 11:33 < marklar|omni> heh 11:33 < marklar|omni> wtf do you have it installed 11:36 < MerlinDMC> Macen, the dock icon is optional ... perhaps you know this from installing windows programs ... if you do a "standard" installation you get the whole bag of useless stuff ;) 11:37 < Macen> ehh 11:37 < Macen> no i downloaded realplayer because radio1 stream from their web site with it :p 11:37 < Macen> i haven't downloaded xtools etc 11:38 < Macen> think i've used macports 11:39 < MerlinDMC> Macen, radio1 mens www.radioeins.de ? 11:39 < Macen> www.bbc.co.uk/radio1 11:40 < MerlinDMC> k :) 11:40 < Macen> the other option is windows media player .. :) 11:40 < Macen> and though you can use that on mac, it felt less wrong to use realplayer 11:40 < MerlinDMC> hehe 11:40 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-051-198.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 11:41 < MerlinDMC> perhaps vlc works as well 11:41 < Wombert> oh hai 11:43 < Macen> the french http mirror doesn't send the right headers and has crashed firebug with all the code output lol 11:44 < Macen> bugger my db script has failed 11:44 < Macen> failfailfail 11:44 < Macen> +-----------+ 11:44 < Macen> | count(id) | 11:44 < Macen> +-----------+ 11:44 < Macen> | 6255 | 11:44 < Macen> +-----------+ 11:44 < Macen> 1 row in set (0.01 sec) 11:45 < Macen> blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 11:45 * Macen food. 11:47 < Wombert> ... 11:47 < Wombert> Rendez: 11:47 < Wombert> ...09:24 < Rendez> "httpd: Syntax error on line 484 of /private/etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/other/+entropy-php.conf: No such file or directory" 11:48 < Wombert> look at the 1927461 threads in the entropy.ch forums 11:48 < Wombert> where 924571263 people ask this question 11:48 < Wombert> and everyone gets the reply "this is normal, not an error, do not use configtest" or so :p 11:49 < MikeSeth> Macs are strange >< 11:54 < MerlinDMC> MikeSeth, yes ... but if you own one ... you won't give it away anymore :P 11:54 < Rendez> Yah, but my apache isn't working 11:55 < MikeSeth> MerlinDMC: yes, the same argument crack dealers use to support their marketing efforts ;> 11:56 < Rendez> anyway... 12:13 < Macen> Mac is Crack 12:14 < Macen> i like it, we should sell it to steve jobs 12:14 < Macen> or just 12:14 < Macen> apple heh 12:20 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 12:23 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 12:29 -!- MerlinDMC|away is now known as MerlinDMC 12:36 < marklar|omni> heh 12:36 < marklar|omni> miek 12:36 < marklar|omni> leeching office bw for steam install = ultrawin 12:37 < MikeSeth> kekeke 12:38 < MikeSeth> so raep tonite? 12:38 < marklar|omni> I hoep 12:38 < marklar|omni> needs more firewalling removed though 12:38 < MikeSeth> Wombert: WE HAS CLAN!!!1! 12:38 < marklar|omni> blocks udp 12:38 < marklar|omni> ;[ 12:38 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: coming ~? 12:38 < marklar|omni> today? ya 12:38 < marklar|omni> I'm meeting w/buki at his place first though 12:38 < marklar|omni> but we can raep later 12:39 < MikeSeth> oic 12:39 < marklar|omni> gah faiel 12:39 < MikeSeth> kudos to buki 12:39 < marklar|omni> I accidently killed steam 12:39 < marklar|omni> and now it can't reconnect 12:39 < MikeSeth> no it just takes it a shitload of time sometimes 12:40 < MikeSeth> what other games do you have? 12:41 < marklar|omni> er 12:42 < marklar|omni> lemme see 12:42 < marklar|omni> lost coast 12:42 < marklar|omni> hl2 deathmatch 12:42 < MikeSeth> cute 12:42 < marklar|omni> portal the first slice 12:42 < marklar|omni> audisurf 12:42 < marklar|omni> audiosurf 12:42 < marklar|omni> that's it iirc 12:42 < marklar|omni> CsComm Session Jun-16-2008 15:32:49.698 [5884] CreateSession(tehmarklar,216,54)=6 attempt 3 failed: Failed to connect to any GeneralDirectoryServer, WinSock Error 0 "No error" 12:42 < marklar|omni> fucking firewall 12:42 < marklar|omni> I'll load it at buki's or something 12:43 < MikeSeth> im still confused tho 12:43 < marklar|omni> shouldn't take that long 12:43 < MikeSeth> wtf is first slice 12:43 < marklar|omni> dunno 12:43 < MikeSeth> i already played portal and finished it 12:43 < marklar|omni> hehe 12:43 < MikeSeth> if its just a demo then its worthless 12:43 < marklar|omni> oh its a demo 12:43 < MikeSeth> so wtf am i gonna do with it i have the full game ;> 12:44 < Wombert> this was a triumph... 12:45 -!- FuRom [n=samuel@cpe-076-182-064-038.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:54 < marklar|omni> kek 12:55 < marklar|omni> think tf2 will run on my lappy? 13:06 < MikeSeth> idk 13:06 < MikeSeth> CSS runs on mine 13:06 < MikeSeth> albeit slow 13:08 < marklar|omni> mm 13:08 < marklar|omni> it has x1300 13:08 < marklar|omni> +an 13:08 < MikeSeth> oh 13:08 < MikeSeth> how much ram? 13:08 < MikeSeth> mine only has 32 13:09 < marklar|omni> lemme check 13:10 < marklar|omni> mmm 13:10 < marklar|omni> sec 13:11 < MikeSeth> Wombert: Agavi clan y/n 13:11 < Wombert> uh? 13:11 < Wombert> n 13:11 < Wombert> o 13:11 < marklar|omni> says memory size 384mb 13:11 < Wombert> for tf2? 13:11 < MikeSeth> Wombert: ya 13:11 < marklar|omni> prolly at least 128 of that is mapped from ram 13:11 < Wombert> nah 13:11 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: WOOT 13:11 < Wombert> pick something ace 13:11 < marklar|omni> so it should suffice 13:12 < marklar|omni> Wombert: teh massacratorz 13:12 < marklar|omni> BURNINATORCLAN 13:12 < Wombert> Super 13:12 < Wombert> [Super] Camp Ninja Fail 13:12 < Wombert> :p 13:13 < marklar|omni> kek 13:14 < MikeSeth> BURNINATION 13:14 < MikeSeth> nice name 13:15 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 13:15 < MikeSeth> Burnspiracy! 13:15 * Macen cig 13:16 < marklar|omni> mv*.zig 13:16 < MikeSeth> /proc/justice/great 13:18 < marklar|omni> heh 13:18 < marklar|omni> if my room is /home/mark/ 13:18 < marklar|omni> my drawers are /mnt/socks 13:18 < marklar|omni> kek 13:20 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-43-230.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #agavi 13:21 -!- kaos|work_ is now known as kaos|work 13:24 < rick111> //\\//\\//\\// 13:39 < marklar|omni> sup 13:46 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 14:06 -!- l3l [n=Mr_Poe@office.activisu.org] has left #agavi [] 14:12 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has joined #agavi 14:21 -!- Whisller [n=Miranda@aars241.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 14:25 -!- MerlinDMC|away is now known as MerlinDMC 14:26 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 14:27 < Macen> varblahhar 14:27 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-182.customer.academica.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:29 < marklar|omni> zomg 14:29 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 14:32 < MikeSeth> coq 14:33 < marklar|omni> dongz 14:33 < marklar|omni> did you see avi bitter on 4chan 14:33 < marklar|omni> ? 14:36 < Macen> fail 14:36 < Macen> just lost a load of data :/ 14:36 < Macen> (again) 14:37 < Macen> mysql> select count(id) from portFabrics; 14:37 < Macen> +-----------+ 14:37 < Macen> | count(id) | 14:37 < Macen> +-----------+ 14:37 < Macen> | 5908 | 14:37 < Macen> +-----------+ 14:37 < E_mE> afternoon peepz :) 14:37 < Macen> 1 row in set (0.00 sec) 14:37 < Macen> mysql> select count(id) from portFabrics; 14:37 < Macen> +-----------+ 14:37 < Macen> | count(id) | 14:37 < Macen> +-----------+ 14:37 < Macen> | 1581 | 14:37 < Macen> +-----------+ 14:37 < Macen> spammmmm 14:37 < Macen> arr 14:38 < marklar|omni> maybe it's due to mysql 14:38 < marklar|omni> :D 14:38 < marklar|omni> ever consider a real database? 14:39 < Macen> no 14:39 < Macen> too much change in my life atm 14:40 < Macen> start of the year i despised frameworks 14:40 < Macen> now i use lots and am on mac 14:40 < Macen> maybe when i get settled i will :) 14:41 < marklar|omni> pff 14:41 < E_mE> hahaha are you getting random count values on mysql? 14:42 < Macen> wtf do you think mysql is !!! 14:42 < Macen> no 14:42 < Macen> inbetween i re-started the insert script which has delete from table; at the start 14:42 < MerlinDMC> Macen, ever tried to repair the tables? (take a backup before running repair) 14:42 < Macen> hence fail :p 14:42 < MerlinDMC> ahh ... :) 14:42 < Macen> nah the tables are all mysql5 14:42 < Macen> i did that already :) 14:43 < Macen> MerlinDMC: you use mysql? 14:43 * E_mE eases macen to #mysql ;) 14:43 < E_mE> hoho... 14:43 < MerlinDMC> at work i have to ... at home i use sqlite and postgres 14:43 < Macen> i own that channel hah 14:43 < marklar|omni> pgsql ftw 14:43 < marklar|omni> 17:42 < Macen> wtf do you think mysql is 14:44 < marklar|omni> a toy 14:44 < marklar|omni> for storing your cd collection or something 14:44 < E_mE> hhahaha 14:44 < Macen> HOHOHO 14:44 < marklar|omni> and even that, it does poorly 14:44 < marklar|omni> when I can run perl code inside the db 14:44 < marklar|omni> I'll use mysql 14:44 < marklar|omni> kthx 14:44 < Macen> omgwtfyouaremad 14:44 < Macen> you're just scared of the docs imo 14:44 < Macen> where you == (!mysql) 14:45 < E_mE> macen, speak normal, not cascaded shite 14:45 < marklar|omni> scared of the docs? 14:45 < Macen> oke_meiwillpal 14:45 < marklar|omni> I'm not sure I'm following 14:45 < Macen> well they are quite complicated in parts 14:45 < Macen> eg. data types; not one page with the sata types but in cat's 14:45 < Macen> s/sata/data 14:45 < marklar|omni> are you implying I can't read or something? 14:45 < marklar|omni> um heh 14:46 < Macen> i guess 14:46 < marklar|omni> k, then 14:46 < Macen> no, they're just awward 14:46 < Macen> imo 14:46 < Macen> take a bit of getting used too 14:46 < E_mE> well, Macen you MySQL expert, is it possible to have one table have constraints to two foreign tables? 14:46 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: I usually annoy people by demanding they put a trailing delimiter in their regexps :> 14:46 < MikeSeth> hey E_mE! 14:46 < marklar|omni> eheh 14:46 < E_mE> pets MikeSeth 14:46 < Macen> E_mE: ofc.. 14:46 < MikeSeth> E_mE: and yes 14:46 < E_mE> Doctrine is throwing errors about it 14:46 < marklar|omni> wait, can mysql actually have TWO timestamp columns where BOTH will be set to current_time on update? 14:47 < marklar|omni> haha 14:47 < marklar|omni> NO! 14:47 < Macen> ALTER TABLE table ADD FORIEGN KEY keyTableBlah (column) ON otherTable (thatTablecolumn) ON DELETE BLAH 14:47 < marklar|omni> kthxbai 14:47 < Macen> ha 14:47 < Macen> just use triggers then 14:47 < marklar|omni> why should I HAVE TO USE TRIGGERS 14:47 < MikeSeth> mysql triggers are SLOW 14:47 < MikeSeth> do not want 14:47 < marklar|omni> heh 14:47 < Macen> CREATE TRIGGER trigPortTimes BEFORE INSERT ON port FOR EACH ROW SET NEW.ctime = NOW(); 14:47 < Macen> there's one i made earlier 14:47 < Macen> ORRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrr 14:47 < Macen> CREATE TRIGGER trigUsrTimes BEFORE INSERT ON usr FOR EACH ROW SET NEW.lastLogin = NOW(),NEW.ctime = NOW(); 14:47 < Macen> ahhhhh 14:47 < marklar|omni> and the part where it just truncates superfluous data instead of raising exceptios 14:48 < marklar|omni> but why should I bother? 14:48 < Macen> i like truncation without crying 14:48 < Macen> i suppose 14:48 < marklar|omni> um 14:48 < Macen> well.. 14:48 < marklar|omni> so you've obviously never dealt with financial systems then 14:48 < Macen> ok i don't 14:48 < Macen> but i wouldn't fall out with mysql because of it 14:48 < E_mE> well what does this mean Macen? SQLSTATE[HY000]: General error: 1005 Can't create table './noize/#sql-12f4_15.frm' (errno: 150). Failing Query: ALTER TABLE noize_djuser ADD FOREIGN KEY (uid) REFERENCES noize_newdj_signup(djuser_uid) 14:48 < Macen> just code better validation 14:48 < marklar|omni> haha 14:49 < Macen> (errno: 150 - probably bad perms.. 14:49 < marklar|omni> Macen: I shouldn't HAVE TO 14:49 < marklar|omni> errno 150 means that the failbuffer has overflowed 14:49 < E_mE> Macen: well i've managed to create all the tables via doctrine 14:49 < E_mE> and this is doctrine throwing this error 14:49 < E_mE> well, mysql via doctrine 14:49 < Macen> have you updated your tables to mysql5? 14:50 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 14:50 < E_mE> no, and shouldnt have to 14:50 < Macen> marklar|omni: but............ 14:50 < Macen> marklar|omni: don't you have to code validation anyway? to stop it crying? 14:50 < Macen> E_mE: lol ok 14:51 < Macen> my script has finished :x 14:51 < Greg_> so hey guys 14:51 < Greg_> what's up 14:51 < marklar|omni> heh, yes, but I shouldn't have to check for stupid things like february 30th 14:52 < Macen> don't know that one 14:52 < marklar|omni> try creating a date col 14:52 < marklar|omni> and insert a a value like feb 30th 14:52 < marklar|omni> see what happens. 14:52 < marklar|omni> mysql is a TOY. 14:52 < Macen> hmk 14:52 < Macen> it's on my todo list 14:52 < E_mE> marklar|omni: what happens? 14:53 < marklar|omni> E_mE: it just silently munges the date into something acceptable 14:53 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 14:53 < E_mE> so guesses? 14:53 < E_mE> via a set of rules? 14:54 < marklar|omni> mysql> insert into fail values('30-FEB-2008'); 14:54 < marklar|omni> Query OK, 1 row affected, 1 warning (0.00 sec) 14:54 < marklar|omni> mysql> select * from fail; 14:54 < marklar|omni> +------------+ 14:54 < marklar|omni> | a | 14:54 < marklar|omni> +------------+ 14:54 < marklar|omni> | 0000-00-00 | 14:54 < marklar|omni> +------------+ 14:54 < marklar|omni> 1 row in set (0.00 sec) 14:54 < marklar|omni> a real database would smack you and kill your dog for that 14:54 < MikeSeth> mysql no comprende 14:54 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: well MYSQL is the only database in which NOT NULL actually means YES NULL 14:54 < E_mE> jah it should fail, not just set 0's 14:54 < MikeSeth> heh 14:54 < marklar|omni> heh 14:54 < marklar|omni> HEH 14:55 < E_mE> if you where stupid enough you could be inserting values for ages with no knowledge of any problem 14:55 < Macen> pay attention then 14:55 < Macen> show me a database that can return noobie-readable errors and i'll admit mysql has flaws 14:56 < Macen> well, mysql does have flaws anyway... 14:56 < Macen> but just tell me of one heh 14:56 < E_mE> Macen: the point there is it returns "No Error or warning" 14:56 < E_mE> nothing to do with newbie 14:56 < Macen> no 14:56 < Macen> well yes ok 14:57 < Macen> lazy validation would lead to a lot of problems, yes.. 14:57 < Macen> in a highly critical data system.. 14:59 < E_mE> macen: which point would you check for validation? 14:59 < Macen> E_mE: coming from user? 14:59 < E_mE> user input or prior to sql transaction? 15:00 < Macen> data coming from user should go through JS -> Server Side Script -> Send to db 15:00 < Macen> clearly.? 15:00 < Macen> heh 15:01 < E_mE> inside the server script where would you put validation 15:01 < Macen> depends 15:02 < Macen> if it's front end, twice - once in the form file 15:02 < Macen> and once in the func that gets passed the args 15:02 < Macen> just to be sure 15:03 < E_mE> well, dont see why you need to "just be sure" if you are the developer would be sure taht your code works correctly 15:03 < E_mE> as* 15:03 < Macen> i like to nod when i say "this application is secure sir" 15:04 < Macen> and............... 15:04 < Wombert> there's a whole bunch of reasons really. what if I want to use the db interface independently of the app and its validation 15:04 < E_mE> maybe you should check to make sure numbers are integers when you declare a var =P 15:05 < E_mE> Wombert: what you mean like, use the DB library in a external script? 15:07 < Greg_> I left last time when I started talking about 15:07 < Greg_> database ORMs 15:07 < E_mE> Wombert: do you think there are 2 approaches to development, developing for the task in hand and developing for a wide varity of implementations? 15:08 < Macen> e_me i'd say the latter 15:08 < Greg_> What do you guys use with agavi? Propel or doctrine 15:09 < Macen> but its practicality 15:09 < E_mE> i personally use doctrine 15:09 < E_mE> though i could slap mysql atm for a weird error 15:09 < Greg_> yeah, is it faster than propel? 15:09 < Greg_> whats the error 15:09 < E_mE> SQLSTATE[HY000]: General error: 1005 Can't create table './noize/#sql-12f4_15.frm' (errno: 150). Failing Query: ALTER TABLE noize_djuser ADD FOREIGN KEY (uid) REFERENCES noize_newdj_signup(djuser_uid) 15:09 < Macen> check your syntax 15:10 < Macen> make sure the columns match up etc 15:10 < Greg_> It looks like there's a foreign key constraint problem prolly 15:10 < Greg_> like, if they added this foreign key, then there will be a conflict 15:10 < Macen> you haven't given your foreign key a name 15:10 < Greg_> Also it may be you have two instances of mysqld running, or what Macen said :) 15:10 < Macen> LTER TABLE noize_djuser ADD FOREIGN KEY **WHATAMICALLED** (ui 15:11 < E_mE> Macen: ive got no syntax, its doctrine table definition 15:11 < Macen> sucks to be you then 15:11 < Greg_> hehe so you just showed that doctrine thingy has problems :) 15:11 < Greg_> Which brings me to my point: why don't you check out PalDb? 15:11 < Macen> FOREIGN KEY [index_name] (index_col_name,...) 15:11 < Macen> it's optional anyway... 15:12 < Greg_> It's a much smaller database layer + ORM that I wrote. You guys might want to use it with agavi. It works without any hitches 15:12 < E_mE> well, ive checked the syntax in the table definitions... the links look correct, its juist whinning 15:12 < Greg_> and what's even better... in most cases you don't have to rebuild a model like you do with propel and doctrine. 15:12 < Macen> E_mE: maybe the data in the table fails the calidation 15:12 < E_mE> ive got 4 tables for this 15:12 < Greg_> Remember, E_mE: the computer is always right ;-) 15:12 < Greg_> so find the error, you know u must anyway 15:12 < E_mE> Greg_: yes computers are TOM's ;) 15:13 < Greg_> TOM's? 15:13 < Greg_> whassat 15:13 < E_mE> Totally obedient morons ;) 15:13 < Macen> I PROBABLY JUST TOLD YOU THE SOLUTION 15:13 < Macen> AND YOU'RE GABBING !!! 15:13 < Macen> pay attention 15:13 < Macen> is the table empty??? 15:13 < Greg_> !! ! 15:14 < E_mE> yes the tables are empty 15:14 < Greg_> are you using innodb? 15:14 < Macen> are you sure 15:14 < Greg_> for all of them? 15:14 < E_mE> and if a row is insertedm then it will only be in the djuser table 15:14 < E_mE> ive not entered any into the newjd_signup table 15:14 < Macen> myisam tables will give that error too as well 15:14 < Greg_> check that you are using innodb 15:14 < Greg_> and not myisam for the referenced tables ;-) 15:14 < Macen> :) 15:14 < Greg_> actuallyfor both 15:15 < Macen> charset must match as well 15:15 < Greg_> yup 15:15 * E_mE looks into innodb and myisam 15:15 < E_mE> ive just let doctrine do the magic of creating the tables 15:15 < Macen> show create table doctrineFailed; 15:15 < E_mE> and its worked uptill now 15:15 < Greg_> this is exactly why you should use PalDb :) 15:15 < Macen> go into mysql console and your headaches will start too disappear 15:15 < Macen> if you're not already 15:16 < E_mE> well, i dont want to go round manually creating databases every two minutes, all i want to do is execute http://foo/install and it runs doctrine create tables from array 15:16 < Macen> ya i kno 15:16 < Macen> but just to check what the results of it are 15:16 < Macen> so you can config it better 15:16 < Greg_> E_mE: you know how Ruby On Rails was created by a guy who was tired of writing the same code over and over, and just wanted to make it easier for himself 15:17 < Greg_> Well, I also got tired of all these rails clones doing the same shit on PHP, so I wrote my own. 15:17 < _cheerios> where? 15:17 < Greg_> Therefore I wrote a plugin system which installs plugins together with databases 15:17 < Macen> show create table failedtable; will show you what doctrine has come up with, it won't change anything 15:17 < E_mE> Greg_: you implying i write my own ORM># 15:17 < E_mE> ? 15:18 < Greg_> E_mE: NO, I am saying use mine :) 15:18 < Macen> _cheerios did 15:18 < Greg_> it's easier to use than doctrine and doesnt have these problems ;-) 15:18 < Greg_> (although probably not as "powerful") 15:18 < Greg_> _cheerios: where is what 15:18 < _cheerios> your code 15:18 < Greg_> oh 15:18 < Greg_> right here: 15:18 < Greg_> http://code.google.com/p/pal-framework 15:18 < E_mE> let me check it out Greg_, im interesting in looking at it 15:18 < E_mE> oh hehe 15:18 < _cheerios> i ran into a lazy init problem with my orm implementation that ive been pondering over for the past 2 days alrady. friggin' oo is hard. 15:18 < Greg_> Just download the package and use only the PalDb classes from it 15:19 < Greg_> Here is a fully featured example of how you'd use PalDb in the real world: 15:19 < Greg_> http://pastie.org/215842 15:19 < Macen> currently supports MySQL additions like ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE 15:19 < Macen> that worries me heh :) 15:19 < Macen> i should hope so :) 15:20 < Greg_> Macen: well that kind of statement is aimed at people who like cross-DBMS compatibility layers lol 15:21 < Macen> the docs look light 15:21 -!- ttj_ [n=tjorri@kosh.hut.fi] has quit [Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)] 15:22 < _cheerios> Greg_: i'll stick to mine :) 15:22 < Greg_> _cheerios: no sweat :) 15:22 < Greg_> Yeah the whole framework is light, macen 15:22 < Greg_> although it could use more doc i think 15:22 < E_mE> Greg_: how comes your hanging around agavi if you've written you own FW? 15:23 < Greg_> It's really really fast. Like a hello world with filters, actions validation etc. is 2ms 15:23 < Macen> we're the only place that has worse docs than him ;) 15:23 < Greg_> E_mE: because I ran into some people touting agavi, and they convinced me :) I want to cross-collaborate with agavi 15:23 < E_mE> hehe lucky you ;) 15:24 < E_mE> Greg_: where you from? where you at PHPLondon? 15:24 < Greg_> I mean, I'm more concerned about having a framework with all the features that Pal has, AND with a community behind it, than the ego boost of having my own framework. 15:24 < Greg_> I'm actually from NYC. I would have been at PHPLondon if I lived on the other continent :) 15:24 < Macen> ahahaha 15:24 < E_mE> ;) 15:24 < Macen> new york :D 15:24 < Greg_> hehe 15:24 < Greg_> yup 15:24 < Greg_> wherea re you guys from? 15:25 < E_mE> uk 15:25 < E_mE> CCTV captial of the world ;) 15:25 < Macen> ya 15:25 < Greg_> lol 15:26 < Greg_> basically, I'm here to see if anyone wants to check out PAL, which is the framework i've been working on for a long time 15:27 < Macen> k 15:27 < Macen> i'll take a look later, Greg_ 15:27 < Greg_> I have no idea how to start an open source project w/a community 15:27 < Macen> at least you have better docs lol 15:27 < Greg_> all I've got is the actual project & source code that works for me. 15:27 < E_mE> Greg_: ive been the process of writing a framework too :) my boss insisted we write our own 15:28 < Greg_> Yeah, I've basically been writing all the source code and docs for now. They are wiki though, so anyone can add to them. I'd welcome more people into the project if they were interested. 15:29 < E_mE> agavi is my baby Greg_ :) hugs agavi! 15:29 < digitarald> ok ... new mootools forge will be on agavi ... a general project forge :) 15:29 < Whisller> Can someone explain me, because maybe I'm stupid? For what are you trying to write your own framework? If for PHP are some good frameworks? They have many features, good comunity and documentation ( not all of them ;p ). So for what? 15:29 < E_mE> but ill check your FW out at some point :) 15:29 < Wombert> to me, this really smells like Greg_ should touch base with _cheerios 15:30 < E_mE> Whisller: if your refering to me, its an internal framework for the company i work for :) 15:30 < _cheerios> he's doing an MVC Wombert, that's your turf, right? 15:31 < Wombert> nah I mean the ORM stuff _cheerios 15:31 < Whisller> But I don't see any good arguments for writing own framework. 15:31 < _cheerios> ah, well, if he can solve my lazy init problem, i'd appreciate that :) 15:31 < Greg_> Pal is my baby --- and I am not suggesting for babies to have sex hehe 15:31 < Greg_> but sharing is caring. 15:31 < Greg_> I'd be happy to touch base with _cheerios, or anyone :) 15:32 < E_mE> Whisller: wasn't my call, i attempt to bring agavi to my boss, but he wanted to experience writing his own 15:32 < E_mE> Whisller: and either case, its been an experience :) learnt alot from it :) 15:33 < Whisller> Yes I agree exprerience, but. I think better way to incerease skill is read a good code. 15:33 < Whisller> And work on good framework 15:33 < E_mE> Whisller: i disagree that reading makes you better, i think being practical builds skill, we least in me it does :) ... 15:33 < E_mE> well* 15:34 < E_mE> though you can be inspired from reading good code 15:34 < marklar|omni> ohai 15:34 < E_mE> and agavi has inspired me greatly :) 15:34 < Whisller> E_mE: but you can write somkething to already existing framework. 15:34 < Whisller> So you can work on good framework and write in it :p 15:34 < Greg_> I think working on a framework definitely increases your skill with a language. 15:35 < Greg_> But also, there is a question of trade-off. If you put all the work into the framework layer, you'll have to design, code and maintain it. 15:35 < Greg_> Although it will be perfectly suited to your needs, it is much better for the framework to be an open-source framework. 15:35 < E_mE> Whisller: i work with agavi also, but at home and made a tool here at work with agavi :) 15:35 < Greg_> With a community behind it! :) 15:37 * E_mE wonders where his boss has been all day? he said he would appear at some point today!?!? 15:38 < Greg_> Anyway go check out Pal if you want, otherwise it's really hard to explain what it does 15:38 < Greg_> I think it will give a lot of ideas to agavi devlopers, which can only be a good thing. 15:42 < _cheerios> frameworks are nice to write if you have no deadlines to make money 15:43 < E_mE> _cheerios: yes you completely correct! 15:45 * digitarald makes frameworks 15:53 < marklar|omni> man, reddit has gone downhill 15:56 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@142.Red-83-35-143.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["I'll come back ... digitarald.de"] 15:57 -!- icyt is now known as IcyT 16:00 -!- Whisller [n=Miranda@aars241.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["Home..."] 16:02 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@142.Red-83-35-143.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 16:07 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [":: www.scopealley.com ::"] 16:15 < nfq> hey Wombert 16:31 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 16:32 < E_mE> yo nfq 16:33 < Wombert> hai nfq 16:39 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has quit [] 16:48 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@obc-r22-325-217-66-62-6.exozet.com] has quit [] 16:48 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@obc-r22-325-217-66-62-6.exozet.com] has joined #agavi 16:49 < Macen> Wombert: pm :o 16:51 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@142.Red-83-35-143.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["I'll come back ... digitarald.de"] 16:52 -!- gingerbob [n=gingerbo@80.4.120.163] has joined #agavi 16:52 < gingerbob> evening 16:59 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 17:08 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@obc-r22-325-217-66-62-6.exozet.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 17:10 -!- IcyT is now known as icyt 17:14 -!- kaos|work [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-43-230.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:21 -!- gingerbob [n=gingerbo@80.4.120.163] has quit [] 17:23 < _cheerios> nokia e71 unvieled. glad i didn't buy a new phone yet. 17:24 < _cheerios> http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/05/25/nokia-e71-review/ 17:27 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@82.135.12.187] has joined #agavi 17:50 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 17:56 -!- trophaeum [n=trophaeu@59.167.212.13] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:01 -!- trophaeum [n=trophaeu@59.167.212.13] has joined #agavi 18:04 -!- trophaeum_ [n=trophaeu@59.167.212.13] has joined #agavi 18:07 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 18:08 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@82.135.12.187] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 18:10 -!- icyt is now known as IcyT 18:10 < Greg_> whoo 18:15 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-47-53.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #agavi 18:19 -!- trophaeum [n=trophaeu@59.167.212.13] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:21 -!- kaos|work__ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-47-53.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #agavi 18:36 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-47-53.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 18:43 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:45 < _cheerios> Greg_: what's with the .cls. ? I thought .class. was unnecessary already, but what's the deal here? 18:48 -!- kaos|work__ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-47-53.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 18:59 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-47-53.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #agavi 19:20 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 19:21 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 19:49 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 19:56 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 20:13 < Whisller> hi 20:19 < marklar|omni> ohai 20:39 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@e178152244.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #agavi 20:52 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@e178152244.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [] 21:15 * Wombert blinks 21:15 < Wombert> this rails ActiveResource thing is wicked 21:27 < _cheerios> http://flickr.com/photos/doesrails/128015501/ 21:28 < _cheerios> rails creator on critics :) i have one rails related book at home, still unfinished. havent had much time to read lately. 21:29 < _cheerios> all django at work these days, which equals more to learning py. 22:11 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:17 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit ["Sleep"] 22:29 -!- kaos|work__ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-47-53.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #agavi 22:33 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 22:33 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 22:34 < nfq> Wombert: ping 22:41 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-47-53.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:44 -!- IcyT is now known as icyt 23:19 -!- _trophaeum [n=trophaeu@59.167.212.13] has joined #agavi 23:24 -!- lucifer4u [n=kirill@87.252.235.129] has joined #agavi 23:28 -!- kaos|work__ [n=dominik@ppp-88-217-47-53.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 23:31 -!- trophaeum [n=trophaeu@59.167.212.13] has joined #agavi 23:37 -!- trophaeum_ [n=trophaeu@59.167.212.13] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:49 -!- _trophaeum [n=trophaeu@59.167.212.13] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:50 -!- Rick [i=rick@unaffiliated/rick] has quit ["I… don't need to be here."] --- Log closed Mon Jun 16 23:59:12 2008 --- Log opened Mon Jun 16 23:59:56 2008 23:59 -!- Chuckwal1a [n=chuckwal@agavi.org] has joined #agavi 23:59 -!- Irssi: #agavi: Total of 23 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal] 23:59 -!- Chuckwalla [n=chuckwal@agavi.org] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] --- Day changed Tue Jun 17 2008 00:00 -!- Irssi: Join to #agavi was synced in 6 secs 00:11 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 00:40 -!- lucifer4u [n=kirill@87.252.235.129] has quit ["leaving"] 00:46 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-051-198.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 00:49 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 01:01 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] --- Log closed Tue Jun 17 02:13:13 2008 --- Log opened Tue Jun 17 02:13:34 2008 02:13 -!- Chuckwalla [n=chuckwal@agavi.org] has joined #agavi 02:13 -!- Irssi: #agavi: Total of 20 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal] 02:13 -!- Chuckwal1a [n=chuckwal@agavi.org] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:13 -!- Irssi: Join to #agavi was synced in 3 secs 04:14 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 04:25 -!- Rick [i=rick@pool-71-189-11-16.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 04:38 -!- Rick [i=rick@unaffiliated/rick] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:39 -!- Rick [i=rick@pool-71-189-11-16.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 04:55 -!- Rick [i=rick@unaffiliated/rick] has quit ["I… don't need to be here."] 05:09 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 05:16 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.166.237.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #agavi 05:17 < digitarald> Huomenta! 05:19 < _cheerios> huomenta :) 05:26 < v-dogg> huomenta 05:32 -!- Rick [i=rick@pool-71-189-11-16.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 05:36 -!- Rick [i=rick@unaffiliated/rick] has quit [Client Quit] 05:48 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:59 -!- Rick [i=rick@pool-71-189-11-16.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 06:25 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-182.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 06:27 < _cheerios> re: huomenta 06:37 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #agavi 06:38 < MerlinDMC> huomenta 06:42 < _cheerios> dangers of procedurally generated game content http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aJY9iAD1rw 07:13 < marklar|omni> ohai 07:21 -!- Whisller [n=Miranda@aatd31.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 07:22 < Whisller> hi 07:29 < E_mE> huomenta 07:30 < E_mE> _cheerios: that video link you posted has been removed hehe 07:30 < marklar|omni> MikeSeth: hear? 07:30 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 07:31 < _cheerios> there's another clip http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-689194118682834081 07:35 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@obc-r22-325-217-66-62-6.exozet.com] has joined #agavi 07:35 < _cheerios> didn't have games like this when i was young one! 07:37 -!- Rick [i=rick@unaffiliated/rick] has quit ["I… don't need to be here."] 07:44 < fholmstrom> yay 07:44 < fholmstrom> finally have time to be on IRC ;> 07:46 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 07:48 -!- Rick [i=rick@pool-71-189-11-16.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 07:48 < _cheerios> let the good times roll, fholmstrom 07:49 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: rgr 07:50 < fholmstrom> ;> 07:56 < E_mE> oh oh spore is out soon :D :D :D :D 07:56 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-051-198.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 08:07 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 08:20 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 08:22 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.166.237.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit ["... is gone ... www.digitarald.de ... but he is coming back!"] 08:25 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-051-198.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 08:26 < E_mE> some business buzz words everyone "should be" using ;) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7457287.stm 08:26 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-051-198.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 08:26 < E_mE> Wombert: for your business you are required to adopt this list of buzzwords ;) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7457287.stm 08:27 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-051-198.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:28 < fholmstrom> E_mE: lol 08:28 < fholmstrom> thats just awesome 08:31 < E_mE> hehe fholmstrom i quite like: "let's touch base about that offline" and "you can't turn a tanker around with a speed boat change." ... the second one is so stupid 08:36 < fholmstrom> :P 08:36 < fholmstrom> "strategic staircase" 08:37 < fholmstrom> one of my favourites ;P 08:40 < marklar|omni> wtf is that crap 09:02 < _cheerios> http://farm1.static.flickr.com/131/319047856_dbf1ef3e92.jpg 09:06 < Whisller> And answer "It is a Klingon" ;) 09:07 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@187.Red-83-55-31.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 09:14 -!- Whisller [n=Miranda@aatd31.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org"] 09:40 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 09:41 -!- digitarald| [n=Miranda@168.Red-83-55-75.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 09:48 -!- Rick [i=rick@unaffiliated/rick] has quit ["I… don't need to be here."] 09:49 < marklar|omni> kek 09:50 < marklar|omni> snaaaaaaaaake, it's a snaake 09:50 < marklar|omni> it's a snake 09:51 < marklar|omni> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/06/13/funny-pictures-itz-nom/ 09:51 < v-dogg> in your pants 09:51 < marklar|omni> food now 09:52 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 09:54 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@187.Red-83-55-31.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:56 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 10:02 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 10:03 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has joined #agavi 10:03 < Flukey> huomenta 10:09 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@168.Red-83-55-75.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 10:10 < Flukey> in agavi where do you say which modules/views etc. you want to cache? 10:11 < digitarald> cache folder in each module 10:11 < digitarald> Name.xml where Name is the name of the Action 10:12 < digitarald> Flukey: My project Index.xml: http://paste.mootools.net/d27d63eb9 10:13 < Flukey> ah excellent. and how would i disable the Index.xml? 10:13 < Flukey> just remove the file? 10:13 < digitarald> look closer ;) 10:13 < digitarald> search for "enabled" ;) 10:13 < digitarald> of course its nothing bad to remove the file, to be sure ;) 10:14 -!- Rick [i=rick@pool-71-189-11-16.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 10:14 < Flukey> ah i see :$ 10:14 < Flukey> my one different have enabled :) 10:15 < Flukey> yay that worked :D 10:15 < Flukey> and how does template_variable work? 10:15 < Flukey> i assume thats the variables that are subject to change? 10:16 < digitarald> I set those in my BaseView 10:16 < digitarald> and use them in my Master 10:16 < digitarald> Agavi caches only the content slot 10:16 < digitarald> AND those variables for the Master 10:17 < digitarald> since u need both for the composite 10:17 < Flukey> Oh ok. I see. :) thank you. That sorted it 10:18 < digitarald> No problem 10:26 -!- digitarald| [n=Miranda@168.Red-83-55-75.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:29 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 10:39 < Flukey> what does the create slot container do folks? 10:39 < digitarald> creates an action 10:39 < digitarald> container 10:39 < MikeSeth> Flukey: it's just an usual container with an is_slot flag set 10:39 < digitarald> u can get slots from layers 10:40 < MikeSeth> Flukey: most common use for it is to load the full decorator layout when the action is invoked normally and a special cut-up one when it's from a slot 10:41 < Flukey> and when would one use a 'special cut-up' one? for example. 10:41 < MikeSeth> Flukey: when the action is involved from a slot 10:41 < MikeSeth> invoked* 10:41 < MikeSeth> because you dont want the whole surrounding html inside a slot 10:41 < MikeSeth> cuz then you get ....slot content.... 10:41 < digitarald> u can also set the output type 10:42 < digitarald> to something without decorator 10:42 < Flukey> Oh i get you :) makes sense. thanks. 10:42 < MikeSeth> digitarald: not sure its a good idea 10:42 -!- LBO_ [i=d4a06aa0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7154f90abb5e58c7] has joined #agavi 10:42 < digitarald> I don't remember how I do it usually 10:42 < LBO_> huomenta guys 10:46 < LBO_> Can U help me? http://www.pastie.org/216419 10:47 < LBO_> If I check all option, I expect an array of values (1,2) but nothing apperas 10:48 < LBO_> in POST data 10:48 < LBO_> (by post i mean Agavi parameters of post) 10:48 < digitarald> u need to validate the array first 10:49 < LBO_> which validator i should use? 10:49 < MikeSeth> LBO_: strict mode? 10:49 < digitarald> http://www.pastie.org/216422 10:50 < digitarald> validates a roles array with strings 10:50 < LBO_> MikeSeth: yep 10:51 < MikeSeth> LBO_: validate it or you can't read it 10:52 < LBO_> thank you Mike - it works 10:53 < LBO_> I mean digitarald :) 10:53 < LBO_> thank u d. 11:02 < _cheerios> on "[PHP-DEV] [PATCH] [RFC] Closures and lambda functions in PHP", marcus boerger replies, "I think we should really add this to 5.3". 11:04 < MerlinDMC> lambda ... urgh! 11:13 < MerlinDMC> if they implement it like create_funktion() (is sorta like lamba ... for what we need another one?) they do it the wrong way ;) 11:13 < marklar|omni> heh 11:14 < marklar|omni> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/06/09/funny-pictures-her-eyes-not-down-here/ 11:14 < MerlinDMC> for myself i prefer the python way ... to have a function defined in a function scope 11:15 < MerlinDMC> (or OOP of course) 11:28 < marklar|omni> ohai 11:30 < MikeSeth> is there any [hax] way to relax private/protected restriction for unit testing? 11:30 < MikeSeth> anyone? 11:31 < _cheerios> we dont do hax 11:31 < MikeSeth> lies 11:31 * MikeSeth hax _cheerios' boat 11:33 < MerlinDMC> MikeSeth, can't the reflection api alter class definitions? then u just have to roll over all classes and alter the restrictions ^^ 11:33 < marklar|omni> reflect 11:33 < marklar|omni> yea what he said 11:34 < MerlinDMC> or just build your damn cool zend plugin to alter that stuff at compile time for you ^^ 11:34 < MikeSeth> good idea 11:34 < marklar|omni> or skip the unit testing 11:34 < marklar|omni> what are you, some kind of professional 11:34 < MikeSeth> dont be a jew, jew 11:34 < marklar|omni> not approved~ 11:34 < MerlinDMC> skipping the tests would be the easiest way ... yeah :P 11:34 < marklar|omni> IT COMPILES 11:34 < marklar|omni> SHIP IT 11:35 < MikeSeth> thats an idea 11:35 * MikeSeth adds a fake compile target that does nothing and always returns success 11:35 < marklar|omni> add a delay loop that runs some protein folds or something 11:36 < marklar|omni> so it doesn't look suspicious 11:38 -!- Whisller [n=Miranda@aatd31.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 11:42 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:12 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:12 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 12:13 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 12:16 < marklar|omni> asjdhas 12:22 < marklar|omni> http://www.bella.co.il/pc/ 12:31 < _cheerios> eh? 12:32 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 12:34 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 12:38 < marklar|omni> zomg 12:50 -!- LBO_ [i=d4a06aa0@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7154f90abb5e58c7] has quit ["http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client"] 12:53 < marklar|omni> ok, wtf 12:54 < marklar|omni> I have a table, (id bigint, prt bigint) 12:54 < marklar|omni> I want an fk on prt -> id 12:54 < marklar|omni> within the same table 12:54 < marklar|omni> and mysql refuses to do it 12:54 < marklar|omni> so wtf 13:00 < _cheerios> The first 90% of the code accounts for the first 90% of the development time. The remaining 10% of the code accounts for the other 90% of the development time. 13:03 -!- fnordfish [n=fnordfis@obc-r22-325-217-66-62-6.exozet.com] has quit [] 13:03 < v-dogg> _cheerios: well said :) 13:06 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 13:11 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 13:19 -!- Yossi [n=nospam@62.90.159.110] has joined #agavi 13:19 < Yossi> Huomenta 13:21 -!- crescendo [n=crescend@123.200.238.190] has joined #agavi 13:23 -!- crescendo [n=crescend@123.200.238.190] has left #agavi [] 13:28 < Yossi> anyone heard about Firefox 3 being delayed or somthing 13:31 < digitarald> read twitter ;) 13:43 < _cheerios> http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=2092 13:48 < Yossi> yey 14:14 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:16 < MikeSeth> 13:59 trelayne, there really isn't a framework I've liked in php yet 14:16 < MikeSeth> 13:59 though agavi is kind of close... 14:17 < MikeSeth> I lol'd 14:25 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-182.customer.academica.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:36 < E_mE> anyone checked out the new Opera?? 14:36 < E_mE> it does appear to have some fairly nice features 14:38 < saracen> Can you still use it to browse the internet, or have the new features replaced it's old? 14:40 < E_mE> well ive not seen precious versions 14:40 < E_mE> has a nice javascript/page debugger 14:40 < E_mE> pretty much identical to firebug 14:42 -!- icyt is now known as IcyT 14:44 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 14:44 < fholmstrom> YO BITCHES 14:51 < rick111> sup gay boy 14:52 -!- Whisller [n=Miranda@aatd31.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["home"] 14:54 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit ["If you ever come across an Internet Explorer developer, it is your duty to indiscriminantly happy-slap them. Preferably on ca] 14:56 < fholmstrom> GAY BOY 14:56 < fholmstrom> THATS ME 14:56 < fholmstrom> YOU SAID SO 14:57 < fholmstrom> go fuck urself ;8 14:59 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 15:03 < Macen> they fixed the does not focus bug :D 15:03 < Macen> in ff3 15:04 < Macen> and firebug can now have sections disabled and is off by default 15:04 * Macen Trashes Safari 15:06 < rick111> in the bin 15:07 < Flukey> omg. redmine wiki is poo 15:07 < Flukey> has anyone used it? 15:08 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 15:29 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 15:30 < digitarald> whats a good issue tracker (no Trac) 15:30 < MrJeep> hi 15:30 < digitarald> I need it simple for clients 15:30 < digitarald> hey Mr J. 15:31 < MrJeep> how r u digitarald ? 15:32 < digitarald> good, kinda hot here ... Summer started 15:33 < MrJeep> yeah same here 15:33 < MrJeep> finallly... started 15:35 -!- Xylakant [n=fgilcher@obc-r22-325-217-66-62-6.exozet.com] has joined #agavi 15:35 < Xylakant> Huomenta 15:39 -!- Xylakant [n=fgilcher@obc-r22-325-217-66-62-6.exozet.com] has quit [Client Quit] 15:55 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [":: www.scopealley.com ::"] 15:59 -!- Yossi [n=nospam@62.90.159.110] has quit [] 16:08 < nfq> yo impl welcome to Europe mate 16:09 < E_mE> ah is impl in ze Deuschland? 16:12 < MrJeep> can someone explain this : 16:12 < MrJeep> (in a view) 16:12 < MrJeep> $page = $this->getAttribute('page'); 16:12 < MrJeep> echo $page->getTitle(); 16:12 < MrJeep> $this->setPageTitle($page->getTitle()); 16:12 < MrJeep> result : 16:12 < MrJeep> Nous joindre 16:12 < MrJeep> Fatal error: Call to a member function getTitle() on a non-object in /Users/jpdery/Sites/Contract/KTW/KTWesternFarm/app/modules/Page/views/ViewSuccessView.class.php on line 25 16:13 < MrJeep> echo $page->getTitle() wors 16:13 < MrJeep> $this->setPageTitle($page->getTitle()) does not 16:15 < MrJeep> or better 16:15 < MrJeep> This works : echo $page->getTitle(); 16:16 < MrJeep> hum, having trouble to reproduce now 16:16 < E_mE> var_dump($page); 16:16 < E_mE> have a look 16:18 < MrJeep> ahh.. it's a slot problem :S 16:19 < MrJeep> clumsy me 16:23 < MrJeep> Wombert: when a slot is created using createSlotContainer, (example :$s = $this->createSlotContainer('Page', 'View', array('url' => $url)); Does it validates the parameters ? 16:24 < MrJeep> I think it don't (this is what's causing my problems) 16:25 < MrJeep> with a get request it does, but not on a write request 16:25 < MrJeep> the action used to create the slot use execute() directly 16:26 < MrJeep> is this normal behavior ? 16:27 < MrJeep> hum 16:27 < MrJeep> I think I might know why ... 16:27 < MrJeep> lol 16:28 < MrJeep> I think we should remove my last few questions from the irc log :: 16:31 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 16:37 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@168.Red-83-55-75.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:40 < Wombert> it is 16:40 < Wombert> unless the action is simple 16:40 < MrJeep> yeah I made another stupid mistake 16:55 < Flukey> night champs 16:56 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 16:57 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has quit [] 17:04 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit ["If you ever come across an Internet Explorer developer, it is your duty to indiscriminantly happy-slap them. Preferably on ca] 17:25 < marklar|omni> hallo 17:25 < marklar|omni> tf2 installed 17:33 < nfq> Wombert: ping! 17:53 < Wombert> nfq: pong! 17:53 < nfq> ring ring 17:58 < marklar|omni> dreeeeeeng 18:25 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 18:35 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit ["bai"] 18:50 < _cheerios> end of an era tomorrow. myspace to get a facelift. 18:53 < E_mE[stilgar]> evening 18:54 < Whisller> newest firefox is out 18:57 < E_mE[stilgar]> getfirefox.com was down earlier .. 18:57 < E_mE[stilgar]> still is 18:57 < Whisller> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-3.0&os=osx&lang=en-US 18:57 < Whisller> maybe it will be works 18:58 < E_mE[stilgar]> im linux 18:58 < E_mE[stilgar]> and en-GB 18:58 < Whisller> then change your os in url :) 18:58 < E_mE[stilgar]> =P 18:58 < Whisller> but design looks horrible :/ 18:58 < Whisller> and i cannot download any plugin 18:59 < Whisller> servers are out 18:59 < E_mE[stilgar]> :S 18:59 < E_mE[stilgar]> downloaded it at 900k/sec :D 19:00 * E_mE[stilgar] wonders why there site is borked :/ 19:00 < Whisller> hehe 19:02 < Whisller> it's really fast, or it is just my imagination 19:02 < E_mE[stilgar]> what there website? 19:03 < E_mE[stilgar]> oh getfirefox.com worked now :/ 19:03 < E_mE[stilgar]> strange 19:03 < E_mE[stilgar]> now time to punch mysql in the face 19:04 < Whisller> :) 19:06 < _cheerios> watched thru the Jimmy Kimmel videos, good stuff :) [in order] http://youtube.com/watch?v=-PZNfOZXPJk http://youtube.com/watch?v=zZRLcp9dhcU http://youtube.com/watch?v=QKVsU_YnABc 19:06 < E_mE[stilgar]> Whisller: you look at opera? 19:06 < Whisller> 9.5? 19:06 < E_mE[stilgar]> whos jimmy kimmel? 19:06 < E_mE[stilgar]> the latest one 19:07 < _cheerios> it's a long skit. it's in the order of events there :) 19:07 < Whisller> yeah I have it. But I prefer FF. It has some smart plugins, for developers 19:07 < Whisller> brb 19:11 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 19:13 < Whisller> _cheerios: rotfl 19:16 < Whisller> but only this fucking sound where they are saying "fuck" :/ 19:18 < _cheerios> yer, the beeps sucked. 19:21 < Whisller> but why firefox do not add function for clone tabs :/ 19:21 < Whisller> *cloning 19:21 < Whisller> *tab 19:23 < E_mE[stilgar]> i do like the create search feature on any input field though :D 19:24 < Whisller> yeah but it is on opera...or FF add it ? 19:24 < Whisller> hmm "Add a keyword for this search"..so ff has it :> 19:25 < E_mE[stilgar]> oh wheres that Whisller? 19:25 < E_mE[stilgar]> that ff3 or 2? 19:25 < Whisller> ff3 19:25 < Whisller> On right mouse button 19:25 < E_mE[stilgar]> an ff2 19:25 < E_mE[stilgar]> and 19:25 < E_mE[stilgar]> shit! 19:25 < E_mE[stilgar]> thats cool 19:25 < Whisller> but I'm not sure it works like on opera 19:26 * E_mE[stilgar] tests 19:26 < Whisller> ohh yes like on opear 19:26 < E_mE[stilgar]> just setup it up for php 19:26 < E_mE[stilgar]> now just type php :D 19:27 < E_mE[stilgar]> wow some of the feature 19:27 < Whisller> mhm it looks good 19:28 < E_mE[stilgar]> i do like the opera 9 page shortcut view 19:29 < Whisller> I never used it. 19:29 < Whisller> *those 19:29 < Whisller> those or it? which is better correct :> 19:29 < E_mE[stilgar]> the mouse gestures are abit strange i found 19:30 < Whisller> For FF you have a plugin for mouse gestures. 19:30 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:30 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 19:30 < Whisller> *in FF 19:31 < E_mE[stilgar]> yah, i shall not be adding it 20:24 -!- Arme[0] is now known as Arme[N] 20:27 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-161-184.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 20:35 < saracen> undefined method WybtUser::getCredentials() 20:35 < saracen> WAI? 20:37 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@205.205.248.22] has joined #agavi 20:37 < _cheerios> fucking facebook. i go use it and its all down. 20:46 < E_mE[stilgar]> _cheerios: ha, same problem here 20:47 < _cheerios> i think i have a problem. im repeating that im fucking matt damon song all the time. 20:48 < E_mE[stilgar]> just think of lordi ;) 20:54 * Wombert pokes MikeSeth 20:54 * Wombert stabs marklar|omni 20:57 * _cheerios gives Wombert a glass of milk 21:02 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@205.205.248.22] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:03 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@205.205.248.22] has joined #agavi 21:12 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:12 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 21:52 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:56 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@205.205.248.22] has quit [] 22:31 -!- Wombert_ [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-063-094.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 22:36 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-066-161-184.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:55 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit ["bed"] 23:04 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 23:29 -!- Wombert_ [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-063-094.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 23:54 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@205.205.248.22] has joined #agavi 23:54 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@205.205.248.22] has quit [Client Quit] --- Day changed Wed Jun 18 2008 00:03 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 00:07 -!- IcyT is now known as icyt 00:27 -!- tom-jones [n=tom@ip98-168-139-121.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #agavi 00:28 < tom-jones> I have a Master template in app/template and I want to edit the output_types to use it and one slot "content" 00:29 < tom-jones> Is it posible to do this? 00:59 -!- tom-jones [n=tom@ip98-168-139-121.ok.ok.cox.net] has quit [] 01:52 -!- Arme[N] is now known as Arme[0] 01:53 -!- Rick [i=rick@unaffiliated/rick] has quit ["I… don't need to be here."] 02:08 -!- Arme[0] [n=Arme[N]@unaffiliated/armen/x-394205] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:19 -!- Rick [i=rick@pool-71-189-11-16.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 03:57 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["I Quit!"] 04:29 -!- trophaeum [n=trophaeu@59.167.212.13] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:40 < v-dogg> huomenta 06:31 -!- trophaeum [n=trophaeu@59.167.212.13] has joined #agavi 07:00 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-182.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 07:00 < _cheerios> huomenta 07:04 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-063-094.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 07:22 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #agavi 07:23 < E_mE> huomenta 07:29 < MerlinDMC> huomenta 07:36 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-063-094.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 07:44 < E_mE> http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7457000/7457841.stm <--- article about the possible descruction of the internet... 07:49 < marklar|omni> ohai 07:50 < marklar|omni> "Unlike the internet, the i-Phone is a proprietorial network." 07:50 < marklar|omni> wtf 07:50 < marklar|omni> did an 8-year old write this 07:50 < marklar|omni> E_mE: epic fale, plz kill self 07:50 < marklar|omni> bai 07:54 < _cheerios> just use linux 07:58 < E_mE> _cheerios: that was my thought exactly 08:04 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 08:12 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 08:18 < Rick> isn't the iphone hackable anyway? 08:18 < Rick> plus the sdk for iphone is out 08:21 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #agavi [] 08:23 < marklar|omni> Rick: no warranty if you hax it, iirc 08:23 < E_mE> Rick: yeah there may be a SDK but i think the point is that you need to submit it to apple for it to work on the iphone, bit like digital driver signatures on Windows 08:26 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #agavi 08:31 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 08:32 < marklar|omni> E_mE: android is where it's at 08:33 < E_mE> marklar|omni: whats android? 08:33 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has joined #agavi 08:36 < MerlinDMC> an OS for mobile phones? 08:37 < MerlinDMC> "the" google os right? ^^ 08:40 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 08:58 < marklar|omni> yes 08:58 < marklar|omni> aka "ultrawin" 09:01 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 09:03 < fholmstrom> marklar|omni: 09:03 < fholmstrom> i think (in that article) he ment that the network in which the iPhone distributes programs foritself it controlled by apple 09:03 < fholmstrom> while it works "over the interwebs" its still a propiertary network within an open one 09:04 < fholmstrom> unlike the internet where anyone can publish a program 09:05 < fholmstrom> but yeah, the wording is a bitch strange I agree 09:23 < marklar|omni> um heh 09:23 < marklar|omni> No definitions of proprietorial were found in English 09:23 < marklar|omni> ITS NOT EVEN A FUCKING WORD 09:24 < rick111> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Proprietorial 09:24 < rick111> first hit on google if you type "proprietorial" 09:29 < marklar|omni> redir to proprietor 09:29 < MikeSeth> brits showing off 09:29 < marklar|omni> heh yea 09:29 < MikeSeth> the modern spelling is "proprietary" :> 09:29 < marklar|omni> ^ 09:29 < marklar|omni> kthx 09:30 < marklar|omni> heh mak 09:30 < marklar|omni> maik 09:30 < marklar|omni> audiosurf ftw 09:30 < marklar|omni> I'm addicted :( 09:30 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: tf2 raep yuo + wombart + moi tonight? 09:30 < MikeSeth> obtw 09:30 < MikeSeth> anon + protests => 7 pages anti-scilon article in Globes 09:30 < MikeSeth> winnor ;> 09:33 * MikeSeth runs phing apidocs fgj 09:34 < marklar|omni> mm 09:34 < marklar|omni> tf2 fgj 09:34 < marklar|omni> maybe I'll buy a cheap pc to gaem on 09:34 < marklar|omni> lappy's a little slow ;[ 09:38 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: yes we can :D 09:42 < E_mE> morning MikeSeth :) 09:42 < MikeSeth> oh hey 09:44 < E_mE> tf2 looks very toy like 09:44 < E_mE> the animations 09:52 < MikeSeth> and addictive 09:52 < marklar|omni> YES 09:52 < marklar|omni> WE 09:52 < marklar|omni> CAN 09:55 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #agavi 09:57 * Macen hasn't bought a pack of cgs since sunday 09:57 < Macen> cigs* 09:58 < Macen> and i have about 14 left 09:58 < Macen> i think i'm a non smoker :o 10:11 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 10:12 -!- MerlinDMC|away is now known as MerlinDMC 10:33 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 10:41 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has joined #agavi 10:59 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:01 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:02 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 11:05 < Flukey> Proprietorial - i've heard of that word, and do indeed use it. :P 11:33 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@132.Red-83-55-79.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 11:54 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 11:58 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:58 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 12:31 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 12:59 < MikeSeth> marklar|omni: http://www.steampowered.com/pyro/?pw=presspreview 13:00 < MikeSeth> hahahahahaah new achievement 13:00 < MikeSeth> called "OMGWTFBBQ" 13:00 < MikeSeth> LOL LOL LOL 13:02 < digitarald> nice ... 13:02 < digitarald> And my girl has to work on the weekend 13:03 < rick111> MikeSeth i never thought as you as a gamer 13:05 < MikeSeth> too bad 13:05 < MikeSeth> i raep regularly 13:07 < rick111> nice 13:09 -!- mrx_ [n=mrx@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has joined #agavi 13:15 -!- Wombert_ [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 13:22 -!- MerlinDMC|away is now known as MerlinDMC 13:31 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:34 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-182.customer.academica.fi] has quit ["bowliiiiiing"] 13:34 -!- Wombert_ [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 13:38 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 13:42 < marklar|omni> gaerm 13:52 * E_mE strokes the back of the memcached kitten :D 13:54 < E_mE> Wombert: you there? 13:59 < marklar|omni> kek 13:59 * marklar|omni stabs E_mE 14:00 < rick111> RAPE-A-GE 14:00 < E_mE> ay! ... thats not a knife marklar|omni... this is a knife! :: huge feck off stabbing to marklar|omni :: 14:01 < marklar|omni> BarbeQueQ: Cause a dominated player to leave the server. 14:01 < marklar|omni> hahaha 14:01 < marklar|omni> rick111: you misspelled raepg 14:03 * digitarald starts preloading 14:03 < MikeSeth> rick111: no, the correct spelling is "rapination" 14:03 < MikeSeth> to rapinate, .v 14:04 < marklar|omni> raepinate 14:05 < E_mE> yo digitarald, did you get a chance to checkout that script i did? 14:05 < digitarald> no :( 14:05 < digitarald> Can u send again :) 14:05 < digitarald> Firefox update destroyed my history 14:05 < E_mE> i can send you gzip version now ;) 14:06 < E_mE> infact i shall do little sample html with it ;) 14:07 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:07 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 14:07 < Whisller> evening 14:07 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 14:07 < digitarald> E_mE: I thought that u wanted to work from home and upload it? ;) 14:09 < E_mE> i put it into a zip file here and submitted it to the SVN 14:09 < E_mE> so my boss could install it into the framework 14:09 < E_mE> but i want to rewrite a version which is more abstract 14:10 < E_mE> and little more customisable, would be cool if it could make it as a plugin or so 14:26 -!- impl [n=impl@atheme/member/impl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:41 < Whisller> I must show you something, photo which I took today. http://www.flickr.com/photos/25824654@N07/2590333104/in/photostream/ 14:42 < Whisller> One of my better photos :) 14:42 < Whisller> ever 14:46 -!- mrx_ [n=mrx@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has quit [] 14:47 -!- mrx_ [n=mrx@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has joined #agavi 14:54 < E_mE> wow Whisller, thats pretty good 14:55 < Whisller> thanks 14:57 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 14:57 < MrJeep> Wombert: are you able to send mail using mail() on your mac ? 14:57 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [":: www.scopealley.com ::"] 14:58 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit ["I must eat something"] 15:04 < v-dogg> umm... 15:04 < v-dogg> do I have to validate routing parameters too when using strict validation mode? 15:05 < MrJeep> by routing you mean 15:05 < MrJeep> url/param1/param2/param3 ? 15:05 < v-dogg> yes 15:06 < MrJeep> yes you have t 15:06 < MrJeep> to 15:07 < v-dogg> hmm... ok... 15:08 < MrJeep> I had to ... 15:09 < E_mE> MrJeep: are you using the Mail command? 15:09 < E_mE> MrJeep: are you using the Mail function* 15:09 < MrJeep> yeah, 15:09 < E_mE> be warned! :: shakes a stick at you :: 15:09 < E_mE> one second 15:09 < MrJeep> mail still returns true, but nothing gets sent 15:10 < E_mE> MrJeep: read this: http://marcus.bointon.com/archives/53-PHPLondon.html 15:11 < E_mE> this should stop you from using Mail() 15:14 < MrJeep> yeah it seems to 15:14 < MrJeep> however my problem is not from the mail function itself 15:14 < MrJeep> the problem is sendmail does not work 15:14 < MrJeep> or whatever program used 15:18 -!- impl [n=impl@atheme/member/impl] has joined #agavi 15:19 < impl> MikeSeth: poek 15:19 < MerlinDMC> I'm using Swiftmailer ... without sendmail :P 15:20 < E_mE> impl: hay :) how is ze deutschland? 15:20 < E_mE> MrJeep: postfix? 15:21 < MrJeep> MerlinDMC: you're on osx ? 15:21 < MerlinDMC> MrJeep, yes and no ... we're working on windows an linux based servers ... but I code on OSX 15:22 < MerlinDMC> works well ... without a messy configuration :) 15:22 < Flukey> E_mE: did you speak there? 15:22 < E_mE> no, i attended though 15:23 < MrJeep> ah I thought SwiftMailer was some sort of sendmail replacment 15:23 < MerlinDMC> MrJeep, nope ... just a php library 15:24 < MerlinDMC> very scalable, many option of how to send the message (over sendmail, remote smtp, direct, ...) 15:26 < MerlinDMC> pack in time :P ... bye for today 15:26 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 15:40 -!- rick111 is now known as rick111_afk 15:47 < impl> E_mE: it's very nice :D 15:50 -!- impl [n=impl@atheme/member/impl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:13 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 16:13 < _cheerios> jee 16:19 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 16:22 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 16:28 -!- kaos|work_ is now known as kaos|work 16:33 < kaos|work> _cheerios: 16:33 < kaos|work> _cheerios: ping ping pong 16:35 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit [] 16:36 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has joined #agavi 16:57 -!- nfq [n=nfq@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has quit [] 17:07 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has left #agavi [] 17:11 -!- mrx_ [n=mrx@ip-213-189-154-197.fix.magnet.ch] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:15 -!- E_mE [n=jeramy@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 17:19 < CIA-55> david * r2520 /branches/0.11/ (CHANGELOG src/filter/AgaviExecutionFilter.class.php): Fixed #754: Caching and validation configurations cannot be per-context 17:20 < CIA-55> david * r2521 /branches/0.11/ (CHANGELOG src/config/AgaviCachingConfigHandler.class.php): Fixed #755: Caching configuration blocks might be merged incorrectly 17:22 < _cheerios> one more day of work, and my summer holiday begins. \o/ maybe get that orm finished :D 17:23 -!- icyt is now known as IcyT 17:27 -!- E_mE [n=jeramy@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has joined #agavi 17:38 -!- mrx_ [n=mrx@84-72-199-65.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 17:39 -!- Whisller [n=Whisller@chello089077183241.chello.pl] has quit ["city..."] 17:42 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has quit [] 17:44 -!- mrx_ [n=mrx@84-72-199-65.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 18:19 < Wombert> miek 18:19 * Wombert pets MikeSeth 18:37 < CIA-55> david * r2522 /branches/0.11/ (7 files in 3 dirs): 18:37 < CIA-55> Fix #751: stdout/stderror log appenders are broken. To achieve this properly, I 18:37 < CIA-55> refactored AgaviLoggerAppender to be an AgaviParameterHolder (closes #774) and 18:37 < CIA-55> introduced an intermediate AgaviStreamLoggerAppender to abstract things properly 18:37 < CIA-55> (closes #773). Just for the record, the error only appeared on Linux ;) so we 18:37 < CIA-55> now use "w" instead of "a" flags for std* fopen() calls. 18:39 * Wombert smacks MikeSeth 18:39 * Wombert tosses http://trac.agavi.org/ticket/759 at MikeSeth 18:40 < _cheerios> mm... football http://www.bild.de/BILD/unterhaltung/erotik/2008/06/16/nackt-fussball/jana-bach,geo=4858228.html 18:42 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@132.Red-83-55-79.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit ["I'll come back ... digitarald.de"] 18:52 < Wombert> nsfw :p 18:54 < v-dogg> if that's not safe for work you need to get a new job :) 18:55 -!- kaos|work [n=dominik@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit [] 18:57 < Wombert> I didn't look at it 18:57 < Wombert> just read "naked football" 18:57 < Wombert> laters 18:57 * Wombert pets v-dogg 18:57 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has quit ["bai"] 19:01 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #agavi 19:05 < _cheerios> aww my right knee. aches after bowling :| brutal sport. 19:09 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@202.Red-79-144-210.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 19:36 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@202.Red-79-144-210.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [":: www.scopealley.com ::"] 19:37 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:49 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-063-094.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 20:13 < E_mE[stilgar]> a truely classy take away from scotland http://blog.23x.net/5/what-is-a-munchy-box.html 20:44 -!- impl [n=impl@atheme/member/impl] has joined #agavi 20:48 < E_mE[stilgar]> test how long you will survive in a vacuum http://www.oneplusyou.com/q/v/space_vacuum 21:17 -!- E_mE [n=jeramy@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 21:18 < CIA-55> impl * r2523 /branches/0.11/ (CHANGELOG src/user/AgaviSecurityUser.class.php): Add convenience methods to AgaviSecurityUser, closes #772 21:28 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@ppp-82-135-90-187.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #agavi 21:35 * Wombert pets impl 21:50 -!- CIA-55 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:54 -!- CIA-6 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #agavi 22:00 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit ["sleep"] 22:33 -!- nfq [n=nfq@84-72-196-166.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [] 22:40 -!- Wombert_ [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-060-102.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 22:46 -!- IcyT is now known as icyt 22:48 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-063-094.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 23:14 -!- Wombert_ [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-060-102.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 23:16 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-060-102.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 23:19 -!- kaos|work_ [n=dominik@ppp-82-135-90-187.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has quit [] --- Day changed Thu Jun 19 2008 00:02 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-060-102.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 03:17 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit ["I Quit!"] 03:17 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #agavi 03:17 -!- MrJeep [n=MrJeep@modemcable136.46-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:04 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #agavi 05:17 < v-dogg> huomenta 05:20 < _cheerios> huomenta :) 06:03 -!- _cheerios [n=goodrobo@dsl-hkibrasgw3-fe74fb00-140.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:20 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 06:32 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-182.customer.academica.fi] has joined #agavi 06:32 < _cheerios> huomenta 06:32 -!- MerlinDMC [n=MerlinDM@p578b1081.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #agavi 06:33 < MerlinDMC> huomenta 07:16 -!- Whisller [n=Miranda@aasf163.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #agavi 07:21 -!- E_mE [n=jeramy@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has joined #agavi 07:24 -!- digitarald [n=Miranda@62.43.165.103.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #agavi 07:31 -!- MerlinDMC is now known as MerlinDMC|away 07:34 -!- MugeSo [n=Tanaka_K@220x218x27x242.ap220.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has joined #agavi 07:34 < MugeSo> huomenta! 07:36 -!- MerlinDMC|away is now known as MerlinDMC 07:36 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-060-102.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #agavi 07:42 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 07:43 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #agavi [] 07:43 -!- Rendez [n=Rendez@180.Red-80-38-116.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #agavi 07:56 < Greg_> http://code.google.com/p/pal-framework/ 07:56 < Greg_> for ideas to merge into agavi :) 07:57 < _cheerios> which ideas specifically would these be? 08:00 < _cheerios> i checked the pal-db implementation thru a few days back, but couldn't really understand what it's trying to be and compete with. doctrine and propel give a much richer syntax and toolset already. 08:11 < MikeSeth> impl: ohai 08:33 < digitarald> _cheerios: very often some simplicity is also nice 08:47 -!- E_mA [n=jeramy@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has joined #agavi 08:49 -!- Flukey [n=jhall@80.4.120.163] has joined #agavi 08:49 < Flukey> morning chaps 08:54 -!- E_mE [n=jeramy@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 09:00 < MikeSeth> hay guise 09:02 < E_mA> fucking illness!! 09:02 * E_mA shoots god in the head for this 09:05 < digitarald> When agavi would have a forge/article/knowledge thing ... what would be the subdomain? 09:09 < _cheerios> forged.agavi.org 09:09 < _cheerios> the forge daemon. hmm. maybe not the best of names in this case. 09:12 < MikeSeth> god doesn't exist kthx 09:14 < Flukey> god doesn't like me. he told me so :P 09:14 < E_mA> MikeSeth: well he doesnt anymore ;) i took care of that hoho 09:23 -!- E_mA [n=jeramy@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:23 -!- E_mA [n=jeramy@mail.spiritusgroup.com] has joined #agavi 09:25 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:44 < Flukey> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7461783.stm 09:44 < Flukey> "For Gates, all the PR positives have been counterbalanced by Microsoft's apparently endless anti-trust battles, and the leagues of Microsoft-haters among the technorati, who persist in thinking of Microsoft as the evil empire." 09:44 < Flukey> heh 09:49 -!- MugeSo [n=Tanaka_K@220x218x27x242.ap220.ftth.ucom.ne.jp] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 3.0/2008052906]"] 09:55 -!- Whisller [n=Miranda@aasf163.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit ["I quit..."] 10:18 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@dslb-088-064-060-102.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 10:32 < MerlinDMC> Flukey, so M$ isn't the evil empire anymore? ... who's it by now? :P 10:37 < _cheerios> Google 10:37 < MerlinDMC> _cheerios, hmm ... good point 10:42 -!- Rick [i=rick@unaffiliated/rick] has quit ["I… don't need to be here."] 10:49 -!- Rick [i=rick@pool-71-189-11-16.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #agavi 10:56 -!- rick111_afk is now known as rick111 11:07 < saracen> Anything I should know about file uploading with agavi? =) 11:08 < MikeSeth> other than it's awesome? ;> 11:09 < saracen> Is there any specific thing to agavi that happens? :) Do i still do move_uploaded_file etc. 11:09 < v-dogg> no 11:09 < v-dogg> $file = $rd->getFile('file_input_name'); 11:10 < saracen> ooo 11:11 < v-dogg> http://www.agavi.org/docs/HEAD/apidocs/agavi/request/AgaviUploadedFile.html 11:11 < saracen> thank you :) 11:12 < v-dogg> $indexMap tells you what getters are available (eg.$file->getName()) 11:16 -!- Wombert [n=Wombert@munich.bitxtender.net] has joined #agavi 11:16 < v-dogg> and see AgaviImageFileValidator for validation tips 11:16 < saracen> ty :) 11:39 -!- Macen [n=leopard@host86-154-107-27.range86-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #agavi 11:54 -!- sikkle [n=sikk@bas4-montreal02-1096703933.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #agavi 11:58 < rick111> done any work on agavi recently MikeSeth? 11:58 < MikeSeth> on Agavi, no, with Agavi, I'm writing code right now :> 11:59 < rick111> HEHE! 12:00 * Macen is buying a server soon 12:00 < Macen> needs cash though :/ 12:00 < Macen> DL140 methinks 12:00 < MikeSeth> i'm getting a quadcore box for my home 12:00 < MikeSeth> gonna be running virtual boxes on it for development 12:00 < MikeSeth> are winner. 12:00 < Macen> 1.6 quad this one and am getting a nice scsi hdd for quicker db access 12:00 < Macen> winwinwin 12:01 < Macen> oh, the scsi compatible one may be bigger cpu not sure 12:01 < Macen> cheapest dl140 is 1.6ghz 12:03 < Macen> oh those bastards 12:03 < _cheerios> Singleton vs Highlander vs Borg // *chuckles* at names 12:03 < Macen> they quoted me for a different brand :x 12:04 < Macen> Primergy Econel eh 12:05 < Macen> bugger 12:17 < _cheerios> been reading manuals all day *falling asleep* 12:21 < Macen> unlucky 12:21 < Macen> http://www.oft.gov.uk/advice_and_resources/resource_base/legal/distance-selling-regulations/ 12:21 < Macen> some more for you there 12:21 < Macen> uk law :x 12:24 < v-dogg> if I want to replace SVN's trunk/ with branches/foo/ what's the easiest way to go? I don't want (need) to merge anything 12:25 < E_mA> v-dogg: delete foo/ and then copy trunk 12:26 < v-dogg> other way around but thanks :) 12:26 < _cheerios> hihi, was chuckling on internet advice and blindly following it. :p 12:28 < v-dogg> "ok, now I've deleted foo/. how do I make to copy now... " :D 12:32 < E_mA> v-dogg: what client you using? 12:33 -!- liutis [n=codecop@78-61-197-230.static.zebra.lt] has joined #agavi 12:35 < v-dogg> tortoise 12:37 < E_mA> cant you do SVN copy and paste to your branches? 12:39 < v-dogg> I'm not sure what you mean by that. I opened the repo browser, deleted trunk and copied branches/foo -> trunk 12:40 < v-dogg> and switched the working copy 12:40 < E_mA> yeah that should work 12:43 < impl> yuck :> 12:45 < v-dogg> impl: woot? 12:46 -!- saracen [n=saracen@91.84.44.213] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:46 -!- saracen [n=shalco@91.84.44.213] has joined #agavi 12:47 < impl> v-dogg: svn :P 12:48 < v-dogg> bah :) 13:00 -!- _cheerios [n=jussiava@ip-87-108-51-182.customer.academica.fi] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:05 < Flukey> stupid mac firefox 13:05 < Flukey> has anyone got the annoying bug where you can tab through forms in firefox everynow and then? 13:05 < Flukey> *can't tab 13:18 -!- nfq [n=nfq@2.31.202.62.fix.bluewin.ch] has joined #agavi 13:35 -!- nfq [n=nfq@2.31.202.62.fix.bluewin.ch] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:35 -!- nfq [n=nfq@2.31.202.62.fix.bluewin.ch] has joined #agavi 13:37 < E_mA> i get annoyed with ff3 that when you select a checkbox or radiobutton that it doesn't click it properly 13:37 < MerlinDMC> Flukey, because of such prblems in the past I'm using camino for testing my work under OSX ;) 13:37 * Flukey starts off a rant session 13:38 < MerlinDMC> but havn't tested FF3 yet ... seems as if I don't need to :P 13:39 < saracen> E_mA: My checkboxes seem to work fine? ;x 13:40 < Macen> mh 13:40 < Macen> tabindex must be set for forms to "tab" properly 13:40 < Macen> that's probably why 13:40 < Macen> also they should really have a label associated 13:41 < Macen> www.bugzilla.org if you think differently 13:41 < saracen> Thats what I was wondering if E_mA was saying. If theres no